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"India have invested in FC cricket, our FC cricket was run by a random journalist" : Wasim Akram

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"India have invested in FC cricket, our FC cricket was run by a random journalist" : Wasim Akram

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wasim Akram "Indian cricket has invested everything in First-Class cricket not just in last few years. In Pakistan we've hardly done anything about our First-Class system & change it every year. Our FC cricket was run by a random journalist for some odd reason, I don't know why"</p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1140309585456226306?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 16, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I think it was an irresponsible statement. That random journalist was not a problem when Pak won champions trophy and were briefly No .1 team.
 
I think it was an irresponsible statement. That random journalist was not a problem when Pak won champions trophy and were briefly No .1 team.

I think this is the issue. People tend to focus more in unrelated minor issues than the overall message.
 
I think it was an irresponsible statement. That random journalist was not a problem when Pak won champions trophy and were briefly No .1 team.

no one cares about CT when the following results were crap. after 1992, we got shoaib akhtar, we got saeed answer we got inzamam, we got youhana. we got legends. who did we get after CT. Biryani!!!
 
yeah unprofessional statements. He is not the head of your cricket now. So, why aren't you performing now? What's stopping you to win ICC tournaments?

Our team had better record under that journalist than the current set of hacks in management.
 
I wonder what did BCCI do differently? Both countries are third world, both are infected by corruption, both more or less share same culture/traditions/thinking/lack of professionalism.

India looks a complete professional team barring their middle order. The way these guys carry themselves under crunch moments can only be dreamt by Pak players.

What happened?
 
What else is there left for Pakistan Cricket to do? How much lower can we go? What is there to lose now by carrying out Imran Khan's vision toy domestic cricket?

We have been dramatically left behind everyone else. The vast majority of cricketers in the team are those who stagnated and did not work hard to take their games to the next level due to the absence of competition and accountability. The state of our captain says it all
 
I wonder what did BCCI do differently? Both countries are third world, both are infected by corruption, both more or less share same culture/traditions/thinking/lack of professionalism.

India looks a complete professional team barring their middle order. The way these guys carry themselves under crunch moments can only be dreamt by Pak players.

What happened?

Actually your assertion and assumption is the problem. Not the question.
 
I wonder what did BCCI do differently? Both countries are third world, both are infected by corruption, both more or less share same culture/traditions/thinking/lack of professionalism.

India looks a complete professional team barring their middle order. The way these guys carry themselves under crunch moments can only be dreamt by Pak players.

What happened?

indian government leaders dont steal from their citizens like pakistani government leaders do.
 
He is spot on.

The cups are fine. You have to look at overall health if the sport over a period of time. Without trophies, India’s been top ranked team in all formats.

You take one cup away from pakistan and they are just above Bangladesh and zero Lanka maybe.

Pakistan used to be better than that when i grew up watching cricket
 
We make fun of SA and call them ‘Chokers’ but in reality we have been choking for a long, long time now. Something is seriously messed up.

Wasim Khan is being payed 4 million/month. He better deliver, if not we are doomed. We can’t live for odd glory here and there.
 
indian government leaders dont steal from their citizens like pakistani government leaders do.

They steal as well but education levels are much higher in India. Per capita income levels are already 50% above Pakistan and the gap is widening.
 
I wonder what did BCCI do differently? Both countries are third world, both are infected by corruption, both more or less share same culture/traditions/thinking/lack of professionalism.

India looks a complete professional team barring their middle order. The way these guys carry themselves under crunch moments can only be dreamt by Pak players.

What happened?

India has always been a more professional and methodical side because they believed in their system, our focus has been finding hacks and "18 year old talents" because we were always fed the idea that talent is way more important than system and this is why we find ourselves where we are.
 
We make fun of SA and call them ‘Chokers’ but in reality we have been choking for a long, long time now. Something is seriously messed up.

Wasim Khan is being payed 4 million/month. He better deliver, if not we are doomed. We can’t live for odd glory here and there.

Wasim Khan's plans have to work otherwise I see cricket ending up like hockey. We will be playing cricket but won't compete with anyone except Nepal, Holland.

If Wasim Khan's plans are allowed to be implemented it will take 4-5 years to produce better cricketers who are used to such high level games and the pressure with it.
 
Wasim Akram, a convicted match fixer has no right to comment on Pakistan cricket. When the annals of Pakistan cricket will be written some years down the road and by a neutral observer, Wasim's profound damage to Pakistan cricket shall come to the fore...

Back to the OP, it's quite rich coming from the man who had the best players/team in the world at the time , yet he managed to fix and politicking his way to one embarrassing defeat after another...never established a consistent, steady and robust team that will win series and tournaments on a regular basis and didn't do any justice to his own legacy.
 
India has always been a more professional and methodical side because they believed in their system, our focus has been finding hacks and "18 year old talents" because we were always fed the idea that talent is way more important than system and this is why we find ourselves where we are.

You summed it up so brilliantly.
 
Nothing will change- too many people have too much to lose. Even if we have 6 FC teams they will end up being clogged with terrible 30yr olds with no prospect of playing for PK. If you don't believe me, look at the selection of the PSL teams.
 
Oh like Wasim Akram knows anything about the current state of the Pakistani first class system. Imagine paying attention to anything he says
 
Harsh truth seemed like he was really angry. Obviously he can't list every PCB head who has done nothing for the game to grow and prosper. So just gave the journalist as an example of how things work (or are not working atm).
 
Wasim Akram is a shameless individual who was just a day back badmouthing Pakistani players on indian networks. It was not a wrong statement but the timing and his own shameful deeds really make one angry.

Can somebody ask him why he criticises the players but shields his friend chief selector who is behind this batting lineup for 3 and a half years. Whenever Chief selector lobbied and pushed his favorites over merit after Pakistan's defeat in the Asia Cup where was he?
 
I wonder what did BCCI do differently? Both countries are third world, both are infected by corruption, both more or less share same culture/traditions/thinking/lack of professionalism.

India looks a complete professional team barring their middle order. The way these guys carry themselves under crunch moments can only be dreamt by Pak players.

What happened?

Its a misconception that in india there is corruption. If you are good enough you will get selected no matter what
 
Harsh truth seemed like he was really angry. Obviously he can't list every PCB head who has done nothing for the game to grow and prosper. So just gave the journalist as an example of how things work (or are not working atm).

Nothing can be worse than Ijaz Butt era, I mean nothing. And he was an ex-cricketer?
 
Wasim Akram is a shameless individual who was just a day back badmouthing Pakistani players on indian networks. It was not a wrong statement but the timing and his own shameful deeds really make one angry.

Can somebody ask him why he criticises the players but shields his friend chief selector who is behind this batting lineup for 3 and a half years. Whenever Chief selector lobbied and pushed his favorites over merit after Pakistan's defeat in the Asia Cup where was he?

you joined this june. ill cut you some slack. if wasim rightfully criticises pakistani players on any tv. he has the right to. even if does it on indian tv. itni humiliation honey chaheeye to get a kick in the behind for the pak team
 
Is that journalist suppose to teach fakhar how to hit shankars half volleys to the boundary instead of straight to the fielder!!
 
Still comparing India and Pakistan are we? Why do you live in denial? India’s economy and GDP/capita is superior to Pakistan. India has better foreign relations and has come to grasp the fact that emotions and jazba don’t win you anything unless you put the work in
 
You are on the PCB Cricket Committee.

Do something to help or shut the hell up and stick to your lucrative commentary gigs around the world.

No mood for lectures from ex-players when they sit in positions of authority themselves.
 
Our clueless ex-cricketers have a big hand in this aswell, if you look at most of the PSL teams who are lead by these ex-cricketers none of them are bringing any fresh talent or new faces. Wasim Akram was in charge of Multan Sultan and his side consisted of youngsta beauties such as Shahid Afridi, Shoaib Malik, Mohammad Irfan, Junaid Khan.
 
I wonder what did BCCI do differently? Both countries are third world, both are infected by corruption, both more or less share same culture/traditions/thinking/lack of professionalism.

India looks a complete professional team barring their middle order. The way these guys carry themselves under crunch moments can only be dreamt by Pak players.

What happened?

India is less corrupt, less political involvement and IPL has made BCCI rich.
 
I think it was an irresponsible statement. That random journalist was not a problem when Pak won champions trophy and were briefly No .1 team.

We won those tournaments despite our terrible systems. We have the talent, but we don't know how to polish them into great players. This is the reason our players burst onto the scene looking like greats and then fade away soon after.
 
Still comparing India and Pakistan are we? Why do you live in denial? India’s economy and GDP/capita is superior to Pakistan. India has better foreign relations and has come to grasp the fact that emotions and jazba don’t win you anything unless you put the work in

GDP per capita isn’t that different. India is slightly ahead. Indias GDP(nominal) is larger though.
 
valid statement, but there is more to it

Indian cricket team are a throughly professional outfit, not the case for Pakistan. People here are selected on the basis of a few good minutes in the PSL, most of the players are out of shape, players come in to the team after not being part of the plan for years... in 2019 no professional organization can be successful unless their is some organization and professionalism
 
He is right. The days of finding talent and hoping they come good are over. They need to play domestic cricket on good pitches , in good atmospheres on a regular basis.
 
they need to cancel PSL and spend money and pick players who can last 5 days on the pitch
 
I hope this humiliation ends this crappy system. I hope people in PCB make serious changes, we have had enough.
 
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Nothing can be worse than Ijaz Butt era, I mean nothing. And he was an ex-cricketer?
i am not saying cricketers are better than journalists, maybe there is a journalist out there who would be perfect at managing pak cricket , i am saying wasim was right in pointing out and asking what did sethi do for the game of cricket in pakistan.
 
He is right. The days of finding talent and hoping they come good are over. They need to play domestic cricket on good pitches , in good atmospheres on a regular basis.

Agreed. Hard work beats raw talent, especially in this day and age with the modern technology and science that is applied in sports.

they need to cancel PSL and spend money and pick players who can last 5 days on the pitch

Should prioritize FC-Cricket and require at least 1 year of domestic cricket before anyone can join the international team. There’s no glory in T20 cricket.
 
Wasim Akram, a convicted match fixer has no right to comment on Pakistan cricket. When the annals of Pakistan cricket will be written some years down the road and by a neutral observer, Wasim's profound damage to Pakistan cricket shall come to the fore...

Back to the OP, it's quite rich coming from the man who had the best players/team in the world at the time , yet he managed to fix and politicking his way to one embarrassing defeat after another...never established a consistent, steady and robust team that will win series and tournaments on a regular basis and didn't do any justice to his own legacy.

Wasim Akram is one of the biggest scoundrels in the history of Pakistan cricket and still managed to go down as one of the best cricketers ever. The damage he has done to our cricket is irreversible
 
Oh like Wasim Akram knows anything about the current state of the Pakistani first class system. Imagine paying attention to anything he says

Wasim should stick to reading out stats in the commentary box. It’s all he knows
 
What’s wrong with my assumptions? Its the truth.

Both countries face similar problems.

You might as well lump in Somalia in the mix. I am sure all three will have some similar problems.

India has developed an Australia style institution grooming kids from very young age. Kids at 18 / 19 compete for IPL squad. U 17 and U 19 is serious business with ex cricketers involved in the system.

First class cricketers are paid as well as any across the globe. The cricket is monitored by the Supreme Court guidelines. It’s is private body which needs to declare its financials. IPL is valued more than the WC.

So. Simplistic nonsense comparison of both being third world countries doesn’t cut it.
 
It took India a good 10 years of investment to start reaping rewards
 
For everyone, he is referring to Shakil Sheikh not Najam Sethi. He had posted a few tweet about Sheikh as well a few years back.
 
india still has many world class batsmen who are not getting oppurtunities to play for india.

manish pandey, shreyas iyer, mayank agrawal and a few others are world class batsmen deserving to play international cricket in both odis and tests.
not to mention the upcoming young ones like rishabh pant, prithvi shaw, gill etc.

indian cricket is churning out top quality batsmen like a machine and they are incredibly unlucky and cannot make it in the indian team
 
For everyone, he is referring to Shakil Sheikh not Najam Sethi. He had posted a few tweet about Sheikh as well a few years back.

here is an old comment i grabbed off an article about him

"Shakil Sheikh will succeed as Board itself has no moral authority or any SOPs whatsoever. Let three goons kill cricket. Shakil Sheikh is charging minimum Rs. 5000/- admission fee & Rs.2000 monthly from poor cricketers to play for his Diamond Cricket Club. He is also grabbing 1million per month from ground bookings. No bowler can ball at nets if failed to pay 2000 by 5th of each month. It is all happening under his notorious instruction. Bad name on cricket."

disgusting all these individuals.
 
You might as well lump in Somalia in the mix. I am sure all three will have some similar problems.

India has developed an Australia style institution grooming kids from very young age. Kids at 18 / 19 compete for IPL squad. U 17 and U 19 is serious business with ex cricketers involved in the system.

First class cricketers are paid as well as any across the globe. The cricket is monitored by the Supreme Court guidelines. It’s is private body which needs to declare its financials. IPL is valued more than the WC.

So. Simplistic nonsense comparison of both being third world countries doesn’t cut it.
Ok fair enough, agreed.

Our ex-players badmouth each other and make lives hell for current players. Indian cricketers are way, way better. They seem more educated and professionals when criticizing. I have never heard Ganguly badmouthing Dravid. Whereas, Akhtar badmouths Moin and vice versa. Its a circus really. Im fed up. Its the only sport I follow with passion and team lets me down consistently.
 
Things will not greatly improve if we made drastic changes. Waz was right in saying hat we did. The problem goes to the roots of Pak cricket.
 
It's very regular from Pakistani ex-players to put the blame on everything and anything that is not part of squad. There were 11 men playing today and they need to be held responsible first and after that the coach and the selectors. That Shoaib Malik keeps playing over Haris Sohail is a question that must be answered. That Mohammad Amir gets an automatic entry into the squad after being a convicted fixer, is a proof that professionalism is not a parameter for selection in Pakistan but fans support is.
 
Agreed

There is no other way. Hope Wasim khan can implement some good changes

Results won’t come straight away but this is the only way
 
here is an old comment i grabbed off an article about him

"Shakil Sheikh will succeed as Board itself has no moral authority or any SOPs whatsoever. Let three goons kill cricket. Shakil Sheikh is charging minimum Rs. 5000/- admission fee & Rs.2000 monthly from poor cricketers to play for his Diamond Cricket Club. He is also grabbing 1million per month from ground bookings. No bowler can ball at nets if failed to pay 2000 by 5th of each month. It is all happening under his notorious instruction. Bad name on cricket."

disgusting all these individuals.

Not to mention sneaking in his below average and talentless son in every domestic tournament. Rarely has ever been any "specialist spinner" who has such poor stats as Arsal Sheikh. I remember during the pentagular or pakistan cup, he would manipulate the rules or player pool of emerging category to get his son selected.
 
Lol Wasim Akram is the true definition of Ehsan Faramosh, he coddled up to Sethi all those years and landed a role in the PSL and is now talking smack about him
 
Lol Wasim Akram is the true definition of Ehsan Faramosh, he coddled up to Sethi all those years and landed a role in the PSL and is now talking smack about him

He is not talking about Sethi
 
Wasim Akram speaking his mind nowadays.

Speaking way too much.
He used to say that Pakistan have a lot of talent etc. Now when Sikandar Bakht added some heat Wasim confessed that Pakistan have no quality domestic players.
 
Evolution of Indian Cricket didn't happen overnight. The policies and the visions shared by seniors and administrators have taken time to trickle down the lower levels of cricket within the cricket.

Hits

- Decent salary to domestic cricketers
- More stadiums with good facilities
- Good pathway programs such as India U19 and India A teams
- International flavour and exposure through IPL
- Succesfully clamping down on bowlers who chuck(ex - Pragyan) and over age cricketers without any directions from ICC

Misses

- Not able to get new NCA running with modern facilities and emphasis on scientific research. It will take a very long time to build it
- Contracts according to pay grades for domestic cricketers
- Not able to integrate ground staff into so called "cricket community" yet. They need to have better wages with a professional look about them in the ground
- Umpiring standard has been abysmal in the domestic cricket. This after spending so much of money on Simon Taufel for creating a program for umpires and monitoring them

Jigsaw Puzzles

- How to get more utility cricketers from domestic set up, since there are so many teams, few cricketers don't have to concentrate on all 3 facets of the game
- How to get the players to play in day night long duration games with orange ball as due is an hindrance
- How to give break to second string players like Shreyas Iyer a break from non stop cricket through out the year

Vision

- By 2023, India develops a solid bench strength in such a way that even "A" team can give international teams a run for their money
- Produce more all round cricketers
- Take cricket deep into rural areas
- Have more Indian coaches plying their trade in International cricket (Currently Sunil Joshi - Bangladesh, Sriram - Australia)
- State associations become independent through innovative marketing strategies
 
Wasim has never ever commented on Pakistan's first class cricket before, he was someone content with life and his achievements in Cricket and giving back to Pakistan Cricket was always secondary to him. Am surprised he woke up and smelt the coffee of Pakistan's poor first class scene a good 16 years after retirement.
 
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