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India [268/7] defeat West Indies [143] to win by a comfortable margin of 125 runs in the World Cup

Easy win for India. Can't believe Pak lost to such a pathetic side that may be the crucial factor if we don't make it to the semi's. West Indies are an embarrassment. Sri Lanka should defeat them easily as well.
 
I have to say though.Bar Kohli and Sharma the Indian batting is not good at all.Doesnt inspire confidence on a consistent basis.However still good enough to rack 200+ scores and the bowling is worldclass so it covers up pretty well.
Still the toughest team out of all considering their professionalism and execution of plans.
 
indian middle order is fragile,i want to see this team in chasing the match when the opposition scores above 250
 
Indian bowling is just too good. Only England and Aussies can stop them from lifting this wc. India really need to get Shankar out and get some good batsman in.
 
Indian bowling attack has the ability to take wickets in the middle overs.

That sets them apart from every other attack.
 
Green Patriot said:
I have to say though.Bar Kohli and Sharma the Indian batting is not good at all.Doesnt inspire confidence on a consistent basis.However still good enough to rack 200+ scores and the bowling is worldclass so it covers up pretty well.
Still the toughest team out of all considering their professionalism and execution of plans.
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The consistency of their bowlers is remarkable.
 
MRSN said:
Indian bowling is just too good. Only England and Aussies can stop them from lifting this wc. India really need to get Shankar out and get some good batsman in.
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I would face literally ANY team in a knockout match other than Australia. Not Australia. Nope.
 
Itachi said:
Other teams playing poorly. India has 4 passenger in the team. Bowling is what saving us.
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Mohammed Shami has picked up another 4 wicket, it will be difficult to choose between Shami & Bhuvneshwar. Harsha said he prefers Bhuvi before the start of the matches.

The 4 passengers will bounce back, be positive brother :amla
 
If only Dhawan were still there with KL plying 2 down and no Chavanni player like Vijay Shekhar. India would have had much better chance to grab the cup. But you can’t have everything.
 
PakLFC said:
Never mind the if's and what's or who was injured when Pak thrashed you! If you keep going on about past results then I will do so as well. I believe India defeated Pak in the round robin stage of the Champions Trophy before losing in the final. If Pak does make it to the semi's India will be facing a different monster this time. You still have plenty of spinners that can be mauled as well.
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this conversation is best had after pakistan qualifies for the world cup. considering there are two games - bangladesh and sri lanka where pakistan faces opposition that is also competing for the last semi-final position, you are in for a challenge.

i am of the firm belief that if amir does not make initial inroads in either of those games, pakistan will be out of the cup.
 
What a team. Only England can stop them from winning the World Cup.
 
DeadlyYorker said:
No we have culture of only giving chances to youngsters until thry reach certain age that is why none of young playes who have performed in ipl are given chances any team would have already given likes of pant ,prithvi atleast 15-20 games by now.

When you have talent and they r expected and yet not given chances they get ruined ,

Possible change should be prithvi shaw opening with rohit and KL back to #4 and pant pandya on #5-#6
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pant i am not sure. prithvi shaw is an amazing talent, unless kohli n gang play politics he will be a permanent in our national side..
 
Australia and India are the teams to beat in this WC. I have said for the last few days. They are well balanced teams. I don't see us beating either team in a knockout game.
 
baggy blue said:
pant i am not sure. prithvi shaw is an amazing talent, unless kohli n gang play politics he will be a permanent in our national side..
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Kohli and gang playing Politics,are u kidding me.
They is no room for opener in odis.
He played test series aganist wi and was selected for aus away test series and he got injured.
 
India have the look of a team just coming nicely to the boil, much like the English summer that is forecast to reach heatwave territory at the weekend.

Their 125-run victory knocked West Indies out of the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup and maintained their status as the only unbeaten side left in this tournament.

India reclaimed the No.1 spot in the ICC ODI Team Rankings for the first time in 14 months – to add to their equivalent status in the Test rankings – before they had even bowled a ball. England’s comprehensive defeat by Australia at Lord’s on Tuesday knocked the hosts off the top spot.

Old Trafford was the venue where, in 1983, India first shocked West Indies, the world’s best side at the time who had not lost a single World Cup fixture in the two previous tournaments. A fortnight later, outsiders India did it again to lift the first of their two World Cups and transform the game in their country.

MS Dhoni is the only player in this Indian side who was born at the time of that 1983 triumph and he was memorably the captain who finished the 2011 tournament with a towering six into the Mumbai night to complete India’s victory over Sri Lanka.

He finished off his unbeaten 56 at Old Trafford with a six too and although the two situations are not remotely comparable, this was a contribution of significance to team and self.

It was not India’s highest score – that honour went inevitably to Virat Kohli whose 72 took him past 20,000 international runs across all formats. He is the fastest of the 12 men to reach that monumental milestone.

But this was Dhoni’s first half-century of the tournament and was compiled in the manner that we have come to expect from the Indian gloveman, who is ten days away from his 38th birthday.

Captain Virat Kohli said of his predecessor: “He knows exactly what he is doing out there. The best thing is that when we need those extra 15 or 20 runs he knows exactly how to get them.”

Dhoni began circumspectly with 20 runs coming from his first 40 balls but 36 came from the next 21 as he and Hardik Pandya enjoyed a frenetic sixth-wicket stand of 70 from ten overs.

That partnership stretched India’s total from potentially manageable for West Indies to out of reach on a surface that had previously been used in the Windies’ thriller against New Zealand last weekend.

India scored 82 off the last ten overs and 49 off the last five, justifying once again their very precise approach to setting a target.

At three runs per over in the first five overs, they are the slowest starters in the tournament but crucially they have lost only one wicket in that period in their six games so far.

The margin of victory would suggest that Shai Hope’s stumping miss when Dhoni had scored only eight was of limited significance but at the time it felt like a turning point.

Dhoni was so far down the pitch when left-arm spinner Fabian Allen got one past his outside edge that Hope had enough time to have two stabs at removing Dhoni. But having missed the first opportunity, he failed to grab the ball at the second attempt and when he knocked the bails off with his right glove the ball was still on the ground.

Dhoni had his own stumping miss but he made up for it with a spectacular right-handed diving catch to remove Carlos Brathwaite off Jasprit Bumrah.

Hope’s day got no better, though, and he became one of Mohammed Shami’s four victims, bowled by a beauty that seamed in between bat and pad before clipping off stump.

Shami’s figures of 4/16 leave him with a remarkable haul of 8/56 from the last two matches, following his hat-trick against Afghanistan.
 
jiduguravindra said:
Kohli and gang playing Politics,are u kidding me.
They is no room for opener in odis.
He played test series aganist wi and was selected for aus away test series and he got injured.
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Yes, but his injury has healed a long time ago. He and maybe Gill should have been in the team. When you have batsmen of Shaw and Gill's quality, there should be no place for Jhadav and Shankar in the team.
 
Is this a WI ODI team or a t20 team!
Why so many hacks in the team?
Where is Lendl simmons and Darren bravo? These two are up there with the best in the world in their age range!
Pooran and hetymer(sorry if i have mis -spelt their names) have potential, but darren and lendl are the real deal!
 
BlueBeamer said:
Then India's really outta luck coz frankly I don't see this PAK team playing a major final in this decade.
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I do! We have the momentum behind us now after two good wins. If we reach the semi's then I fancy Pak to go all the way.
 
captain.hansolo said:
this conversation is best had after pakistan qualifies for the world cup. considering there are two games - bangladesh and sri lanka where pakistan faces opposition that is also competing for the last semi-final position, you are in for a challenge.

i am of the firm belief that if amir does not make initial inroads in either of those games, pakistan will be out of the cup.
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If Pak makes it to the semi's then we will win it. Every team has a bowler they depend on more then others. India would be weakened greatly if Bumrah was not performing as well. Shaheen took three versus the Kiwis when Amir was relatively quite, others just need to do the business if Amir is having an off day. Pak has no control over what Sri Lanka does where as I expect Bangladesh to be competitive for sure.
 
Dhoni got such an incredibly luck reprieve yesterday when he was batting on around 10 I think. Wow, just wow! The keeper could´ve stumped him even the second time around as he had so much time. He was plain lucky there. However, what exactly was it what the on-field umpires sought to clarify through the third umpire? Even if the ball had been collected cleanly by the keeper, what matters here is that the bail settled back onto the stumps after slight bit of movement, so it would´ve stayed not out. Even Michael Holding was laughing about the umpire review :)). Just goes to tell you the depth of the cricket laws and regulations that even umpires can get a very basic thing wrong. Either way, it was funny.

Oh´ and, those two sixes and a boundary by Dhoni in the last over was pure entertainment. Not his best innings, and certainly not the best that he has batted, but it proved to be good enough in the end. Quite happy. :msd
 
Bitterly disappointed with the West Indies. I just wonder as a cricket fan as to what kind of a pitch is it which this batting line-up prefers. On a flat track their bowlers end up conceding over 400, on a spinning and slow track, their batsmen get devoured by the opposition´s spinners, and on a greenish or a bouncy pitch they´ve often half their side dismissed by the 10th over. I mean, yesterday´s pitch wasn´t really too different from the kind of pitches provided in their own land, and yet they batted as if they´ve been put in on an alien planet.

The "Universe Boss" is all good for jokes, humour and light-hearted stuff, but the lack of seriousness on his face and the lack of the seriousness required in an international sports on his part really hurts me to see. I don´t remember the last time he made meaningful runs for the West Indies in ODI cricket. It was back in ICC Champions Trophy 2006 I think when Gayle last came good for them. He´s much ado about nothing really! It hurts really given the potential of the man.
 
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The last time the West Indies beat India in a World Cup match was way back in 1992. Phew! Not a very encouraging reading, this.
 
DHONI183 said:
Bitterly disappointed with the West Indies. I just wonder as a cricket fan as to what kind of a pitch is it which this batting line-up prefers. On a flat track their bowlers end up conceding over 400, on a spinning and slow track, their batsmen get devoured by the opposition´s spinners, and on a greenish or a bouncy pitch they´ve often half their side dismissed by the 10th over. I mean, yesterday´s pitch wasn´t really too different from the kind of pitches provided in their own land, and yet they batted as if they´ve been put in on an alien planet.

The "Universe Boss" is all good for jokes, humour and light-hearted stuff, but the lack of seriousness on his face and the lack of the seriousness required in an international sports on his part really hurts me to see. I don´t remember the last time he made meaningful runs for the West Indies in ODI cricket. It was back in ICC Champions Trophy 2006 I think when Gayle last came good for them. He´s much ado about nothing really! It hurts really given the potential of the man.
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Very well written. I hoped this world cup would really turn the West Indies cricket around but what a disappointment it was! The Pakistan game really deluded all of us into thinking they turned the tide but nope... they returned to their regular old ways. I felt the middle order was too raw to my liking. They probably should have had one senior guarding the likes of Pooran, Hetmyer, Ambris around. The unfortunate thing is that this West Indies team has a tremendous potential and a great leader but somehow got their tactics wrong at times. Some patience and experience in the middle would have helped them a long way!
 
jiduguravindra said:
Kohli and gang playing Politics,are u kidding me.
They is no room for opener in odis.
He played test series aganist wi and was selected for aus away test series and he got injured.
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kohli is not playing any politics . not so far but that is to be antiicipated when a super talented guy start stealing the limelight. i think u misunderstood my post. i didnt say they played politics !.
its Not just kohli it happens with everyone
 
Ram Shekhar said:
Very well written. I hoped this world cup would really turn the West Indies cricket around but what a disappointment it was! The Pakistan game really deluded all of us into thinking they turned the tide but nope... they returned to their regular old ways. I felt the middle order was too raw to my liking. They probably should have had one senior guarding the likes of Pooran, Hetmyer, Ambris around. The unfortunate thing is that this West Indies team has a tremendous potential and a great leader but somehow got their tactics wrong at times. Some patience and experience in the middle would have helped them a long way!
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You're not the only one. They deluded many of us into expecting big from them. My father even expected them to reach the semi-finals. Actually, the loss over Australia too had much hope in it given how tight the contest was, but I think from the Bangladesh game onwards everything fell apart.

Who`re these seniors who you think could've guided the inexperienced newcomers? It'll be interesting to know what names you've in your mind.
 
DHONI183 said:
You're not the only one. They deluded many of us into expecting big from them. My father even expected them to reach the semi-finals. Actually, the loss over Australia too had much hope in it given how tight the contest was, but I think from the Bangladesh game onwards everything fell apart.

Who`re these seniors who you think could've guided the inexperienced newcomers? It'll be interesting to know what names you've in your mind.
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I thought Holder would bring about the change. I don't think they are listening to him. Their bowling strategy was spot on. No complaints except from Oshane Thomas.But batting against spin was really appalling.
 
Mamoon said:
What a team. Only England can stop them from winning the World Cup.
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You must be watching a different tournament :D The only team that has a bookmaker's chance of beating India on current form is Australia - and India know this too.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
I thought Holder would bring about the change. I don't think they are listening to him. Their bowling strategy was spot on. No complaints except from Oshane Thomas.But batting against spin was really appalling.
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I don´t deny that their bowling has overall been the better of the two department, but even here I´m not too sure what to add, because the day their batting clicks for a change, their bowling goofs up things. The game against Bangladesh, which laid the foundation for their exit from the tournament, is a prime example of this. Also, the bowlers let both Australia as well as New Zealand off the hook and weren´t in the end able to restrict them to comfortably chaseable totals. Even against India yesterday, on that pitch, 269 should´ve never been allowed. Should´ve restricted India to below 240.

But generally yes, I agree that if the West Indies batting line-up had done their job well, they would´ve by now booked themselves a berth in the semi-finals. So yes, more blame lies on them than the bowlers.
 
DHONI183 said:
You're not the only one. They deluded many of us into expecting big from them. My father even expected them to reach the semi-finals. Actually, the loss over Australia too had much hope in it given how tight the contest was, but I think from the Bangladesh game onwards everything fell apart.

Who`re these seniors who you think could've guided the inexperienced newcomers? It'll be interesting to know what names you've in your mind.
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Marlon Samuels immediately comes to mind. Maybe he could have played..
 
Ram Shekhar said:
Marlon Samuels immediately comes to mind. Maybe he could have played..
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Not quite in my opinion. The guy never was and never will be a force to reckon in ODI cricket. His blocking around often gives the impression of him having got set, but then a horrible shot would end his 60-ball 20. In the end, he would only prove to be a burden on the team. Better play 10 players if he´s the only option available.
 
DHONI183 said:
Not quite in my opinion. The guy never was and never will be a force to reckon in ODI cricket. His blocking around often gives the impression of him having got set, but then a horrible shot would end his 60-ball 20. In the end, he would only prove to be a burden on the team. Better play 10 players if he´s the only option available.
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Haha.. tend to agree with you.. but they somehow they failed to transition the team well!
 
Ram Shekhar said:
Haha.. tend to agree with you.. but they somehow they failed to transition the team well!
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The set of batsmen played is alright I feel. Just that they need better application. Some of the seniors who´ve been left out, many of them were average ODI batsmen and at most were minnow-bashers I´d say.
 
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