India is becoming the new Australia of the 2000s

[naseem]

Yeah but tests only.....in ODIs they r not invincible like the Aussies....no no not yet

 

[Napa]

Most of these fans were introduced to cricket through IPL. That Australian team was pretty ruthless. Anyone who has watched that team play live will not agree with the OP.

This was a field set by the Australians against a Zimbabwean... seam bowler David Mutendera. It would mean something if it was against a proper batsman.

 

[salahuddin10]

This india is a incredible team.Best in tests and second best in loi imo.But they will just be thrasesh by aus of 2000 in any corner of the world.They cant even make pitches like they made against eng because if avg eng cricketers can dismiss them than warne wouldnt have let them even score 100.But it isnt indias fault that Aus was just too op

 

[Indiafan]

This india is a incredible team.Best in tests and second best in loi imo.But they will just be thrasesh by aus of 2000 in any corner of the world.They cant even make pitches like they made against eng because if avg eng cricketers can dismiss them than warne wouldnt have let them even score 100.But it isnt indias fault that Aus was just too op

Not the same set of batsmen or bowlers who lost in England

 

[Indiafan]

 

[Ab Fan]

Clearly, the talent is there but the seniority culture is not helping for India across all formats.

Dhoni should have retired after 2015. Rahane and Pujara should be replaced with younger blood in test cricket. Captaincy needs to change. TTFs must be sacked before we wait for them to cost us a World tournament and then decide. We have seen several instances of what younger guns are bringing to the Indian current team as compared to the result we are getting from seniority culture. The Australia series was perfect example.

The Indian team has the talent and bench strength like Australia of 2000s but there has been serious mis-management of talent and hence the results aren't as good as it could be.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Talent is there.

But captaincy and management is horrible.

Humiliation is assured till we mend our ways.

Only ray of hope is our test side but even that gets tainted with horrible decisions.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Was funny to see youngsters smashing their way while Dhawan slowly reaching there.

I suppose newspaper headlines would read Captain Dhawan finished the chase.

Manish Pandey is beyond pathetic. How this hack gets paid high in IPL is a mystery to me.

 

[sharmaji]

I completely agree with you. It's a shame your words will not reach BCCI.

Unfortunately we are riddled with a superstar as a captain. He will do whatever he pleases and no one can say anything. Even when we haven't won any ICC trophy under his captaincy.

Clearly, the talent is there but the seniority culture is not helping for India across all formats.

Dhoni should have retired after 2015. Rahane and Pujara should be replaced with younger blood in test cricket. Captaincy needs to change. TTFs must be sacked before we wait for them to cost us a World tournament and then decide. We have seen several instances of what younger guns are bringing to the Indian current team as compared to the result we are getting from seniority culture. The Australia series was perfect example.

The Indian team has the talent and bench strength like Australia of 2000s but there has been serious mis-management of talent and hence the results aren't as good as it could be.

 

[MRSN]

It is amazing how their B team has absolutely decimated SL side on their home. This just tells yoh about how good India is as far as talent, skills or cricket system is concerned.

 

[gani999]

I completely agree with you. It's a shame your words will not reach BCCI.

Unfortunately we are riddled with a superstar as a captain. He will do whatever he pleases and no one can say anything. Even when we haven't won any ICC trophy under his captaincy.

I think that sustained pressure by the media/fans/social media will make the BCCI sit up and take notice. Stardom can only go so far.
M.S.Dhonis' retirement had a lot to do with this sustained pressure by the fans. He would have merrily continued playing were it not to be the case.

 

[King_Kohli]

We still struggling to find out a genuine seam bowling all rounder.

 

[Mahee]

As long as Kohli is there in the team, India cannot win any ICC trophies and any major test series away . Hope Ganguly realizes this and takes a brave decision. Give LoI captaincy to Rohit and test captaincy to Rahane. Then India would play even better than 2000s Australia.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Great team but this is an insult to that Australian team

 

[jnaveen1980]

These days India's B team does better than A team Even in Tests they did better. T20 guys like Natrajan, Sundar, Thakur won us a test.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

Great team but this is an insult to that Australian team

Insult how?

We've won in Aus, we've beaten SA in SA (when they were good). We're beating SL with our IPL kids. lol Please do explain how its an insult

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Insult how?

We've won in Aus, we've beaten SA in SA (when they were good). We're beating SL with our IPL kids. lol Please do explain how its an insult

3 ODI world cups in a row vs 0 tournament wins and 5 tournament chokes in 8 years. I don’t know man. You tell me?

 

[marlonbrowndo]

3 ODI world cups in a row vs 0 tournament wins and 5 tournament chokes in 8 years. I don’t know man. You tell me?

Correction. That’s 6 chokes*

 

[Cricfan4eva]

3 ODI world cups in a row vs 0 tournament wins and 5 tournament chokes in 8 years. I don’t know man. You tell me?

I don't think anyone is suggesting here this is the greatest ODI team ever. The depth of this Indian team is being compared to that of Australia of 99-07. Which is a fair comparison.

 

[Protea Fan]

As long as Kohli is there in the team, India cannot win any ICC trophies and any major test series away . Hope Ganguly realizes this and takes a brave decision. Give LoI captaincy to Rohit and test captaincy to Rahane. Then India would play even better than 2000s Australia.

One more failed series and rahane's carrer is done n dusted

And people here speaking about making him captain!

 

[Cricfan4eva]

These days India's B team does better than A team Even in Tests they did better. T20 guys like Natrajan, Sundar, Thakur won us a test.

I wouldn't call this a proper B team really. Some of them merit selection in first XI but aren't because selectors persistence with a few has-beens. SKY should be one of the first few names in our T20/ODI first XI, given how we've been so frustrated in our search for a no.4 for past 5 years.

Kishan should already be a backup for Pant in main squad.

Shaw will have to wait it out till Rohit/Dhawan retire in ODIs or lose form but he should be playing ahead of Gill in tests like right now.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Overall simply as a cricket power, India might have even left Australia well behind on terms of the health of its cricket, the anu dance of resources at their disposal and with Cricket being a passion India looks set to continue being a mega force in Cricket for decades to come.

But but but

The Aussies , man, they had the mentality of am assassin! Which sad to say India just doesnt have.

The ability of the Aussies to completely hammer their opponents in the final not once but like 4 of the last 5 finals, that is just ridiculous.

In 2011, I was convinced that Aussies will never be THAT team anymore but they surprised me in 2015 and all it took was one 6 and a half feet tall left armer pacer bowling 155 kph unplayable yorkers. Even in their not so great phase, the Aussies can pull off miracles through such individual brilliance.. India doesn't have that. With all that talent in the batting dept at least, we should have been able to close down matches showcasing our batting power but we never did that. That's where we will never be able to match Australia's legacy.

Other than that, you can count on this nation to continue being a SF contender for decades ro come. Might even scratch their way to a few trophies

 

[King_Kohli]

- No indian player managed to score a 100 against monnow SL bowling in this series.
- Second match was a fluke win.
- Our next generation batsmen are overrated, no temperament. May be they are good for T20's but not for
Tests and ODI's
- Our second XI bowling is garbage.

And we are saying India is becoming the new Australia of the 2000s

 

[par]

- No indian player managed to score a 100 against monnow SL bowling in this series.
- Second match was a fluke win.
- Our next generation batsmen are overrated, no temperament. May be they are good for T20's but not for
Tests and ODI's
- Our second XI bowling is garbage.

And we are saying India is becoming the new Australia of the 2000s

Remember that there are 20 players, not the usual 15 players, in Indian squad in England.

Only players who fall outside of these squad were sent to SL.

In SL also there are 20 Indian players.

 

[OMB]

Remember that there are 20 players, not the usual 15 players, in Indian squad in England.

Only players who fall outside of these squad were sent to SL.

In SL also there are 20 Indian players.

For a side to be called as next Australia, even the second string has to have some excellent performances. Most guys failed to capitalize on their chances

 

[Ab Fan]

For a side to be called as next Australia, even the second string has to have some excellent performances. Most guys failed to capitalize on their chances

I still feel we have positives to take from this performance.

Shaw and Kishan are inconsistent but match winners on their day. They will work very well in a top 3 of Rohit and Kohli.

SuryaKumar is a positive addition too for middle order. Now, we have Pant, KL, Iyer and SKY for filling the middle order place.

Deepak Chahar and Rahul Chahar are good additions too.

Now obviously guys like Rana, Gotham are not international standards and it was pointless giving that many chances.

 

[par]

For a side to be called as next Australia, even the second string has to have some excellent performances. Most guys failed to capitalize on their chances

My point is that the team in SL at present is not our second string team. Maybe a third string.

 

[OMB]

Far from being next aussie,
First we have to beat England in shorter formats
and
beat NZ in tests. Though with due respect to NZ, that WTC win seems a one off victory and don't think they can dominate the world, probably may not repeat it against an Indian test side in proper series.

 

[Ab Fan]

Far from being next aussie,
<B>First we have to beat England in shorter formats</B>
and
beat NZ in tests. Though with due respect to NZ, that WTC win seems a one off victory and don't think they can dominate the world, probably may not repeat it against an Indian test side in proper series.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_cricket_team_in_India_in_2020–21

3-2 T20s
2-1 ODIs

 

[Savak]

That Australian side gave teams nightmares and they won every where unlike the present Indian team which has lost in England, New Zealand and South Africa. No comparison

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

That Australian side gave teams nightmares and they won every where unlike the present Indian team which has lost in England, New Zealand and South Africa. No comparison

True. They also loved to win series and tournaments everywhere. Winning 3 back to back ODI world cups shows how good they were. In my opinion performances against that Australian team should be given more weightage than the performances against present Australian team.

 

[rockyboy2018]

Seems like living in a delusion is a pastime of South Asians. That team was winning matches everywhere not just at home.

 

[Hitman]

We’re not even 30% of that Aussie team.

 

[shortbread]

England will put India in it's place within a couple of weeks time. Make no mistake this is a revenge series.

No more resting, rotating, chopping and changing, ECB have announce a full strength squad.

 

[sam_ahm]

Was funny to see youngsters smashing their way while Dhawan slowly reaching there.

I suppose newspaper headlines would read Captain Dhawan finished the chase.

Manish Pandey is beyond pathetic. How this hack gets paid high in IPL is a mystery to me.

LOL, SRH fans have to deal with Manish Pandey as their main Indian batsman mate, imagine what we go through

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

LOL, SRH fans have to deal with Manish Pandey as their main Indian batsman mate, imagine what we go through &#55357;&#56834;&#55357;&#56834;

lol.

Poor you.

Sad sad batting lineup,

 

[Major]

Indians try really hard to compare themselves to west indies and australia im terms of dominance.

Sorry to say, india has not dominated world cricket. Well not in the way that australia and west indies they did

Those teams dominated whole decades and did not allow anyone to win against them.

I do not believe an icc tournament is the only requirement to be considered as achievenent. If you have dominated cricket that counts to.

India plays a brand of cricket where they dominate at home and show nothing in overseas. They lose icc matches because of this strategy as on days teams that have played cricket on difficult pitches would be able to adjust better to different pitches.

Just like pakistan did in the ct final of 2017, or new zeland did against india in the world cup.

Even in the world test championship, india botlled due to their habir of not bothering to practise playing on challenging wickets. They have this mentality that if england or australia produces suxh wicket we will produce our own dust bowl which does them no good.

This was one of the reasons why kohli was crying anout how the icc champions final should be based on a series instead of a match

Currently, we have england dominating limiting overs cricket as they play a brand of cricket where everyone in the eleven can start hitting from ball one. They have moved from the concept of playing a power hitter or finisher at 6 down and let anchors playin the middle. They have a strategy that goes along with modern day cricket.

Kohli could achieve better results if he focuses ona strategy that helps them win everywhere. They choke in icc tournaments and get exposed in series overseas.

Ganguly probably didnt win an icc tournament yet he created a team that fought well and helped shape a team for dhoni and co

 

[sam_ahm]

Indians try really hard to compare themselves to west indies and australia im terms of dominance.

Sorry to say, india has not dominated world cricket. Well not in the way that australia and west indies they did

Those teams dominated whole decades and did not allow anyone to win against them.

I do not believe an icc tournament is the only requirement to be considered as achievenent. If you have dominated cricket that counts to.

India plays a brand of cricket where they dominate at home and show nothing in overseas. They lose icc matches because of this strategy as on days teams that have played cricket on difficult pitches would be able to adjust better to different pitches.

Just like pakistan did in the ct final of 2017, or new zeland did against india in the world cup.

Even in the world test championship, india botlled due to their habir of not bothering to practise playing on challenging wickets. They have this mentality that if england or australia produces suxh wicket we will produce our own dust bowl which does them no good.

This was one of the reasons why kohli was crying anout how the icc champions final should be based on a series instead of a match

Currently, we have england dominating limiting overs cricket as they play a brand of cricket where everyone in the eleven can start hitting from ball one. They have moved from the concept of playing a power hitter or finisher at 6 down and let anchors playin the middle. They have a strategy that goes along with modern day cricket.

Kohli could achieve better results if he focuses ona strategy that helps them win everywhere. They choke in icc tournaments and get exposed in series overseas.

Ganguly probably didnt win an icc tournament yet he created a team that fought well and helped shape a team for dhoni and co

This is a very good post. I have similar views that preparing extreme dust bowls is not doing us any good. Moreover we would win home series even without preparing such tracks, so it baffles me as to why we do it? That's absolute rubbish.

 

[MP2011]

Only losers sook about pitches, you play on any kind of pitches that are served to you unless they're dangerous.

That's the beauty of test cricket, it should test you in varying conditions. Spin is as much part of cricket as seam and swing are.

Seaming pitches are fine while pitches taking turn aren't! This rubbish is being sprouted by teams which historically don't have good enough spinners in their ranks.

 

[Major]

This is a very good post. I have similar views that preparing extreme dust bowls is not doing us any good. Moreover we would win home series even without preparing such tracks, so it baffles me as to why we do it? That's absolute rubbish.

In the past india did not have the bowlers, but now they do. Infact, we even saw ishant sharma get his name on the honor boards of lords.

Just for the sake of the home dominance they have done more damage to themselves.
Kohli has the power but india needs someone else that could speak and prepare pitches that helps them abroad

 

[OMB]

In the past india did not have the bowlers, but now they do. Infact, we even saw ishant sharma get his name on the honor boards of lords.

Just for the sake of the home dominance they have done more damage to themselves.
Kohli has the power but india needs someone else that could speak and prepare pitches that helps them abroad

India should prepare spinning tracks suited to their bowling because this is what every nation does. It is a perfect part of test cricket.
Also unfair to blame Kohli as he has given more weightage to pace bowlers than his predecessors.
Though I agree that in a 5 test series India could do with one bouncy track to encourage our pace bowlers.

 

[street cricketer]

In the past india did not have the bowlers, but now they do. Infact, we even saw ishant sharma get his name on the honor boards of lords.

Just for the sake of the home dominance they have done more damage to themselves.
Kohli has the power but india needs someone else that could speak and prepare pitches that helps them abroad

Interesting that we always hear about India needing to prepare pace friendly wickets for them to compete in SENA countries but never about the likes of Australia, England, NZ or South Africa needing to prepare spin friendly wickets for them to become competitive in asia. Any idea why that may be?

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

India don't need spinning tracks anymore, they can whitewash even England and New Zealand with Shami & Siraj.

 

[Ab Fan]

Indian Cricket Predictions for 2020-21:-

Pant made the Australian series his very own in 2020-21 series.

For KL, as I predicted already, the England series could well be his series-defining performance and if India wins it, that will be icing on cake.

Post the England series, as we move to World T20, Pandya can be India's biggest match winner, helping his team to win a World T20 tournament. Before every high, a low must happen and Pandya's Sri Lanka tour was a low point from which he has to recover now.

These are brave predictions but if you look at it from one way, there is a very high chance of this happening. With these performances, KL, Pant and Pandya will transition themselves from good prospects to among the best in the world

 

[sam_ahm]

Only losers sook about pitches, you play on any kind of pitches that are served to you unless they're dangerous.

That's the beauty of test cricket, it should test you in varying conditions. Spin is as much part of cricket as seam and swing are.

Seaming pitches are fine while pitches taking turn aren't! This rubbish is being sprouted by teams which historically don't have good enough spinners in their ranks.

Pitches turning from day 1 with puff of dust coming off with each ball are not suitable for cricket because with time they keep getting even worse and become impossible for batting, It does not test your skills but it makes batting a bit of a lottery, and as a bowler all you have to do is just bowl and wickets will come. Seaming tracks eventually flatten out, which is why people don't complain so often about them.

India did not lose a single home test series in the 90s, those were spinning wickets but none like ones turning square from day 1.

People can have opinions but I don't agree with this sort of strategy, moreover I don't think it is doing us any good.

 

[Major]

India should prepare spinning tracks suited to their bowling because this is what every nation does. It is a perfect part of test cricket.
Also unfair to blame Kohli as he has given more weightage to pace bowlers than his predecessors.
Though I agree that in a 5 test series India could do with one bouncy track to encourage our pace bowlers.

India will dominate that game which has a spin track. No doubt about it.

But the problem is, for the sake of dominating at home they lose out on more series away even when they have a talented pace attack that can help them win.

Indians think they dominate cricket, when infact they are no where the dominance of west indies, australia or even current day england.

If india wants to claim dominance they need to be able ppay dominant crixket and the only way to do that is by having wickets where they could learn to play overseas aswell

 

[Major]

Interesting that we always hear about India needing to prepare pace friendly wickets for them to compete in SENA countries but never about the likes of Australia, England, NZ or South Africa needing to prepare spin friendly wickets for them to become competitive in asia. Any idea why that may be?

Look. Teams like australia england, south africa or new zealand will only get to face spin attack when they go to india or to uae.

Just for 1 or 2 opposition they cant overhaul their pitches.

Plus every pitch and wicket is a kind where you would need 3-4 pacers.

Unless and until an opposition plays 4-5 spinners on a track only than would such a requirement be needed.

India can continue to keep making day 1 turners, but that does more harm to their batting.

Their batsmen never get to learn how to play on a pacey wicket. Thus, indians cannot claim that they dominate world cricket.

 

[Smudger]

Look. Teams like australia england, south africa or new zealand will only get to face spin attack when they go to india or to uae.

Just for 1 or 2 opposition they cant overhaul their pitches.

Plus every pitch and wicket is a kind where you would need 3-4 pacers.

Unless and until an opposition plays 4-5 spinners on a track only than would such a requirement be needed.

India can continue to keep making day 1 turners, but that does more harm to their batting.

Their batsmen never get to learn how to play on a pacey wicket. Thus, indians cannot claim that they dominate world cricket.

This analysis seem strange considering India beat Aus on back on back tours. I dont think you can chase 330 on final day if you cant bat on pacey pitches
Ind scored 600 in Sydney against the first choice Aus bowling attack. Ind is not on the same level as Aus if 2000s but they are still an excellent test side and comfortably the best test side of this era. Bear in mind I am a Pakistani. So its an unbiased opinion

 

[Major]

This analysis seem strange considering India beat Aus on back on back tours. I dont think you can chase 330 on final day if you cant bat on pacey pitches
Ind scored 600 in Sydney against the first choice Aus bowling attack. Ind is not on the same level as Aus if 2000s but they are still an excellent test side and comfortably the best test side of this era. Bear in mind I am a Pakistani. So its an unbiased opinion

You are right, but my discussion is regarding dominance

 

[street cricketer]

Look. Teams like australia england, south africa or new zealand will only get to face spin attack when they go to india or to uae.

Just for 1 or 2 opposition they cant overhaul their pitches.

Plus every pitch and wicket is a kind where you would need 3-4 pacers.

Unless and until an opposition plays 4-5 spinners on a track only than would such a requirement be needed.

India can continue to keep making day 1 turners, but that does more harm to their batting.

Their batsmen never get to learn how to play on a pacey wicket. Thus, indians cannot claim that they dominate world cricket.

India are hardly a patch on the great Aussie team or the West Indian team.

But they're comfortably the best test side in the world, the wtc final result notwithstanding. Also, India don't have a lot of trouble on pacy wickets given they've won in Australia twice. They even won a test on the quickest wicket I've ever seen, at the Wanderers in 2017. That test was close to getting abandoned for the wicket being dangerous.

India's weakness is a seaming wicket that has lateral movement, not a wicket that has pace and bounce in it.