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India Government refuses to give permission for any bilateral series between India and Pakistan

90MPH said:
I don't care. No Pak fan I knows gives a toss about playing India in a bilateral series anymore.

We shouldn't play them either in these ICC tournaments either where Indian hypocrisy gets exposed as they need the massive television money.

There should be complete ban with them, end of.
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Not just money in these ICC tournament...they need those 2 points which are literally guaranteed as well to advance further in tournament, Thats why they play. Hypocrisy aint it ? Not that they win these games fairly ,they just buy it well I assume.
 
Zak_Fan said:
You can keep crying on your home website, and you surely will find many who agree with you. But outside of your borders or forums, there are no takers for your BS.
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If you ask a criminal, whom they support? Simple answer another criminal.
 
Meanwhile, a PCB Release:

The delegations of the BCCI and PCB met in Dubai today and shared their stated positions. The meeting was held in a cordial atmosphere and its outcome will be shared with the members of their respective boards.”
 
Shafi said:
Yes that's why India only played with mighty Bangladesh 1 test in last 10 years
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They weren't a worthy opponent then, but India still toured Bangladesh every now and then. What PCB are doing on the other hand is something totally different. You are blackmailing them to tour a dangerous country as if Bangladeshi lives don't matter.

Personally, I am glad that PCB is getting what it deserves.
 
mp812rediff said:
Not just money in these ICC tournament...they need those 2 points which are literally guaranteed as well to advance further in tournament, Thats why they play. Hypocrisy aint it ? Not that they win these games fairly ,they just buy it well I assume.
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nothing new in this, whenever PAK wins, the match is genuine else its a fix.
 
mp812rediff said:
Answer: Cant let go of guaranteed 2 points ICC in tournament
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Why should they let go of those points, when they know they will beat Pakistan easily. India needs to take revenge for all the innocent Indian solders Pakistan have killed and sponsoring Terrorism in the world.
 
Zak_Fan said:
They weren't a worthy opponent then, but India still toured Bangladesh every now and then. What PCB are doing on the other hand is something totally different. You are blackmailing them to tour a dangerous country as if Bangladeshi lives don't matter.

Personally, I am glad that PCB is getting what it deserves.
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And who were behind Pakistan's Isolation in cricket? You can support as much as you want in favor of BCCI or Indian government but truth can never be changed if you go through real news.
Otherwise another lying news like "Saddam had mass .........".
PCB should take a stern action against India back then but we have got ***** in our administration.

Bangladesh was not worth opponent back then. Really? India was lucky to win the first test against inexperience team.
India was also two-faced with Bangladesh. There was nothing wrong with Taskin and Sunny. But everybody know why they called for Illegal bowling actions.
At least we don't go so low!!!!!
 
Gaur Sahab said:
You're way too much delusional if you call your ex army chief corrupt. As I said, don't know much about PAK politics but majority of PAK likes Raheel Sharif and you don't like a corrupt person no matter where you live.
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Are you talking about high army officials? Or general people or high class people
 
Shafi said:
And who were behind Pakistan's Isolation in cricket? You can support as much as you want in favor of BCCI or Indian government but truth can never be changed if you go through real news.
Otherwise another lying news like "Saddam had mass .........".
PCB should take a stern action against India back then but we have got ***** in our administration.

Bangladesh was not worth opponent back then. Really? India was lucky to win the first test against inexperience team.
India was also two-faced with Bangladesh. There was nothing wrong with Taskin and Sunny. But everybody know why they called for Illegal bowling actions.
At least we don't go so low!!!!!
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conspiracy theories is your last resort, desperate attempt really.
 
So will Pakistan get ICC ranking points for incomplete series? Or will ICC just ignore that because it's Pakistan and they hate us?
 
World tournaments and bi-laterals are different, and treating those two as same is pretty stupid.
 
Zak_Fan said:
Why do you want awaam to suffer over a silly sport?
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funny you.
silly sport ? then why GoI have so much of problem to play against pakistan who is facing so much of problems already who need India series to boost their financial situation.
why not play this silly sport ?
why Goi making sucha deal for silly sport.
indo pak is fighting at border since pak came to existence.then what happened all of a sudden over a silly sport?
this egoistic attitude will just give more opportunities to the one who wants feuds and fights across the border.
why theres a timely attack whenever there seems to be some normalcy?
goi should do their duties and let sport be a sport .
we love our silly sport .
 
Pakistan has pushed themselves to corner.

India won't play against them.

Relation with Bangladesh cricket board also not warm,rather it has gone into cold storage..Tour of Pakistan to Bangladesh already has been cancelled due to an unfair demand from PCB.

PCB now has only one option of looking forward to Srilanka and Afghanistan in Asia.
 
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Guys keep it good natured and we will be fine.
 
Wasn't expecting anything else. GOI don't seem interested in India playing Pakistan, so I think PCB should give up on this for a while. We have survived without playing India so far. Should try to make up with BCB and try to get a series arranged with them.
 
Oh Don't think India will ever play Pakistan to tell you truth. BJP will always make issue how playing Pakistan is bad bad.
 
Balthazar said:
World tournaments and bi-laterals are different, and treating those two as same is pretty stupid.
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Yes of course.

Why don't you just say pick and choose.

When it's convenient you play Pakistan in a "tournament". But when it comes to bilaterals you suddenly remember your soldiers stationed at the border.

How convenient. No one outside of India will fall for this BS line.
 
90MPH said:
Yes of course.

Why don't you just say pick and choose.

When it's convenient you play Pakistan in a "tournament". But when it comes to bilaterals you suddenly remember your soldiers stationed at the border.

How convenient. No one outside of India will fall for this BS line.
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This inconsistency will matter in ICC court.
 
What I don't understand is who benefits from this ?? I mean I know they are not playing against us to deprive us from earning and stuff but is the boycott just so that we can't avail a privilege of a bilateral series or this boycott actually benefits India financially / politically / regionally ??

I mean I don't know who is running India at the moment but if the reason is what I think it is then I would go on a limb and say that such stupidity actually makes Nawaz look like an intellectually gifted leader :facepalm: and anyone with a shred of brain knows where NS stands :))

Question to Indians ----- What gives yar ?? I mean is this what you guys really want ?? Jeez.......
 
90MPH said:
Yes of course.

Why don't you just say pick and choose.

When it's convenient you play Pakistan in a "tournament". But when it comes to bilaterals you suddenly remember your soldiers stationed at the border.

How convenient. No one outside of India will fall for this BS line.
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Even if we win against Pakistan in a Cricket match, its irrelevant as for soldier's lives are concerned. There are bigger things to worry about between these two countries than play Cricket.
 
The Namak ****** and Ehsann Faramoshi of Pakistani's is sickening given that they are cowardly refusing to support the PCB against the BCCI on a matter of principle and national interest.
 
It is not end of the world. Beside it is good that happened. Now is the time for PCB to get wake up call. Pakistan cricket was powerhouse in 90s without India, and even without home, Pakistan cricket is still doing reasonable comparatively. Zimbabwe and West Indies cannot fetch the attractive sponsors for their home series at their own homes. Time to isolate BCCI and focus on other boards since the situation has changed and for better.

Beside it is hard to enjoy Pakistan-India after what is happening to Indian Muslims in India.
 
USHK said:
It is not end of the world. Beside it is good that happened. Now is the time for PCB to get wake up call. Pakistan cricket was powerhouse in 90s without India, and even without home, Pakistan cricket is still doing reasonable comparatively. Zimbabwe and West Indies cannot fetch the attractive sponsors for their home series at their own homes. Time to isolate BCCI and focus on other boards since the situation has changed and for better.

Beside it is hard to enjoy Pakistan-India after what is happening to Indian Muslims in India.
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India is free to not play us if they don't want too, their loss because they are losing out on the opportunity to improve on the win-loss record.

But they need to pay up for the blatant violation of the billateral series, contracts in the past up to the tune of $70 million dollars.
 
Savak said:
India is free to not play us if they don't want too, their loss because they are losing out on the opportunity to improve on the win-loss record.

But they need to pay up for the blatant violation of the billateral series, contracts in the past up to the tune of $70 million dollars.
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No, they don't have. They made it clear beforehand. It is not the first time BCCI used Indian government as cover to avoid playing Pakistan. Yet PCB has been constantly putting its blind faith on BCCI and the agreement even though the loophole was there all along and the same loophole was used earlier too.

It reminds me of George Bush's phrase;

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

For PCB, it is more than three times already. So you can imagine that we are way past facepalm.
 
Sports and politics should not be mixed.

Nationalism has no place in a game of cricket or any other sport for that matter.

I know it has happened in the past (Moscow Olympics etc.,) but if 50 years down the line our growth has just stunted at the same level, then it is shameful.

Broadly speaking the reasons given by Indian government seem farcical (state sponsored terrorism) when they are willing to bend the rules in ICC tournaments (where somehow state sponsored terrorism doesn't matter anymore for a day).

The real reason is making sure Pakistan avoid a windfall of dollars by bilateral series. (imo which is fair enough decision if two nations are enemies).

However, sometimes you have to look at the broader picture.

And for me a sportsman is bigger than political gimmicks done by countries for social isolation.

Pakistan is not going to progress just because India played a bilateral series with Pakistan nor will that cash change anything in Pakistan.

But for millions of people of two countries, it brings joy and happiness.

I've got Indian friends and vice versa and it's really sad that top echelons of power are hell bent on ruining and friendly relations between the countries.

I know this post will hurt most Indian patriotic fans but I call it as I see it.

There is no need to isolate a country on sport unless you are cruel to the extent you want to destroy its existence (not saying it will ever happen but that's what you want).
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Sports and politics should not be mixed.

Nationalism has no place in a game of cricket or any other sport for that matter.

I know it has happened in the past (Moscow Olympics etc.,) but if 50 years down the line our growth has just stunted at the same level, then it is shameful.

Broadly speaking the reasons given by Indian government seem farcical (state sponsored terrorism) when they are willing to bend the rules in ICC tournaments (where somehow state sponsored terrorism doesn't matter anymore for a day).

The real reason is making sure Pakistan avoid a windfall of dollars by bilateral series. (imo which is fair enough decision if two nations are enemies).

However, sometimes you have to look at the broader picture.

And for me a sportsman is bigger than political gimmicks done by countries for social isolation.

Pakistan is not going to progress just because India played a bilateral series with Pakistan nor will that cash change anything in Pakistan.

But for millions of people of two countries, it brings joy and happiness.

I've got Indian friends and vice versa and it's really sad that top echelons of power are hell bent on ruining and friendly relations between the countries.

I know this post will hurt most Indian patriotic fans but I call it as I see it.

There is no need to isolate a country on sport unless you are cruel to the extent you want to destroy its existence (not saying it will ever happen but that's what you want).
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Its petulance. If Pakistan had done this then we would have been called out for it and punished in some way.

Pakistan should never have gone to India for Aane Do series but as that was organised by BCCI then thats another piece of evidence to be used in court. BCCI stance is inconsistent and they lose this case in court.
 
Savak said:
India is free to not play us if they don't want too, their loss because they are losing out on the opportunity to improve on the win-loss record.
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News flash .... nobody cares about bi-lateral ODI's anymore due to the amount of cricket played these days. They have no context and quite often top players are rested. Its only Pakistani fans - who have nothing else to brag about when it comes to cricket rivalry with India - think that bilaterals are the real deal.

But they need to pay up for the blatant violation of the billateral series, contracts in the past up to the tune of $70 million dollars.
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Have you found the piece of legal paper totherwise known as a "Binding agreement" hat was signed by BCCI which guarantees a series with Pak ?
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
What I don't understand is who benefits from this ?? I mean I know they are not playing against us to deprive us from earning and stuff but is the boycott just so that we can't avail a privilege of a bilateral series or this boycott actually benefits India financially / politically / regionally ??

I mean I don't know who is running India at the moment but if the reason is what I think it is then I would go on a limb and say that such stupidity actually makes Nawaz look like an intellectually gifted leader :facepalm: and anyone with a shred of brain knows where NS stands :))

Question to Indians ----- What gives yar ?? I mean is this what you guys really want ?? Jeez.......
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since any answers will attract moderation .... I suggest you lease open a thread on timepass or bump any old one on this matter and I will explain.
 
BEIJING: India cannot have a bilateral cricket series with Pakistan as it has crossed the "Lakshmana Rekha" by sponsoring terrorism in the country, Sports Minister Vijay Goel said today.

"For everything there is a Lakshmana Rekha,"Mr Goel, who is leading a 200-member Indian youth delegation to China, told the media.

"But when the line is crossed then a message has to be given. This (boycott) is a message," he said defending the policy not to have bilateral cricket series with Pakistan.

"We have clearly stated terrorism and sports cannot go side-by-side. As long as Pakistan doesn't stop cross border terror and (instigating) trouble in Kashmir..then there is no chance for bilateral series and also the national mood doesn't support it," Mr Goel said.

He declined to comment on the letter written by Ramachandra Guha, one of the four members of Supreme Court appointed Committee of Administrators (CoA), to implement the recommendations of the Justice R M Lodha panel to reform the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI).

Mr Goel said cricket is managed by the BCCI as well as the apex court and that he would not like comment on the cricket related issues.

He, however, referred to his ministry's proposal to have a sports code in India which should include cricket too.

He outlined numerous programmes initiated by his ministry to improve sports on all fronts by expanding the sports infrastructure.

It included a new App through which children above the age of eight years can highlight their talents in sports for his ministry to initiate follow up action.

The Indian delegation is in China as part of an annual exchange programme.

Both countries have been conducting youth exchanges since 2006. Last year a Chinese delegation visited India.

The last bilateral series between India and Pakistan was played in 2012-13.

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/no-b...rossed-lakshman-rekha-says-vijay-goel-1710502
 
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