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Heated telephone conversation recently between the 2 of them after Imad was left out of the squads for South Africa and Zimbabwe.

Mohammad Wasim wanted to try to explain to Imad Wasim why he had been left out, but Imad was unimpressed with the reasons given by the Chief Selector. Imad felt that the reasons/excuses given by the Chief Selector didn't justify his exclusion.

The all-rounder is unhappy with what the Chief Selector is suggesting regarding his omission, but the Chief Selector is stating that Imad has issues bowling to left-handers and bowling in the middle overs.

The Chief Selector also feels that Shadab Khan is an automatic pick and Mohammad Nawaz has been in better form than Imad of late.
 
The attitude era is back [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION]


Imad Wasim and Mohammad Amir are two very good friends. Homies since day one. Clear factions have been formed in Pakistan cricket. Well Done Misbah and Waqar!
 
Heated telephone conversation recently between the 2 of them after Imad was left out of the squads for South Africa and Zimbabwe.

Mohammad Wasim wanted to try to explain to Imad Wasim why he had been left out, but Imad was unimpressed with the reasons given by the Chief Selector. Imad felt that the reasons/excuses given by the Chief Selector didn't justify his exclusion.

The all-rounder is unhappy with what the Chief Selector is suggesting regarding his omission, but the Chief Selector is stating that Imad has issues bowling to left-handers and bowling in the middle overs.

The Chief Selector also feels that Shadab Khan is an automatic pick and Mohammad Nawaz has been in better form than Imad of late.

Sadly Mohammad Wasim is right this time. Imad Wasim was looking afraid to Bowl in Psl.
 
Imad and Nawaz are at a similar level in terms or bowling.
Imad is miles ahead of Nawaz as a batter though.
 
Imad only has himself to blame. He was hiding and afraid to bowl in the PSL. If he is not good enough to bowl in the PSL, then he is not good enough for intl cricket
 
As long as the anger from Imad is used in a positive way then its a win win for PK. I want Imad to stop being an in dip bowler and spin the ball away from right handers and into the left. It would make him indispensable.
 
More than Md Wasim.. looks like a decision comes from Misbah/Waqar combo

They never liked
Amir, Imad, Sarfaraz, Hassan Ali (until he was needed badly), Fakhar

And guess what , these were the young core players (except Babar liked bu Misbah) in recent years
 
More than Md Wasim.. looks like a decision comes from Misbah/Waqar combo

They never liked
Amir, Imad, Sarfaraz, Hassan Ali (until he was needed badly), Fakhar

And guess what , these were the young core players (except Babar liked bu Misbah) in recent years

This.

Add Sharjeel to that list. They have golden boys like Rizwan who they want to make the face of Pakistan cricket!
 
He will be back soon along with Amir; once we exit the World T20 World Cup with disgrace

If it will take one World Cup to loose Misbah/Waqar then Im all for it

Fluke South Africa series win can not hide what a big failure these 2 are when it comes to coaching and mgmt.
 
This.

Add Sharjeel to that list. They have golden boys like Rizwan who they want to make the face of Pakistan cricket!

Misbahs seniors XI, he thinks who ever is younger than him (be it 45 yo) is eligible for national selection
Abid Ali, Iftikhar Uncle, Imran Khan Jr. , Nauman Ali, Rizwan, Fawad Alam (at 36+)

You know what they will take Nauman Ali to WT20 this year to be eaten alive by Indian team
 
Competition for places is good if players are mentally prepared for it. Some Pak players take every exclusion too much to the heart. Debate about whether he was rightfully or wrongly dropped aside, Pakistani players as a whole need to take exclusion in a much more sportive manner and work on their weak aspects with motivation to get back in the team.

Its a good thing though that Imad havent spoken much about it publicly and also havent taken “retirement” as you never know when someone can get hurt.
 
Misbahs seniors XI, he thinks who ever is younger than him (be it 45 yo) is eligible for national selection
Abid Ali, Iftikhar Uncle, Imran Khan Jr. , Nauman Ali, Rizwan, Fawad Alam (at 36+)

Rizwan is 28 while Imad is 32 so not sure how does this argument apply here on this thread when you are putting Rizwan in older category of players.
 
Worrying that Shadab is seen as a guaranteed starter by Wasim. Also I worry for Imads international career. Mohammed Wasim seems like someone who won't forget something like this.
 
Heated telephone conversation recently between the 2 of them after Imad was left out of the squads for South Africa and Zimbabwe.

Mohammad Wasim wanted to try to explain to Imad Wasim why he had been left out, but Imad was unimpressed with the reasons given by the Chief Selector. Imad felt that the reasons/excuses given by the Chief Selector didn't justify his exclusion.

The all-rounder is unhappy with what the Chief Selector is suggesting regarding his omission, but the Chief Selector is stating that Imad has issues bowling to left-handers and bowling in the middle overs.

The Chief Selector also feels that Shadab Khan is an automatic pick and Mohammad Nawaz has been in better form than Imad of late.

"Imad felt that the reasons/excuses given by the Chief Selector didn't justify his exclusion."

-True, Imad is a great all-rounder in ODIs.

"Selector is stating that Imad has issues bowling to left-handers and bowling in the middle overs."

-Bowling to left-handers, yes he does have issues. Bowling in the middle overs, he is actually very good at it.

"The Chief Selector also feels that Shadab Khan is an automatic pick"

-The Chief Selector does not want the best for Pakistan cricket. No way Shadab Khan is an automatic pick. Excellent fielder, average batsman, average bowler. Decent squad player, but based on batting ability and leg-spin skill, there are better options than Shadab.

Mohammad Wasim and others in the PCB seem threatened by alpha males like Imad Wasim.

May Allah allow the traitors and those who select the team based on personal whims to be humiliated in the future.
 
I don't see Wasim's CS tenure ending well. He seems to be playing favourites and player/s will eventually blow when nonsense decisions like picking Muhammad Wasim, preferring Nawaz over Imad, announcing Shadab as an automatic pick and ignoring Kamran Ghulam continue.
 
Shadab hasn't won us a single game while as Imad has won us in numerous situations in testing circumstances. I like M.Wasim but feel this so unfair for Ronaldo Imad. Shadab should be on bench for him
 
Highly doubt Imad has been dropped on cricketing grounds. He is better than both Shadab and Nawaz, and anything the CS would say would sound like excuses for Imad.

Something is not quite right.
 
Nawaz has been dropped many times after showing potential. I had noticed that he went back and played hard in domestic and psl etc and deserves a chance. Rotation is good. Rewarding players vying for spot and working hard is also good. How is Imad some un-droppable player? (7-8th in the bating line up)
Although I like him but I do not feel he cannot he rested and told to improve.
New selector just started. People need to lay off a little bit. Nawaz is a good athlete. Can bowl and field and seems like a proper bat. Deserves a chance. Someone with similar role (Imad) will have to sacrifice.
 
Stuff like this really makes you respect guys like Fawad Alam. He kept getting ignored despite dominating pretty much every FC season but he still kept his head.

Imad gets dropped for the first time and apparently ends up snapping at the selectors. I wonder if he is planing on going the Amir route. TBH I think he should, I rather have guys like Nawaz then supposed “superstars” like Imad Wasim in the team.
 
For a Chief Selector to already be rubbing up the wrong way quite a few players after a short tenure isn't a good sign.

But who knows, maybe this shake-up was needed and some players needed dropping/a wake-up call. Although some definitely feel they have been badly treated.
 
This.

Add Sharjeel to that list. They have golden boys like Rizwan who they want to make the face of Pakistan cricket!

Well I will take the golden boy over certified cheats.

And where did Rizwan come into this discussion???
 
This.

Add Sharjeel to that list. They have golden boys like Rizwan who they want to make the face of Pakistan cricket!

Yes, they should try to make Sharjeel Khan the face of Pakistan cricket.
 
These players are acting as if they're been part of 2000s Australia that they don't deserve to be dropped.

Since Jan 2019, Imad averages 50/63 and 14/31 in ODIs and T20s with bat and ball. So he needs to improve his ODI bowling and T20 batting.

However Shadab and Nawaz are even worse all-rounders, Shadab an automatic pick is laughable (his numbers are 19/41 and 13/43 in same timeframe if you're curious). Our best AR now is Faheem so play him with specialists instead.
 
For a Chief Selector to already be rubbing up the wrong way quite a few players after a short tenure isn't a good sign.

But who knows, maybe this shake-up was needed and some players needed dropping/a wake-up call. Although some definitely feel they have been badly treated.

I think rubbing people the wrong way is a good sign. People get complacent and hard calls need to be made. Dropping Imad is a hard call because statistically he seems to be doing okay. But I do agree with what is being said about his balling. However, I think Imad is a pretty good batsman and someone who can play in the top 5. Maybe this will shake him up.

The same thing with Yasir Shah. For too long he has been relying on past performances and coasting in the team as an automatic choice. Giving him a break and playing a more motivated guy is what is needed.

The only thing I can not get my head around is Haris Rauf the test bowler
 
The attitude era is back [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION]


Imad Wasim and Mohammad Amir are two very good friends. Homies since day one. Clear factions have been formed in Pakistan cricket. Well Done Misbah and Waqar!

Misbah ul Bischoff and Waqar Hogan :))

Not good for Pak cricket at all, why does everyone need to be buddy buddy; you want guys to win you games
 
These players are acting as if they're been part of 2000s Australia that they don't deserve to be dropped.

Since Jan 2019, Imad averages 50/63 and 14/31 in ODIs and T20s with bat and ball. So he needs to improve his ODI bowling and T20 batting.

However Shadab and Nawaz are even worse all-rounders, Shadab an automatic pick is laughable (his numbers are 19/41 and 13/43 in same timeframe if you're curious). Our best AR now is Faheem so play him with specialists instead.



There is no issue in dropping Imad for ODIs. I doubt his body will last till 2023 to play a 50 over tournament. But it is ridiculous to drop him from T20s in favour of Shadab and Nawaz. Imad bowling in the PP overs is vital for us. Imad is a good T20 player.
 
Shadab is an automatic pick lol. So basically he is saying Shadab can be in the most wretched form but he will still be picked no questions asked.

The least this guy can do is stop hiding behind stupid excuses and just admit he is picking the players that he likes and not picking the players he dislikes.
 
I hope MW was trying to build up the confidence of Shadab and isn't serious about him being an automatic pick. If he was serious then I am seriously worried.
 
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Shadab is an automatic pick lol. So basically he is saying Shadab can be in the most wretched form but he will still be picked no questions asked.

I hope MW was trying to build up the confidence of Shadab and isn't serious about him being an automatic pick. If he was serious then I am seriously worried.

Could be using the word “automatic pick” because he is the VC of the ODI and T20 team.
 
Heated telephone conversation recently between the 2 of them after Imad was left out of the squads for South Africa and Zimbabwe.

Mohammad Wasim wanted to try to explain to Imad Wasim why he had been left out, but Imad was unimpressed with the reasons given by the Chief Selector. Imad felt that the reasons/excuses given by the Chief Selector didn't justify his exclusion.

The all-rounder is unhappy with what the Chief Selector is suggesting regarding his omission, but the Chief Selector is stating that Imad has issues bowling to left-handers and bowling in the middle overs.

The Chief Selector also feels that Shadab Khan is an automatic pick and Mohammad Nawaz has been in better form than Imad of late.

Could be using the word “automatic pick” because he is the VC of the ODI and T20 team.

Wasim is wrong on this

Shadab shouldnt be the vice captain Hes clesrly not a automatic pick or better than imad

Imad avges 42 in odis with the bat and is the best finisher pakistan has at the moment
 
This.

Add Sharjeel to that list. They have golden boys like Rizwan who they want to make the face of Pakistan cricket!

Excuse me? Rizwan is the second best batter in the team. Its no joke. Hes a golden boy.

However, for the record, i have previously criticised Wasim for Nawaz’s selection over Imad and would do the same again. Its not justifiable.
 
Excuse me? Rizwan is the second best batter in the team. Its no joke. Hes a golden boy.

However, for the record, i have previously criticised Wasim for Nawaz’s selection over Imad and would do the same again. Its not justifiable.

Until now.. We will see in South Africa
 
As much as i say nawaz deserves his chance.credit to imad wasim for not calling his retirement or going to the media
 
Wasim is wrong on this

Shadab shouldnt be the vice captain Hes clesrly not a automatic pick or better than imad

Imad avges 42 in odis with the bat and is the best finisher pakistan has at the moment

Shadab was appointed vice captain before Wasim became CS.
 
Since Jan 2019, Imad averages 50/63 and 14/31 in ODIs and T20s with bat and ball. So he needs to improve his ODI bowling and T20 batting.

Can you restate these averages after filtering out the likes of Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, etc.?

Because those numbers make him to be a competent player but we all know he's a bits-and-pieces Yousuf Pathan type at best.
 
Can you restate these averages after filtering out the likes of Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, etc.?

Because those numbers make him to be a competent player but we all know he's a bits-and-pieces Yousuf Pathan type at best.

Imad is way better than the likes of Yusuf Pathan and is a very solid player.
 
Can you restate these averages after filtering out the likes of Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, etc.?

Because those numbers make him to be a competent player but we all know he's a bits-and-pieces Yousuf Pathan type at best.

Minus BD and ZIM, his bat/ball averages since start of 2019 are 42/71 and 15/32 in ODIs and T20s.
 
I dont understand what does Imad Waseem think of himself? Guy has a boosted avg and does bits and pieces. He throws darts.

Now, Shadab is automatic, but Shadab is only for an year or two. If Shadab doesnt start spinning the ball or starts batting, i dont see him in the team anymore.

Shadab gets away with the injury everytime.

Mohammad Nawaz gets away with a beutiful action. But to be very honest, he also doesnt spin that much.

If we had to pick 1 from the 3 bowlers who cant spin, than i would take shadab only because of his batting.

The option in the team should be a proper spinner who could spin it. Like Zahid Mehmood for now.
 
Imad to go the same way as Mohammad Amir?

HIs central contract expires in June.
 
For a Chief Selector to already be rubbing up the wrong way quite a few players after a short tenure isn't a good sign.

But who knows, maybe this shake-up was needed and some players needed dropping/a wake-up call. Although some definitely feel they have been badly treated.

A lot of Pakistani players needed some tough love. For far too long our players have been coasting on past laurels and have regressed. This is where Indian Cricket excels, a player like Shikhar Dhawan gets out of form, they don't care about his past performances or services, he gets shown the door instantly to make way for a replacement who is hungry for the opportunity
 
Mohammad Wasim clears the air on Imad Wasim's non selection:

PakPassion.net: You have recently stated that Imad Wasim has limitations, can you elaborate on what you meant by this statement?

Mohammad Wasim: I had a chat with Imad and we discussed a few things about my future plans. But let me clarify my comments on limitations regarding Imad. Firstly, I could only send a certain number of white-ball players to South Africa and Zimbabwe, so I couldn’t send everyone there. I had that luxury for the home series where I could pick players for different formats but as this is a combined squad, I couldn’t send everyone, including the back-up players.

With Shadab coming back into the team as the main spin-bowling all-rounder there was only one slot available and then Imad was competing with Mohammad Nawaz for the second spot. Nawaz has been brilliant whenever he has played, in domestic and also for the national team. At the moment it is a comparison between Imad and Nawaz and if I look at current form then Nawaz has the edge. Nawaz also gives the captain the option that he can bowl in any situation, in any conditions and against any type of batsman and that’s where Imad has his limitations.

We have seen Imad being more effective with the new ball and if he doesn’t bowl with the new ball then his middle overs bowling is an area he needs to work on. If he’s not needed with the new ball and if the captain prefers another fast bowler to get him some early breakthroughs as he wants wicket-taking options from both ends, then Imad needs to improve his bowling in the middle overs against all types of batsmen including left-handers.

As a Twenty20 cricketer you need to be able to bat anywhere and bowl anytime in any conditions. At the moment I feel that Imad cannot do this and therefore he has his limitations. There are situations where he is useful, but he needs to improve on the areas which I have mentioned.

Imad will go to the NHPC and work with Saqlain Mushtaq and he will improve. I am not ruling out anyone for a recall and I am not saying that Imad is not in our future plans but the level of competition is high. I have tried to create a challenging environment where we have competition for places and there is pressure on all players to keep their place. This is good for Pakistan cricket and is how it should be, that the players in the Shaheens team or back-up players should be ready to take over when the opportunity arises.

We saw at the PSL that some of the boys were coming out of their comfort zone and bowling with the new ball, trying different things and this is exactly what we wanted to see. We want Imad to come out of his comfort zone and we want to have a backup for every player to step in when they are required.
 
Misbah speaking to press on Imad Wasim


"The answer on Imad's exclusion has been provided by Mohammad Waseem in detail; I have always said that this is Pakistan's team and not our team; Conditions in SA are known to all and its quite possible that only one spinner will play, and a fast bowling all-rounder will be playing too; We need a spinner in middle overs and Imad's effectiveness and his role is with the new ball; Also his form has been taken into consideration - recently Nawaz has performed well and we are trying to give him some continuity with chances before the World Cup where we will be playing 2-3 series"

"Imad is always there for us - we havent written him off, so lets see how we go in the future"
 
Its among the few mistakes that M Waseem has made.

Imad is a decent T20 player, considerably better than Shadab and Nawaz.
 
The reasoning doesn't seem that bad to me. A spin-bowling all rounder who only bowls with the new ball is not going to be very useful in South Africa. They seem to be encouraging him to focus on expanding his bowling skillset to bowl in more scenarios, which I'm okay with.

We saw how reluctant he is to bowl outside of the powerplay in the PSL, when he himself was in charge of the bowling changes.
 
I am not sure which matches Waseem has been watching. Leaving out Imad is criminal; he is the only confident, competent and level-header player. This is simply pathetic!
 
Any other country the player n question would take the advice on board even if they don't agree and go and work on improving as a player and proving the selectors wrong.

Our payers take it personally get all emotional and let everything apart from their cricket do the talking.
 
Any other country the player n question would take the advice on board even if they don't agree and go and work on improving as a player and proving the selectors wrong.

Our payers take it personally get all emotional and let everything apart from their cricket do the talking.

To be honest i havent seen imad go to the media unlike our other cricketers.i hope he is improving his skills and working on bowling in different stages of the match
 
The reasoning wasim gave is reasonable and justified.I hope he works on his case and he can stil make a come back into the team
 
Unbelievable comments I'm reading.

The selector has given his reasons and has been successful so far. I would have liked Imad Wasim, but anyone would think he dropped Babar Azam after reading some of these comments.

It's as if you've never seen a squad selected in sports. There's always going to be different opinions
 
Could Imad Wasim have done better than Shadab Khan in ODIs?
 
What a joke. Imad is dropped to accommodate Shadab.

Imad is clearly better then him and Nawaz as an all rounder. Its seems like Pindi/United Mafia desperately wants to protect Shadab.
 
I will stil take shadab why would you want Nawaz and imad in the same squad !
 
I like the guts of Muhammad Wasim , and being honest with the reasons.

Imad Wasim instead of crying should have shown his abilities on field with bat and bowl..

Hiding behind being a captain is something really seriously bad.. Sarfraz did the same, he did hid behind players and sent others to bat when he was captain. he even once bat at 8... Instead has he continuously batted at 5 would have still be the captian....Totally unprofessional stuff.

Imad Wasim had enormous opportunity to showcase his talent with the bat, he is a better batsman than a bowler but he hasn't done that yet, instead befriend with coach and the best players in the team, thinks that is enough to keep him in the team.

Good reality check this from the Chief selector.. His weakness and limitations are well explained and I 100% agree with that , he needs to work on his bowling to be effective or score runs with the bat and plays as batting allrounder.

Also Imads fitness has always been a question, I remember under MA he continuously fails fitness test at the first round and then re-take tests to pass the test..

Even Sarfraz was dropped from all formats and removed from captaincy, did he cry like Imad and Amir, instead he worked on his fitness and made his way back into the team.. Waiting for his opportunity now to grab it..
 
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So Mohammad Wasim had to change his mind about Imad?
 
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