India hopes new Pakistan govt helps build 'terror-free South Asia' and Peace

[IMMY69]

They don't want bury it somewhere and then that place becoming a shrine.Remember Mumtaz Qadri?

Sure and I understand that but why not release photos, have some independent coroners examine the body?? Did they do any of this?
I mean do we have irrefutable proof that was killed in Pakistan or died in some cave in Afghanistan?

 

[IMMY69]

There are so many conspiracy theories out there..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden_death_conspiracy_theories

I’m don’t believe in any of them but after the way the western and Indian press have been portraying IK and getting behind a crook and murderer like Nawaz Sharif, i’m beginning to have doubts.

 

[PakLFC]

You’re just not getting the point. I wasn’t talking about an individual’s social life. I was talking about the value of your passport. How other countries see it. How their ‘system’ sees it. And you’re a US citizen right? I was talking about the difference between an Indian passport and a Pakistani passport since he made fun of Indian Muslims.




See, we don’t want you to accept anything. We know you will never accept it. But everybody knows what the reality is. There’s a reason why countries like US, France and Britain are with India on this. And the interrogation of Headley provided us with some startling facts.

Nawaz Sharif was very upset with your army because every attempt to improve relations with India were spoiled by them. That doesn’t make him an Indian stooge.

India has only one demand. Stop meddling in our internal matters. You can do that just by not funding terrorists and stop including them in your patrol parties to escort them to the LOC. We don’t want your side of Kashmir. We have some doubts about China’s intention of taking the CPEC through PoK but we don’t oppose the project as a whole.

China needs a consumer nation to dump the surplus produce it has accumulated over time. If they invest one billion, they will try to make four billion out of it. I don’t talk about it here because it’s none of my business. It’s something you guys should ponder about. But remember, when most developing countries like India are encouraging domestic production and industries, you guys are doing the opposite.

Similarly I do not care about what Zionist countries think when many have spoken against Indian as well. We know that India is supporting terrorism in Pak through Afghanistan. Now that the UN is near obsolete no one really cares about it. Pak will do what is right for itself. We have the likes of Kulbushan Yadav who has been singing like a bird in front of the ISI for years now. It is no coincidence that since his capture terrorism has greatly reduced in Pakistan coz he was a major player. Again, you will make every excuse under the sun to convince us that the now dead Sarbjit Singh and Kulbushan Yadav are not terrorists. Sarjit Singh another Indian terrorist after serving his punishment admitted to his crimes as well that I can show you if you want?

It does make Nawaz an Indian stooge when he has business in interests in India. When he did not say one word against terrorist Yadav rather invites the likes of Jindal and Modi to his personal family celebrations. Similarly, we demand that you stop poking your nose in to Baluchistan and KPK and accept that Kashmir is an outstanding issue since independence. If not then the freedom fighters are killing your soldiers in IoK not ours, no point in blaming us that will get you nowhere. You can have as many reservations about CPEC as you want but can do nothing to stop it.

I am sure Pak will get lots in return from the CPEC adventure now that we have a patriotic government in place. Admittedly, their were concerns under Nawaz however now I am now much more confident. You need not worry about the value of Chinese products when there are enough of them in India as well. Let us not even get in to whose loyal customer India is since ages coz we all know. Thanks for your concern over what we are encouraging or not for that matter. You worry about things like sanitation in India.

 

[PakLFC]

[MENTION=146346]Mr.Q[/MENTION]

It is not my fault that Indian Muslim's are always in the news for the wrong reasons. I am not making fun out of them but talking of facts. The Pak passport has gone through a lot of bashing over the years that is for the Pakistani government to correct. This is to be expected when there as a traitor like NS sitting in Islamabad but I don't see what this has to do with Indian Muslim's being killed for consuming beef!! No! I am not an American citizen at all.

 

[Mr.Q]

[MENTION=146346]Mr.Q[/MENTION]

It is not my fault that Indian Muslim's are always in the news for the wrong reasons. I am not making fun out of them but talking of facts. The Pak passport has gone through a lot of bashing over the years that is for the Pakistani government to correct. This is to be expected when there as a traitor like NS sitting in Islamabad but I don't see what this has to do with Indian Muslim's being killed for consuming beef!! No! I am not an American citizen at all.

What do you mean by wrong reasons? The modern Indian Muslim is a liberal, patriotic individual focused on his career and personal life. You can use this definition to define any Indian tbh. Yes in a way Indians tend to be selfish but that’s actually not such a bad thing.

Extremist views, irrespective of the religion gain grip among uneducated people in villages. You can’t use such examples to define an Indian Muslim or an Indian Hindu. Our liberal views and way of thinking makes us very flexible and I’d say that’s the reason why we’re able to succeed in any society or situation we find ourselves in.

 

[PakLFC]

What do you mean by wrong reasons? The modern Indian Muslim is a liberal, patriotic individual focused on his career and personal life. You can use this definition to define any Indian tbh. Yes in a way Indians tend to be selfish but that’s actually not such a bad thing.

Extremist views, irrespective of the religion gain grip among uneducated people in villages. You can’t use such examples to define an Indian Muslim or an Indian Hindu. Our liberal views and way of thinking makes us very flexible and I’d say that’s the reason why we’re able to succeed in any society or situation we find ourselves in.

By wrong reason I mean negative reasons like being whacked for eating beef, Babri-Ram Mandir fighting or Shahi Imam of Delhi saying Muslim's are being oppressed. Similarly Pakistanis are not being killed all over the country as the Indian media shows. We are not all religious nutcases rather million's of Pakistanis are not at all religious as well. You idea is liberal may not be like mines meaning sucking up to the majority community by abandoning your own culture. I call that an inferiority complex that Indian people are famous for.

 

[Mr.Q]

By wrong reason I mean negative reasons like being whacked for eating beef, Babri-Ram Mandir fighting or Shahi Imam of Delhi saying Muslim's are being oppressed. Similarly Pakistanis are not being killed all over the country as the Indian media shows. We are not all religious nutcases rather million's of Pakistanis are not at all religious as well. You idea is liberal may not be like mines meaning sucking up to the majority community by abandoning your own culture. I call that an inferiority complex that Indian people are famous for.

So you made fun of Indian Muslims because we get beaten up for eating beef? What’s our fault?
Actually this beef issue happens mainly in places where it’s banned. It’s freely available everywhere else. It’s a religious thing. In areas with Muslim majority, shops that sell pork are isolated. Nobody visits those shops for anything and they eventually stop selling pork .

When you freely mingle with others and join their celebrations you’re not losing anything. I’m not the kinda guy who’d hesitate to wish my friend a happy Diwali. I take part in their celebrations and eat all the sweets they bring. There is this solid kheer they make in temples in south India. It’s unbelievably delicious and somewhat rare I think. I ask my friends to bring it if they visit temples that serve that kheer. You may think a Muslim is abandoning his culture and traditions when he does all this. Culture or tradition isn’t religion. Culture is something that was formed over a period of time and it continues to evolve. All religions will fade away over time. But the culture, it’ll be here for a long period of time. The culture, the values and the traditions reside in our heart.

Inferiority complex is when all your friends belonging to different religions are celebrating something and you sit in a corner not taking part in it because you think you’d lose something!

 

[PakLFC]

So you made fun of Indian Muslims because we get beaten up for eating beef? What’s our fault?
Actually this beef issue happens mainly in places where it’s banned. It’s freely available everywhere else. It’s a religious thing. In areas with Muslim majority, shops that sell pork are isolated. Nobody visits those shops for anything and they eventually stop selling pork .

When you freely mingle with others and join their celebrations you’re not losing anything. I’m not the kinda guy who’d hesitate to wish my friend a happy Diwali. I take part in their celebrations and eat all the sweets they bring. There is this solid kheer they make in temples in south India. It’s unbelievably delicious and somewhat rare I think. I ask my friends to bring it if they visit temples that serve that kheer. You may think a Muslim is abandoning his culture and traditions when he does all this. Culture or tradition isn’t religion. Culture is something that was formed over a period of time and it continues to evolve. All religions will fade away over time. But the culture, it’ll be here for a long period of time. The culture, the values and the traditions reside in our heart.

Inferiority complex is when all your friends belonging to different religions are celebrating something and you sit in a corner not taking part in it because you think you’d lose something!

What do you mean making fun? I simply point out the facts that Indian Muslim's being beaten up for consuming beef. The rest of what you said like pork is irreverent to Muslim harassment in India. Yeah I see in India your Muslim's not only wish non-Muslim's on their holidays but have no hesitation in celebrating those events as well Hindu-Muslim marriages are also very common as well or perhaps you just want some rice pudding, glad Pak is not like that! Of course Islam has disallowed celebrating non-Muslim events or marrying non-Muslim's only that Indian Muslim's write their own rules Islam will never fade away over time that you should know if you're Muslim, what you talking about?

Inferiority complex is being insecure about your own identity thereby doing anything and everything to please other communities in the name of "tolerance". This is why Pakistan was formed so that we could live by our rules.

 

[Mr.Q]

What do you mean making fun? I simply point out the facts that Indian Muslim's being beaten up for consuming beef. The rest of what you said like pork is irreverent to Muslim harassment in India. Yeah I see in India your Muslim's not only wish non-Muslim's on their holidays but have no hesitation in celebrating those events as well Hindu-Muslim marriages are also very common as well or perhaps you just want some rice pudding, glad Pak is not like that! Of course Islam has disallowed celebrating non-Muslim events or marrying non-Muslim's only that Indian Muslim's write their own rules Islam will never fade away over time that you should know if you're Muslim, what you talking about?

Inferiority complex is being insecure about your own identity thereby doing anything and everything to please other communities in the name of "tolerance". This is why Pakistan was formed so that we could live by our rules.

A baton of culture, traditions and values has been passed onto me. I’ll pass it to the next generation. I am completely against religions dictating what you should do or shouldn’t do. What do you think the purpose of religions is? To limit us? Religions were created so that we can explore ourselves with the wisdom they give us. Islam for you is a set of practices. For me it’s a set of values. Huge difference. Here we don’t write our own rules, there are no rules.

For you to understand what I’m saying, you should have some close friends belonging to other religions. You’ll then understand what I’m talking about. Or you can visit Mumbai and see for yourself how things are here. It’s fun bro

People like [MENTION=146530]DeadBall[/MENTION] would be able to explain this in a better way.

 

[PakLFC]

A baton of culture, traditions and values has been passed onto me. I’ll pass it to the next generation. I am completely against religions dictating what you should do or shouldn’t do. What do you think the purpose of religions is? To limit us? Religions were created so that we can explore ourselves with the wisdom they give us. Islam for you is a set of practices. For me it’s a set of values. Huge difference. Here we don’t write our own rules, there are no rules.

For you to understand what I’m saying, you should have some close friends belonging to other religions. You’ll then understand what I’m talking about. Or you can visit Mumbai and see for yourself how things are here. It’s fun bro

People like [MENTION=146530]DeadBall[/MENTION] would be able to explain this in a better way.

You mean you will pass on your inferiority complex to future generations, very good Well why call yourself a Muslim if you don't believe in the Islamic perspective? Convert to another religion or become atheist or agnostic seeing you follow your DIY religion. Faith is suppose to lead with the ultimate aim of attaining salvation through paradise. It also comes with a moral code of conduct as well, faiths often clash on this. For you Islam is a combination of every religion where you most likely practise everything that the Deen of Allah disallows, that is how Indian Muslim's are!! In the name of tolerance and secularism you most likely celebrate every non-Muslim religious event and attend temples for some rice pudding as well to show your love for your country The rules of Islam are written by Allah, what kind of Muslim are you? A believer tries to follow as much of them as possible instead of sitting on the shelf like you are. I have many non-Muslim friends from every faith, no need to visit Mumbai for that! It is a lack of faith and pride in it that is your problem!

 

[PakLFC]

If India wants a terror free South Asia then it mist stop meddling in Pakistan through Afghanistan. It must stop sending terrorists like Sarbjit Singh, Surjeet Singh and Kulbushan Yadav. If not Pak will activate all it's spies inside India and set IoK on fire whenever it wants. India is responsible for all the terrorism within the region that there is absolutely no doubt about.

 

[cricketjoshila]

If India wants a terror free South Asia then it mist stop meddling in Pakistan through Afghanistan. It must stop sending terrorists like Sarbjit Singh, Surjeet Singh and Kulbushan Yadav. If not Pak will activate all it's spies inside India and set IoK on fire whenever it wants. India is responsible for all the terrorism within the region that there is absolutely no doubt about.

Give this threats to some country which actually cares about Pakistani threats. India doesnot. We laugh at such threats.

 

[PakLFC]

Give this threats to some country which actually cares about Pakistani threats. India doesnot. We laugh at such threats.

I laugh even more at India crying over Hafiz Saeed, Lakhvi, Kulbushan Yadav and even Zakir Naik! Have I missed anyone out from your long list?? I am not threatening but saying the facts. No one cares about your threats either, not even little Malaysia or Bangladesh for that matter We saw your threats after 26/111 when your army had a picnic at the border before going back home.

 

[PakLFC]

Oh yeah! India is also waiting for Masood Azhar and Dawood Ibrahim as well Keep waiting forever coz you are getting no one. The UN or America who India's loves so much couldn't care less India can not do a thing to get them and I love that!

 

[cricketjoshila]

I laugh even more at India crying over Hafiz Saeed, Lakhvi, Kulbushan Yadav and even Zakir Naik! Have I missed anyone out from your long list?? I am not threatening but saying the facts. No one cares about your threats either, not even little Malaysia or Bangladesh for that matter We saw your threats after 26/111 when your army had a picnic at the border before going back home.

Your country's leaders were running around the world complaining of Indian aggression on LoC. Any attack on LoC will be and is being avenged at the LoC. Next will be restricting the water supply. We are have just started to raise your costs.

Pakistan is seen as a terror financier in the world. Your economy is a basket. Pakistanis are on extreme vetting lists around the world. Posting smilies wont change that fact.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Oh yeah! India is also waiting for Masood Azhar and Dawood Ibrahim as well Keep waiting forever coz you are getting no one The UN or America who India's loves so much couldn't care less

You worry about where Pakistan will get its next bailout from. Kashkol time for you guys.

 

[PakLFC]

Your country's leaders were running around the world complaining of Indian aggression on LoC. Any attack on LoC will be and is being avenged at the LoC. Next will be restricting the water supply. We are have just started to raise your costs.

Pakistan is seen as a terror financier in the world. Your economy is a basket. Pakistanis are on extreme vetting lists around the world. Posting smilies wont change that fact.

I did not see anyone complaining at all so stop imagining! You obviously believe in what your media says. If you are killing our soldiers at the LOC then we are yours as well and you know that Tell me when you have stopped all water. I do not care about what the Zionist countries say that I have mentioned many times. If refusing to do what the west does makes us a terrorist supporter then so be it. These other problems can be dealt with, the worst is behind the great Pak. We are not western wannabe's like you lot are.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I did not see anyone complaining at all so stop imagining! You obviously believe in what your media says. If you are killing our soldiers at the LOC then we are yours as well and you know that Tell me when you have stopped all water. I do not care about what the Zionist countries say that I have mentioned many times. If refusing to do what the west does makes us a terrorist supporter then so be it. These other problems can be dealt with, the worst is behind the great Pak. We are not western wannabe's like you lot are.

You didnot see doesnot mean it didnot happen.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/inter...-Indian-‘aggression’/article16443045.ece/amp/

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/Pa...with-India-to-US/amp_articleshow/45199000.cms

https://www.dawn.com/news/1195076

We are just ratcheting up the escalation ladder. We have more resources and firepower to sustain this longer and take it higher.

Lol. FATF is zionist.lol. Remind me which western zionist country you are residing in right now? Thats fine. Isnt it? Hypocrisy.

Wannabe? Lol. We dont try to be stooges of other countries via SEATO or Ummah or CPEC. Lol.

The worse may just be beginning as US cuts down your funding and tightens the screws on financial institutions Pakistan's economy may go worse. On top of that we are raising your costs of the proxy war that you started in Kashmir, at the loc. Even the Afghans have started retaliating i hear.

 

[PakLFC]

You didnot see doesnot mean it didnot happen.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/inter...-Indian-‘aggression’/article16443045.ece/amp/

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/Pa...with-India-to-US/amp_articleshow/45199000.cms

https://www.dawn.com/news/1195076

We are just ratcheting up the escalation ladder. We have more resources and firepower to sustain this longer and take it higher.

Lol. FATF is zionist.lol. Remind me which western zionist country you are residing in right now? Thats fine. Isnt it? Hypocrisy.

Wannabe? Lol. We dont try to be stooges of other countries via SEATO or Ummah or CPEC. Lol.

The worse may just be beginning as US cuts down your funding and tightens the screws on financial institutions Pakistan's economy may go worse. On top of that we are raising your costs of the proxy war that you started in Kashmir, at the loc. Even the Afghans have started retaliating i hear.

I am looking forward to India "taking it higher" like you did after 26/11)) See firepower does not always win as we can see in Afghanistan where the yank's are getting a pasting. Needless to say that India is no America and Pak is no Afghanistan. I may be residing in any country but I act Pakistani unlike Indian people wearing back to front baseball caps, obsessed with dating culture or rejoicing over Priyanka Chopra marrying a white American. Of course you suck up to the Americans, Russians and Israel for weapons all the time so what you talking about here?

No the Afghans are not doing anything rather the Bangladeshis are invading you in thousands at the border even by your own admission. The USA can cut down on whatever it wants coz when the going gets tough the Pak gets going! What we need to do is bring back all the looted wealth in the UK etc of our corrupt politicians. They are willing to release it, just let the new government settle down then you'll see how we rock and roll! Pakistan is going nowhere other then upwards, insha Allah. The "Ummah" is not a Pakistan creation rather the Prophet of Allah said "Muslim's are one people". You won't know all of this being the confused man you are.

 

[PakLFC]

Pak is rightfully supporting the freedom fighters in IoK. If India thought they could get away with terrorism in Baluchistan and KPK through Afghanistan then think a zillion times. The ISI knows exactly how to punish India hard like its doing. I would not be surprised if the ISI are behind the Bangladeshi invasion of India at that side of their border, this is what many Indian political analysts say.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I am looking forward to India "taking it higher" like you did after 26/11)) See firepower does not always win as we can see in Afghanistan where the yank's are getting a pasting. Needless to say that India is no America and Pak is no Afghanistan. .

Your army certainly isnt looking forward to it.Thats why the whining to other countries.

US has achieved most of its goals in Afghanistan. The Taliban is on the run. They control the majority of territory. They have a major base from where they can keep an eye on Russia,China and Iran. What did you expect them to do? Put Afghanistan in tge Pacific and name it as a american state?.

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I may be residing in any country but I act Pakistani unlike Indian people wearing back to front baseball caps, obsessed with dating culture or rejoicing over Priyanka Chopra marrying a white American. .

Why will wearing a back to front baseball cap or dating anyone make anyone less Indian? You have no idea about India so stick to being what you know.

So no shame in enjoying the facilities of a Zionist nation?
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Of course you suck up to the Americans, Russians and Israel for weapons all the time so what you talking about here?
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Suck up? Sorry but we dont need to suck up to get weapons. Because unlike Pakistan which needs funds from US to help buy weapons we actually buy weapons with our own money.
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No the Afghans are not doing anything rather the Bangladeshis are invading you in thousands at the border even by your own admission.
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You need to look carefully at what Afghanistan is doing.

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1HM0HN

Illegal immigration isnt invasion, else Mexico is invading USA.

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The USA can cut down on whatever it wants coz when the going gets tough the Pak gets going!.

So where are you going to get the bailout from?
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What we need to do is bring back all the looted wealth in the UK etc of our corrupt politicians. They are willing to release it, just let the new government settle down then you'll see how we rock and roll! Pakistan is going nowhere other then upwards, insha Allah. .

That remains to be seen. Goodluck though.
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The "Ummah" is not a Pakistan creation rather the Prophet of Allah said "Muslim's are one people". You won't know all of this being the confused man you are.

?Can a Pakistani go to Kuwait visa free and work without a work permit and get citizenship? How many countries allow Pakistanis such freedom??

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pak is rightfully supporting the freedom fighters in IoK. If India thought they could get away with terrorism in Baluchistan and KPK through Afghanistan then think a zillion times. The ISI knows exactly how to punish India hard like its doing. I would not be surprised if the ISI are behind the Bangladeshi invasion of India at that side of their border, this is what many Indian political analysts say.

Let ISI handle terrorism at home and make Pakistan safe enough for a full cricket tour. Then you can boast about their capabilities of punishing India.

Right now India is making the war very expensive for a Pakistani economy thats already in the dire straits.

 

[PakLFC]

Your army certainly isnt looking forward to it.Thats why the whining to other countries.

US has achieved most of its goals in Afghanistan. The Taliban is on the run. They control the majority of territory. They have a major base from where they can keep an eye on Russia,China and Iran. What did you expect them to do? Put Afghanistan in tge Pacific and name it as a american state?.

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Why will wearing a back to front baseball cap or dating anyone make anyone less Indian? You have no idea about India so stick to being what you know.

So no shame in enjoying the facilities of a Zionist nation?
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Suck up? Sorry but we dont need to suck up to get weapons. Because unlike Pakistan which needs funds from US to help buy weapons we actually buy weapons with our own money.
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You need to look carefully at what Afghanistan is doing.

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1HM0HN

Illegal immigration isnt invasion, else Mexico is invading USA.

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So where are you going to get the bailout from?
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That remains to be seen. Goodluck though.
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?Can a Pakistani go to Kuwait visa free and work without a work permit and get citizenship? How many countries allow Pakistanis such freedom??

Rather it is India always crying about what is happening at the LOC or running to the UN. Pak supports the Afghan Taliban in case it missed you! They are seeking liberation from Afghanistan so why would Pak have a problem with that? Do you know the difference between the Pak and Afghan Taliban?

Seems that I touched a sore nerve with my American wannabe's comments which you are for sure. Yes trying to be someone else who you are not reveals how insecure you really are about your identity. No matter how hard you try to be American like you will never be like them! Priyanka just proving it again by marrying a white guy! I know exactly what Indian people are like and how you people act!

Point is that you do but weapons from the countries I mentioned. It is none of your business how we purchase ours as long as they scare the living daylights out of you lot which they do! Would be better to use your money to feed the 400 million people starving people on your streets and building toilets instead of hunting what you can't kill.

We know Afghanistan much better then you! It is a fact that terrorism has greatly been reduced in Pakistan since we took action against RAW backed terrorism. There are millions of reports online, talk facts here. We are talking about India/Bangladesh here although I agree that Mexico is also invading America like Bangladesh is India. So you are happy with an illegal invasion by Bangladesh and what facilities of a Zionist nation are you talking about? How can the USA have achieved it's goal's when the Taliban rules most of Afghanistan??

Pak will get the money somewhere that I am sure about. IK or any future government will not be disclosing such sensitive information to me in case it missed you. Come to think of it a close relative of mine is working in the Middle East, he went there on a Pakistani passport! I do not know about Kuwait however we do have a slight problem with that which will be sorted, relax!

 

[PakLFC]

Let ISI handle terrorism at home and make Pakistan safe enough for a full cricket tour. Then you can boast about their capabilities of punishing India.

Right now India is making the war very expensive for a Pakistani economy thats already in the dire straits.

Never mind about the expense of war that you are obsessed with when nukes are a great equaliser. Pak continue to punish India in IoK through various means. On a daily basis we see this on Indian news channels of Indian soldiers being killed or injured at the LOC or IoK. If that is not punishment that I don't know what is!!! ISI has made Pakistan a lot safer over the last two years or so however it will take time to convince touring sides for a Cricket series. I have no problems in playing in the Middle East for now. Our economy will survive, if you are so confident of us being unable to defend ourselves then your cheap military is free to test us. I still recall the ten demands or something India placed on Pak after 26/11 giving a seven days notice I think it was in their pathetic attempts to imitate America's warning to Afghanistan after 9/11. Pak just laughed back at India, you did nothing!

 

[PakLFC]

It was either after the Uri or Pathankot incident after which India again imitated the American programme "Inside the war room" that is broadcast on CNN. The set was exactly identical with a few former military men making cheap threats to Pak. With a big Pak map in the background these silly old men were talking off how war with will be according to them over playing their so called military might as if we will be doing nothing in return. Just a few days later when they saw Pak jets ready and prepared the Indian media started crying over "why does Pakistan want war when India wants peace?". I clearly remember this incident.