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India grants visas to Pakistan team for World Junior Squash Championship [Update #109]

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ISLAMABAD: After refusal of Indian visas for the Pakistani players, Pakistan Squash Federation (PSF) has approached the world squash bodies to look into the matter and ensure participation of Pakistan players in the World Junior Championship 2018 or cancel this event as India is doing injustice to Pakistan who are the defending champions.

World Junior Squash Individual & Team Championship is scheduled to be played in Chennai, India from July 18-23. Pakistan squash contingent comprising six players and three officials were sure to participate in the event for which rigorous training is in progress since the past few months, but a few days ago they were abruptly denied the Indian visas.

Promising juniors Abbas Zaib, Haris Qasim, Ozhair Rasheed, Farhan Hashmi, Aziz Shoukat and Asadullah were nominated by PSF to participate in the event.

Pakistan is the defending champions as in 2016 the Pakistani Juniors won the championship after defeating the strong Egyptian team 2-1 in Poland.

Speaking to Dawn, Secretary PSF Tahir Sultan said that it is strange and deplorable that India has refused visas to the defending champions.

“PSF has requested the WSF to ensure participation of Pakistani players or cancel the event. “How strange is this..India wants to hold championship without major stake holders — the defending champions. This is something which is highly against the spirit of sports,” he said and added that there should be no politics in sports.

It is relevant to note here that last year too, Indian High Commission refused to grant visas to four-member Pakistani squash team, thus depriving them of participation at the Asian Senior Individual Championship.

The World Junior Squash Championships are conducted by World Squash Federation (WSF) for players aged 19 and below.

“This [refusal of visas] is totally against the ethics of sports. We believe that sportsmen help in strengthening relations amongst nations,” read a PSF statement.

It said that it was the requirement of Indian organizers that Pakistan should apply for visa early so that processing could be done in time. Therefore, PSF had applied for Indian visa well in advance (in April ) although the visa processing time for India as per the official website of High Commission of India is 35 days. Timely intimation of visa processing was also forwarded to WSF, ASF and organizers so that required assistance could be ensured.

“On 20th June, 2018 High Commission of India in Islamabad has returned all passports of Pakistan contingent and refused visas to our contingent.” “Passports were returned by Indian High Commission stating that they are not in a position to issue visas to Pakistan contingent and no substantial reason was mentioned,” the statement said. “The PSF has always ensured that every foreign player, wishing to participate in squash events, must be given preference in visa process. Similarly, PSF has always helped Indian players also, in getting the visas like Miss Sachika Ingale and her mother who were not only given preference in visa process but were always given VIP treatment during their stay in Pakistan.”

https://www.dawn.com/news/1416045/pakistan-approach-wsf-to-cancel-event-after-indias-visa-refusal
 
I wonder why this happened. They should be allowed. Did they contact the MEA?
 
They denied visas for our junior hockey team as well which was going to participate in Junior hockey world cup in India. There is nothing surprising here tbh. I mean what do we expect from them. India knows that they can get away with keeping Pakistan out of world tournaments because Pakistan has an Indian appeasing government in place who, as expected, did not do anything when this incident happened.

Only losers in this are our junior players who miss the most important tournaments of their careers.
 
So the Pakistan team can travel to India for T20 world cups etc but the junior squash team, the defending world champions, are refused visa's from a world tournament..Wow, I think the ICC better look at this as there's still time to change venus for the tournaments scheduled to be held in India
 
Disgusting tactical game play by the government of India . This will never happen once PTI gets in. I am not at all surprised though and expect nothing less. Pakistani government is too weak to do anything about it and I blame them for this.
 
They denied visas for our junior hockey team as well which was going to participate in Junior hockey world cup in India. There is nothing surprising here tbh. I mean what do we expect from them. India knows that they can get away with keeping Pakistan out of world tournaments because Pakistan has an Indian appeasing government in place who, as expected, did not do anything when this incident happened.

Only losers in this are our junior players who miss the most important tournaments of their careers.

Its deliberate to deprive our players of game time and experience. Its part of their petty pathetic small minded racist tactics!! Racists..but the sporting world wont say anything..becasue we are powerless..inshallah this will change soon though!! I hope we sue them..
 
This is actually quite petty and kameena pan. Waiting to see the likes of [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] justify this as well.
 
Disgusting tactical game play by the government of India . This will never happen once PTI gets in. I am not at all surprised though and expect nothing less. Pakistani government is too weak to do anything about it and I blame them for this.

Please explain.
 
Please explain.

I cannot say that this will never happen under PTI government but usually India softens its approach towards Pakistan when we have a government in power who has a strong stance regarding India.
 
Its deliberate to deprive our players of game time and experience. Its part of their petty pathetic small minded racist tactics!! Racists..but the sporting world wont say anything..becasue we are powerless..inshallah this will change soon though!! I hope we sue them..

Obviously it is deliberate and a reflection of their thinking towards Pakistan. The more weaker and submissive we become, the more dominant and offensive their approach will be. I hope we get a strong and honest leadership to deal with them.
 
I cannot say that this will never happen under PTI government but usually India softens its approach towards Pakistan when we have a government in power who has a strong stance regarding India.

What strong stance?What will PTI do? There is nothing Pakistan can do if India refuses visa.
 
I cannot say that this will never happen under PTI government but usually India softens its approach towards Pakistan when we have a government in power who has a strong stance regarding India.

What can PTI do ? Force Indian Government to grant visas to Pakistanis or else suspend all sporting relations with Pakistan ( which are already suspended ) ?
 
I have said this earlier during the Kabbadi WC, India shouldnot hold these events if it will not give visas to all the participants. Or it should make it clear to the world body at the time of applying for the hosting rights that Pakistanis will not be allowed.
 
Its deliberate to deprive our players of game time and experience. Its part of their petty pathetic small minded racist tactics!! Racists..but the sporting world wont say anything..becasue we are powerless..inshallah this will change soon though!! I hope we sue them..

Racist?

Is it wrong to have a negative attitude towards a country that supports funds trains a separatist and terrorist movement in India?
 
What can PTI do ? Force Indian Government to grant visas to Pakistanis or else suspend all sporting relations with Pakistan ( which are already suspended ) ?

Pakistan is no Srilanka or Maldives. India is in a dominating position only because of our incompetent, dishonest, selfish,spineless, corrupt leaders that have brought our country to this end. You will see what we can do once we have a strong leadership.
 
Pakistan is no Srilanka or Maldives. India is in a dominating position only because of our incompetent, dishonest, selfish,spineless, corrupt leaders that have brought our country to this end. You will see what we can do once we have a strong leadership.

Arey what will you do? Name one thing.
 
Our people need to realize that we have nothing to do with J&K. It is India's internal matter and we should not be poking our noses in it. Unfortunately, it is something that we will never come to terms with. The obsession with Kashmir must end.
 
Our people need to realize that we have nothing to do with J&K. It is India's internal matter and we should not be poking our noses in it. Unfortunately, it is something that we will never come to terms with. The obsession with Kashmir must end.

Pakistan has everything to do with Kashmir. Pakistan has every thing to do with every country on its border.
 
Pakistan has everything to do with Kashmir. Pakistan has every thing to do with every country on its border.

No you dont. You only have rights within your own borders. Rest other countries are free to do whatever they want within theirs.
 
No you dont. You only have rights within your own borders. Rest other countries are free to do whatever they want within theirs.

Rest of the country can do whatever they wish within their border.

Pakistan has everything to do with every country on its border. Matter of fact, every country does. Especially when countries are breeding militant officially and unofficially.
 
Rest of the country can do whatever they wish within their border.

Pakistan has everything to do with every country on its border. Matter of fact, every country does. Especially when countries are breeding militant officially and unofficially.


No country has any rights to interfere in any other country thats international law. Pakistan has no right to do anything in any other country or its internal matters.
 
Arey what will you do? Name one thing.

You people are getting defensive for no reason. All I am saying is that when we will have competent and strong leadership, automatically our economy will improve, our foreign policy will improve, our general standing in the world will improve and it will force India to re-calibrate its stance towards Pakistan.

I am not blaming India for anything. India has implemented its foreign policy since its inception and it is a policy that they feel best secures there national interests. It is our job to counter that effectively. That is how the world works.
 
Your military let India build a fence? LOL. Your military had no power to stop it.

Do not talk about things you do not know. India was fencing in a disputed territory, few meters from our bunkers in an area where fire is exchanged almost daily and you are telling me that we could not do anything. Next you will tell me that Indian Army can walk into Pakistan and we cannot do anything.
 
Same old lame responses from Indian posters. If Pakistan is so bad to them they refuse kids playing squash in their beloved land, why does India continue to trade and why does the Indian PM visit Pakistan to hold hands with the Pak PM?

India shouldn't be given any rights to hold such events if it cannot accommodate certain teams.
 
India might be a big nation in terms of size and population but they are very small people.
 
Same old lame responses from Indian posters. If Pakistan is so bad to them they refuse kids playing squash in their beloved land, why does India continue to trade and why does the Indian PM visit Pakistan to hold hands with the Pak PM?

India shouldn't be given any rights to hold such events if it cannot accommodate certain teams.

Business and trade is more important than sports. Nothing odd about leaders meeting while their countries are not in good terms.
 
Do not talk about things you do not know. India was fencing in a disputed territory, few meters from our bunkers in an area where fire is exchanged almost daily and you are telling me that we could not do anything. Next you will tell me that Indian Army can walk into Pakistan and we cannot do anything.

You mean Surgical strike:)))
 
Do not talk about things you do not know. India was fencing in a disputed territory, few meters from our bunkers in an area where fire is exchanged almost daily and you are telling me that we could not do anything. Next you will tell me that Indian Army can walk into Pakistan and we cannot do anything.

So you think your army would forcefully stop the fencing by firing and killing? What do you think an army almost twice the size will do? Pakistan Army could not do jack unless it wanted a open war with the Indian Army. Dont need to tell you which side could keep up a conventional exchange for a far longer period.

Secondly the fencing is kilometers from your bunkers as there is a huge no mans land.

Third even in case of such disputes states are free to fence the defacto border. There are many such examples.
 
Same old lame responses from Indian posters. If Pakistan is so bad to them they refuse kids playing squash in their beloved land, why does India continue to trade and why does the Indian PM visit Pakistan to hold hands with the Pak PM?

India shouldn't be given any rights to hold such events if it cannot accommodate certain teams.

Trade is guided by WTO rules. Read them up.

Indian PM started a peace initiative but soon realised his stupidity
 
Trade is guided by WTO rules. Read them up.

Indian PM started a peace initiative but soon realised his stupidity

Im glad you've accepted he is stupid, I agree.

Many nations have broken WTO rules with other nations over lesser accusations which India have made against Pakistan. But you carry on with trade while Pakistan kill your people but let's not let kids play squash.
 
I have said this earlier during the Kabbadi WC, India shouldnot hold these events if it will not give visas to all the participants. Or it should make it clear to the world body at the time of applying for the hosting rights that Pakistanis will not be allowed.

Very fair comments, surprisingly.
 
can you provev I said that?

If Pakistan has then sue Pakistan

Then you agree thst pakistan has no right to interfere in the affairs of its neighbours. And the neighbours are free to take action if Pakistan does otherwise.
 
Im glad you've accepted he is stupid, I agree.

Many nations have broken WTO rules with other nations over lesser accusations which India have made against Pakistan. But you carry on with trade while Pakistan kill your people but let's not let kids play squash.

Yes he was stupid to think we can have a peace initiative with Pakistan under the current circumstances.
 
Do not talk about things you do not know. India was fencing in a disputed territory, few meters from our bunkers in an area where fire is exchanged almost daily and you are telling me that we could not do anything. Next you will tell me that Indian Army can walk into Pakistan and we cannot do anything.

To quote the exact figures, the fencing is 150yards from the actual LoC and on the Indian side. So unless Pak Army was willing to come 150yds inside India, it couldnot stop the fencing.
 
Then you agree thst pakistan has no right to interfere in the affairs of its neighbours. And the neighbours are free to take action if Pakistan does otherwise.

World politics isn't about right and wrong, if it was then almost every Indian soldier in kashmir would be tried for crime against humanity.
 
To quote the exact figures, the fencing is 150yards from the actual LoC and on the Indian side. So unless Pak Army was willing to come 150yds inside India, it couldnot stop the fencing.

Both armies are in a low intensity conflict at LOC with regular exchange of fire, rockets, mortar etc since decades and you are telling me we cannot do anything 150 yards inside LOC. But you also believe that India conducted surgical strike inside Pakistan so please spare me and let me watch hockey.
 
World politics isn't about right and wrong, if it was then almost every Indian soldier in kashmir would be tried for crime against humanity.


Again thats the Pakistani viewpoint and the world is not run by Pakistan.
 
Both armies are in a low intensity conflict at LOC with regular exchange of fire, rockets, mortar etc since decades and you are telling me we cannot do anything 150 yards inside LOC. But you also believe that India conducted surgical strike inside Pakistan so please spare me and let me watch hockey.

No you cannot. If you fire deliberately at workers doing the fencing and kill them yoy are asking for open confrontation with the Indian Army. And you have to do it everyday. Pakistan issued a official demarche protesting the fencing. Pervez Mussharaff the then Pak President opposed it.


Pakistan did try to go international to stop the fencing but no one supported Pakistan.

No you cannot stop any construction on Indian side because it will mean retaliation from India which will be disproportionately high. So you are delusional if you think Pak Army "allowed" the fencing or that India needed Pak Army's permission.
 
Pakistan has everything to do with Kashmir. Pakistan has every thing to do with every country on its border.

Pakistan has nothing to do with what India does with one of its states. It is India's internal problem. We have zero claim on J&K.
 
No you cannot. If you fire deliberately at workers doing the fencing and kill them yoy are asking for open confrontation with the Indian Army. And you have to do it everyday. Pakistan issued a official demarche protesting the fencing. Pervez Mussharaff the then Pak President opposed it.


Pakistan did try to go international to stop the fencing but no one supported Pakistan.

No you cannot stop any construction on Indian side because it will mean retaliation from India which will be disproportionately high. So you are delusional if you think Pak Army "allowed" the fencing or that India needed Pak Army's permission.

Yeah right. Pakistan can blow your fence tomorrow if it wants to. Our protests was just a formality for the public. In reality he let the Indians fence it so that they cannot blame us for sending jihadis. It was a wrong move and he should not have allowed them.
 
Racist?

Is it wrong to have a negative attitude towards a country that supports funds trains a separatist and terrorist movement in India?

Your government is funding and arming the balochistan liberation army, and I’m pretty sure UAE officials stated that India was secretly supporting Tehreek-e-Taliban insurgents and separatists in northwest Pakistan!!

You should take some time off from watching your Bollywood movies bro, they’ve corrupted the minds of your people!
 
Yeah right. Pakistan can blow your fence tomorrow if it wants to. Our protests was just a formality for the public. In reality he let the Indians fence it so that they cannot blame us for sending jihadis. It was a wrong move and he should not have allowed them.


Pakistan can do jack to any construction on Indian side of LoC. Blow the fence? And India will sit quiet? Thing is Pakistan is in no position for a open confrontation with India on this. The price is way too high for the Pak Army.

Pakistan is in no position to allow or disallow anything inside Indian territory.
 
Your government is funding and arming the balochistan liberation army, and I’m pretty sure UAE officials stated that India was secretly supporting Tehreek-e-Taliban insurgents and separatists in northwest Pakistan!!

You should take some time off from watching your Bollywood movies bro, they’ve corrupted the minds of your people!

Go to the UN and prove this and get the Indians banned. Saying this on media channels wont mean a thing.
 
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Go to the UN and prove this and get the Indians banned. Saying this on media channels wont mean a thing.

What's the UN going to do? lol

India has been crying to the UN for a long time but people like Hafiz Saeed are still free men. India support terrorists in Pakistan and they will use their own resources to counter this.
 
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Go to the UN and prove this and get the Indians banned. Saying this on media channels wont mean a thing.

What's your point? You say the same about the Pakistani state (army, ISI, etc) and UN doesn't seem to care. Doesn't stop you from shouting it on PP or other media channels.
 
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Pakistan has nothing to do with what India does with one of its states. It is India's internal problem. We have zero claim on J&K.

Pakistan’s authorities and majority of Pakistani believe otherwise for an Indian occupied Kashmir.
 
Really disgusting of India to accept to host such tournaments but not allow one country to participate.

How can world Squash federation allow countries like India to even host such events?

Why don't Indians refuse to host Pakistan in cricket in ICC events?

Why are they playing hockey against us?

Bandar k haath main bandooq type situation.
 
lmao. Petty as usual. Would India deny visas to Pakistan cricketers for a cricket World Cup in India? How in the stupid hell is this even okay with Indians?
 
What's the UN going to do? lol

India has been crying to the UN for a long time but people like Hafiz Saeed are still free men. India support terrorists in Pakistan and they will use their own resources to counter this.

Hafiz Saeed is a internationally banned terrorist. Since Pakistan allows him to roam freely, Pakistan is facing FATF grey list and is routinely hauled up by nstions for terror supporting. Pakistanis are among the extreme visa vetting lists. So on and so forth.

Pakistan has no proof that India supports terrorism in Pakistan.
 
What's your point? You say the same about the Pakistani state (army, ISI, etc) and UN doesn't seem to care. Doesn't stop you from shouting it on PP or other media channels.

Go and check the number of Pakistanis and pakistani organisations on UN banned list or banned by various countries.
 
This is a wrong move by the Indian authorities.If they didn't want to give Visas to Pakistan,the WSF should have moved the tournament from India.
 
Racist?

Is it wrong to have a negative attitude towards a country that supports funds trains a separatist and terrorist movement in India?

bhai meray, the Indian govt has zero concrete evidence of current forms of so called terror support in India by the ISI. And lets say we do, so do you? isnt sport a good way to break the ice? is it not childish to continue this war? There is a lot of goodwill to resolve our issues at the moment in Pakistan even though we caught yadav etc. The indian govt should take some steps and move forward too.

this stuff is petty and childish..let us play..The people deserve a break from the buk buk..
 
bhai meray, the Indian govt has zero concrete evidence of current forms of so called terror support in India by the ISI. And lets say we do, so do you? isnt sport a good way to break the ice? is it not childish to continue this war? There is a lot of goodwill to resolve our issues at the moment in Pakistan even though we caught yadav etc. The indian govt should take some steps and move forward too.

this stuff is petty and childish..let us play..The people deserve a break from the buk buk..

Sir all this goodwill sports etc has done jack to resolve any issues. India gains nothing by these so called goodwill. Pakistan will continue to support activities in Kashmir.

Are LeT and Hafiz Saeed roaming freely in Pakistan without state support?

Pakistan has openly supported Hizbul and other armed terror groups in Kashmir. PakistaninPM openly supported Burhan Wani at the UN.

I agree that India should either give visas or not hold the event or tell the bodies before applying for hosting thst Pakistan will not be allowed. Thats fair.

But this useless breaking ice etc etc means nothing unless Pakistan accepts the reality of the status quo and that it cannot change it.
 
Sir all this goodwill sports etc has done jack to resolve any issues. India gains nothing by these so called goodwill. Pakistan will continue to support activities in Kashmir.

Are LeT and Hafiz Saeed roaming freely in Pakistan without state support?

Pakistan has openly supported Hizbul and other armed terror groups in Kashmir. PakistaninPM openly supported Burhan Wani at the UN.

I agree that India should either give visas or not hold the event or tell the bodies before applying for hosting thst Pakistan will not be allowed. Thats fair.

But this useless breaking ice etc etc means nothing unless Pakistan accepts the reality of the status quo and that it cannot change it.

Burhan wani is a freedom fighter..as long as India refuses to engage in a meaningful peace process, and continues to commit human rights violations in the valley , many Burhan wani's will emerge..

this tournament was a world tournament not a local Indian one. India has zero right to do what they have done here and are being extremely petty. If you want to solve Kashmir come and make some real concrete gestures e.g. de-escalation on the border and LOC, and reduce your troops in the valley...reduce your aggressive military build up on our borders and we can talk.

But as a first step cultural engagement should be seen as a step forward. If you want to continue this it will last for another hundred years..
 
Burhan wani is a freedom fighter..as long as India refuses to engage in a meaningful peace process, and continues to commit human rights violations in the valley , many Burhan wani's will emerge..

this tournament was a world tournament not a local Indian one. India has zero right to do what they have done here and are being extremely petty. If you want to solve Kashmir come and make some real concrete gestures e.g. de-escalation on the border and LOC, and reduce your troops in the valley...reduce your aggressive military build up on our borders and we can talk.

But as a first step cultural engagement should be seen as a step forward. If you want to continue this it will last for another hundred years..

If Burhan Wani is a freedom fighter supported by Pakistan then there is no need for India to engage in any kind of process with Pakistan except the bare minimum diplomatic ones.

If Pakistan wants peace then accept the status quo. Stop supporting armed terrorists in India. Do not interfere in a dispute between India and Kashmiris.We will not be armed twisted into anything that much must be pretty clear now.

But if Pakistan doesnot want peace and wants to continue to support terrorists in India then No we do not need to talk with anyone who thinks terrorists like Burhan Wani are freedom fighters. Time is to further raise costs for Pakistan at the LoC. We have enough economic might to continue this for a 1000 years if need be. Pakistan has no means to change the status, if it believes that its proxy warfare will be a low cost one then that delusion needs to be broken
 
If Burhan Wani is a freedom fighter supported by Pakistan then there is no need for India to engage in any kind of process with Pakistan except the bare minimum diplomatic ones.

If Pakistan wants peace then accept the status quo. Stop supporting armed terrorists in India. Do not interfere in a dispute between India and Kashmiris.We will not be armed twisted into anything that much must be pretty clear now.

But if Pakistan doesnot want peace and wants to continue to support terrorists in India then No we do not need to talk with anyone who thinks terrorists like Burhan Wani are freedom fighters. Time is to further raise costs for Pakistan at the LoC. We have enough economic might to continue this for a 1000 years if need be. Pakistan has no means to change the status, if it believes that its proxy warfare will be a low cost one then that delusion needs to be broken

Indian occupied kashmir is terrorized by the people in uniform.
 
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