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ISLAMABAD: The Muslim 500, a Jordan based publication, has declared Prime Minister Imran Khan ‘Man of the Year’, while US Congresswoman Rashida Talib has been declared ‘Woman of the Year’.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/704715-imran-khan-declared-man-of-the-year-by-the-muslim-500
 
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It should've been Erdogan but I would take Imran Khan.

I am glad it is not MBS.
 
Should have been Erdogan but good on Imran. He's doing a lot of work in Pakistan apparently.
 
Think Imran Khan gets more attention from Western press primarily because he can speak in English, but I agree Erdogan is the bigger Muslim leader for now. If in 10 years our economy is standing on her feet and IK is still around then he can lead the Muslim world. Might be too old by then though.
 
It should've been Erdogan but I would take Imran Khan.

I am glad it is not MBS.


I don't see what Erdogan has done to deserve this award, any award for that matter.

I think the most suitable candidate is Sheik Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani, the Emir of Qatar. He has ensured that Qatar has not just survived, but thrived inspite of being blockaded by all its neighbours. He has pretty much showed the Saudis and everyone else the middle finger and ensured his country's prosperity.

He is also the youngest and most educated ruler in the Middle East.
 
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Erdogan has done some good things but some very foolish policies, invading Syria, turning a holy church into a mosque etc.

Arab rulers are puppets, dictators but yes the Qatari Emir is the best of a bad bunch.

Imran is head and shoulers above everyone else :afridi

Imran’s policies are based on justice, diplomacy and helping the needy, a truly great man and although he may have made some mistakes he is a great leader. Pakistan is blessed to have a man with so much integrity.
 
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I don't see what Erdogan has done to deserve this award, any award for that matter.

I think the most suitable candidate is Sheik Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani, the Emir of Qatar. He has ensured that Qatar has not just survived, but thrived inspite of being blockaded by all its neighbours. He has pretty much showed the Saudis and everyone else the middle finger and ensured his country's prosperity.

He is also the youngest and most educated ruler in the Middle East.

Not many Muslims know or care about this Qatari man. He is quite possibly a puppet of the west.

Erdogan is the present face of the Muslim world. He is no puppet. Possibly the last fearless and relevant Muslim leader left.

Imran Khan has potential but he is still new to the scene. I am a big fan of both Imran Khan and Erdogan but Erdogan edges it for me.
 
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Erdogan has done some good things but some very foolish policies, invading Syria, turning a holy church into a mosque etc.

Arab rulers are puppets, dictators but yes the Qatari Emir is the best of a bad bunch.

Imran is head and shoulers above everyone else :afridi

Imran's policies are based on justice, diplomacy and helping the needy, a truly great man and although he may have made some mistakes he is a great leader. Pakistan is blessed to have a man with so much integrity. Just look across the border, India has Modi, the man is a walking talking joke.

I agree that invading Syria was a blunder. But, Assad was a tyrant. Also, Kurds were getting powerful and Erdogan had to intervene.

Imran Khan has lots of potential but I think he is still new to the scene. He is not battle-hardened yet but he is getting there.

Erdogan is still #1 for me.
 
Erdogan is the present face of the Muslim world. He is no puppet. Possibly the last fearless and relevant Muslim leader left.

As long as Turkey remains within NATO, Erdogan will remain a de-facto US satellite with no real, independent command of his military. His misadventures in Syria had full US blessing, just because Trump wanted to flex muscles with the Russians.
If Erdogan wants to show the kind of leadership that his friends in Pakistan claim of him, he must first lead Turkey out of NATO.

The truth is that notwitstanding all the bombastic talk about being a great leader of muslims by certain quarters, Erdogan has little to nothing to show by way of real achievement.
 
Damn it, maybe next year for me :yk Congrats to IK, I would put this right next to the 92 WC trophy :yk3
 
Sad state of muslims that a failure like Imran Khan is deemed as the most influential of all muslims. Would really want to know about his achievements as a PM. Erdogan obviously has a higher place in the list despite a) leading the turkish economy to a recession b) illegally invading Syria & causing bloodshed.

Comedian scholars like Tariq Jameel, Ilyas Attar Qadri & Jakir Naik are also among the list of most influentials.

Sad state of us muslims.
 
Sad state of muslims that a failure like Imran Khan is deemed as the most influential of all muslims. Would really want to know about his achievements as a PM. Erdogan obviously has a higher place in the list despite a) leading the turkish economy to a recession b) illegally invading Syria & causing bloodshed.

Comedian scholars like Tariq Jameel, Ilyas Attar Qadri & Jakir Naik are also among the list of most influentials.

Sad state of us muslims.

Its a list of influential people, not a list of accomplished individuals. No wonder it has a lot of politicians. Is the list wrong when it claims that Imran Khan has a lot of influence?
 
Sad state of muslims that a failure like Imran Khan is deemed as the most influential of all muslims. Would really want to know about his achievements as a PM. Erdogan obviously has a higher place in the list despite a) leading the turkish economy to a recession b) illegally invading Syria & causing bloodshed.

Comedian scholars like Tariq Jameel, Ilyas Attar Qadri & Jakir Naik are also among the list of most influentials.

Sad state of us muslims.

Yes number one should have been Sheikh Hasina :))
 
Comedian scholars like Tariq Jameel, Ilyas Attar Qadri & Jakir Naik are also among the list of most influentials.

Sad state of us muslims.

How is Zakir Naik a comedian scholar?

Do you work for BJP and RAW? You seem Indian to me.
 
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As long as Turkey remains within NATO, Erdogan will remain a de-facto US satellite with no real, independent command of his military. His misadventures in Syria had full US blessing, just because Trump wanted to flex muscles with the Russians.
If Erdogan wants to show the kind of leadership that his friends in Pakistan claim of him, he must first lead Turkey out of NATO.

The truth is that notwitstanding all the bombastic talk about being a great leader of muslims by certain quarters, Erdogan has little to nothing to show by way of real achievement.

How about showing a backbone? Probably an unfamiliar concept to mun pe ram ram types, But Erdogan and Imran both share this trait.
 
How about showing a backbone? Probably an unfamiliar concept to mun pe ram ram types, But Erdogan and Imran both share this trait.

Captain, for the benefit of your long time admirer, please could you use caps for Lord Ram, like you did for others in the sentence?
 
Ofcourse it has to be IK, he hasnt done anything for the economy but he did blow away india in the last 2 years and also chased the corrupt parties away.

In terms of erdogan, hes done jack, he has destroyed a once leading muslim economy and continues to show the world even moderate muslims are extremist.
 
Sad state of muslims that a failure like Imran Khan is deemed as the most influential of all muslims. Would really want to know about his achievements as a PM. Erdogan obviously has a higher place in the list despite a) leading the turkish economy to a recession b) illegally invading Syria & causing bloodshed.

Comedian scholars like Tariq Jameel, Ilyas Attar Qadri & Jakir Naik are also among the list of most influentials.

Sad state of us muslims.

If you don't think it is Imran Khan, who do you think should've been #1?
 
It’s a list of influential muslims, not just influential politicians who happen to be muslim. IK is currently one of very few people still talking about Palestinians and Kashmiris, from UN speeches to attempts to unify the ummah via Malaysia and Turkey.

Erdogan is similar but invaded Syria and still functions as a NATO ally whereas IK has severed Pakistan’s blood bonds. I don’t see the problem with this list.

Folks like MBS are too busy cosying up to Israel. So who, really, deserved this award?
 
Erdogan has done some good things but some very foolish policies, invading Syria, turning a holy church into a mosque etc.

Arab rulers are puppets, dictators but yes the Qatari Emir is the best of a bad bunch.

Imran is head and shoulers above everyone else :afridi

Imran’s policies are based on justice, diplomacy and helping the needy, a truly great man and although he may have made some mistakes he is a great leader. Pakistan is blessed to have a man with so much integrity.

Invasion of Syria will be beneficial for ummah in the long run. Israel is being encircled by the Turks. Erodgan has bigger plans.
 
Its a list of influential people, not a list of accomplished individuals. No wonder it has a lot of politicians. Is the list wrong when it claims that Imran Khan has a lot of influence?
I'm not arguing whether He's influential or not. What I'm saying that it's sad that if muslims get most influenced by failures like Imran Khan & Erdogan.

Also I dont think Imran khan has much influence on Pakistan let alone the outer muslim world. He very much seems like a puppet PM of the Pakistan military.
 
Yes number one should have been Sheikh Hasina :))

Sheikh Hasina has lifted millions of people out of povertyline, provides 300million free textbooks on the very first day of every year, has provided uninterrupted power supply throughout the country, has given shelter to 1.5 million of rohingas who were deported from their own country, has ensured the eradication of extremist movements, is building one of the longest bridges in Asia without the aid of World Bank or IMF. Sheikh Hasina has done things already that Imran Khan can only dream of doing.
 
How is Imran Khan perceived in Pakistan.

Modi in India remains a polarizing figure. While the noise of his hardcore supporters is loud, and has had a huge bearing on the poll results in Modi's favour, it is also a fact that no other political leader in India has been hated by nearly as many people as Modi.

What is Imran's vote bank primarily. What sort of voters does he attract the most?

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Glad for as long as Zayn Malik, Salman Khan don't receive these.
 
Sheikh Hasina has lifted millions of people out of povertyline, provides 300million free textbooks on the very first day of every year, has provided uninterrupted power supply throughout the country, has given shelter to 1.5 million of rohingas who were deported from their own country, has ensured the eradication of extremist movements, is building one of the longest bridges in Asia without the aid of World Bank or IMF. Sheikh Hasina has done things already that Imran Khan can only dream of doing.

Stop making a fool out of yourself.

You take cheap shots at Pakistan and yet you are on PakPassion.

People like you give Bangladesh a bad name.
 
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Stop making a fool out of yourself.

You take cheap shots at Pakistan and yet you are on PakPassion.

People like you give Bangladesh a bad name.
Many posters here have pointed out the ineptness of Imran Khan as a leader. Also I'm not the only one in this forum to point out the dark past history of Pakistan. Mamoon does that all the time. What's the point of having forums if you dont want to face the uncomfortable truths & opinions & views?
 
How is Zakir Naik a comedian scholar?

Do you work for BJP and RAW? You seem Indian to me.

You can build a mosque on non-muslim land because 2+2=4 but you cant build other places of worship in the muslim land because 2+2=5. A nonsensical reply that only can be given if someone is a comedian ala Zakir Naik.
 
You can build a mosque on non-muslim land because 2+2=4 but you cant build other places of worship in the muslim land because 2+2=5. A nonsensical reply that only can be given if someone is a comedian ala Zakir Naik.

Maybe it is nonsensical to you due to your ignorance but that doesn't mean it is nonsensical to everyone else.

Zakir Naik has millions of followers and is well-respected worldwide. Who exactly are you to call him a comedian? LOL.

Also, Yasir Qadhi is a pretty well-respected figure in North America. You clearly don't know much about him.
 
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Maybe it is nonsensical to you due to your ignorance but that doesn't mean it is nonsensical to everyone else.

Zakir Naik has millions of followers and is well-respected worldwide. Who exactly are you to call him a comedian? LOL.

Also, Yasir Qadhi is a pretty well-respected figure in North America. You clearly don't know much about him.

Only scholar to apply the great formula of 2+2=4 :))
So what if has millions of followers. How is that even relevant? Tariq Jameel, who makes the mockery of Islam by narrating false hadiths left right & center, has millions of followers. Ilyas attar Qadri has millions of followers, a guy who teaches how to cut cucumbers on live tv. Having millions of followers is not a valid metric of authenticity.

Yasir Qadhi is the same guy who has doubts about preservation & authenticity of the Quran. He also believes in zombies.
 
Only scholar to apply the great formula of 2+2=4 :))
So what if has millions of followers. How is that even relevant? Tariq Jameel, who makes the mockery of Islam by narrating false hadiths left right & center, has millions of followers. Ilyas attar Qadri has millions of followers, a guy who teaches how to cut cucumbers on live tv. Having millions of followers is not a valid metric of authenticity.

Yasir Qadhi is the same guy who has doubts about preservation & authenticity of the Quran. He also believes in zombies.

What kind of qualification do you have to call these preachers comedians?

Do you realize what you are typing?
 
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Erdogan - Bad.
Imran Khan - Bad.
Sheikh Hasina - Good.

Is BJP paying you to write these? This is comical.

I havent said whether they are are good or bad. I'm just stating that both Imran khan & Erdogan have been failures. Sheikh Hasina on the contrary has strengthen a poor economy, has provided shelter to 1.5 million rohingas. If same works would've been done by IK, then he would've hailed as a saviour.

Our beloved leader of Ummah, Mr. Erdogan has such good trade ties with Israel that Israeli businesses shifted Chinese orders to turkey during pandemics. If UAE wants to have relations with Israel, then its a big no no no. But if our beloved Erdogan not only trades with Israel but strengthens it, then it's all part of the bigger plan of our beloved Amirul Muminin.

Sad sad times that muslims are getting influenced by these failures & pretenders. I would rather take leaders of Qatar & UAE who are atleast doing a good job in managing their country's economy & looking out for their own national interests rather than pretending to be failed messiahs & Imam Mahdis.

https://www.dailysabah.com/business...fted-chinese-orders-to-turkey-during-pandemic
 
What kind of qualification do you have to call these preachers comedians?

Do you realize what you are typing?

Yes I've heard enoigh of this scholars to form an opinion. Zakir Naik provides strange logics like 2+2=4. Tariq Jameel narrates absolute false hadiths that are nothing but a mockery of Islam. Anyone with their right minds will avoid these preachers.
 
Yes I've heard enoigh of this scholars to form an opinion. Zakir Naik provides strange logics like 2+2=4. Tariq Jameel narrates absolute false hadiths that are nothing but a mockery of Islam. Anyone with their right minds will avoid these preachers.

I don't follow Tariq Jameel. Not sure why you are bringing up him. He may say wrong things but I never call him a comedian or anything else. We aren't qualified enough to call preachers names as we are not scholars.

2+2 = 4 was just an example. Are you that naive? It is obvious you do not understand what an analogy is.

Finally, your opinion doesn't mean anything. You are not qualified enough to call a preacher comedian.
 
How is Imran Khan perceived in Pakistan.

Modi in India remains a polarizing figure. While the noise of his hardcore supporters is loud, and has had a huge bearing on the poll results in Modi's favour, it is also a fact that no other political leader in India has been hated by nearly as many people as Modi.

What is Imran's vote bank primarily. What sort of voters does he attract the most?

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Imo IK is regarded highly as a PM apart from the supporters of Nawaz and Zardari. A lot of these supporters , some on this forum have lost a lot of money as they are no longer able to take part in looting the nation. Those who arent criminals could possibly not want any other leader apart from Imran right now.
 
I don't follow Tariq Jameel. Not sure why you are bringing up him. He may say wrong things but I never call him a comedian or anything else. We aren't qualified enough to call preachers names as we are not scholars.

2+2 = 4 was just an example. Are you that naive? It is obvious you do not understand what an analogy is.

Finally, your opinion doesn't mean anything. You are not qualified enough to call a preacher comedian.
2+2=4
Because Tariq Jameel is also among the list of most influential muslims. The guy starts his speech by uttering "mere Nabi ne farmaya" and then goes on to narrate absolute false & fabricated hadiths most of the time. He tells his audiences halal erotica in the name of heavenly rewards and you want me to take him seriously? Attributing lies to our Prophet(PBUH) is one of the biggest sins there is.

2+2=4 has to be one of the stupidest things that a scholar has ever said in Islamic history. Dr. Zakir Naik though, continuously uses this analogy as some sort magical equation. Non muslims neither can build any places of worship nor can preach their religion because their religion is 2+2=5. That is one of the absurd things I've ever heard. On the contrary, Quran clearly invites people to ponder & question because Allahs Book & religion is true and can withstand any challenge. Also the book of Allah provides freedom of religion with verses like La Ikraha fiddin & La kum dinukum Waliyadin. So clearly these scholars are making a mockery of religion with their childish speeches & acts.
 
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2+2=4
Because Tariq Jameel is also among the list of most influential muslims. The guy starts his speech by uttering "mere Nabi ne farmaya" and then goes on to narrate absolute false & fabricated hadiths most of the time. He tells his audiences halal erotica in the name of heavenly rewards and you want me to take him seriously? Attributing lies to our Prophet(PBUH) is one of the biggest sins there is.

2+2=4 has to be one of the stupidest things that a scholar has ever said in Islamic history. Dr. Zakir Naik though, continuously uses this analogy as some sort magical equation. Non muslims neither can build any places of worship nor can preach their religion because their religion is 2+2=5. That is one of the absurd things I've ever heard. On the contrary, Quran clearly invites people to ponder & question because Allahs Book & religion is true and can withstand any challenge. Also the book of Allah provides freedom of religion with verses like La Ikraha fiddin & La kum dinukum Waliyadin. So clearly these scholars are making a mockery of religion with their childish speeches & acts.

Again, you have zero Islamic qualification to make these assessments. You are only making a fool out of yourself.

Don't project your own faulty thought process on everyone else.
 
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and the obsession continues ..... Indian media needs burnol ...... low life of highest order .....

 
Again, you have zero Islamic qualification to make these assessments. You are only making a fool out of yourself.

Don't project your own faulty thought process on everyone else.

Do you have qualifications to make positive remarks this esteemed leaders?
 
Erdogan is what trump wish he could be. Has put journalists in jail ( One of the bigger abusers of the press). Makes derogatory comments on women. Has made it illegal to criticize the president. Has his family members in financially cushy positions. Changed the whole political set up so he could stay in power. Treats Syrians like pawns for his political gains. Thin skinned person. Oh yes the economy is in shambles.
 
Do you have qualifications to make positive remarks this esteemed leaders?

Everything I write can be verified with Quran, Sunnah, and scholars/preachers. I don't write out of my backside. Nothing I write is opinion based.

If Zakir gives you migraine, maybe you should avoid listening to him. Nobody is pointing a gun at your head to listen to him.

Also, these esteemed leaders have great reputations in Muslim world. Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it is not true.
 
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Everything I write can be verified with Quran, Sunnah, and scholars/preachers. I don't write out of my backside. Nothing I write is opinion based.

If Zakir gives you migraine, maybe you should avoid listening to him. Nobody is pointing a gun at your head to listen to him.

Also, these esteemed leaders have great reputations in Muslim world. Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it is not true.

Having a big following does not mean anything. Plenty of people that you might find offensive might have two million followers on twitter.
 
Something being in A holy book does not make it a fact. And you referencing it is an opinion in my book.
 
Having a big following does not mean anything. Plenty of people that you might find offensive might have two million followers on twitter.

Zakir is not even my most favorite preacher. I mostly listen to Aseem Al-Hakeem, Mufti Menk, Bilal Philips, Mohammed Hoblos, and Yasir Qadhi.

My point is Zakir Naik is recognized worldwide with great reputation among Muslims. He is not a random nobody from the internet.
 
Something being in A holy book does not make it a fact. And you referencing it is an opinion in my book.

Well, for Muslims, Quran is a very important book. We consider it to be 100% accurate and perfect.

If you are too naive to understand that, too bad.

Also, your opinion is irrelevant when it comes to Islamic matters as you are not a practicing Muslim (if I am not wrong).
 
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You don’t have to be Muslim to make comments on muslim related issues. I am sure you have made comments on issues that have nothing to do with you .
 
How is Imran Khan perceived in Pakistan.

Modi in India remains a polarizing figure. While the noise of his hardcore supporters is loud, and has had a huge bearing on the poll results in Modi's favour, it is also a fact that no other political leader in India has been hated by nearly as many people as Modi.

What is Imran's vote bank primarily. What sort of voters does he attract the most?

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The success of Imran is largely attributable to atrocious tenures of Nawaz (PMLN) and Zardari (PPP). The HDI in Pakistan was on a serious downhill slope and the country was being looted at record rate, the frustrated people of Pakistan just wanted a change in their life and Imran was the only change available. Further, Imran's provincial government in KP was doing well and KP people were genuinely happy. Given his success in KP and non-existence of his competitors Imran had a clear path to success.

What Imran has done in his 2 years of government is essentially kill whatever competition he previously had, I have no doubt in my mind Imran would win upcoming election too and this time with a majority.

As of today Imran has small wins to talk about but any large win is currently missing. In the remaining 3 years I do not see Imran delivering on a massive success either. However, in the next 3 years groundwork would be laid for a launch in his next term which he really wants as a majority power. If Imran gets majority in next election I can see Pakistan having the best 5 years it would have since 80s.

Regarding Imran's vote bank, it was pretty evident that he has attracted the votes of the educated folks in Pakistan. This was easy as educated folks would not vote for people that are corrupt for obvious reasons. He has now expanded his vote bank into lower income people as well with all the initiatives he bought in terms of ehsaas program and sehat sahulat.

Imran's biggest asset is his own self-belief. The general public do take him as their leader as he has shown leadership capabilities. For an educated folk in Pakistan its difficult for him/her to take Nawaz or Zardari as their leader as they would never look up to them but in case of Imran people to look up to him, this award is a reflection of the image he has which is all self-made.
 
Off the all the terrible choices out there imran was the best choice. I am willing to give him time to prove himself. However he does have many shady incompetent people around him. As I said the other choices have been tested and failed.
 
Maybe it is nonsensical to you due to your ignorance but that doesn't mean it is nonsensical to everyone else.

Zakir Naik has millions of followers and is well-respected worldwide. Who exactly are you to call him a comedian? LOL.

Also, Yasir Qadhi is a pretty well-respected figure in North America. You clearly don't know much about him.

He is banned in many countries. Zakir Naik.

Well respected. Lol.
 
He is banned in many countries. Zakir Naik.

Well respected. Lol.

List the countries please.

He is well-respected in Muslim community. Just look at his videos. He still gets thousands of comments/likes.

Problem is, he was taken out of context by people with agendas. He now has a great life in Malaysia.
 
List the countries please.

He is well-respected in Muslim community. Just look at his videos. He still gets thousands of comments/likes.

Problem is, he was taken out of context by people with agendas. He now has a great life in Malaysia.
His groundbreaking magical formula of 2+2=4 obviously isn't taken out of context 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
He had to apologize for his hateful speech in Malaysia. So yes great life .
 
List the countries please.

He is well-respected in Muslim community. Just look at his videos. He still gets thousands of comments/likes.

Problem is, he was taken out of context by people with agendas. He now has a great life in Malaysia.


He is a crazy extremist and now a fugitive from the law.
 
Sad state of muslims that a failure like Imran Khan is deemed as the most influential of all muslims. Would really want to know about his achievements as a PM. Erdogan obviously has a higher place in the list despite a) leading the turkish economy to a recession b) illegally invading Syria & causing bloodshed.

Comedian scholars like Tariq Jameel, Ilyas Attar Qadri & Jakir Naik are also among the list of most influentials.

Sad state of us muslims.

Bang on the money here. Couldn't agree more.
 
Everything I write can be verified with Quran, Sunnah, and scholars/preachers. I don't write out of my backside. Nothing I write is opinion based.

If Zakir gives you migraine, maybe you should avoid listening to him. Nobody is pointing a gun at your head to listen to him.

Also, these esteemed leaders have great reputations in Muslim world. Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it is not true.

No, everything you write cant be verified with quran, Sunnah & early Scholars. For example you have failed to show a single evidence from the Islamic books about your claim that Ottoman empire was a khilafah. Your source of information was wiki & Yasir Qadhi. These sources have no authority. Yasir Qadhi also is a scholar who confessed having no opinions & views of his own regarding religious matters. That makes him a parrot who can only memorise & mimick.

What you write is also opinion based. Difference is you have no original thoughts & views and only narrate views of the scholars you follow, who also have no authority on Islam. They're humans like you & me and their views and opinions can also be wrong & false. Only human to have any religious authority in Islam is Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) and no one else. Everyone else have zero authority.

Esteemed leaders in your book only includes Erdogan & Imran Khan. You have reservations about MBS, about Emir of Qatar, about Emir of UAE and about your own leader Sheikh Hasina. All of the leaders you have reservations about are way more successful than Erdogan, a guy who has surprisingly managed to destroy the economy of his country, has violated sovereignty of a neighbouring muslim country and to top it all, has great trade relations with Israel(Imran Khan dosent even belong to the A league yet).

Since you follow salafi scholars like Aseem Al Hakeem & Bilal philips, you might also want to know their views & opinions about Erdogan. Trust me it would be an entertainment of epic proportions :)) :))
 
Only scholar to apply the great formula of 2+2=4 :))
So what if has millions of followers. How is that even relevant? Tariq Jameel, who makes the mockery of Islam by narrating false hadiths left right & center, has millions of followers. Ilyas attar Qadri has millions of followers, a guy who teaches how to cut cucumbers on live tv. Having millions of followers is not a valid metric of authenticity.

Yasir Qadhi is the same guy who has doubts about preservation & authenticity of the Quran. He also believes in zombies.

Not to forget all his other rehearsed lines like "it is clearly mentioned ....." :))
 
No, everything you write cant be verified with quran, Sunnah & early Scholars. For example you have failed to show a single evidence from the Islamic books about your claim that Ottoman empire was a khilafah. Your source of information was wiki & Yasir Qadhi. These sources have no authority. Yasir Qadhi also is a scholar who confessed having no opinions & views of his own regarding religious matters. That makes him a parrot who can only memorise & mimick.

What you write is also opinion based. Difference is you have no original thoughts & views and only narrate views of the scholars you follow, who also have no authority on Islam. They're humans like you & me and their views and opinions can also be wrong & false. Only human to have any religious authority in Islam is Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) and no one else. Everyone else have zero authority.

Esteemed leaders in your book only includes Erdogan & Imran Khan. You have reservations about MBS, about Emir of Qatar, about Emir of UAE and about your own leader Sheikh Hasina. All of the leaders you have reservations about are way more successful than Erdogan, a guy who has surprisingly managed to destroy the economy of his country, has violated sovereignty of a neighbouring muslim country and to top it all, has great trade relations with Israel(Imran Khan dosent even belong to the A league yet).

Since you follow salafi scholars like Aseem Al Hakeem & Bilal philips, you might also want to know their views & opinions about Erdogan. Trust me it would be an entertainment of epic proportions :)) :))

It would be a real slap in the face for him when the reality dawns on him.

Speaking of Salafis and their views on Erdogan, it's ironic how they like to potray themselves as a religious role models but end up getting exposed for being a political movement when they start criticising Erdogan and the Ottomans.
 
No, everything you write cant be verified with quran, Sunnah & early Scholars. For example you have failed to show a single evidence from the Islamic books about your claim that Ottoman empire was a khilafah. Your source of information was wiki & Yasir Qadhi. These sources have no authority. Yasir Qadhi also is a scholar who confessed having no opinions & views of his own regarding religious matters. That makes him a parrot who can only memorise & mimick.

What you write is also opinion based. Difference is you have no original thoughts & views and only narrate views of the scholars you follow, who also have no authority on Islam. They're humans like you & me and their views and opinions can also be wrong & false. Only human to have any religious authority in Islam is Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) and no one else. Everyone else have zero authority.

Esteemed leaders in your book only includes Erdogan & Imran Khan. You have reservations about MBS, about Emir of Qatar, about Emir of UAE and about your own leader Sheikh Hasina. All of the leaders you have reservations about are way more successful than Erdogan, a guy who has surprisingly managed to destroy the economy of his country, has violated sovereignty of a neighbouring muslim country and to top it all, has great trade relations with Israel(Imran Khan dosent even belong to the A league yet).

Since you follow salafi scholars like Aseem Al Hakeem & Bilal philips, you might also want to know their views & opinions about Erdogan. Trust me it would be an entertainment of epic proportions :)) :))

Which Muslim leaders would you consider to be role models in the current world? And in the same vein, which scholars would you consider knowledgeable?
 
Which Muslim leaders would you consider to be role models in the current world? And in the same vein, which scholars would you consider knowledgeable?

I dont think there are many World leaders let alone muslim leaders who can really be taken as role models. Most muslim countries are also suffering due to not having qualified & competent leaders. The few competent leaders that we have are a mix bag with both good and bad things and cant be hailed as role models. PM Sheikh Hasina for example has done amazing work for social & economic growth, has almost crushed the extremists but has also hurt the basic democratic values such as freedom of expression. Ruling party is also corrupted to say the least and She hasnt done enough against corruption. But I would definitely rate her above Erdogan. Erdogan probably a way more autocratic leader but unlike SH, He has failed to improve the socio economic lives of the citizens. Though not role models, but there are muslim leaders who are way better than the likes of Erdogan or Imran Khan.

Coming to the scholars, I dont think scholars lack knowledge. They probably know more about life than most of us. But the problem is how they have a very non-scholarly attitude towards knowledge. Tariq Jameel for example should have way more knowledge about Hadiths than me. But whereas even with my limited knowledge I can identify false & fabricated hadiths, our beloved Tariq Jameel with all the knowledge propogates absolute falsehood in the name Islam. So either he's very poor on Islamic knowledge or he's intellectually dishonest. Zakir Naik seems to lack knowledge and he isn't a scholar so i wont talk much about him.

The scholars I do really like from sub-continent are Maulana Wahiduddin & Javed Ghamidi. They are truly knowledgeable and presents their view in a very scholarly way. From the Arab world, I admire & listen to Sheikh Farhan Al Maliki, Adnan Ibrahim. Ibrahim Al Bulaihi from Saudi Arabia is amazing as well. Waseem Yousef is also very good in his analysis and answers. I also listen to Sabir Ally from Uk. I like scholars who present critical and logical analysis of Islam & speak about the real issues that are plaguing us rather than those who are busy in chest beating & doing takfirs left right & center.
 
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Erdogan would have been a horrendous choice.

The average Turkish person's quality of life has reduced over recent years, thanks solely to this joker.

Imran may well be a worthy choice over a bombastic loudmouth who will be remembered for dragging the Turks into a recession and a pointless war at NATO's / Israel's behest.
 
too lazy to go through all the names but is Ilhan Omar on the list? She is probably the most influential Muslim leader in the US now and its even more commendable considering the amount of hate and Islamophobia she gets. Tlaib is another worthy mention and I see her picture on the cover.

If the criteria is "influential" surely there are way more deserved ones than these politicians. I would include athletes, scientists, innovators etc. in this list. But this list seems heavily skewed to either only politicians or scholars.

I feel more inspired by Mo Salah rather than let's say Zakir Naik
 
I like how Muslims writers/leaders represent India, this is not India of the old that of Gandhi/Nehru that we know, basically the India that got played by Muslim League, my assumption is influential Muslim writers/intellectuals think if non-Muslim countries are democratic and secular they are great but somehow that same logic doesn't apply to Muslim leaders??? IK is a good choice though

My rant is for the post above.
 
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I dont think there are many World leaders let alone muslim leaders who can really be taken as role models. Most muslim countries are also suffering due to not having qualified & competent leaders. The few competent leaders that we have are a mix bag with both good and bad things and cant be hailed as role models. PM Sheikh Hasina for example has done amazing work for social & economic growth, has almost crushed the extremists but has also hurt the basic democratic values such as freedom of expression. Ruling party is also corrupted to say the least and She hasnt done enough against corruption. But I would definitely rate her above Erdogan. Erdogan probably a way more autocratic leader but unlike SH, He has failed to improve the socio economic lives of the citizens. Though not role models, but there are muslim leaders who are way better than the likes of Erdogan or Imran Khan.

Coming to the scholars, I dont think scholars lack knowledge. They probably know more about life than most of us. But the problem is how they have a very non-scholarly attitude towards knowledge. Tariq Jameel for example should have way more knowledge about Hadiths than me. But whereas even with my limited knowledge I can identify false & fabricated hadiths, our beloved Tariq Jameel with all the knowledge propogates absolute falsehood in the name Islam. So either he's very poor on Islamic knowledge or he's intellectually dishonest. Zakir Naik seems to lack knowledge and he isn't a scholar so i wont talk much about him.

The scholars I do really like from sub-continent are Maulana Wahiduddin & Javed Ghamidi. They are truly knowledgeable and presents their view in a very scholarly way. From the Arab world, I admire & listen to Sheikh Farhan Al Maliki, Adnan Ibrahim. Ibrahim Al Bulaihi from Saudi Arabia is amazing as well. Waseem Yousef is also very good in his analysis and answers. I also listen to Sabir Ally from Uk. I like scholars who present critical and logical analysis of Islam & speak about the real issues that are plaguing us rather than those who are busy in chest beating & doing takfirs left right & center.

You have placed Sheikh Hasina above Erdogan. Wow! Just wow!

Erdogan is dealing with a lot of problems. Erdogan is fighting kurds, fighting Assad, having refugee crisis etc.

Hasina has no such problem.
 
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I personally would've made Mufti Menk as #1. This man is the best.

From leaders, only relevant ones are Erdogan and Imran Khan.
 
You have placed Sheikh Hasina above Erdogan. Wow! Just wow!

Erdogan is dealing with a lot of problems. Erdogan is fighting kurds, fighting Assad, having refugee crisis etc.

Hasina has no such problem.

:))) bro do you have a poster of Erdogan on your wall , this many excuses even Turks don't make for Erdogan
 
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You have placed Sheikh Hasina above Erdogan. Wow! Just wow!

Erdogan is dealing with a lot of problems. Erdogan is fighting kurds, fighting Assad, having refugee crisis etc.

Hasina has no such problem.
You seem to be naive about your country. Bangladesh currently has over 1.5 million rohingya refugees. Erdogan isn't alone in having refugee crisis. Sheikh Hasina dosent seem to have many problems because unlike Erdogan, she has solved many problems, has vastly improved the economy of the country and has improved the living standard of the country while being the PM of a third world country.
No one told Erdogan to invade Syria. He has created many problems for Turkey along with destroying its economy. He also seems a dodgy character criticising UAE-Israel deal when He himself has trade ties with Israel. He also has a history of trading with ISIS. You can breath a sigh of relief that an incompetent man like him isn't your President.
 
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I dont think there are many World leaders let alone muslim leaders who can really be taken as role models. Most muslim countries are also suffering due to not having qualified & competent leaders. The few competent leaders that we have are a mix bag with both good and bad things and cant be hailed as role models. PM Sheikh Hasina for example has done amazing work for social & economic growth, has almost crushed the extremists but has also hurt the basic democratic values such as freedom of expression. Ruling party is also corrupted to say the least and She hasnt done enough against corruption. But I would definitely rate her above Erdogan. Erdogan probably a way more autocratic leader but unlike SH, He has failed to improve the socio economic lives of the citizens. Though not role models, but there are muslim leaders who are way better than the likes of Erdogan or Imran Khan.

Coming to the scholars, I dont think scholars lack knowledge. They probably know more about life than most of us. But the problem is how they have a very non-scholarly attitude towards knowledge. Tariq Jameel for example should have way more knowledge about Hadiths than me. But whereas even with my limited knowledge I can identify false & fabricated hadiths, our beloved Tariq Jameel with all the knowledge propogates absolute falsehood in the name Islam. So either he's very poor on Islamic knowledge or he's intellectually dishonest. Zakir Naik seems to lack knowledge and he isn't a scholar so i wont talk much about him.

The scholars I do really like from sub-continent are Maulana Wahiduddin & Javed Ghamidi. They are truly knowledgeable and presents their view in a very scholarly way. From the Arab world, I admire & listen to Sheikh Farhan Al Maliki, Adnan Ibrahim. Ibrahim Al Bulaihi from Saudi Arabia is amazing as well. Waseem Yousef is also very good in his analysis and answers. I also listen to Sabir Ally from Uk. I like scholars who present critical and logical analysis of Islam & speak about the real issues that are plaguing us rather than those who are busy in chest beating & doing takfirs left right & center.

Isn't Sheikh Hasina regarded as an Indian puppet? Basically she takes diktat from India and thus her policies at home are heavily influenced by a neighbour who could (and probably will) turn hostile further down the road.
 
You seem to be naive about your country. Bangladesh currently has over 1.5 million rohingya refugees. Erdogan isn't alone in having refugee crisis. Sheikh Hasina dosent seem to have many problems because unlike Erdogan, she has solved many problems, has vastly improved the economy of the country and has improved the living standard of the country while being the PM of a third world country.
No one told Erdogan to invade Syria. He has created many problems for Turkey along with destroying its economy. He also seems a dodgy character criticising UAE-Israel deal when He himself has trade ties with Israel. He also has a history of trading with ISIS. You can breath a sigh of relief that an incompetent man like him isn't your President.

So, which person do you think should be #1 influential Muslim? You are yet to answer it.
 
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You seem to be naive about your country. Bangladesh currently has over 1.5 million rohingya refugees. Erdogan isn't alone in having refugee crisis. Sheikh Hasina dosent seem to have many problems because unlike Erdogan, she has solved many problems, has vastly improved the economy of the country and has improved the living standard of the country while being the PM of a third world country.
No one told Erdogan to invade Syria. He has created many problems for Turkey along with destroying its economy. He also seems a dodgy character criticising UAE-Israel deal when He himself has trade ties with Israel. He also has a history of trading with ISIS. You can breath a sigh of relief that an incompetent man like him isn't your President.

Erdogan was also credited with turning around Turkey's economy in his first stint as PM, although seems like his eagerness to assert Turkish influence in the region has seen a few former allies baring their teeth so that was always a risky move.

As for Hasina, is she personally responsible for BD's successful economy, or was it going in that direction anyway? Is it not possible that the opposition party could have done the same if they had oppressed Hasina's party and imposed peace in a similar fashion?
 
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