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In Shadab Khan, Pakistan now has a dependable batter aside from talented leg-spinner, fielder

Mamoon said:
Jack of all, master of none.

5/10 bowler, 4/10 batsman, 8/10 fielder and 10/10 actor.

He is also not interested in playing Test cricket but has somehow conned PCB into investing him as a blue-eyed boy of Pakistan cricket. This guy does not make a serious team either as a batsman or as a bowler, and he is yet to figure out of he is a batting all-rounder or a bowling all-rounder. He is neither here nor there and that is because he is bang average at both.

Pakistan's spin bowling stock are at an all-time low. He would not have been anywhere near the national team only a decade ago.
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So he’s not a tail ender anymore. On a side note he always manages to outbowl your masters in Chahal etc in tournaments.
 
Mamoon said:
Jack of all, master of none.

5/10 bowler, 4/10 batsman, 8/10 fielder and 10/10 actor.

He is also not interested in playing Test cricket but has somehow conned PCB into investing him as a blue-eyed boy of Pakistan cricket. This guy does not make a serious team either as a batsman or as a bowler, and he is yet to figure out of he is a batting all-rounder or a bowling all-rounder. He is neither here nor there and that is because he is bang average at both.

Pakistan's spin bowling stock are at an all-time low. He would not have been anywhere near the national team only a decade ago.
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You don't seem happy:)):)):))
 
Remains to be see how he does outside of the UAE. IIRC he was a failure with Yorkshire and was terrible in the couple of games he played with the Sixers in the BBL.
 
Interesting comments from SK…

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<b>“We are a great side, now we want to become a champion side!”</b>

Due to the unprecedented weather conditions, one-third of Pakistan is currently underwater. Since we're away from our beloved homeland, watching the devastating calamity from afar makes it even more painful for us. We would like to win this tournament to bring lively smiles back on the faces of the people affected by the flood.

When we lost the first match of the tournament against India, we were confident we will rise. And rise we did. Rizwan played exceptionally well against Hong Kong, followed by a comprehensive bowling display that helped us earn a confidence-boosting win. Nawaz demonstrated great all-round skills against India in the Super-4 match, and although, I was the player of the match against Afghanistan, those two sixes by Naseem Shah will be eternally remembered!

We are a great team, but in order to become a champion side, we need to win this tournament and other high profile series. I have said this before that champion teams handle pressure well and prevail in clutch moments, and this is what we will aim for on the Sunday Finale. Winning against Sri Lanka and claiming the Asia Cup title is the real deal for us!

Babar Azam has taught us a lot, and besides the excellent team culture he has developed, I think the best facet of his leadership is the fact that he has inculcated the never give up attitude among us. Even if we find ourselves in hopeless situations, we are fully charged to fight till the last ball.

Amidst Shaheen's absence and some of our batters’ problems in searching for form, there was a general perception that Pakistan might get knocked out of the tournament at any stage. But the essence of cricket is based on teamwork and not individualism. We have also observed that after the Men's T20 World Cup 2021, various players from our team have stepped up and shown the determination to unleash their talents, making it a well-known fact that all the 11 players who take the field are match-winners.
 
We are a great team, but in order to become a champion side, we need to win this tournament and other high profile series. I have said this before that champion teams handle pressure well and prevail in clutch moments, and this is what we will aim for on the Sunday Finale
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Are they a great team?

I don't think so.
 
The way our current middle order is batting. I think for the World Cup we could move both Shadab and Nawaz in top 6 and accommodate 4 fast bowlers plus Imad in a Team.
 
Saj said:
Are they a great team?

I don't think so.
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His statement was subjective, and hence you’re entitled to your opinion on it.

Part of becoming great, is having self belief. Would you rather he say “We’re average at best, we’ll try our best, fingers crossed”
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shadab Khan's excellent bowling stats during the Asia Cup:<br><br>Overs 18.4<br>Runs conceded 113<br>Wickets 8<br>Average 14.12<br>Economy-rate 6.05<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AsiaCup2022Final?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AsiaCup2022Final</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvSL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvSL</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1568982493646229511?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Mamoon said:
Jack of all, master of none.

5/10 bowler, 4/10 batsman, 8/10 fielder and 10/10 actor.

He is also not interested in playing Test cricket but has somehow conned PCB into investing him as a blue-eyed boy of Pakistan cricket. This guy does not make a serious team either as a batsman or as a bowler, and he is yet to figure out of he is a batting all-rounder or a bowling all-rounder. He is neither here nor there and that is because he is bang average at both.

Pakistan's spin bowling stock are at an all-time low. He would not have been anywhere near the national team only a decade ago.
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He is a brilliant T20 bowler. 9/10 as a bowler in T20, got a 4-fer in Semi final vs Australia.
 
Did he get a concussion fielding in the circle earlier in the match ?. Cuz he's seems to have lost the plot afterwards:shadab:shadab
 
Its ok, this is a guy who shows up to the ground and puts 100percent of his effort. He has never dropped a catch, first time he had a bad day out there.

I know many will want to bash him and blame him for the game, but if this guy can field well in 99 games, I am willing to ignore his bad fielding in just one game. Even one game would be less if you realize how good of a fielder he is.

The Asif Ali catch just showed how Shadab was really desperate to prove his worth and just bumped in at the wrong time.

Anyways Shadab, such things happen and no hard feelings
 
Anyone who’s ever had a blow to the head knows that it always disorients you for a while. Even if you feel okay, you’re not quite 100%.

Getting smacked with the ball early on would have definitely contributed to that high skier he dropped, and then running into Asif.

Even the best outfield catchers like Warner have dropped them.
 
Major said:
Its ok, this is a guy who shows up to the ground and puts 100percent of his effort. He has never dropped a catch, first time he had a bad day out there.

I know many will want to bash him and blame him for the game, but if this guy can field well in 99 games, I am willing to ignore his bad fielding in just one game. Even one game would be less if you realize how good of a fielder he is.

The Asif Ali catch just showed how Shadab was really desperate to prove his worth and just bumped in at the wrong time.

Anyways Shadab, such things happen and no hard feelings
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The criticism isn't on the drop catch, that can happen to the best at times. The issue is the fielder collisions which shouldn't be happening at this frequency in a muhalla tram let alone an international one
 
That was Asif Ali's catch. Absolutely no need for Shadab Khan to even go for that catch.

I think he was trying to be the hero after dropping that sitter earlier.
 
Saj said:
That was Asif Ali's catch. Absolutely no need for Shadab Khan to even go for that catch.

I think he was trying to be the hero after dropping that sitter earlier.
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He is always fielding for the cameras.
 
What an unbelievable bit of brilliance that totally changed the trajectory of the game. Bowling wasn't great but just a bundle of energy this lad.
 
amazing moment from shady, wasnt his best with the ball today, didnt get to bat today, but still made a massive contriubtion.
 
He is everything you'd want in an allrounder for t20s. An organized, attacking leggie, more than useful with the bat and electric in the field. Shadab is a t20 swiss army knife.
 
He is an MVP candidate. Bankable T20 player. Has come a long way. Long back i remember he was dolling out half trackers/full tosses every over. Now he has achieved far better control.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shadab Khan tells Nasser Hussain "We get motivation from the fans who are behind us and who are praying for us" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/T20WorldCupFinal?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#T20WorldCupFinal</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvPAK</a> <a href="https://t.co/QiX80VfQW0">https://t.co/QiX80VfQW0</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1591176450362978304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 11, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Come a long way. Used to bowl 3 or 4 hit-me balls every over. He has very good control and is also a bit more strategic nowadays.
 
Pakistans Ravi Jadeja. Excellent utility cricketer in LOIs and hopefully can evolve into a test match winning bowling allrounder.
 
From BBL Today

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It disgusts me to see him playing T20'a in Australia when he should be playing test match cricket in Pakistan.

RIP Pakistan test Cricket
 
In Shadab Khan, Pakistan now has a dependable batter aside from talented leg-spinner, fielder………..& a coward who is scared of playing Test cricket.
 
Local.Dada said:
Pakistans Ravi Jadeja. Excellent utility cricketer in LOIs and hopefully can evolve into a test match winning bowling allrounder.
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He barely qualifies as a poor man’s Jadeja. Jadeja is better in all facets of the game & more importantly, he has the heart to play Test cricket & is en route to 300 Test wickets.
 
Plain to see Pak are not interested in test cricket they want to be 20/20 world beaters, the funny thing is they’re quite pathetic at that format aswell always bottling it in pressure situations.
 
PCB needs to offer lucrative contracts to players who are mainstays in tests. The talent is drifting towards T20 leagues.
 
MenInG said:
From BBL Today

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wow That is a sensational catch.
 
Mamoon said:
In Shadab Khan, Pakistan now has a dependable batter aside from talented leg-spinner, fielder………..& a coward who is scared of playing Test cricket.
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He has marketable skill set. He is going to milk it as much as possible.
 
T20 and ODIs are very different to Test Cricket.

Shadabs performances in 4 day matches with a good body of work is what will determine his long term prospects in tests.
 
It is amazing how he fooled the masses into thinking that he is a top player in the making.

He has always been a scam. A below average cricketer at best and 2023 should signal the end of his status as the default choice spinner for Pakistan in LOIs.

Dependable batter and talented leg-spinner? He is a glorified tailender with the bat and a glorified part-timer with the ball. A true bits and pieces cricketer.
 
Needs to be dropped from the ODI side for his own sake. He is bowling absolute garbage since the PSL and this is only going to be rectified away from the middle.

Pakistan also need to start grooming Usama Mir in case Shadab continues to perform badly.
 
He has dropped off a cliff and it's all his own doing.
Sacrificing playing first class cricket where he can hone his skills for various T20 leagues around the world...
The gun for hire is now more like a toy water pistol...

PCB must also take the blame for not laying down the law
 
Against NZ:

Averaged 10.50 with the bat.

Strike rate of 95.45

3 wickets in the series

Economy rate of 9.60

What a series for him!
 
He is going down the Hassan Ali route. A few matches he plays well and is a good bowler. Then he regresses and loses form. Gets some form back and bowls well. Again regresses and loses form.

No consistency and deserves to be dropped for a while to see he has the desire to work hard and get bowling with more consistency.
 
This guy is a poor batsman and a mediocre spinner. The only thing he excels at is fielding. He is basically the modern version of Anwar Ali, who was also a specialist fielder.
 
gazza619 said:
I think path is clearing for Imad to come back in ODIs. This also boosts the batting and gives the team an option with the new ball.

Imad & Usama are my spinners for the XI
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They will still go with Shadab in the world cup xi ahead of Usama I think.
 
Just checked Shadab's numbers and they are quite poor outside of the UAE. I still think he should go to the World Cup but he definitely needs to improve if he wants to live up to the hype that was around him a few years ago.
 
The problem is a lack of consistency.

By now he should be winning matches on his own for Pakistan - he rarely does that.
 
Too much T20 cricket has ruined him. Not playing first class cricket has stopped his growth as a cricketer. I can totally see him going Aamir's way by taking an early retirement and playing as a T20 specialist in leagues worldwide.
 
Honestly I reckon Shadab merits his place in the side Just for his fielding presence. As the old saying goes catches win you matches. Shadab would have 100% caught Warner when Mir dropped it and could have changed the game completely. Even came on as a Sub and took 2 catches.

We ain't the best fielding side and we know it, Imam, Babar & Iftikhar have all dropped important catches recently. Yes he needs to improve his bowling and batting as recent performances have been below par.
 
No. His attitude is that of a club level cricketer. Let him play 4 day cricket for a good year and work on his bowling, if he ever wants to play for Pak again.
 
2Slow2Curious said:
Honestly I reckon Shadab merits his place in the side Just for his fielding presence. As the old saying goes catches win you matches. Shadab would have 100% caught Warner when Mir dropped it and could have changed the game completely. Even came on as a Sub and took 2 catches.

We ain't the best fielding side and we know it, Imam, Babar & Iftikhar have all dropped important catches recently. Yes he needs to improve his bowling and batting as recent performances have been below par.
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1. Shadab wouldn’t be fielding where Usama was fielding

2. That series of events may not have happened if Shadab was in the team

3. Shadab bats like a tail-ender and bowls like a part-timer. Even if he fields like Jonty Rhodes, which he doesn’t, he doesn’t merit a place in the team.

4. No matter how good a fielder you are, you will be a liability if you are not contributing with either bat or ball
 
Mamoon said:
1. Shadab wouldn’t be fielding where Usama was fielding

2. That series of events may not have happened if Shadab was in the team
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Quite aptly put.

Glad to see someone stringing the obvious together in a post. 👍🏻
 
Shadab adds value through his batting and fielding so I believe it's a better choice to replace Usama with Shadab.
 
As his batting improved, his bowling got worse. And if I have the choice I’d rather just have an Iftikhar type player whose bowling might not take wickets but at least he has some control on run rate and is a better batsmen than Shadab.
 
Dropped for 1 game

The four horsemen. You can’t ever keep them out of the team no matter what happens!
 
Shadab Khan the bowler, to me at least, at best is a #2 spin option (and even that might be pushing it). He's not a good #1 spin option as, time and again, he is too inconsistent with his accuracy. He seriously needs to go back to FC to at least re-learn the art of bowling the stock ball. If he does this, which unfortunately I doubt he will, then him being the #2 spinner to, say, Abrar Ahmed being the #1 spinner in white ball cricket will do wonders for Pakistan.

Assuming Shadab's bowling form doesn't change, Pakistan need to move forward with giving Usama Mir and Abrar Ahmed lengthy ropes in at least ODI cricket. I think Shadab is fine for T20Is.
 
TeamPak95 said:
Shadab Khan the bowler, to me at least, at best is a #2 spin option (and even that might be pushing it). He's not a good #1 spin option as, time and again, he is too inconsistent with his accuracy. He seriously needs to go back to FC to at least re-learn the art of bowling the stock ball. If he does this, which unfortunately I doubt he will, then him being the #2 spinner to, say, Abrar Ahmed being the #1 spinner in white ball cricket will do wonders for Pakistan.

Assuming Shadab's bowling form doesn't change, Pakistan need to move forward with giving Usama Mir and Abrar Ahmed lengthy ropes in at least ODI cricket. I think Shadab is fine for T20Is.
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I think T20 bowling kind of ruined him tbh.

He still tries to do the things which keep bringing him success in T20 in the ODI arena. But it’s like he’s almost trying too hard. Needs more consistency and more subtle variation.
 
160KPH said:
I think T20 bowling kind of ruined him tbh.

He still tries to do the things which keep bringing him success in T20 in the ODI arena. But it’s like he’s almost trying too hard. Needs more consistency and more subtle variation.
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Well I think that's what happens when he's playing in almost every t20 league that is out there. At least participate in ones that are more, conditions wise, challenging for him such as BBL and Vitality Blast. Not that he's too good for BPL, CPL, SLPL but in the long run, it'll potentially do Pakistan good if Shadab gains more and more experience bowling in England and Australia so that when Pakistan do play England and Australia (away) in white ball cricket, he'll be more prepared and battle-hardened.

Regarding t20s affecting his ODI performances, I believe this puts even more emphasis on why he should re-learn the art of the stock ball. You're naturally going to rely on your stock ball more in ODI cricket than in t20 cricket, especially for building towards that wicket-taking ball. Those subtle variations and wicket-taking deliveries are more heavily dependent on building pressure through bowling your stock deliveries ball after ball in ODI cricket. The one positive here is that Shadab is still young, he's only 25 so he's got the time to work on this. It's just a matter of when/if he works on his stock delivery.
 
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