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The United Kingdom categorically refused India’s request to cancel an event highlighting human rights violations in occupied Kashmir.

The event is scheduled to be held at the British Parliament.

According to India Today, Indian Ministry of External Affairs spokesperson Raveesh Kumar said New Delhi had taken up the matter with the British government.

“We have taken it up with the UK very strongly. We hope that they will understand our objections to the proposed conference and take appropriate action,” said Kumar.

“As a friendly country and as a strategic partner, we hope that the government of the United Kingdom will address our concerns which we have explained to them on the proposed conference.”

Blaming Pakistan for ‘duplicity’, the Indian official said, on one hand, Islamabad talked about peace but it was “working together with forces which are pushing or fermenting anti-India sentiments”.

The event is expected to be attended by Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi, who is scheduled to travel to the British capital on those days.

Thrashing the hopes of the Indian government, the British government asserted that it will not interfere in the matter.

“The United Kingdom Members of the Parliament are independent of government,” said the British High Commission spokesperson in New Delhi. “It is for the individual members to decide who they meet and for what purpose.”

The meeting is being organised at the House of Commons by the All Party Parliamentary Group on Pakistan (APPG-Pakistan) that comprises MPs from the Conservative and Labour Party.

It will be followed by an exhibition in London. The APPG-Pakistan’s event aims to “highlight the centrality of Jammu and Kashmir dispute and the grave human rights violations against the Kashmiri people, by India, which are being widely condemned and need to be immediately stopped,” said a FO press release.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/190158...vent-highlighting-brutality-occupied-kashmir/
 
UK notes India’s protest, nixes London meet with Pak FM on his ‘Kashmir’ visit


Within days of tensions escalating between New Delhi and Islamabad over Pakistan foreign minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi’s phone conversation with Hurriyat leader Mirwaiz Umar Farooq, the British government heeded India’s strong objections, a source told TOI, to withdraw its official meetings with Qureshi on his upcoming trip to London for a controversial conference and exhibition “on Kashmir”.
A UK foreign office spokesman confirmed: “We understand Mr Qureshi is travelling to London to attend a number of private events. There are no plans for meetings with the UK government during this visit and he is not a guest of the government.”

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/m.ti...r-indias-protest/amp_articleshow/67813282.cms
 
These are feel good events for people outside. Anyone who has lived in the UK and USA knows the difference in perception both countries enjoy amongst the public or with the government
 
These are feel good events for people outside. Anyone who has lived in the UK and USA knows the difference in perception both countries enjoy amongst the public or with the government

The UK has a large Kashmiri popluation, often referred to as Mirpuri, possibly in ignorance, will wait for [MENTION=396]mani1[/MENTION] to clarify on this issue. So it is very relevant as far as they are concerned as they have relatives still living in Kashmir.
 
The UK has a large Kashmiri popluation, often referred to as Mirpuri, possibly in ignorance, will wait for [MENTION=396]mani1[/MENTION] to clarify on this issue. So it is very relevant as far as they are concerned as they have relatives still living in Kashmir.

An Australian politico-strategic analyst and author, Snedden’s book provides an alternative history to the Kashmir dispute, locating its origins not in the invasion of Pukhtoon tribesmen from Pakistan, as India has consistently claimed, but in protests in Poonch and Mirpur by people long disenchanted with Maharaja Hari Singh’s rule. The people of Poonch and Mirpur eventually ‘liberated’ themselves from the Maharaja’s rule and formed the government of Azad Kashmir in October, before the king acceded to India.

https://www.thehindu.com/features/metroplus/reimagining-kashmir/article4465702.ece

Thankfully those "Kashmiris" from AJK don't have to deal with this due to what occurred previously by those from AJK

It will be followed by an exhibition in London. The APPG-Pakistan’s event aims to “highlight the centrality of Jammu and Kashmir dispute and the grave human rights violations against the Kashmiri people, by India, which are being widely condemned and need to be immediately stopped,” said a FO press release.
 
UK notes India’s protest, nixes London meet with Pak FM on his ‘Kashmir’ visit


Within days of tensions escalating between New Delhi and Islamabad over Pakistan foreign minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi’s phone conversation with Hurriyat leader Mirwaiz Umar Farooq, the British government heeded India’s strong objections, a source told TOI, to withdraw its official meetings with Qureshi on his upcoming trip to London for a controversial conference and exhibition “on Kashmir”.
A UK foreign office spokesman confirmed: “We understand Mr Qureshi is travelling to London to attend a number of private events. There are no plans for meetings with the UK government during this visit and he is not a guest of the government.”

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/m.ti...r-indias-protest/amp_articleshow/67813282.cms
Nice try but as usual your post is disingenuous and duplicitous.
On topic, this is how democracy in the UK works. Nothing India can do about it but continue crying.
 
Very strange Indians thought they could dicate to the UK.

No offence to Indians but most of the public here see India is a third world country which takes aid of the UK and those that know of Kashmir see India as a state terrorist.
 
Very strange Indians thought they could dicate to the UK.

No offence to Indians but most of the public here see India is a third world country which takes aid of the UK and those that know of Kashmir see India as a state terrorist.


Spot on

People here are not fooled by the terrorist nation...
 
Spot on

People here are not fooled by the terrorist nation...

The country is living in some sort of Bollywood mentality. UK is a free nation where the people have a right to voice their concerns on any subject in a public arena. If there is one nation the UK tries to respect is USA but even then Trump wasn't invited straight away, he threatned not to come if there is a protest and when he did arrive there was a huge protest against him.

The protests agaisnt Indian state terrorism in Kashmir have been going on in the UK for decades now and wont stop. Instead of trying to hide their cimes, India should stop them!
 
Very strange Indians thought they could dicate to the UK.

No offence to Indians but most of the public here see India is a third world country which takes aid of the UK and those that know of Kashmir see India as a state terrorist.


Pakistani view on India doesnot dictate the view of UK. No matter how much you guys try,no one takes pakistani views on India seriously.

Pakistanis are among the lowest earning community in UK.

Btw people originating from which country committed one of the biggest terror attack in UK?


When was the last time a UK PM visited Pakistan?


Worry about Pakistan's image. India doesnot suffer from extreme vetting for Visas.
 
Pakistani view on India doesnot dictate the view of UK. No matter how much you guys try,no one takes pakistani views on India seriously.

Pakistanis are among the lowest earning community in UK.

Btw people originating from which country committed one of the biggest terror attack in UK?


When was the last time a UK PM visited Pakistan?


Worry about Pakistan's image. India doesnot suffer from extreme vetting for Visas.

Im talking from a British perspective, no need try to divert it to Pakistan as you usually do.

British Pakistani views do hold a lot of poltical power in the UK and many events regarding the state terrorism in Kahsmir are organised by them and attended by them along with British people of all communites.

Sure the British will use India for trade or economic reasons but for India to think they can tell the UK to stop free democratic protests by their own citizens in their own naition, is truly as delusional as you can get.

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Even Indians in the UK despise the actions of India in Kashmir.
 
Im talking from a British perspective, no need try to divert it to Pakistan as you usually do.

British Pakistani views do hold a lot of poltical power in the UK and many events regarding the state terrorism in Kahsmir are organised by them and attended by them along with British people of all communites.

Sure the British will use India for trade or economic reasons but for India to think they can tell the UK to stop free democratic protests by their own citizens in their own naition, is truly as delusional as you can get.

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Even Indians in the UK despise the actions of India in Kashmir.

You are talking of the perpective of the Pakistani community of UK. Thats a miniscule minority of UK population.

The british pakistani communitu have had zero influence on UK policy towards India.

The Indian govt aske UK govt to not officially meet the Pak Minister. The UK govt doesnot endorse the decisions of the pakistani community of UK.

What does that photo signify? Lol.

No answers on Pakistani community, its economic condition and its terror activities.
 
You are talking of the perpective of the Pakistani community of UK. Thats a miniscule minority of UK population.

The british pakistani communitu have had zero influence on UK policy towards India.

The Indian govt aske UK govt to not officially meet the Pak Minister. The UK govt doesnot endorse the decisions of the pakistani community of UK.

What does that photo signify? Lol.

No answers on Pakistani community, its economic condition and its terror activities.

You are a funny and sorry individual.

Whatever Pakistani economy is facing that does not change the fact that Indian occupying Army is killing innocent Muslims in Kashmir.

Indian terrorizing forces have killed, are killing and will continue to kill the people of Kashmir. You aren’t kashmiri and you have no right or say in their matters.

Now go on with your what Pakistani think doesn’t matter, as if your narrative matter.
 
You are talking of the perpective of the Pakistani community of UK. Thats a miniscule minority of UK population.

The british pakistani communitu have had zero influence on UK policy towards India.

The Indian govt aske UK govt to not officially meet the Pak Minister. The UK govt doesnot endorse the decisions of the pakistani community of UK.

What does that photo signify? Lol.

No answers on Pakistani community, its economic condition and its terror activities.

You have more poor than sub saharan Africa, around 3 times the population of Pakistan. My taxes help feed them too. Have some respect for the hundreds of millions of poor people in your own nation and start building them some damn toilets.

The British Pakistani community only really care about Kashmir when it comes to India and there have enough influence to raise the awareness and your government has been embarrased by asking for protests to be stopped. Even the US cannot say this to the UK let alone a 3rd world nation whom we give aid do.

The photo shows even those with links to India join protets against Indian terrorism in Kashmir. You can hide the truth to your own population of Bollwyood fanatics but the rest of the world isnt as ignorant.
 
India can not tell the UK what to do, impossible! Having said that such events do not make much difference but it does expose Indian terrorism in the valley. Pak should also speak of Indian terrorism in Baluchistan and Yadav as well so that the world knows about this as well.
 
You are a funny and sorry individual.

Whatever Pakistani economy is facing that does not change the fact that Indian occupying Army is killing innocent Muslims in Kashmir.

Indian terrorizing forces have killed, are killing and will continue to kill the people of Kashmir. You aren’t kashmiri and you have no right or say in their matters.

Now go on with your what Pakistani think doesn’t matter, as if your narrative matter.

The Indian flag flies in Srinagar. And as long as thats the reality, its the narrative of an Indian that will matter on J and K and not that of a Pakistani.
 
You have more poor than sub saharan Africa, around 3 times the population of Pakistan. My taxes help feed them too. Have some respect for the hundreds of millions of poor people in your own nation and start building them some damn toilets.

The British Pakistani community only really care about Kashmir when it comes to India and there have enough influence to raise the awareness and your government has been embarrased by asking for protests to be stopped. Even the US cannot say this to the UK let alone a 3rd world nation whom we give aid do.

The photo shows even those with links to India join protets against Indian terrorism in Kashmir. You can hide the truth to your own population of Bollwyood fanatics but the rest of the world isnt as ignorant.

You belong to one of the poorest communities in UK. Taxes paid by the Indian origin community which is among the more well off goes a long way to help those poor communities in UK.

Help your own community in Uk who are among the poorest in UK. Then help the ones in Pakistan. Then you can lecture Indians. Right now the Pakistani PM is running around the world to get loans. Help him may be.

The British Pakistani community has zero influence on UK policy on India. The Indian govt asked the UK govt to not meet the Pak FM and the UK govt oblidged. Indian economy will surpass the UK GDP this year. As our FM said, UK can keep its peanuts. May be the Pakistani community can request UK to give this aid to Pakistan. IK is really looking for some dollars to shore up pakistani economy.

How did you conclude that those were Indians?

The rest of the world simply ignores the Pakistani whining on kashmir.
 
You belong to one of the poorest communities in UK. Taxes paid by the Indian origin community which is among the more well off goes a long way to help those poor communities in UK.

Help your own community in Uk who are among the poorest in UK. Then help the ones in Pakistan. Then you can lecture Indians. Right now the Pakistani PM is running around the world to get loans. Help him may be.

The British Pakistani community has zero influence on UK policy on India. The Indian govt asked the UK govt to not meet the Pak FM and the UK govt oblidged. Indian economy will surpass the UK GDP this year. As our FM said, UK can keep its peanuts. May be the Pakistani community can request UK to give this aid to Pakistan. IK is really looking for some dollars to shore up pakistani economy.

How did you conclude that those were Indians?

The rest of the world simply ignores the Pakistani whining on kashmir.

Like it ignores Indians crying over 26/11, Hafiz Syed and the rest! Actually Pakistanis are members of parliament in the UK amongst many other prominent positions or are you just pretending!? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Pakistanis

We do help our own people through organisations like Islamic Aid that gives to many poor Indian people as well. I know this as I did some voluntary work for them some years back, we also gave to India that was on top of the begging list when I was there.

IK is not running out to beg but improving relationships with Muslim countries that had soured over the years. He is doing business deals with Arab countries which is infuriating those who wanted him to go running to the IMF. See look at the size of your country compared to the UK or Pakistan before boasting about your economy. I table spoon of sugar can be tasted much more in a small cup then a big mug. As it happens I think the word "mug" is most suitable for you!
 
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You belong to one of the poorest communities in UK. Taxes paid by the Indian origin community which is among the more well off goes a long way to help those poor communities in UK.

I can identify with them but I dont belong to anyone as they dont own me. There are many rich Paksitani here and many poor Indians some who sleep on the streets. British Pakistanis and British Indians pay taxes for All British people. I pay taxes to help feed the poor in your country. Do you pay taxes to help feed the poor in Pakistan?

You keep banging on about poverty when youre own nation has the one highest rate of poor people. I

Help your own community in Uk who are among the poorest in UK. Then help the ones in Pakistan. Then you can lecture Indians. Right now the Pakistani PM is running around the world to get loans. Help him may be.

The British Pakistani community has zero influence on UK policy on India. The Indian govt asked the UK govt to not meet the Pak FM and the UK govt oblidged. Indian economy will surpass the UK GDP this year. As our FM said, UK can keep its peanuts. May be the Pakistani community can request UK to give this aid to Pakistan. IK is really looking for some dollars to shore up pakistani economy.

How did you conclude that those were Indians?

The rest of the world simply ignores the Pakistani whining on kashmir.

Because they are Sikhs of Indian origin who hate Hindu extremists such as Modi and Indian crimes in Kashmir.

The Pak FM wasn't due to meet the UK officials , he came for other matters. So India did not convince anything.

This is the UK, we dont see India as any important nation. A 3rd world nation which is not a member of the UNSC and never will be. Get with reality pal.
 
As I have always said ultimately Kashmir will only be decided on the battlefield. Protesting in the west is a right that all groups have and always will. Obviously this event is greatly annoying the Indian's hence them crying like babies over it:((:(( The UK told them where to take their request!:salute In the UK Sikh's protest against India much more then Pakistanis do.
 
I can identify with them but I dont belong to anyone as they dont own me. There are many rich Paksitani here and many poor Indians some who sleep on the streets. British Pakistanis and British Indians pay taxes for All British people. I pay taxes to help feed the poor in your country. Do you pay taxes to help feed the poor in Pakistan?

You keep banging on about poverty when youre own nation has the one highest rate of poor people. I


Because they are Sikhs of Indian origin who hate Hindu extremists such as Modi and Indian crimes in Kashmir.

Why cant they be Pakistani origin sikhs?

The Pak FM wasn't due to meet the UK officials , he came for other matters. So India did not convince anything.

The article is above. Read it. UK govt will hold no discussions with Pak FM hence doesnot endorse these Kashmir events and will not offend India.
This is the UK, we dont see India as any important nation. A 3rd world nation which is not a member of the UNSC and never will be. Get with reality pal.

You dont decide what UK does. Your views are that of economically backward miniscule minority. How many times in last 5 years the UK PM has visited India? How many times have they visited Pakistan? India is the fastest growing trillion plus economy in the world and going to surpass UK in GDP. We are not some economic nutcase country,where UN sanctioned terrorists are found and whose PM is running around looking for bailout packages.

The median income of Pakistani origin people in UK is among the lowest while those of the Indian origin is among the highest. So there are more poor people in pakistani community than in the Indian community. UK govt gives more aid to Pakistan than to India hence Indian community pays taxes to fund aid to Pakistan. Since the number of Indian taxpayers is far more,the indian origin contribution to taxes and to aid in Pakistan is greater. Did i tell you about the 2005 train bombings?
 
Pakistani view on India doesnot dictate the view of UK. No matter how much you guys try,no one takes pakistani views on India seriously.

Pakistanis are among the lowest earning community in UK.

Btw people originating from which country committed one of the biggest terror attack in UK?


When was the last time a UK PM visited Pakistan?


Worry about Pakistan's image. India doesnot suffer from extreme vetting for Visas.

What we do know for a fact, the UK Govt doesn't care about the concerns of their Indian counterparts but what is the relevance of the Pakistanis' financial circumstances in the UK with Kashmir? The irony I see here is someone from Calcutta is venting out their socio-economic prejudice against British Pakistanis :))

Pakistanis in UK have little influence here like Indians in regards to Kashmir, but lets not forget the mayor of my city and the Home Secretary here are both of Pakistani descent. So you can belittle the Pakistani community as much as you like but like myself, the younger generation are thriving which I'm sure will be more than suffice to result in your discontent and many more sleepless nights raging your bigoted views on PP.
 
They don't understand how democracy works, you can't force people to not protest.

It's not even a protest - MPs hold events in Parliament all the time on various issues. It may be elderly care, Venezuela, Palestine, or Kashmir.

The Government does not control these Parliamentary events.
 
Why cant they be Pakistani origin sikhs?



The article is above. Read it. UK govt will hold no discussions with Pak FM hence doesnot endorse these Kashmir events and will not offend India.


You dont decide what UK does. Your views are that of economically backward miniscule minority. How many times in last 5 years the UK PM has visited India? How many times have they visited Pakistan? India is the fastest growing trillion plus economy in the world and going to surpass UK in GDP. We are not some economic nutcase country,where UN sanctioned terrorists are found and whose PM is running around looking for bailout packages.

The median income of Pakistani origin people in UK is among the lowest while those of the Indian origin is among the highest. So there are more poor people in pakistani community than in the Indian community. UK govt gives more aid to Pakistan than to India hence Indian community pays taxes to fund aid to Pakistan. Since the number of Indian taxpayers is far more,the indian origin contribution to taxes and to aid in Pakistan is greater. Did i tell you about the 2005 train bombings?

Honestly, no one here knows the difference between Indians and Pakistanis, they are generally regarded as one and the same by the British. Do you think they come on PP to pore over stats as to which is which?

Most Brits just think of slums when they think of India, that is why films like Slumdog Millionaire are smash hits.
 
Very strange Indians thought they could dicate to the UK.

No offence to Indians but most of the public here see India is a third world country which takes aid of the UK and those that know of Kashmir see India as a state terrorist.

BCCI mentality ;-)
 
The Indian flag flies in Srinagar. And as long as thats the reality, its the narrative of an Indian that will matter on J and K and not that of a Pakistani.

You aren't Kashmiri and you will never get to live in Kashmir without the desire of the people of Kashmir.

You do not speak for the people of Kashmir, you have no voice among Kahmiri's affair.

India has not in past 70 years and will not be able to dictate the terms in Kashmir for a long long long time without the consent of people of Kashmir and Pakistan.

Probably kill you every day thinking about it.

Again, you aren't Kashmiri, stop speaking for those people, mind your business in your state/province.
 
Bro why dnt u keep this thing b/w UK & India. Is this necessary to bring Pakistan in the talk.

Small ego, trigger mentality, and bigoted believes in support of radicalized extremists religious hindu groups would do that.
 
The Indian flag flies in Srinagar. And as long as thats the reality, its the narrative of an Indian that will matter on J and K and not that of a Pakistani.

I bet that Is what the British thought when they had India.
The will of the Kashmir people won't be defeated.
 
Why cant they be Pakistani origin sikhs?

I've never met a Sikh from Paksitan in the UK, maybe only a handful if they do exist here.



The article is above. Read it. UK govt will hold no discussions with Pak FM hence doesnot endorse these Kashmir events and will not offend India.

Read the article and the UK official response.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...after-indias-protest/articleshow/67813282.cms

There were no plans for the FM to meet any government minister and he came for the Kashmir issue which will be attented by MP's. You're are delusional if you think any official visit by a Pak FM would be cancelled on the request of India.



You dont decide what UK does. Your views are that of economically backward miniscule minority. How many times in last 5 years the UK PM has visited India? How many times have they visited Pakistan? India is the fastest growing trillion plus economy in the world and going to surpass UK in GDP. We are not some economic nutcase country,where UN sanctioned terrorists are found and whose PM is running around looking for bailout packages.

The median income of Pakistani origin people in UK is among the lowest while those of the Indian origin is among the highest. So there are more poor people in pakistani community than in the Indian community. UK govt gives more aid to Pakistan than to India hence Indian community pays taxes to fund aid to Pakistan. Since the number of Indian taxpayers is far more,the indian origin contribution to taxes and to aid in Pakistan is greater. Did i tell you about the 2005 train bombings?

lol. What has the British Pak community got to do with this topic? This forum is set by British Paks but you run here daily. You're a 3rd world nation with hundreds of millions not having toliets yet you have the foolish audacitiy to call out others for their lack of wealth.

Bottom line India cannot dicate to the UK and people here will contiue to highlight the murders, rapes and tortures of a terrorist army in Kashmir. There is nothing you or ModJi can do about it.
 
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[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]

How do you think the white brits view India as a country overall?
 
I've never met a Sikh from Paksitan in the UK, maybe only a handful if they do exist here.





Read the article and the UK official response.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...after-indias-protest/articleshow/67813282.cms

There were no plans for the FM to meet any government minister and he came for the Kashmir issue which will be attented by MP's. You're are delusional if you think any official visit by a Pak FM would be cancelled on the request of India.





lol. What has the British Pak community got to do with this topic? This forum is set by British Paks but you run here daily. You're a 3rd world nation with hundreds of millions not having toliets yet you have the foolish audacitiy to call out others for their lack of wealth.

Bottom line India cannot dicate to the UK and people here will contiue to highlight the murders, rapes and tortures of a terrorist army in Kashmir. There is nothing you or ModJi can do about it.

Exactly it's a bit rich (pun intended) for someone based in Calcutta (according to him) to vent out his socio-economic prejudice of British Pakistanis.

This mentality stems from their still-toxic caste system.
 
You aren't Kashmiri and you will never get to live in Kashmir without the desire of the people of Kashmir.

You do not speak for the people of Kashmir, you have no voice among Kahmiri's affair.

India has not in past 70 years and will not be able to dictate the terms in Kashmir for a long long long time without the consent of people of Kashmir and Pakistan.

Probably kill you every day thinking about it.

Again, you aren't Kashmiri, stop speaking for those people, mind your business in your state/province.


I can take a flight tommorow and go to srinagar and stay there as long as i want. No Pakistani can do that.

As i said, the Indian flag flies in Srinagar. No Pakistani can change that. Indians have decided what happens there for 70 years, there is nothing you can do about that.
 
I've never met a Sikh from Paksitan in the UK, maybe only a handful if they do exist here.





Read the article and the UK official response.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...after-indias-protest/articleshow/67813282.cms

There were no plans for the FM to meet any government minister and he came for the Kashmir issue which will be attented by MP's. You're are delusional if you think any official visit by a Pak FM would be cancelled on the request of India.





lol. What has the British Pak community got to do with this topic? This forum is set by British Paks but you run here daily. You're a 3rd world nation with hundreds of millions not having toliets yet you have the foolish audacitiy to call out others for their lack of wealth.

Bottom line India cannot dicate to the UK and people here will contiue to highlight the murders, rapes and tortures of a terrorist army in Kashmir. There is nothing you or ModJi can do about it.

Bottom line is that your own community is in poverty in a developed nation. Look after them and dont lecture Indians.
 
What we do know for a fact, the UK Govt doesn't care about the concerns of their Indian counterparts but what is the relevance of the Pakistanis' financial circumstances in the UK with Kashmir? The irony I see here is someone from Calcutta is venting out their socio-economic prejudice against British Pakistanis :))

Pakistanis in UK have little influence here like Indians in regards to Kashmir, but lets not forget the mayor of my city and the Home Secretary here are both of Pakistani descent. So you can belittle the Pakistani community as much as you like but like myself, the younger generation are thriving which I'm sure will be more than suffice to result in your discontent and many more sleepless nights raging your bigoted views on PP.

What we do know for a fact is that British govt is not officially entertaining the Pak FM due to India's objections.

I couldnot care less about british pakistanis.But if a british pakistani tries to show off and tries to lecture Indians about poverty, he will be shown the mirror. Sorry if it offends you but my comments were in reply to a poster who has some kind of fake superiority complex.
 
Bottom line is that your own community is in poverty in a developed nation. Look after them and dont lecture Indians.

lol. We are all British, whites, Asians and blacks. We live in a nation which allows us to speak out against any issue we like and will continue in regards to Kashmir.

Btw there is no real poverty in the UK. If you can find a slum as you do in India, I'll leave this forum.
 
lol. We are all British, whites, Asians and blacks. We live in a nation which allows us to speak out against any issue we like and will continue in regards to Kashmir.

Btw there is no real poverty in the UK. If you can find a slum as you do in India, I'll leave this forum.

Poverty is defined by that country's standard. You may not like it but british pakistani median income is among the lowest in UK.

British Pakistanis can say whatever they want. Indian govt deals with UK govt.
 
I can take a flight tommorow and go to srinagar and stay there as long as i want. No Pakistani can do that.

As i said, the Indian flag flies in Srinagar. No Pakistani can change that. Indians have decided what happens there for 70 years, there is nothing you can do about that.

But you won't and that is what all matter, most of the radicalized extremists hindus do not have in them to re-populate Kashmir with radicalized extremists hindus, they would rather fetch for cow transporters in Gujrat and Bangal.

You would rather talk about your new money, like mohalay ki aunty who recently became rich.
 
What we do know for a fact is that British govt is not officially entertaining the Pak FM due to India's objections..

In order to prove this as a FACT, you will first need to provide some evidence that:
a) This was an official visit until India intervened
b) There were plans for British officials to meet Shah Mahmood Qureshi, which were rescinded due to India’s actions

These are facts:
a) You will not find the above evidence
b) You will continue to post lies
 
Enjoy your yearly timepass, hopefully Quereshi has a beautiful tour.
 
Bottom line is that your own community is in poverty in a developed nation. Look after them and dont lecture Indians.
I am a UK citizen of Pakistani origin living in a middle class area in a nice part of the country and enjoying a comfortable lifestyle. My 'community' is the peoples of the United Kingdom. The fact that sections of this community (whether their origins be from continental Europe, Africa, Asia (including the sub-Continent) or anywhere else) is economically deprived is an unfortunate situation and needs to be rectified. However, it's a bit rich for a non-UK citizen, a citizen of a 3rd world country with the largest number of poor in the world, and by his own admission, being based in one of the most deprived regions of this 3rd world country, to be lecturing UK citizens about poverty in the UK.

The 'poverty' levels you refer to in regards to sections of the UK community are in no way comparable to the absolute poverty levels in your own country. In fact the numbers of these unfortunates in your country are over 10 - 15 times the total population of the UK. I suggest you let that sink in, and make efforts to help change their situation, before disparaging communities in other countries that are well off in comparison.
 
Exactly it's a bit rich (pun intended) for someone based in Calcutta (according to him) to vent out his socio-economic prejudice of British Pakistanis.

This mentality stems from their still-toxic caste system.
As if Pakistanis don't have caste system. :yk2
 
I am a UK citizen of Pakistani origin living in a middle class area in a nice part of the country and enjoying a comfortable lifestyle. My 'community' is the peoples of the United Kingdom. The fact that sections of this community (whether their origins be from continental Europe, Africa, Asia (including the sub-Continent) or anywhere else) is economically deprived is an unfortunate situation and needs to be rectified. However, it's a bit rich for a non-UK citizen, a citizen of a 3rd world country with the largest number of poor in the world, and by his own admission, being based in one of the most deprived regions of this 3rd world country, to be lecturing UK citizens about poverty in the UK.

The 'poverty' levels you refer to in regards to sections of the UK community are in no way comparable to the absolute poverty levels in your own country. In fact the numbers of these unfortunates in your country are over 10 - 15 times the total population of the UK. I suggest you let that sink in, and make efforts to help change their situation, before disparaging communities in other countries that are well off in comparison.
LOL. Dude, you are a brown Asian at end of the day, no matter wherever you live in UK. There is reason why there is a slur in your countries name. You remind me of the Trump-supporting Indians up here in 'Murica. Rednecks would never consider them as Americans.
 
You have more poor than sub saharan Africa, around 3 times the population of Pakistan. My taxes help feed them too. Have some respect for the hundreds of millions of poor people in your own nation and start building them some damn toilets.

The British Pakistani community only really care about Kashmir when it comes to India and there have enough influence to raise the awareness and your government has been embarrased by asking for protests to be stopped. Even the US cannot say this to the UK let alone a 3rd world nation whom we give aid do.

The photo shows even those with links to India join protets against Indian terrorism in Kashmir. You can hide the truth to your own population of Bollwyood fanatics but the rest of the world isnt as ignorant.

You should first spend some amount in building toilets in the land of pure first. We both are 3rd world cesspools and hardly better than each other.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1632487/1-something-doesnt-smell-right-open-defecation-leaves-punjab-reeling-reeking/
 
The mayor of London is of Pakistani ethnicity to start with:salute
 
Very strange Indians thought they could dicate to the UK.

No offence to Indians but most of the public here see India is a third world country which takes aid of the UK and those that know of Kashmir see India as a state terrorist.
You must be talking about those Daily Mail subscribers. Well, they have a worse opinion about Muslims in general. Do you support that too?:vk
 
In order to prove this as a FACT, you will first need to provide some evidence that:
a) This was an official visit until India intervened
b) There were plans for British officials to meet Shah Mahmood Qureshi, which were rescinded due to India’s actions

These are facts:
a) You will not find the above evidence
b) You will continue to post lies

There is an article that i posted which says this.
 
You must be talking about those Daily Mail subscribers. Well, they have a worse opinion about Muslims in general. Do you support that too?:vk

Nope, I’m from Scotland and I can tell you that majority of the people would say India is a 3rd world country, mostly due to what we see on TV documentaries, Indians bathing in rivers that are polluted by sewage water, dead corpses, slums, rape, defacting in the streets etc.

We’ve grown up to hearing abuse from white peoples which relates to the above problems in India which I mentioned, because we’re brown too - so that shows you the views they hold in regards to India.
 
Very strange Indians thought they could dicate to the UK.

No offence to Indians but most of the public here see India is a third world country which takes aid of the UK and those that know of Kashmir see India as a state terrorist.

That's true. British public and Europe in general know their terrorists quite well.
 
Nope, I’m from Scotland and I can tell you that majority of the people would say India is a 3rd world country, mostly due to what we see on TV documentaries, Indians bathing in rivers that are polluted by sewage water, dead corpses, slums, rape, defacting in the streets etc.

We’ve grown up to hearing abuse from white peoples which relates to the above problems in India which I mentioned, because we’re brown too - so that shows you the views they hold in regards to India.
See, I don't deny Westerners view India as third world country . But then they view Muslims in worse contempt.I live in America and I have to wear a cross pendant so that the rednecks here don't think I am 'Airab'. So, if you take their view on Indians as Gospel then you have to do the same for their views on Muslims also.:abbas
 
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See, I don't deny Westerners view India as third world country . But then they view Muslims in worse contempt.I live in America and I have to wear a cross pendant so that the rednecks here don't think I am 'Airab'. So, if you take their view on Indians as Gospel then you have to do the same for their views on Muslims also.:abbas

Americans voted trump so their views don’t hold any importance really.
 
There is an article that i posted which says this.

The article is to keep gullible Indians happy at Modi governments alleged influence. The same crowd that believe in sir jee kal strikes will also lap this up.
The only fact in that article is the quote from the UK Foreign Office spokesman who clearly undermines your stance.
Not surprised that your understanding of the article is so poor.
 
Pakistani view on India doesnot dictate the view of UK. No matter how much you guys try,no one takes pakistani views on India seriously.

Pakistanis are among the lowest earning community in UK.

Btw people originating from which country committed one of the biggest terror attack in UK?


When was the last time a UK PM visited Pakistan?


Worry about Pakistan's image. India doesnot suffer from extreme vetting for Visas.

That guy was of Indian origin. Just like Indians claim that Zayn Malik is of Indian heritage, I guess same goes for that person as well because they were some country before the British divided, right?
 
LOL. Dude, you are a brown Asian at end of the day, no matter wherever you live in UK. There is reason why there is a slur in your countries name. You remind me of the Trump-supporting Indians up here in 'Murica. Rednecks would never consider them as Americans.
What a completely moronic response. Regardless of my skin colour or ethnic origins, I am nevertheless a UK citizen and thus the UK is 'my country'. And last time I looked, there was no slur attached to the name 'The United Kingdom', certainly not in comparison to 'India'
 
See, I don't deny Westerners view India as third world country . But then they view Muslims in worse contempt.I live in America and I have to wear a cross pendant so that the rednecks here don't think I am 'Airab'. So, if you take their view on Indians as Gospel then you have to do the same for their views on Muslims also.:abbas

and some people were propigating that Indians do better abroad..
 
See, I don't deny Westerners view India as third world country . But then they view Muslims in worse contempt.I live in America and I have to wear a cross pendant so that the rednecks here don't think I am 'Airab'.
A Hindu going around wearing a cross pendant so that he's not thought of as being a Hindu/ Indian. That says it all! :))

As for not being seen to be an Arab because he's wearing a cross, he's obviously ignorant of the fact that there are millions of Christian Arabs in the Middle East and North Africa
 
You must be talking about those Daily Mail subscribers. Well, they have a worse opinion about Muslims in general. Do you support that too?:vk

British Pakistanis know all about Daily Mail subscribers, but those who were born here don't really give a damn what those fossils think. Their time is over, even their own kids are embarrassed by their views. Your thinking would be more appropriate for immigrants I think, and that is wholly understandable. We actual Brits just don't think like this.
 
The article is to keep gullible Indians happy at Modi governments alleged influence. The same crowd that believe in sir jee kal strikes will also lap this up.
The only fact in that article is the quote from the UK Foreign Office spokesman who clearly undermines your stance.
Not surprised that your understanding of the article is so poor.


Just like Pakistani media kept saying that Pakistan is winning the war, 2 days before fall of Dhaka.

Or may be like the Pakistani govt kept denying Kargil.

The fun is that if Pakistan accepts this then its a serious loss of face and they will be under pressure to retaliate againist a better equipped larger army.

If they dont accept it they cant get international support againist India.

Masterstroke from Modi.
 
Just like Pakistani media kept saying that Pakistan is winning the war, 2 days before fall of Dhaka.

Or may be like the Pakistani govt kept denying Kargil.

The fun is that if Pakistan accepts this then its a serious loss of face and they will be under pressure to retaliate againist a better equipped larger army.

If they dont accept it they cant get international support againist India.

Masterstroke from Modi.

lol

you are the prime example of delusional.

Whoever win the next election in India will come to table to talk to Pakistan.

Modi have lost in Afghanistan, lost in Balouchistan, the only success he had was to ban Pakistani cricket players from playing cricket in India and Pakistani artist from performing in India.

Hindutava is a serious disease where a supporters of right wing hard line extremists hindu would believe everything and anything as long as illusion of themselves make them look tough.

Oh yeah! better equipped Army that can't afford to feed it's soldiers.

Laughable.
 
Just like Pakistani media kept saying that Pakistan is winning the war, 2 days before fall of Dhaka.

Or may be like the Pakistani govt kept denying Kargil.

The fun is that if Pakistan accepts this then its a serious loss of face and they will be under pressure to retaliate againist a better equipped larger army.

If they dont accept it they cant get international support againist India.

Masterstroke from Modi.

Pakistani media or Indian media are not really Britain's concern, for you guys there might be some sort of grand value in arguing these topics to death, as far as Britain is concerned we will always support the people of this country to have their say in a peaceful and organised manner as long as they are not wilfully supporting mass murderers.
 
lol

you are the prime example of delusional.

Whoever win the next election in India will come to table to talk to Pakistan.

Modi have lost in Afghanistan, lost in Balouchistan, the only success he had was to ban Pakistani cricket players from playing cricket in India and Pakistani artist from performing in India.

Hindutava is a serious disease where a supporters of right wing hard line extremists hindu would believe everything and anything as long as illusion of themselves make them look tough.

Oh yeah! better equipped Army that can't afford to feed it's soldiers.

Laughable.

India doesnot need Pakistan in any way. Just like BCCI doesnot need PCB.

There is nothing that Pakistan can do.

Pakistan army doesnot even take its dead.Shameful.
 
That's true. British public and Europe in general know their terrorists quite well.

You must be talking about those Daily Mail subscribers. Well, they have a worse opinion about Muslims in general. Do you support that too?:vk

Maybe they do but they are not asking for the UK to throw away it's democracy.

India made a foolish request to the UK and were told 'No'. My point was India cannot request such a thing as it's no world superpower. The same would go for many other nations inc Pakistan but they are not as deluded as the Indians to ask for such a thing.
 
India doesnot need Pakistan in any way. Just like BCCI doesnot need PCB.

There is nothing that Pakistan can do.

Pakistan army doesnot even take its dead.Shameful.


LOL, This guy.

you come up with some of the ridiculous comments. lol

Seriously what would you do when Pakistan and India will sit down to have inevitable talks in near future because that is the only option India has, the only, singular, option.

Do not be so arrogant, India still is a third world country, which still has some of the largest slums and poor people, you have a long way to go to be pretentious and be as arrogant as a white man during Colonial times.

India has lost Afghanistan to subside Pakistan's influence, unable to finish the job in Baluchistan, unable to sideline Pakistan on any international forum or country, unable to stop up rise in Kashmir.

Other than selectively stopping only Indian cricket team from playing cricket against Pakistan and in India, and preventing Pakistani artist to visit India, Modi has accomplished nothing against Pakistan, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Haven't met a single supporter of radicalized extremists hindu groups, such as RSS and BJP party who wan't border line or complete delusional and ignorant.
 
LOL, This guy.

you come up with some of the ridiculous comments. lol

Seriously what would you do when Pakistan and India will sit down to have inevitable talks in near future because that is the only option India has, the only, singular, option.

Do not be so arrogant, India still is a third world country, which still has some of the largest slums and poor people, you have a long way to go to be pretentious and be as arrogant as a white man during Colonial times.

India has lost Afghanistan to subside Pakistan's influence, unable to finish the job in Baluchistan, unable to sideline Pakistan on any international forum or country, unable to stop up rise in Kashmir.

Other than selectively stopping only Indian cricket team from playing cricket against Pakistan and in India, and preventing Pakistani artist to visit India, Modi has accomplished nothing against Pakistan, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Haven't met a single supporter of radicalized extremists hindu groups, such as RSS and BJP party who wan't border line or complete delusional and ignorant.


Why will we sit with Pakistan? For what? To get what?

India doesnot need Pakistan for anything. Thats the bottomline. Engagement will happen on India's terms.

What will Pakistan offer to get India at the talks table? Anything?

Pakistan cant take Kashmir from India. Thats a fact.

For any activity in Kashmir,India will simply raise the cost of engagement at the LoC for a already struggling Pakistan economy.

We are already building dams on the rivers and Pakistan cant stop that.

Terror attacks in India are down since India downgraded relations with Pakistan and has been largely limited to Kashmir since 2014.

India is already the fastest trillion dollar economy in the world. We just have no reason to engage with Pakistan.
 
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Why will we sit with Pakistan? For what? To get what?

India doesnot need Pakistan for anything. Thats the bottomline. Engagement will happen on India's terms.

What will Pakistan offer to get India at the talks table? Anything?

Pakistan cant take Kashmir from India. Thats a fact.

For any activity in Kashmir,India will simply raise the cost of engagement at the LoC for a already struggling Pakistan economy.

We are already building dams on the rivers and Pakistan cant stop that.

Terror attacks in India are down since India downgraded relations with Pakistan and has been largely limited to Kashmir since 2014.

India is already the fastest trillion dollar economy in the world. We just have no reason to engage with Pakistan.

Pakistan occupy 'Azad Kashmir' which belongs to India according to you. Why not take it back if you're so strong?
 
Must say. cricketjoshila bhai's posts inflate my chest with pride and patriotism and i get goosebumps. I wonder what effect they must be having on the traitors and enemies.
 
Pakistan occupy 'Azad Kashmir' which belongs to India according to you. Why not take it back if you're so strong?

Why doesnot China try to forcibly take Taiwan? Why isnt China taking Sikkim from India? There are scores of border and territorial disputes around the world, almost everyone maintains status quo as that keeps things normal and maintains international agreements. Those who hopelessly try to use war and break international laws are seen going around the world asking for bailouts
 
Why doesnot China try to forcibly take Taiwan? Why isnt China taking Sikkim from India? There are scores of border and territorial disputes around the world, almost everyone maintains status quo as that keeps things normal and maintains international agreements. Those who hopelessly try to use war and break international laws are seen going around the world asking for bailouts

It's not a border dispute according to you. Kashmir belongs to India and Pakistan have occupied a very large part for decades now. So I guess India is ok with another nation occupying their land or are not strong enough to do anything about it.
 
Must say. cricketjoshila bhai's posts inflate my chest with pride and patriotism and i get goosebumps. I wonder what effect they must be having on the traitors and enemies.

He is an enemy that one can respect. A true son of the soil.:mush
 
It's not a border dispute according to you. Kashmir belongs to India and Pakistan have occupied a very large part for decades now. So I guess India is ok with another nation occupying their land or are not strong enough to do anything about it.

Its a border and territorial dispute. Like Taiwan or Sikkim is for China. Its not going to war, is it?

India signed international agreements and is adhering by them.

As i said those who go to war breaking international agreements are seen going around the world asking for funds. Those who dont have high economic growth rates,peace and progress.
 
Why will we sit with Pakistan? For what? To get what?

India doesnot need Pakistan for anything. Thats the bottomline. Engagement will happen on India's terms.

What will Pakistan offer to get India at the talks table? Anything?

Pakistan cant take Kashmir from India. Thats a fact.

For any activity in Kashmir,India will simply raise the cost of engagement at the LoC for a already struggling Pakistan economy.

We are already building dams on the rivers and Pakistan cant stop that.

Terror attacks in India are down since India downgraded relations with Pakistan and has been largely limited to Kashmir since 2014.

India is already the fastest trillion dollar economy in the world. We just have no reason to engage with Pakistan.

The only terms that India will dictate is when to decide to engage in inevitable talks which will happen after election, other than that, India has no leverage over Pakistan.

Terror attacks are down because Pakistan is peaceful, Pakistan has neutralize terror groups in Afghanistan, not because India has downgraded relationships with Pakistan.

Try to support terrorist against Pakistan in Afghanistan and you'll see how vulnerable India has been and will always be.

Stop trying to fool people outside of India, your skewed narrative only works in India :)
 
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The only terms that India will dictate is when to decide to engage in inevitable talks which will happen after election, other than that, India has no leverage over Pakistan.

Terror attacks are down because Pakistan is peaceful, Pakistan has neutralize terror groups in Afghanistan, not because India has downgraded relationships with Pakistan.

Try to support terrorist against Pakistan in Afghanistan and you'll see how vulnerable India has been and will always be.

Stop trying to fool people outside of India, your skewed narrative only works in India :)

Again. No answer to why will India want to talk to Pakistan? What has Pakistan got to offer?Anything?

Who told you peace talks will happen after election? Whoever will be elected is more likely to commit suicide than have peace talks with Pakistan and get a hammering in the media and from the opposition.

Take these threats elsewhere. Its pakistan that is so unsafe and vulnerable that cricket teams regularly refuse to go there.Economy is a mess and is in need of bailouts and rating agencies are downgrading Pakistan.

Terror attacks are down becauss there is no complacency due to some stupid peace talks. Pakistani state is receiving retaliation for its action.

India is doing very well right now and has no need to change the status quo vis a vis Pakistan.

Why should any Indian govt care about what people outside India think? They are elected by people inside India.
 
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What we do know for a fact, the UK Govt doesn't care about the concerns of their Indian counterparts but what is the relevance of the Pakistanis' financial circumstances in the UK with Kashmir? The irony I see here is someone from Calcutta is venting out their socio-economic prejudice against British Pakistanis :))

Pakistanis in UK have little influence here like Indians in regards to Kashmir, but lets not forget the mayor of my city and the Home Secretary here are both of Pakistani descent. So you can belittle the Pakistani community as much as you like but like myself, the younger generation are thriving which I'm sure will be more than suffice to result in your discontent and many more sleepless nights raging your bigoted views on PP.

Your last paragraph bought a smile to my face......Indians do not like being shown the mirror re their poverty etcand will always deflect yeah but this or that....but the reality the booming economy is great but your wealth isn't shared when does India still have huge numbers in poverty? Pakistan as a nation is not a comparison as they don't portray themselves as anything they are not.
 

Thanks for sharing this. More than happy to stand corrected on this if there are valid sources. Consider this situation though - your country's MPs are thrusting money into India's coffers even though India has officially said they do not want British tax payer money. So, who is at fault here?

The accurate reaction for a British tax payer in this context would be anger towards your politicians and NOT misplaced condescension towards other Indians claiming "my tax money helps your country"
1. The amount is insignificant in large scheme of things
2. The recipient does not care for your money
3. Your MPs are still giving away YOUR money maybe because they want to curry favors (pun not intended) from the recipient country.

It is completely justified if you have anger towards your own politicians but interestingly you are only acting high and mighty towards Indians in this forum. Newflash buddy - Indians do not seem to want UK taxpayer money. Ask your politicians to use it to speed up Brexit or whatever other crazy plans they seem to concoct.
 
Thanks for sharing this. More than happy to stand corrected on this if there are valid sources. Consider this situation though - your country's MPs are thrusting money into India's coffers even though India has officially said they do not want British tax payer money. So, who is at fault here?

The accurate reaction for a British tax payer in this context would be anger towards your politicians and NOT misplaced condescension towards other Indians claiming "my tax money helps your country"
1. The amount is insignificant in large scheme of things
2. The recipient does not care for your money
3. Your MPs are still giving away YOUR money maybe because they want to curry favors (pun not intended) from the recipient country.

It is completely justified if you have anger towards your own politicians but interestingly you are only acting high and mighty towards Indians in this forum. Newflash buddy - Indians do not seem to want UK taxpayer money. Ask your politicians to use it to speed up Brexit or whatever other crazy plans they seem to concoct.

Plenty of Indians who work in charities have said they want the aid. Of course the odd politcian will say no we dont , esp as they think India is some sort of great economic superpower but the reality is it has hundreds of millions in deep poverty. If no Indians wanted it , the UK wont give it.

I was replying to an Indian poster who bought up the economic status of British Pak and I informed him their taxes contribute to Indian aid not the other way round.
 
Obama was an American President. But black people are still treated like dirt here and suffer racial discrimination.

America is a far bigger country then the UK. Black people in general suffer more racism then other people everywhere. I always look at the positives more then the negatives.
 
Plenty of Indians who work in charities have said they want the aid. Of course the odd politcian will say no we dont , esp as they think India is some sort of great economic superpower but the reality is it has hundreds of millions in deep poverty. If no Indians wanted it , the UK wont give it.

I was replying to an Indian poster who bought up the economic status of British Pak and I informed him their taxes contribute to Indian aid not the other way round.

Of course, nobody can deny that all South Asian countries and China have high poverty levels. I spent 2 years in India and I LOL on the inside when a Pakistani/Indian/Chinese tells me only about how much their GDP can grow. I get it that some private charities in India want UK aid. But I still think it is a big stretch to say British Pakistani tax money is funding Indian aid. It is only a super tiny 98M pounds, going to private entities with lord-knows-what vested UK govt interests, and when Indian govt's official stance is no to UK aid.

Appropriate statement from British Pakistanis should be - A very small fraction of UK tax payer money is going to private charities in India against the wishes of the Indian government.
 
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