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I know it's early days for Imad but there's something different about this guy. He has the spark. His over all body language and the way he carries himself makes him stand out. He looks like an educated and intelligent person who can definitely bat and ball too.
Sacking of Azhar Ali from captaincy is inevitable in the near future so why not try imad. At least he looks and talks like a team lead.
 
He's got the swagger.

He has thrown his name in the hat for sure.

Captaincy experience counts which he has plenty of for Islamabad and Pakistan under19s.
 
It's too early. We need to give the captaincy to Sarfraz and not make the same mistake we made in the Misbah era and that was to not groom a young player into future captain. We need to groom Imad into our future captain.
 
Immad was actually setting good fields on his bowling. He is very clever I must say but problem is his bowling is not as good as we need it to be.
 
Got injured at the wrong time otherwise with 5,6 Odi fifties at number 7 he would been in the Contention as Captain along with Sarfraz.


Imad was the best Captain in last or second last Domestic T20 Tournament both on and off the field.
 
Educated,Aggressive,Disciplined, Has leadership qualities, Doesn't gets bogged down

But to become a captain either He should be batting in top 5, or he should be a Wicket taking option.
He's neither of it

Yes he can be groomed...for that
He has to Play in top 5 and make sure he makes it his spot, or else CONVINCE t board that he's a wicket taking option.His stats are good for a bowler but his bowling is not as his stats suggest..

He's a long way to go. Might be post 2018/2019 wc
 
No captain can win you games with this team.

First let him fix his spot in team, then we can talk about captaincy.
 
Hes a bits and pieces cricketer who will be worked out. You can see the English team is already playing him as a slow straight darter. No one is taking him seriously with the ball.

You can't be in the squad as a captain alone.
 
Haha. Three out of five posts in this thread talk about how he 'looks like a captain'
The state of our fans is about as bad as our odi status
 
Too early to suggest him as a captain. Rather imad babar and other promising players should be groomed into captaincy roles. They should captain psl team nd other domestic tournaments.

For now imad should move up to 6. His batting is improving. At 6 he wont have the pressure to bowl 10 overs as he'll be the 6th bowler.

Imad isnt up there with the best lower order power hitters in the world. But hes the best we have currently, lets develop his game for the last 10 overs.
 
Let him concentrate on his game and secure his place in the team first

Once he does that why not but at this stage its too early for him to be in contention
 
Saw his captaincy in one of the T20 tournaments and he was very impressive.

Also, IIRC the guy actually led Pak U19 to a series win against Aus U19.

He is 27 now, meaning it must have been around 2008 or 2007, but I would love to know who the players he played against and whether any of the current Aussie players were playing in that series.
 
I would say Imad is yet to even establish his place as a certainty in the XI.

For all you know, he may be out of form in the next series and PPers would want this darter hack out.

Long way to go really.
 
With all being said, I would want Sarfraz to become Pak captain if I were the selectors.

There is no other logical option.

Keep Azhar and Pakistan will keep sinking lower and lower.

To be fair to him, I heard his captaincy last ODI was quite good at the start. So maybe he is improving but still, he barely finds a place in the XI (if teams are selected based on modern day requirements).
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
With all being said, I would want Sarfraz to become Pak captain if I were the selectors.

There is no other logical option.

Keep Azhar and Pakistan will keep sinking lower and lower.

To be fair to him, I heard his captaincy last ODI was quite good at the start. So maybe he is improving but still, he barely finds a place in the XI (if teams are selected based on modern day requirements).
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The problem of persisting with azhar is that unlike india we don't have replacements and azhar has been the top scorer in the series dor Pakistan so far. And if he plays slow then who isn't apart from Sharjeel and Wasim. Like Misbah before him if you remove Azhar we won't be able to play 50 overs. Such is the pathetic state if our odi team.
You hear alot of names like Saud, Haris,Hamad Azam etc. The fact is that Saud failed agains the Lions on the A tour. Only scored against a weak Lanka against whom even Hasan Ali scored. Haris is unfit and Hamad Azam's record both domestic and list A is poor. So absolutely no bench strength.
Beggars are not the choosers as they say. Azhar will have to be selected
 
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SK already back up Azhar as a captain and most likely he will be captain until 2019 in the name of stability so this thread is wishful thinking unfortunately
 
Barragan said:
Saw his captaincy in one of the T20 tournaments and he was very impressive.

Also, IIRC the guy actually led Pak U19 to a series win against Aus U19.

He is 27 now, meaning it must have been around 2008 or 2007, but I would love to know who the players he played against and whether any of the current Aussie players were playing in that series.
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Ohh My School Days.


I remember Imad shined with both Bat and Bowl and Overall Batting Star for Pakistan was Umar Amin who outplayed and outnumbered all.


Aamer and Junaid Khan wwre neck too neck with Aamer slighly ahead and Shahzaib Ahmed was top wicket taker.


Amongst that Australian team Phillip Hughes (late) , Joe Burns & Nathan Coulternile played for Australia while Sam Robson later played 7 Tests for England.


For Us only Prominent player who hasn't represented Pakistan Yet is Shahzaib Ahmed Khan while Umar Amin, Imad Wasim, Ahmed Shehzad, Shan Masood, Mohammad Amir & Junaid Khan played have represented Pakistan Senior Team.



Yes Imad was best captain On and Off the field in Pak domestic T20 tournament.


Do you remember under Imad we won the 5 match Odi series in Australia with what Margin ?
 
But his captaincy in the under 19 WC was poor. The way I gauge a captain is whether he can lead from the front or not. He had an awful WC if I remember; and that SA knockout game was a shocker
 
silent ischemia said:
But his captaincy in the under 19 WC was poor. The way I gauge a captain is whether he can lead from the front or not. He had an awful WC if I remember; and that SA knockout game was a shocker
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On the Australia Tour as U-19 Captain He scored only 10-20 runs less than Our Top scorer that series which was Umar Amin. Also He was amongst wickets and was Man of the Series if i am not wrong and We won that 5 match series.


Any Player can lose form at any given time especially Batsman.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
On the Australia Tour as U-19 Captain He scored only 10-20 runs less than Our Top scorer that series which was Umar Amin. Also He was amongst wickets and was Man of the Series if i am not wrong and We won that 5 match series.


Any Player can lose form at any given time especially Batsman.
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Nobody is denying that. But WC was the wrong time for him to lose form. Even Sami Aslam's under 19 team beat Aus 19 pretty handsomely before the nz under 19 wc
 
silent ischemia said:
Hahaha and that's the most important trait required.
Do you know Mike Brearley's individual stats?
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Do you want Brearley as Pak Odi Captain ?

Already we are playing with 5 players team and with Brearly it would be 4 players against 11 opposition players :-) :-)
 
silent ischemia said:
Nobody is denying that. But WC was the wrong time for him to lose form. Even Sami Aslam's under 19 team beat Aus 19 pretty handsomely before the nz under 19 wc
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Don't remember the thread but WC Passion Barragan 1 other fellow and I discussed Imad's demeanour, Field placings, bowling Changes and instructions to Bowlers.


Imad got injured at wrong time few months ago so Sarfraz is in lead now. Just hope and pray that Captaincy does not affect Sarfraz's keeping when thinking hat is On.
 
He needs to cement himself in the team 1st. Doing a good job so far but needs to keep up his batting and improve his bowling slightly. Only space for one imad or nawaz
 
One of the better ideas we've had on pakpassion for a while. Pick ur leaders young and there is a chance he will turn into the next Graeme Smith.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
I would say Imad is yet to even establish his place as a certainty in the XI.

For all you know, he may be out of form in the next series and PPers would want this darter hack out.

Long way to go really.
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As an outsider, you must really enjoy this trait of PAk fans/ppers.

The guy isn't even a sure starter in LOIs, is a bits and pieces cricketer who isn't a good enough bowler and hit-n-miss type late order bat.

Actually, what you're saying has already happened. When he initially came on to the scene, had 1-2 good matches and we had threads on PP asking him to become the cap'.

But then, he produced a string of poor results, and there came a wave of attacks on Imad, how he is a "darter" and all that.

1-2 good matches, there are calls for his captaincy again. :))
 
Just because he was born in Wales, speaks very good English and scored a few runs vs England make him captaincy material.
I've been on Pakpassion long enough since the days Sohaib Maqsood and Ahmed Shehzad were considered captaincy material and everyone posted against Misbah ul Haq making batsmen bat slowly, to an era now when Misbah and Afridi both have retired from ODIs but these posts after 1-2 performances for change in captaincy haven't changed.
 
I honestly don't like Imad Wasim, he was shambles in the PSL, found ridiculous ways to get out. His bowling has no variety, he was exposed at the t20 world, didn't spin the ball. Considers himself a spin bowling version of Wasim akram where he darts it in to the right hander to get an lbw.
Once people read his variations he is exposed because his ball doesn't turn at all
 
Those wanting Imad Wasim to be captain need to watch this :)))

 
Needs to perform like this for a year at least.

Should be next in line after Sarfraz, along with Babar.
 
Barragan said:
Saw his captaincy in one of the T20 tournaments and he was very impressive.

Also, IIRC the guy actually led Pak U19 to a series win against Aus U19.

He is 27 now, meaning it must have been around 2008 or 2007, but I would love to know who the players he played against and whether any of the current Aussie players were playing in that series.
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If I'm not wrong the only series we played against Australia which Imad was apart of was in 2007 which we lost 2-3. Imad wasn't even Captain Shehzad was! We had a lot of players from that squad go onto represent Pakistan!

Here is the series
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/series/288198.html

And Here are all of Aus U-19 series results that's the only series
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/team/series_results.html?class=21;id=284;type=team
 
silent ischemia said:
The problem of persisting with azhar is that unlike india we don't have replacements and azhar has been the top scorer in the series dor Pakistan so far. And if he plays slow then who isn't apart from Sharjeel and Wasim. Like Misbah before him if you remove Azhar we won't be able to play 50 overs. Such is the pathetic state if our odi team.
You hear alot of names like Saud, Haris,Hamad Azam etc. The fact is that Saud failed agains the Lions on the A tour. Only scored against a weak Lanka against whom even Hasan Ali scored. Haris is unfit and Hamad Azam's record both domestic and list A is poor. So absolutely no bench strength.
Beggars are not the choosers as they say. Azhar will have to be selected
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Persist with Azhar but don't make him captain.

That way you have more leeway to drop him if he doesn't perform.
 
Pakprideuk said:
Hes a bits and pieces cricketer who will be worked out. You can see the English team is already playing him as a slow straight darter. No one is taking him seriously with the ball.

You can't be in the squad as a captain alone.
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Well when Azhar was picked in ODI team we was picked as Captain Alone. Was no where close to be in ODIS and boom captain so in Pak cricket yoou can be in as a specialist captain lol
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Do you want Brearley as Pak Odi Captain ?

Already we are playing with 5 players team and with Brearly it would be 4 players against 11 opposition players :-) :-)
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I am not saying make Mike/Zohaib the captain but was just referring to the fact that man management is the most important thing for a captain which apparently azhar lacks
 
I think he has extensive captaincy experience at u 19 level. Moreover he seems to have an aggressive instinct so its something to work upon. However for the time being I will be more interested to see how sarfraz leads in t20 as it might pave the way for future.
 
No. He is yet to establish himself. Too inexperienced to captain the side.
 
Sarfraz is the best choice for captaincy based on the fact that he won an under 19 WC in 2006. Imad will get worked out soon and he is not a consistent hitter, just a pure accumulator who wastes a spot down the order. Shouldn't make someone captain because he speaks good English.
 
I was in favour of Sarfraz being captain but I am starting to feel Imad Wasim might be a better option. He sets fields well, seems to relish the responsibility and Mickey rates him highly. I would take Mickeys suggestions far more seriously than Waqars.
 
Some boundaries clattered and all of a sudden:

"Imad Wasim - Pakistan's Yuvraj Singh?"

"Imad Wasim as Pakistan's next skipper?"
 
Sarfraz is performing with the bat. Don't burden him with the politics.
Amaad Wasim is smart, educated, confident, he has swagger and self-confidence to keep his head up.
He needs more performance(runs+wickets) under his belt.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Ohh My School Days.


I remember Imad shined with both Bat and Bowl and Overall Batting Star for Pakistan was Umar Amin who outplayed and outnumbered all.


Aamer and Junaid Khan wwre neck too neck with Aamer slighly ahead and Shahzaib Ahmed was top wicket taker.


Amongst that Australian team Phillip Hughes (late) , Joe Burns & Nathan Coulternile played for Australia while Sam Robson later played 7 Tests for England.


For Us only Prominent player who hasn't represented Pakistan Yet is Shahzaib Ahmed Khan while Umar Amin, Imad Wasim, Ahmed Shehzad, Shan Masood, Mohammad Amir & Junaid Khan played have represented Pakistan Senior Team.



Yes Imad was best captain On and Off the field in Pak domestic T20 tournament.


Do you remember under Imad we won the 5 match Odi series in Australia with what Margin ?
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No, I don't remember the result, but thanks to Qalandarfan - I've digged it up and saw that Pak won 5-0.

Also, huge names like Starc, Faulkner, Hazlewood and Kane Richardson (not as prominent like the other 3) were part of the Aussie side.

QalandarFan said:
If I'm not wrong the only series we played against Australia which Imad was apart of was in 2007 which we lost 2-3. Imad wasn't even Captain Shehzad was! We had a lot of players from that squad go onto represent Pakistan!

Here is the series
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/series/288198.html

And Here are all of Aus U-19 series results that's the only series
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/team/series_results.html?class=21;id=284;type=team
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No, I was referring to this series:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/series/312705.html

Pak won 5-0 and Imad was the captain.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Persist with Azhar but don't make him captain.

That way you have more leeway to drop him if he doesn't perform.
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The captain is as good as the team. Do you think Pakistan will start winning if we made Sarfraz/Imad the captain with a similar bunch of players like Hafeez, Malik and Riaz etc. No is the answer
I agree Azhar has not been a good captain but if you want to make Sarfraz the captain then yes but give him some young promising players and time as well. Azhar at the moment is in form and obviously better than Malik, Hafeez and Aslam so persist with him.
It will take time but we don't have time on our side. We will be playing the WC qualifiers I am afraid unless we beat Aus in Aus which is impossible
 
silent ischemia said:
The captain is as good as the team. Do you think Pakistan will start winning if we made Sarfraz/Imad the captain with a similar bunch of players like Hafeez, Malik and Riaz etc. No is the answer
I agree Azhar has not been a good captain but if you want to make Sarfraz the captain then yes but give him some young promising players and time as well. Azhar at the moment is in form and obviously better than Malik, Hafeez and Aslam so persist with him.
It will take time but we don't have time on our side. We will be playing the WC qualifiers I am afraid unless we beat Aus in Aus which is impossible
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Yes captain is as good as the team.

But that doesn't mean captain has no role. A better captain would have tried to squeeze England more in the first few ODIs.

Azhar looks just lost.
 
I open PP after two days and all of a sudden there are a 100 Imad threads. He just scored fifty give it a rest chaps. Let him perform first..
 
Syed1 said:
I open PP after two days and all of a sudden there are a 100 Imad threads. He just scored fifty give it a rest chaps. Let him perform first..
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Yes tomorrow Nawaz will score a hundred and nawaz - Pakitan Raina thread and Nawaz for captain...
 
Syed1 said:
I open PP after two days and all of a sudden there are a 100 Imad threads. He just scored fifty give it a rest chaps. Let him perform first..
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Lol, sad times, eh?

Imad Wasim needs to nail down that #7 spot first and foremost. Captaincy should not be a concernfor him at the moment.
 
Imad has a lot of captaincy experience I know. He was the captain of Amir, Junaid, Shehzad, Umar, U. Amin etc. Then also captained the Islamabad side in many trophies.

But

What is his position in the team? He is still a bits and pieces cricketer. He needs to stamp his authority first at the least as a bat or a bowler and then be considered for captaincy. We Pakistanis are very easy in this regard and thats why made people like Malik, Afridi captain in the past.
 
For those who say Imad first has to cement is own place in the eleven, can they name a single player who has been a consistent performer in ODI, and has cemented his palace. Imad's place is secured than most of them.
 
moghul said:
For those who say Imad first has to cement is own place in the eleven, can they name a single player who has been a consistent performer in ODI, and has cemented his palace. Imad's place is secured than most of them.
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Sarfaraz's place is pretty much secured and he's also Imad's senior. He should be the next captain.
 
First he better cement his place...bits and pieces player like him need to perform in evry game. Otherwise he will be shown the door soon. He has to atleast bowl equally good as ravindra jadej if not better. He looks quite confident in everything he does but unfortunately thats just 1 part of the game. I think he should bat one down
 
4th time that Imad made bowling change and his team got a wicket.

Best Captain in PC.


Fortunately we finally have got a Captain of substance in domestic Cricket.

Cool, calm, tactically smart, shrude.


Well Done.
 
Terrible umpiring.

Plumb Lbw not given.


It would have been 5th time that a bowling change by Imad would have given federal a wicket.

Sohail Khan very unlucky.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
4th time that Imad made bowling change and his team got a wicket.

Best Captain in PC.


Fortunately we finally have got a Captain of substance in domestic Cricket.

Cool, calm, tactically smart, shrude.


Well Done.
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100% agreed, I think Imad should've been made captain Instead of Sarfraz.

Sarfraz is fine but Imad is fitter, energetic yet composed.
 
Imad should've appointed as a captain in place of azhar. PCB have wasted two years on azhar and now couple of years on sarfraz. Sarfraz is hyper active and lost his cool too quickly.
 
Hamza_ said:
100% agreed, I think Imad should've been made captain Instead of Sarfraz.

Sarfraz is fine but Imad is fitter, energetic yet composed.
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I think Sarfraz deserved it more.

Saifi just needs to be cool & calm and treat youngsta's with more love on the field.


I have rated Imad as a Captain since last two years but he got unfit at a very wrong time hence permanent n senior Sarfraz was a better option especially after PSL stincts as Captain.

Imad needs to get rid of his belly. When he made debut for Pak he was super fit.


Hope he has a good CT in all 3 departments and than he is made Vice Captain of Odi & T20 team immediately.
 
So now the same Imad who was getting calls to be dropped from the team is a better choice than Sarfraz as the Captain and that on basis of one-two recent successes, Sarfraz is a proven leader and the best captain in Pakistan.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
4th time that Imad made bowling change and his team got a wicket.

Best Captain in PC.


Fortunately we finally have got a Captain of substance in domestic Cricket.

Cool, calm, tactically smart, shrude.


Well Done.
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Imad is a good captain for us over the years but he is not cool and calm.
Have seen him captaining many times for Isloo.
He is in the same mold as Sarfraz.
 
Arsalan Pro said:
So now the same Imad who was getting calls to be dropped from the team is a better choice than Sarfraz as the Captain and that on basis of one-two recent successes, Sarfraz is a proven leader and the best captain in Pakistan.
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Just Pakistani things ;)
One Tournament some palyers perform and all should be in team. One captain does well and he should be captain.
Next tournament another set of players perform and they should be in team. Another captain does well and he should be captain.

International cricket doesn't work like this. Its a process and development of years not flashes.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Just Pakistani things ;)
One Tournament some palyers perform and all should be in team. One captain does well and he should be captain.
Next tournament another set of players perform and they should be in team. Another captain does well and he should be captain.

International cricket doesn't work like this. Its a process and development of years not flashes.
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Yup, Pakistani's just can't be happy with what they have.
 
Hamza_ said:
100% agreed, I think Imad should've been made captain Instead of Sarfraz.

Sarfraz is fine but Imad is fitter, energetic yet composed.
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not fitter, has put on weight and little pot belly once become regular in the side... Completed fitness tests after few attempts prior to the WI series, were:uak was dropped on fitness..
 
Superb Captaincy by Swansea born Imad Wasim.

Swagger [MENTION=139634]Finisher[/MENTION]:imad


Nasir Hussain will be glad today
 
What was Imad's performances as an individual in the Tournament for him to be considered a future captain?

His innings in the final reminded me that he is nothing more than a glorified slogger
 
I will disagree with others here.

Imad was very good too but for me Fakhar was the best captain of Pak cup. Imad had a very strong team and anything less than a win would be disappointing.
Even on the last bowl Fakhar asked Zia to bowl a slower bowl and push the mid on a bit back but Zia said he will bowl a yorker which wasnt executed properly.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
I will disagree with others here.

Imad was very good too but for me Fakhar was the best captain of Pak cup. Imad had a very strong team and anything less than a win would be disappointing.
Even on the last bowl Fakhar asked Zia to bowl a slower bowl and push the mid on a bit back but Zia said he will bowl a yorker which wasnt executed properly.
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Imad made 5 bowling changes and immediately 5 dismissal oppurtunities created. 4 times federal got wicket immediately 5th time when Sohail came on a catch was dropped.


His bowling changes and field positions were great. Fakhar was good but for me Imad was the better Captain.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Imad made 5 bowling changes and immediately 5 dismissal oppurtunities created. 4 times federal got wicket immediately 5th time when Sohail came on a catch was dropped.


His bowling changes and field positions were great. Fakhar was good but for me Imad was the better Captain.
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Yes in this match Imad was better (really good with the field and bowling changes as you said) but overall in the tournament Fakhar for me.
 
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