Imran Khan (Jr) - Your Thoughts on Him?

[yadunoe]

I think we should use Bhatti as a bowling allrounder I like his bowling

 

[Square Drive]

Looks just about decent with some rubbish deliveries every now and then. Doesn't look too special to me at the moment, but then again, this is a UAE pitch so it would be harsh to judge him based on this one performance.

Your thoughts?

 

[menace2society]

He actually has a good action, it is a mix between Gul and Asif. But he barely gets any swing and at that pace he must develop it otherwise bordering on trundling.

 

[akamaka]

Its only his first game on a pitch where nothing is happening for fast bowlers so have to reserve judgement. One thing I have noticed is that he doesn't spray the ball around much, keeps it up, and stump to stump.

 

[Junaids]

Who on earth would copy Umar Gul's action, then take 10 km/h off his speed? It's bizarre.

There is no future for this guy. Umar Gul was most useful as third seamer in 2010 behind Asif and Amir, with Ajmal at the other end, but even he was never a Test strike bowler.

My thoughts are that eleven months from now the fast bowling hierarchy should read:

1. Amir
2. Asif
3. Junaid
4. Irfan
5. Wahab
6. Ehsan Adil

To me, the future is Ehsan Adil, certainly outside Asia. But he needs to improve his batting as well as his bowling, because with Junaid and Asif there will already be two number 11s in the team.

 

[Sunny786]

He bowls at a good length consistently from the little I've seen of him.

 

[Fastandfurious]

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[AZ]

a trundler, could be useful on English and Kiwi wickets where there is plenty of swing but not in these barren conditions.

 

[Cricketfan no 1]

Who on earth would copy Umar Gul's action, then take 10 km/h off his speed? It's bizarre.

There is no future for this guy. Umar Gul was most useful as third seamer in 2010 behind Asif and Amir, with Ajmal at the other end, but even he was never a Test strike bowler.

My thoughts are that eleven months from now the fast bowling hierarchy should read:

1. Amir
2. Asif
3. Junaid
4. Irfan
5. Wahab
6. Ehsan Adil

To me, the future is Ehsan Adil, certainly outside Asia. But he needs to improve his batting as well as his bowling, because with Junaid and Asif there will already be two number 11s in the team.

Ehsan Adil is the most hyped trundler ever. no movement no pace . We have seen him in english conditions against weak sides and he did not impess at all

 

[JibranAnsari]

His armoury seems empty.

 

[Pete Rose]

Too early to write him off. I wanna see how he goes in the second innings.

 

[Mobashir]

Should never play again!

 

[proud_pakistani]

I liked his action and control, the issue is as Pakistanis we are constantly searching for the next Wasim or Waqar or someone who can replicate Asif. Any how I think he has the correct basics and can be a decent ODI bowler but maybe not for Tests. I did however feel he's better than Rahat Ali

 

[Abid Z]

There are some incredibly rash judgements on here considering that the poor guy has only bowled a few overs on debut on a dead pitch. Give him a chance for goodness sake. He bowls good lengths is reversing it and it's clear that pace attack is secondary to the spin trio for this match. He's not gonna blow the Aussies away but to keep these guys quiet for long stretches of the game is no mean feat.

Does anybody remember asifs debut in helpful Australian conditions? Nobody would have predicted then that he would reemerge as one of the worlds best bowlers. Give players a chance once they are selected for heavens sake.

 

[Pete Rose]

Not many pacers taking wickets in this match so far, so I would reserve judgement

 

[Saj]

If I'm being honest, from what I've seen of him on Test debut so far, I'm not overly impressed.

He's been bowling around 130kph most of the time and hasn't looked too threatening.

It's a flat track but I was expecting more from him.

 

[Saj]

haha and right on cue Imran comes up with a beautiful swinging delivery.

Great ball.

 

[Runner Up]

If I'm being honest, from what I've seen of him on Test debut so far, I'm not overly impressed.

He's been bowling around 130kph most of the time and hasn't looked too threatening.

It's a flat track but I was expecting more from him.

I guess he didn't like it

 

[Canistani Hero]

There are some incredibly rash judgements on here considering that the poor guy has only bowled a few overs on debut on a dead pitch. Give him a chance for goodness sake. He bowls good lengths is reversing it and it's clear that pace attack is secondary to the spin trio for this match. He's not gonna blow the Aussies away but to keep these guys quiet for long stretches of the game is no mean feat.

Does anybody remember asifs debut in helpful Australian conditions? Nobody would have predicted then that he would reemerge as one of the worlds best bowlers. Give players a chance once they are selected for heavens sake.

Preach.

Wish the majority of our supporters had more patience and a better understanding of the game.

 

[waleed88]

What a corker!!

Clear signs of Waqars coaching.

Both Rahat and Imran are given the ball when you'd be expecting spinners to dominate the day.

The ball has been prepared well for reversing.

Both Rahat and Imran have another dimension to their bowling. Which we never saw from Rahat under Mohammad Akram.

This is what you get from an A grade coach like Waqar.

Kids learning and bowling his trademark deliveries. Impressive!

 

[waleed88]

I think this is one of the nominees for the ball of the test match honestly.. To get a ball to reverse like that on a flat track.

Even Gilchrist was impressed.

 

[waleed88]

Shades of Umar gul and Shoiab Akhtar in that delivery.
Not to mention Rogers was the only batsman in form this innings.

 

[Savak]

I had a feeling he was included for his reverse swing abilities


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[Savak]

If I'm being honest, from what I've seen of him on Test debut so far, I'm not overly impressed.

He's been bowling around 130kph most of the time and hasn't looked too threatening.

It's a flat track but I was expecting more from him.

If it's a flat pitch why were you expecting more from him?


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[Mamoon]

Not good enough. Rather play Umar Gul than an unconvincing imitation.

 

[mr-k]

Other than JM which fast bowler has done done well on this pitch? Imran Khan is playing his first test and on dead wicket. He bowled well and will do even better in Australia New Zealand

 

[in_cutter]

Anyone know why Azhar Ali was having a go at him as the rest were celebrating the win..?

 

[Saj]

If it's a flat pitch why were you expecting more from him?


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Anyone knows that if it's a flat pitch or a green top that doesn't affect the pace of a bowler....or at least it shouldn't.

More as in terms of pace and aggression.

 

[Firebreaker]

As we know UAE conditions is not helpful for fast bowlers so I am not surprised but I think he can be useful for Pakistan in Australia and NZ conditions

 

[in_cutter]

Anyone know why Azhar Ali was having a go at him as the rest were celebrating the win..?

Anyone..?

 

[Rayyman]

Anyone..?

I think he was telling Imran to go tell Siddle that he is out

 

[dhump]

He is not special for sure plus on this wicket apart from Jhonson no pacer looked special at all.

I can safely say he is not as good as Jhonson.

 

[Adil_94]

He seems very mediocre seems a inferior version of Gul to me. At least Gul at his peak could bowl at 90mph and was deadly with reverse. Imran is a trundler who cant move the ball that much i dont see him surviving that long at this level.

 

[wrongun]

I think he was too slow to be much good with that action.

He was club level pace and will find it hard to disguise swing the way he bowls so batsmen will have plenty of time to read him.

 

[zacattakk]

Anyone know why Azhar Ali was having a go at him as the rest were celebrating the win..?

I thought it was because Imran had pulled out one of the stumps and Azhar was pointing out that the Australians were reviewing the decision hence the game wasnt officially over yet.

 

[Alchemy]

I think he would do good in Kiwi/English conditions.

 

[Silly Point]

Imran Khan - Is he good?

I haven't seen much of him, but his pace isn't that impressive.

How do you all rate him? How much movement has been getting with the new and old ball?

 

[menace2society]

His Gul style run up offends me.

 

[proud_pakistani]

Tbh I have really enjoyed watching him bowl. He has sent the stumps flying and the movement he has gotten from the old ball has been impressive.

 

[Kwremb]

Seems more of a reverse swing bowler but that may be due to the conditions, will have a better idea about his new ball abilities if he plays outside subcontinent

 

[khalil1986]

Not sure long term but him and Rahat have really done their job admirably and Khan just bowled Clarke with an absolute Jaffa.

 

[Madplayer]

thought he isnt international material but that delivery to clarke has forced me to think again.

 

[ethan hunt]

He bowls beautiful test match lengths and seems to have a bowling brain , set up clarke quite beautifully , his attacking lines and lengths give me hope that he can be a good test match bowler , lets reserve the judgement till he plays on a more helpful track .

 

[Asif khan]

Bowled a peach of a delivery to remove Clarke and is a good honest cricketer. Probably in the same caliber as the Indian trundlers Bhuvneshwar Kumar and Mohammad Shami.

 

[MRSN]

his pace is really worrying..He was bowling around 127 kph in his last spell. not good enough at this level. Doesn't matter if he is good with the old ball or new ball that pace won't most likely get you wickets.

 

[Barragan]

Picked up a wicket with the new ball and bowled an absolute ripper to Clarke.

Like I said previously, his attacking line and lengths, will help him greatly.

 

[Red Devil]

He swung the ball!! I saw a Pakistani bowler swing the ball

 

[Boi]

Needs to be persisted with. His pace will improve, just like Junaid's did over time.

 

[catch 22]

his pace is really worrying..He was bowling around 127 kph in his last spell. not good enough at this level. Doesn't matter if he is good with the old ball or new ball that pace won't most likely get you wickets.

hey why the hell are you obsessed with pace, he's far far far better than wahab and sami...pak have a real something to work with, only criticism justified against him is his lackadaisical attitude on the ground while fielding, need to work on his fielding big time!!

Have you seen philander bowl? oh right! he shoots bazookas...Typical pak mentality

 

[MRSN]

hey why the hell are you obsessed with pace, he's far far far better than wahab and sami...pak have a real something to work with, only criticism justified against him is his lackadaisical attitude on the ground while fielding, need to work on his fielding big time!!

Have you seen philander bowl? oh right! he shoots bazookas...Typical pak mentality

anything @ 127 ks become ineffective. Phillander is not that quick but he is quick enough to e affeactive. His average is mostly around 135 ks which is good enough. I know Imran Khan has few skills especially with the old ball but needs to raise his pace.

 

[in_cutter]

anything @ 127 ks become ineffective. Phillander is not that quick but he is quick enough to e affeactive. His average is mostly around 135 ks which is good enough. I know Imran Khan has few skills especially with the old ball but needs to raise his pace.

He picked up 3wkts? Not as useless as you are making him out to be.

 

[Bewal Express]

Bowled ok and will improve with experience.

 

[Fastandfurious]

Third line seamer like Junaid.

 

[Mobashir]

Another Tanvir Ahmed, not international quality.

 

[Saurav]

watched him for first time,looked good considering the pitch.The ball to Clarke was a jaffa

 

[Zaz]

Bowls some peaches, needs some work but could be a very good bowler

 

[in_cutter]

Folk expecting a out and out speedster. Does not happen everyday. This guy will be useful in Aus.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Can be a good third bowler but not a new ball bowler sadly

 

[Boi]

Pleased to see him bowling better lengths than the back of a length and short rubbish from the likes of Bhatti, Talha, Gul and even Junaid. Has something there that can be worked with.

 

[Mamoon]

Not penetrative at all with the new ball, trundles harmlessly with the old and produces a bit of spark when there is reverse swing on offer.

The story of every Pakistani fast bowler since Shoaib Akhtar barring Amir and Asif.

 

[dhump]

With his built and structure should be able to bowl faster than mid 20s and early 30s.

 

[Adil_94]

Not penetrative at all with the new ball, trundles harmlessly with the old and produces a bit of spark when there is reverse swing on offer.

The story of every Pakistani fast bowler since Shoaib Akhtar barring Amir and Asif.

Wahab isn't a trundler.

 

[Hawkeye]

Wahab isn't a trundler.

Wahab can't use the new ball. Gun barrel straight bowler like Gul/IK/Junaid, just have sheer pace.

Sami too isn't a trundler.

 

[Adil_94]

Wahab can't use the new ball. Gun barrel straight bowler like Gul/IK/Junaid, just have sheer pace.

Sami too isn't a trundler.

Wahab is a quicker version of IK. Bowling reverse at 145k is much better than IKs mid 130K trundling.

 

[Mamoon]

Wahab isn't a trundler.

Forgot about Wahab, yes his pace is an asset, but he's poor with the new ball as well.

 

[akamaka]

Continues to impress. Good lines and lengths bowled on this flat pitch. Beauty to get clarke, unplayable.

 

[Fahdi]

Seems nothing special. If he was operating at a 140+ he would have been promising but given his skill set this pace just does not cut it.

 

[mr-k]

Were are so called expert who called him and yasir shah ******.... Pakistan fans knows every thing lolz.

 

[mr-k]

Asif was arround 130k. Sami was 150k but got phanta. IK is 135-140 and in Australia NZ will do every well. He has swing

Wahab is a quicker version of IK. Bowling reverse at 145k is much better than IKs mid 130K trundling.

 

[Adil_94]

Asif was arround 130k. Sami was 150k but got phanta. IK is 135-140 and in Australia NZ will do every well. He has swing

Asif was a special talent. IK would get smashed in Aus and Nz

 

[Abid Z]

I can't fathom why some posters can't understand that bowling slightly short of a length in the uae is gonna result in about 5kph knocked off the speed gun reading immediately as the ball is gonna stick a little in the slow pitch. Therefore we don't have an accurate understanding of imrans true pace as even Mitch seems about 5-10kph slower. Except of course if he just takes the pitch out of the question by bowling low full tosses which he won't do.

So he is not a trundler by any means. He's bowled out swingers and indippers and reversed it while keeping it tight and picked up three good wickets. More importantly for the first time in ages it looks like we have a well synchronised bowling attack and nobody is a weak link. Yes he isn't like Shohaib, amir or asif but they were once in a generation type of bowlers.

What more do you kids want?

 

[in_cutter]

Seems nothing special. If he was operating at a 140+ he would have been promising but given his skill set this pace just does not cut it.

What is this obsession with pace? He still picked up three wickets!!!

 

[filthyfulltoss]

Has really good control and can move it both ways.

Not a bad reserve bowler

 

[Mamoon]

I can't fathom why some posters can't understand that bowling slightly short of a length in the uae is gonna result in about 5kph knocked off the speed gun reading immediately as the ball is gonna stick a little in the slow pitch. Therefore we don't have an accurate understanding of imrans true pace as even Mitch seems about 5-10kph slower. Except of course if he just takes the pitch out of the question by bowling low full tosses which he won't do.

So he is not a trundler by any means. He's bowled out swingers and indippers and reversed it while keeping it tight and picked up three good wickets. More importantly for the first time in ages it looks like we have a well synchronised bowling attack and nobody is a weak link. Yes he isn't like Shohaib, amir or asif but they were once in a generation type of bowlers.

What more do you kids want?

Speed is judged from the bowler's hand, not after it hits the pitch because the pace of the pitch has an influence. Imran Khan is definitely a trundler.

 

[m.shah]

needs to b persist

 

[IAJ]

Where has this army of negative posters come from?

The guy is playing only his second test and people have written him off. He has picked many vital wickets in the series so far. He has control over his bowling and swings the ball both ways.

There is alot of potential there to work on. In his first spell he bowls around 138-139 kph and that is not bad. He needs to work on his fitness and stamina to keep his pace up. We have seen bowlers do that in past and why can't he?

He can be real handy in Eng, SA and NZ.

 

[Abid Z]

If I'm not wrong its judged from the leaving of the hand to the arrival at a certain point. That arrival point i believe is closer to the opposite stumps or pitching point. so it's overall velocity but I could be wrong as I'm just going by what commies say I honestly haven't looked it up. However I do remember broad in the UAE being around the same speed and he is def not a trundler.

Trundlers are around 120-125. 135kph is strictly medium and very effective if you can bowl tight lines and lengths. I think imran bowls very good lines and length but he def isn't getting exaggerated movements like asif or b.kumar. I think we should judge him after a few more tests and enjoy the fact that we have the making of a good squad. Bodes well for the future.

 

[Mamoon]

Our pace bowling reserves are finished and we are scraping the barrel now. The likes of Rahat, Imran, Talha and Even Junaid are nothing more than disgrace to our pace bowling legacy on which we pride ourselves on.

From Fazal, Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib and Asif to this lot - how depressing.

Our only hope is for Amir to make a successful comeback and overcome the mental hurdles laid in his path mercilessly.

 

[Theo_14]

Watch how opinions change once he bowls on paradise pitches for bowlers. Why is it we judge players based on 1-2 matches. Give the boy a few series, let him show his abilities in non sub-continent pitches... Even Imran Khan doesn't know how dangerous he could potentially be on sub-continent pitches.

 

[Manager101]

The guy took 3 very important wickets today 'Rogers, Clarke and Marsh', I think he has potential to become successful for Pakistan. Pace isn't always important, its the ability to take wickets that is of highest significance. Sami was absolutely nothing as a so called 'express bowler', while Shaun Tait was good at the beginning but at the end batsmen used his pace for their own benefits. Even Asif had lesser bowling speed but still he was successful due to wicket-taking abilities and great control.

I think Imran Khan(Jr) has the skills and hopefully he will improve at international level.