India haven't lost any of their last 17 Tests

[ali ray]

With 17th test also fastly approaching in their favour, india the current No 1 Team was unbeaten in their last 16 tests and shows their dominance that why they are No 1 test team at the moment.
Beat srilanka twice
Beat southafrica thrice and win 4 match series 3-0
Beat westindies away 2-0
Beat NZ at home 3-0
Now currently leading the series 2-0 against England
And now as next series are against bangladesh and australia the streak may continue to grow...

 

[ArunOnline]

So its 17 now and the streak is very likely to continue if you consider the fixture rby

 

[The_Odd_One]

Given how terrible foreign teams are in Asia, this was always on the cards.

Any team who visits India will be beaten blue and red in the next 2 years.

 

[Hasan123]

A golden era potentially awaits the Indian tests team, just need to perform away from the subcontinent for it to be confirmed. The only bad thing is that Pakistan doesn't get a chance to play India to end the debate.

 

[Screopho]

They will continue the form into next year but if they want overseas success they need to brood in couple more fast bowlers. Shami is awesome but needs someone more reliable on the other end. If he's injured Yadav and co completely lose it. BK will come good but only with conditions in his favor.

 

[leg-side-flick]

A golden era potentially awaits the Indian tests team, just need to perform away from the subcontinent for it to be confirmed. The only bad thing is that Pakistan doesn't get a chance to play India to end the debate.

It would be a very good series to be honest.... India slightly ahead coz of Kohli

 

[leg-side-flick]

They will continue the form into next year but if they want overseas success they need to brood in couple more fast bowlers. Shami is awesome but needs someone more reliable on the other end. If he's injured Yadav and co completely lose it. BK will come good but only with conditions in his favor.

Ishant, BK, Yadav, Shami and Varun.... + Ashwin should be ok....

India's issue overseas generally has been batsman

 

[Screopho]

Ishant, BK, Yadav, Shami and Varun.... + Ashwin should be ok....

India's issue overseas generally has been batsman

See the names look good only on paper. If Shami is not around the others don't stick to a plan, especially Yadav and Ishant. Haven't seen Varun in action for a long time. Middle order needs a look too, especially if Rahane's confidence is shattered with the home season.

 

[Slog]

function of a fortunate schedule.

it will continue

whats the longest unbeaten streak?

 

[Pete Rose]

This has to be stopped. I demand pakistan tours them and shows them their place...

 

[Hasan123]

It would be a very good series to be honest.... India slightly ahead coz of Kohli

It would be a close series but seeing the way India is playing atm I think they may just edge it.

 

[Stark]

This has to be stopped. I demand pakistan tours them and shows them their place...

Will consider it, only if...
A certain player from your team enrolls into the next season of Jhalak Dikhla Ja and exhibits some smooth n slick dance moves first.

 

[Sachin136]

function of a fortunate schedule.

it will continue

whats the longest unbeaten streak?

The longest unbeaten home streak by India is 20 tests.

 

[Pete Rose]

Will consider it, only if...
A certain player from your team enrolls into the next season of Jhalak Dikhla Ja and exhibits some smooth n slick dance moves first.

Take whoever you need. Small price to pay.

 

[Blitz]

function of a fortunate schedule.

it will continue

whats the longest unbeaten streak?

Comments like these and all the rest are so poor and bitter.

17 test matches unbeaten is an incredible streak.

Statistically we just had the best Pakistan team in history. It just lost a test match at home to statistically the worst WI team ever. And this is in the UAE where we are almost unbeatable.

We lost a test match last year to NZ. Then a few to SL. South Africa too. The simple point is, this is quite an incredible achievement. No point soiling it.

It would be interesting to see the longest unbeaten runs in cricket. Can't imagine theres many if any longer then 25-30?

 

[Abdullah719]

whats the longest unbeaten streak?

It would be interesting to see the longest unbeaten runs in cricket. Can't imagine theres many if any longer then 25-30?

27 Tests - West Indies in mid '80s.

 

[Abdullah]

bangla can beat them if it is a dustbowl

 

[Major]

bangla can beat them if it is a dustbowl

Bangladesh needs to develop its spinners furthur. Remember, India are great players of spin

 

[Bilal7]

Bangladesh needs to develop its spinners furthur. Remember, India are great players of spin

So are the Bengalis. Well, not great but they're good enough. Should be a good contest event though India are heavy favorites.

The moment India has to tour England, New Zealand, South Africa or God forbid, Australia, this streak will end. A good achievement no doubt but it's clear that this is not a great team.

 

[GenericBrand]

Nah, Ashwin equally bamboozles BDeshi batsmen as much as he does to Aussies/Saffers/English

Not to mention their line-up is filled with LH batsmen.

 

[FreePalestine]

Pakistan are the only side that could challenge India in India, although the home team would certainly be favourites.

 

[Slog]

The longest unbeaten home streak by India is 20 tests.

in 90s?

 

[Slog]

Pakistan are the only side that could challenge India in India, although the home team would certainly be favourites.

India will win i think

few months ago i thought we may sweep the floor with them but looking at NZ and Eng series I have to accept that the pitch conditions and spin assistance there is of different nature to UAE and our batsmen will be unfamiliar with it.

Ashwin is an amazing spinner in India. I think we'll smash him in UAE or elsewhere but his grip on the Indian conditions is amazing

 

[cric_fanatic]

India and Pakistan are scheduled for a series next year. Is there any possibility of it going through? I hope.. i really do..

 

[Varun]

Pretty sure we'll win vs Pakistan in both the UAE and India. Pakistan are rather negative in test cricket while our batsmen are quite positive.

And Yasir Shah is just one bowler who I'm sure all our batsmen won't lose their wickets to.

 

[Couch Cricketer]

Pretty sure we'll win vs Pakistan in both the UAE and India. Pakistan are rather negative in test cricket while our batsmen are quite positive.

And Yasir Shah is just one bowler who I'm sure all our batsmen won't lose their wickets to.

Depends on who our 2nd spinner is in Uae I expect draws are more likely then a victory. In India if we had a 2nd spinner that can stop the flow of runs Indian batsman can falter. The english spin attack is not able to bowl 2-3 overs on the trot without a bad ball to ease the pressure. But the biggest advantage India has is in spin allrounders. India was saved blushes in WI because of Ashwin's batting and in subcontinent or slow conditions the 100-150 runs these guys add are invaluable. England has a similar line up but for faster conditions where its fast bowling allrounders give it a batting depth that is hard to beat.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

We would comfortably beat Pakistan both in the UAE and in India. Our team is much stronger in such conditions. Forget spinners, even our seamers look sharper. Also our catching is bound to improve. This team is only starting to show its potential .

 

[ShoonyaSifar]

Great to win at home or in familiar conditions. But the real strength of Kohli's side will be known when we tour SA, Eng and Aus. Drawing a couple of them or winning at least one of those series has to be the benchmark for Kohli and Kumble.

Going by his sound bytes, Kohli does seem focused on that aspect as well. Results will tell us how much of progress we have really made.

 

[Mamoon]

India will win i think

few months ago i thought we may sweep the floor with them but looking at NZ and Eng series I have to accept that the pitch conditions and spin assistance there is of different nature to UAE and our batsmen will be unfamiliar with it.

Ashwin is an amazing spinner in India. I think we'll smash him in UAE or elsewhere but his grip on the Indian conditions is amazing

We continue to overrate our ability to play spin. Bishoo ran through us numerous times and even Tahir won a Test for SA in Sharjah in a session.

Apart from Younis, Misbah and Sarfraz, the rest are overhyped against spin. Azhar and Shafiq have a lot of technical flaws vs spin and they are unconvincing against Herath who is the only top class spinner they have faced in recent years.

Ashwin will get the better of them and we will not even come close to smashing him in the UAE.

India is simply a superior team to us in Asia and should beat us both in India and the UAE. They are better in all three departments.

 

[Abdullah]

Bangladesh needs to develop its spinners furthur. Remember, India are great players of spin

they r not all that against spin. england spinners were average. rashid was ok but u need tight finger spin more

 

[Abdullah]

India and Pakistan are scheduled for a series next year. Is there any possibility of it going through? I hope.. i really do..

given misbah and younis will have retired.........
it might.
that weakens pak in thise conditions majorly

 

[RamLakhan]

bangla can beat them if it is a dustbowl

Not possible in Test Matches, never. Even a minnow turned developing turned strong turned average (now) Srilankan team could not achieve in its lifetime (in India - Test Match!)

 

[DRsohail]

We would comfortably beat Pakistan both in the UAE and in India. Our team is much stronger in such conditions. Forget spinners, even our seamers look sharper. Also our catching is bound to improve. This team is only starting to show its potential .

not cofortably...thogh india is ahead..it will bi 60/40

 

[DRsohail]

Great to win at home or in familiar conditions. But the real strength of Kohli's side will be known when we tour SA, Eng and Aus. Drawing a couple of them or winning at least one of those series has to be the benchmark for Kohli and Kumble.

Going by his sound bytes, Kohli does seem focused on that aspect as well. Results will tell us how much of progress we have really made.

mature and realistic comment..i do expect india will do better now. they need another good fast bowler like shami.

 

[Slog]

We continue to overrate our ability to play spin. Bishoo ran through us numerous times and even Tahir won a Test for SA in Sharjah in a session.

Apart from Younis, Misbah and Sarfraz, the rest are overhyped against spin. Azhar and Shafiq have a lot of technical flaws vs spin and they are unconvincing against Herath who is the only top class spinner they have faced in recent years.

Ashwin will get the better of them and we will not even come close to smashing him in the UAE.

India is simply a superior team to us in Asia and should beat us both in India and the UAE. They are better in all three departments.

disagree

Indian bowling is one dimensional.

We'll be the better side in UAE eventhough overall I agree we are on a decline whereas they are on the way up

 

[Statsman]

disagree

Indian bowling is one dimensional.

We'll be the better side in UAE eventhough overall I agree we are on a decline whereas they are on the way up

Indian pacers usually do well against Pakistani batsmen. I expect Yadav to suddenly become very good. Shami is good any way. Bhuvi can do well against the openers.

Against all other teams I can never be confident.

 

[Sidilicious]

Depends on who our 2nd spinner is in Uae I expect draws are more likely then a victory. In India if we had a 2nd spinner that can stop the flow of runs Indian batsman can falter. The english spin attack is not able to bowl 2-3 overs on the trot without a bad ball to ease the pressure. But the biggest advantage India has is in spin allrounders. India was saved blushes in WI because of Ashwin's batting and in subcontinent or slow conditions the 100-150 runs these guys add are invaluable. England has a similar line up but for faster conditions where its fast bowling allrounders give it a batting depth that is hard to beat.

I think the UAE would be a drawn series. Both teams would win 1-1 due to a special spell each from Yasir and Ash. The batsmen will otherwise have a field day.

I think India would now win in India, primarily because Paksitani batsmen are not stroke makers. Looking at the pitches in India, the batsmen who can defend but can also play fluently are the ones that will score runs. Pakistan batsmen are good at defensive back to the walls batting, but in order to win in India, they will need to score at a decent pace. And thats where they lack. Especially with your main batsmen. So, you'll be able to do bit of blockathon if needed; also amass in 600 runs in the 1st/2nd innings in a test or two. But on pitches such as Mumbai your batsmen will score below par totals. So, in India, if its a 5 match series, I would give it 2-0 to India.

In UAE, if its a 3 match series (purely because pitches dont offer attractive cricket so I would hate to see anything more than 3 tests), it would be 1-1. In fact, even if its a 5 test series in the UAE, it would be 1-1.

 

[Zeshan547]

Oh bhai all you guys are mad or what, pak does score slow but vs pacers, not spinner, our spin specialist lot love to smack spinner and they have made career out of it, if pak face 70 out of 90 overs of spin in a days play the will score at 3.5 per over vs them, and at around 2 vs pacers, so it adds upto around 290 runs per day at more than 3 rpo which is good enough run rate in test anywhere in the world, so slow scoring won't be an issue.

 

[leg-side-flick]

Oh bhai all you guys are mad or what, pak does score slow but vs pacers, not spinner, our spin specialist lot love to smack spinner and they have made career out of it, if pak face 70 out of 90 overs of spin in a days play the will score at 3.5 per over vs them, and at around 2 vs pacers, so it adds upto around 290 runs per day at more than 3 rpo which is good enough run rate in test anywhere in the world, so slow scoring won't be an issue.

Which spinners of quality have been smacked by Pak batsmen off late and thereby made a career out of it

 

[Pete Rose]

Snide comments aside, this is a very impressive performance. For a board that gets accused of sobatging test cricket often, it's a testament to them and the players that they go out there and put out a performance so dominant. Kohli and his team are doing their best to keep test cricket going.

 

[Sachin136]

in 90s?

1977-80

 

[Tera Gawaandi]

So are the Bengalis. Well, not great but they're good enough. Should be a good contest event though India are heavy favorites.

Bengali is an ethnic group, India is home to 100 million. Residents of Bangladesh are called Bangladeshis.

 

[Convict]

How many wins in a row?

Can they beat Australia's record?

bare in mind they have 4 guaranteed wins coming up against Aus

 

[Mamoon]

disagree

Indian bowling is one dimensional.

We'll be the better side in UAE eventhough overall I agree we are on a decline whereas they are on the way up

Well so is ours, with our army of left-arm pacers none of whom are reliable wicket-takers. Yasir vs Ashwin can be debated for days, but we don't have anyone equivalent to Jadeja as a support spinner. They also have better batting depth.

At the moment, India is comfortably better than Pakistan in my opinion.

 

[Abdullah719]

How many wins in a row?

Can they beat Australia's record?

bare in mind they have 4 guaranteed wins coming up against Aus

Well, the first Test was a draw so it's three wins in a row.

16 is slightly far off...

 

[Mamoon]

How many wins in a row?

Can they beat Australia's record?

bare in mind they have 4 guaranteed wins coming up against Aus

They drew the first Test so 3 wins in a row, which means they are not getting close to Australia's record of 16 wins.

 

[Metron]

How many wins in a row?

Can they beat Australia's record?

bare in mind they have 4 guaranteed wins coming up against Aus

Aussie record is as unbreakable as Bradman's test average. That team was simply miles ahead of everyone.

Just checked : They did it twice.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/wi/content/records/105118.html

India is good but not that good!

 

[Sin Nombre]

How many wins in a row?

Can they beat Australia's record?

bare in mind they have 4 guaranteed wins coming up against Aus

Not even in contention. Rain helped SA and WI to draw games and Rajkot was a genuine draw.

The only record that may be broken is WI's 27 matches unbeaten.

Currently, 17
with 1 at home vs England, 1 at home vs BD, 4 at home vs Aus, 3 away in SL to take it to 26.

Need to win or draw the first 2 tests in SA to get to the record if that happens.

 

[Sin Nombre]

Aussie record is as unbreakable as Bradman's test average. That team was simply miles ahead of everyone.

Just checked : They did it twice.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/wi/content/records/105118.html

India is good but not that good!

Both streaks broken by India, once at home and once in Aus.

It would be good if the bilateral series became as competitive again.

 

[Speedster777]

Well so is ours, with our army of left-arm pacers none of whom are reliable wicket-takers. Yasir vs Ashwin can be debated for days, but we don't have anyone equivalent to Jadeja as a support spinner. They also have better batting depth.

At the moment, India is comfortably better than Pakistan in my opinion.

They're definitely better. Also their top batsmen are very hard working and in pace with modern cricket.

 

[endymion248]

function of a fortunate schedule.

it will continue

whats the longest unbeaten streak?

It's not a fortunate schedule, BCCI learnt a lesson from the back to back whitewashes in Australia and England. Now they keep WI and SL away and home tours in between to not get humiliated again.

 

[Markhor]

We continue to overrate our ability to play spin. Bishoo ran through us numerous times and even Tahir won a Test for SA in Sharjah in a session.

Apart from Younis, Misbah and Sarfraz, the rest are overhyped against spin. Azhar and Shafiq have a lot of technical flaws vs spin and they are unconvincing against Herath who is the only top class spinner they have faced in recent years.

Ashwin will get the better of them and we will not even come close to smashing him in the UAE.

India is simply a superior team to us in Asia and should beat us both in India and the UAE. They are better in all three departments.

This is an example of spinning a narrative without context. We batted suicidally against Bishoo in Dubai because our batsmen wanted quick 2nd inns runs to allow for enough time for bowl at WI.

We slogged our wickets away. This is one of the differences between Pakistan and India. India are much more ruthless when they have the upper hand. Take that spell out and Bishoo was otherwise negotiated comfortably. In Sharjah, the 4 wickets that Bishoo took in the 1st inns - two of which were from Misbah and Aslam attempting idiotic reverse sweeps and the two wickets were of Nawaz, who's a rubbish batsman, and Wahab. In the 2nd inns, it was Holder who did the damage.

I hardly call this as being exposed against spin. As for Herath, in the 2015 series he was dropped after failing in the first two Tests.

 

[Sachin136]

function of a fortunate schedule.

it will continue

whats the longest unbeaten streak?

It's not a fortunate schedule, BCCI learnt a lesson from the back to back whitewashes in Australia and England. Now they keep WI and SL away and home tours in between to not get humiliated again.

Every team has a round of home series and a round of tours. India isn't the only country who does this.

Since 2013, Pakistan has mostly played home series along with some tours to Zimbabwe and SL.

 

[Slog]

Every team has a round of home series and a round of tours. India isn't the only country who does this.

Since 2013, Pakistan has mostly played home series along with some tours to Zimbabwe and SL.

Not really

It's mostly a subcontinent team thing

The English and Aussie teams have fairly spread out series

Ie one minor and one major home series every summer and 2 away series every winter apart from ashes year

Same with Aussies pretty much

I think now Indja won't have a continuous away tour diet either

 

[LastManstanding]

This is an example of spinning a narrative without context. We batted suicidally against Bishoo in Dubai because our batsmen wanted quick 2nd inns runs to allow for enough time for bowl at WI.

We slogged our wickets away. This is one of the differences between Pakistan and India. India are much more ruthless when they have the upper hand. Take that spell out and Bishoo was otherwise negotiated comfortably. In Sharjah, the 4 wickets that Bishoo took in the 1st inns - two of which were from Misbah and Aslam attempting idiotic reverse sweeps and the two wickets were of Nawaz, who's a rubbish batsman, and Wahab. In the 2nd inns, it was Holder who did the damage.

I hardly call this as being exposed against spin. As for Herath, in the 2015 series he was dropped after failing in the first two Tests.

One can also make the argument that Bishoo didn't get to bowl in the last innings, the time at which he would have got the most help from the pitch.

 

[Couch Cricketer]

I think the UAE would be a drawn series. Both teams would win 1-1 due to a special spell each from Yasir and Ash. The batsmen will otherwise have a field day.

I think India would now win in India, primarily because Paksitani batsmen are not stroke makers. Looking at the pitches in India, the batsmen who can defend but can also play fluently are the ones that will score runs. Pakistan batsmen are good at defensive back to the walls batting, but in order to win in India, they will need to score at a decent pace. And thats where they lack. Especially with your main batsmen. So, you'll be able to do bit of blockathon if needed; also amass in 600 runs in the 1st/2nd innings in a test or two. But on pitches such as Mumbai your batsmen will score below par totals. So, in India, if its a 5 match series, I would give it 2-0 to India.

In UAE, if its a 3 match series (purely because pitches dont offer attractive cricket so I would hate to see anything more than 3 tests), it would be 1-1. In fact, even if its a 5 test series in the UAE, it would be 1-1.

Although I agree that India is probably the stronger team currently. A thing most of you are not recognising is that Pakistan plays slow against fast bowling not against spin. Our run rate against fast bowling is very bad but against spinners it is comparable or even better than most other teams. So in india we wont be as bad as you guys are making out. Although after Misbah and YK retire it would be a different situation.

 

[Mamoon]

This is an example of spinning a narrative without context. We batted suicidally against Bishoo in Dubai because our batsmen wanted quick 2nd inns runs to allow for enough time for bowl at WI.

We slogged our wickets away. This is one of the differences between Pakistan and India. India are much more ruthless when they have the upper hand. Take that spell out and Bishoo was otherwise negotiated comfortably. In Sharjah, the 4 wickets that Bishoo took in the 1st inns - two of which were from Misbah and Aslam attempting idiotic reverse sweeps and the two wickets were of Nawaz, who's a rubbish batsman, and Wahab. In the 2nd inns, it was Holder who did the damage.

I hardly call this as being exposed against spin. As for Herath, in the 2015 series he was dropped after failing in the first two Tests.

It is too easy and convenient to blame our approach for the wickets that Bishoo got. He took 18 wickets in 6 innings, just 3 less than Yasir whom we call the best Test spinner.

You can make such excuses for any team that falters against spin. Australian batsmen crumbled against the SL spinners last summer and more than 70% of the dismissals were due to poor shot-selection and their desire to get on top of the bowling and score quickly. Should we say that Australia is not weak against spin and poor shot-selection did them?

It seems like you haven't watched Herath bowl to Azhar and Shafiq much. He has always troubled them, and he was dropped because Sarfraz manhandled him and he is one of our three top players of spin.

You also ignored the spell of Tahir at Sharjah in 2013, the destruction at the hands of Herath in 2014 and Rashid in Abu Dhabi last year when he put England in match-winning position on the last day and England were minutes away from winning.

Our deficiencies against spin have been covered up by the fact that we have faced a lot of mediocre spinners like Lyon, Moeen, Craig (never mind the 7-fer) over the last few years which has covered up our weaknesses.

I repeat - we are massively overrated against spin and the likes of Azhar, Shafiq and Sami are not top players of spin by any means, and the likes of Younis, Misbah and Sarfraz have not faced anyone of Ashwin's quality in a long time, perhaps not since 2014 when Herath was in the zone and took 23 wickets in 4 innings.

To claim that we will 'smash' Ashwin or he will not trouble us is bordering on maximal delusion.

 

[Sin Nombre]

India's last 17 tests are
2 in SL
4 at home vs SA
4 in WI
3 at home vs NZ
4 at home vs Eng


Pakistan's record in the exact last tests.
2 in SL (1 win, 1 loss)
4 at "home" vs SA (1 win, 1 loss, 2 draws)
4 in WI (2 win, 2 loss)
3 at home vs NZ (1 win, 1 loss, 1 draw)
4 at home vs Eng (3 wins, 1 draw)


Overall record - 8 wins, 5 losses, 4 draws.


Going through these 17 games unbeaten is a very good achievement.

 

[Slog]

YK, Misbah and Sarfaraz wil make Ashwin cry

 

[Sin Nombre]

Very good chance for the record to end at 17 with Kohli bringing in Ishant and Mishra, for Bhuvi and and Jayant; and losing the toss again.

Half the team is garbage or unproven now.

 

[Metron]

Very good chance for the record to end at 17 with Kohli bringing in Ishant and Mishra, for Bhuvi and and Jayant; and losing the toss again.

Half the team is garbage or unproven now.

and we end at 17 tests for sure now, Ishant

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Losing a test here and there is fine as long as we keep winning series.

Target is to build a strong team with backups. Ishant, Mishra and Bhuvi will be needed down the line and need to have some confidence instilled in these players. No issue in trying them out for a dead rubber.

 

[Sin Nombre]

We should try out players with potential like a Pant or a Shardul Thakur (if he is any good).

No point going back to proven failures.