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Ahmedabad: - Who is Ahmed?
Moradabad: - Who is Murad?
Aurangabad: - Who is Aurangzeb?
Faizabad: - Who is Faiz?
Farooqabad: - Who is Farooq?
Adilabad: - Who is Adil?
Sahibabad- Who is Sahib?
Hyderabad: - Who is Haider?
Secunderabad: - Who is Sikander?
Firozabad: - Who is Firoz?
Mustafabad: - Who is Mustafa?
Ahmednagar: - Who is Ahmed?
Tughlaqabad: - Who is Tughlaq?
Fathabad: - Who is Fateh?
Usmanabad: - Who is Usman?
Baktiyarpur: - Who is Baktiyar?
Mahmudabad: - Who is Mahmud?
Muzaffarpur and Muzaffar Nagar: - Who is Muzaffar?
Burhanpur: -Who is Burhan?


Who are all these? These are the people who destroyed our culture, destroyed our temples, corrupted our idols and converted Hindus to Islam.

This is their contribution in the history of India. Why do we remember them by naming cities after them?

These cities should change names .

:kp
 
we should review but any person with positive influence should be left out .They should be good indicator.

I have mainly 2 issues with ur list

Aurangzeb-definitely one of the world's top league religious bigot
Baktiyarpur -This is the one named after general who destroyed Nalanda university and named the place after himself.so that's the most stupid thing to stay.

Tuglaq : i wish to let it stay for the future generations to know epitome of wrong strategies,wrong tactics and foolishness.
 
You want to erase Muslim names from cities?

Well, the Home Minister has to approve that

Oh wait, his name is Amit Shah, and ‘Shah’ is a Persian title used by Muslim rulers!

Maybe start by renaming him first before worrying about cities :zaka
 
Major said:
Oh wait, his name is Amit Shah, and ‘Shah’ is a Persian title used by Muslim rulers!

Maybe start by renaming him first before worrying about cities :zaka
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Good point, he should rename himself from Amit Shah to Amit Krishnamoorthy or something.
 
RexRex said:
Good point, he should rename himself from Amit Shah to Amit Krishnamoorthy or something.
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Im actually wondering what is OP gonna rename himself, as his own name also has a muslim link to it.

This is why OP should never throw stones when he himself lives in a glass house yourself.
 
I think we need to stop with this renaming fascination unless the places were named after tyrants or historical villains.

I understand that radicalised Islamists have pushed peace loving Sanatanis really hard in the last few decades, but we should be better and not act as petty.
 
If renaming helps revising history and healing generational trauma then yes please! :afridi
 
Slim said:
If renaming helps revising history and healing generational trauma then yes please! :afridi
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Your supportiveness in this regard is much appreciated. I hope more good Muslims like you can emerge and be part of this change.
 
Changing names is gonna solve all the problems???? NAY

I think human beings have much bigger challenges to address rather than engaging in such a shenanigans.
 
RexRex said:
Good point, he should rename himself from Amit Shah to Amit Krishnamoorthy or something.
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Shah surname in Gujarati is derived from the Sah meaning merchant or the prakrit word sahu. Its widely used by Sahu Jain community.

It has nothing to do with Persian Shah.
 
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Pakistanis & Leftists: Changing city names is so pointless. Will changing names solve the real world problems?

Also Pakistanis: Let’s discuss the beautiful stories of people converting to Islam. Let’s celebrate heroes like our captain Mohd Rizwan who spread the word of God. Because this will obviously solve real life problems.
 
Hitman said:
Too many issues we have plaguing our country. That should be our priority. I have no time for those subhuman invaders though.
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Do you know how Greece Spain took care of the history of such invaders?

What China does to Mongol history?
 
cricketjoshila said:
Do you know how Greece Spain took care of the history of such invaders?

What China does to Mongol history?
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Yep! I do know. To hell with those subhuman pieces of garbage who invaded my country. Trust me, I hate the British Raj even more than them, from the core of my gut.
 
Pakistanis & Leftists: Changing city names is so pointless. Will changing names solve the real world problems?

Also Pakistanis: Hagia Sophia is a mosque again. Wow
 
Bhaijaan said:
Pakistanis & Leftists: Changing city names is so pointless. Will changing names solve the real world problems?

Also Pakistanis: Hagia Sophia is a mosque again. Wow
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The celebration here when Hagia Sofia was converted to a mosque, posters were saying Turkey is going back to its Islamic roots.

All this noise about secularism multiculturalism minority rights is a charade they carry out when they are in minority.

This works in the West who are new to this, won't work in India because we are very aware what happens.
 
Bhaijaan said:
A review should be made about who these Muslims were and what was their contribution to this region. If they’re found to be bigots and terrorists kind of people, erase their name.
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Who would carry out this review? In a BJP hindutva era let me guess... :unsure:

Consider them erased in the not too distant future.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Who would carry out this review? In a BJP hindutva era let me guess... :unsure:

Consider them erased in the not too distant future.
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This is an important question.

It should be an impartial review carried out by a highly qualified committee of atheists appointed by the Supreme Court of Bharat
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Who would carry out this review? In a BJP hindutva era let me guess... :unsure:

Consider them erased in the not too distant future.
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Invaders should be erased. If British names can be, why not Muslims. Greeks and Spanish have done it.
 
cricketjoshila said:
The celebration here when Hagia Sofia was converted to a mosque, posters were saying Turkey is going back to its Islamic roots.

All this noise about secularism multiculturalism minority rights is a charade they carry out when they are in minority.

This works in the West who are new to this, won't work in India because we are very aware what happens.
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Some Pakistanis on here did object to Hagia Sophia being converted to mosque iirc, it's the irrational ones that celebrated it.
 
Bhaijaan said:
This is an important question.

It should be an impartial review carried out by a highly qualified committee of atheists appointed by the Supreme Court of Bharat
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There is no need for it. Hindus should stop being insecure about their past and embrace the complex history of their country.

What should be done is .. eliminate any CURRENT appeasement of minority communities, which is what BJP's chief longstanding grievance against the Congress party was.
 
RexRex said:
There is no need for it. Hindus should stop being insecure about their past and embrace the complex history of their country.

What should be done is .. eliminate any CURRENT appeasement of minority communities, which is what BJP's chief longstanding grievance against the Congress party was.
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Embrace tyrants and let them be glorified? Who does that?
 
cricketjoshila said:
Embrace tyrants and let them be glorified? Who does that?
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Tyrants like Ashoka are glorified by India. It's time to remove the chakra from the Indian flag and rename Ashoka University to say ... Adi Shankara University.
 
RexRex said:
Tyrants like Ashoka are glorified by India. It's time to remove the chakra from the Indian flag and rename Ashoka University to say ... Adi Shankara University.
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Ashoka reformed. That's why he is glorified.
 
RexRex said:
Tyrants like Ashoka are glorified by India. It's time to remove the chakra from the Indian flag and rename Ashoka University to say ... Adi Shankara University
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AI agents say an outright say no to Ashoka being evil or a tyrant, this is something you just made up. But the principle is correct, nothing evil shouldn't be celebrated in preent.
 
Just another cowturd suggestion of the day from Sanghis. "Aaj mein kechai Muschalmano say baadla lo" usual lol

Mumbai should be changed to Aurangzebad, named after great leader Aurangzeb who has left generational trauma on Santantintong Sanghis. The only history of any significance in India is of Muslim/Moghuls, while those Hindutva nobodies of 5000 years who were busy slitting each other's throat and never united and too weak, no wonder have nothing of significance in India named after them
 
RexRex said:
There is no need for it. Hindus should stop being insecure about their past and embrace the complex history of their country.

What should be done is .. eliminate any CURRENT appeasement of minority communities, which is what BJP's chief longstanding grievance against the Congress party was.
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I know where you’re coming from and at one point this is where i stood too. This was when i had spent majority of my time in cities with almost no issues with muslim community.

A lot of liberal Bharatiyas who have lived in very peaceful cities in Bharat or abroad cannot relate to the issues faced by people in problematic cities. When i saw the issues on the ground, that’s when i also learnt a lot of things about life and about our country.

The idea of Bharat really exists because the overwhelming majority of this country is extremely peace loving, supportive of minorities. I think a strong case can be made that if it wasn’t for muslims majority of the Hindus in Bharat would have already become Atheists. Hinduism’s revival in Bharat is more of a military response to expansionist muslims rather than a spiritual one arguably.
 
Hitman said:
Too many issues we have plaguing our country. That should be our priority. I have no time for those subhuman invaders though.
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If those invaders were the way you describe, you wouldn't have 1.4 billion Hindus still in India today. If they really wanted they would have easily converted each and every one of your generational weak ancestry. Make peace with the fact your ancestors were ruled by Muslims and move on. Do you ever see Indian Muslims or subcontinent Muslims crying over Hindu Leaders of the past? Modern era butchers like Modi are exception. Sanghis need to pull their head out of cowturd and focus on things that matter like wide spread poverty, no toilets, hunger infested wider spread etc in their third world country instead of attacking minorities and another faith for your daily pleasure
 
Kriketer said:
If those invaders were the way you describe, you wouldn't have 1.4 billion Hindus still in India today. If they really wanted they would have easily converted each and every one of your generational weak ancestry. Make peace with the fact your ancestors were ruled by Muslims and move on. Do you ever see Indian Muslims or subcontinent Muslims crying over Hindu Leaders of the past? Modern era butchers like Modi are exception. Sanghis need to pull their head out of cowturd and focus on things that matter like wide spread poverty, no toilets, hunger infested wider spread etc in their third world country instead of attacking minorities and another faith for your daily pleasure
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If we were weak we would have converted. We were not. We kept fighting to keep our religion and culture. Those who were weak converted.

Make peace with the fact that such invaders can be glorified in Pakistan and not India and pakistanis will be able to do nothing when the names of these invaders are erased.

Pakistanis need to mind their own business and tackle problems like perennial begging around the world, terrorism, extremism, no toilets, crashing economy, public crushed under army boots etc etc and not advise others.

Its laughable when pakistanis talk about minority rights. Go look at pakistan.

We will keep erasing symbols of glorification of these tyrants in our country and there's nothing you or your country can do about it.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
What did you erase of British names? Can you give some examples
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1. The Viceregal Lodge → Rashtrapati Niwas (Shimla)

2. King George’s Medical College (KGMC) → Chhatrapati Shahuji Maharaj Medical University (Lucknow)

3. Victoria Terminus (VT) → Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj Terminus (CSMT) (Mumbai)

4. Connaught Place → Rajiv Chowk (Delhi)


5. Elphinstone Road Station → Prabhadevi Station (Mumbai)


Universities and Educational Institutions


1. Delhi College → Zakir Husain Delhi College

2. Queen Mary’s College → Maharani College (Jaipur)


Parks & Gardens
1. Victoria Park → Lohia Park (Lucknow)

2. Cubbon Park → Sri Chamarajendra Park (Bengaluru)

Roads and Avenues

1. Curzon Road → Kasturba Gandhi Marg (Delhi)


2. King’s Way → Rajpath (Delhi) → Further renamed to Kartavya Path (2022)

3. Queens Road → J.C. Bose Road (Kolkata)
 
Kriketer said:
Just another cowturd suggestion of the day from Sanghis. "Aaj mein kechai Muschalmano say baadla lo" usual lol

Mumbai should be changed to Aurangzebad, named after great leader Aurangzeb who has left generational trauma on Santantintong Sanghis. The only history of any significance in India is of Muslim/Moghuls, while those Hindutva nobodies of 5000 years who were busy slitting each other's throat and never united and too weak, no wonder have nothing of significance in India named after them
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Correct.

Before Mughals and other Islamic empires, Indian subcontinent was quite irrelevant and boring. It was divided into small kingdoms. There was nothing called India.
 
Bhaijaan said:
1. The Viceregal Lodge → Rashtrapati Niwas (Shimla)

2. King George’s Medical College (KGMC) → Chhatrapati Shahuji Maharaj Medical University (Lucknow)

3. Victoria Terminus (VT) → Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj Terminus (CSMT) (Mumbai)

4. Connaught Place → Rajiv Chowk (Delhi)


5. Elphinstone Road Station → Prabhadevi Station (Mumbai)


Universities and Educational Institutions


1. Delhi College → Zakir Husain Delhi College

2. Queen Mary’s College → Maharani College (Jaipur)


Parks & Gardens
1. Victoria Park → Lohia Park (Lucknow)

2. Cubbon Park → Sri Chamarajendra Park (Bengaluru)

Roads and Avenues

1. Curzon Road → Kasturba Gandhi Marg (Delhi)


2. King’s Way → Rajpath (Delhi) → Further renamed to Kartavya Path (2022)

3. Queens Road → J.C. Bose Road (Kolkata)
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Roads and avenues I can understand somewhat, but if the British established universities or built establishments, is it not rewriting history by putting Hindu names to structures put in place by the British?
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Roads and avenues I can understand somewhat, but if the British established universities or built establishments, is it not rewriting history by putting Hindu names to structures put in place by the British?
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It’s purely the native peoples call. Naming of institutions or cities or roads is a privilege and it’s not forever.

There are many places named after British who really did something here for the community and most of their names are kept intact in their honour to this day.

Some people are trying to make this a Hindu vs Muslim thing sadly showing their own mentality when clearly people are saying they’re absolutely fine if things are named after muslims who had a positive impact on the society like APJ Kalam.

Bharat in 2025 is not fine with giving any honour to muslims in history who were involved in persecution against our community and it’s our right.

This is a global phenomena and people on this very forum celebrated when it happened in Turkey, Egypt etc. When the blacks were opposing Gandhi monuments worldwide. But now they’re showing their double standards.
 
People here celebrated when Bangladeshi Islamists were destroying Hindu temples in Bangladesh and even destroying monuments of their own freedom struggle leaders.
 
Rajdeep said:
100% agree brother. My logic is simple...muslims did not wanted to co-exist with Hindus and wanted a seperate country which they got. Now why should we want streets and cities in Hindustan to be named after muslims? This hypocrisy must die
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So India's history should be rewritten because Pakistan got created? :unsure:
 
IAJ said:
Go and change the names, why are you crying about it here lol?
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They seek dopamine by putting it out there in front of Pakistanis and Muslims here, on a Pakistani forum.

They love playing the victim card about the Moghuls, and Aurangzeb did this and that. They need to get over it. It’s long gone. British enslaved them and looted trillions, splitting their nation apart, leaving them in huge mess and made them poorer.
 
The only place where changing a name actually helps is this forum, where people frequently change usernames and identities just to take shots at older members that too with overconfidence. 🤡 :inti

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cricketjoshila said:
Ashoka reformed. That's why he is glorified.
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Hikaru said:
AI agents say an outright say no to Ashoka being evil or a tyrant, this is something you just made up. But the principle is correct, nothing evil shouldn't be celebrated in preent.
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The selective outrage is phunny. If Ashoka was a muslim king who lived in the 16th century, engaged in mass slaughter & later repented, I doubt @cricketjoshila and others on here would've been so forgiving.
 
Remove the chakra from the Indian flag, I want the flag to be a symbol of purity !
 
RexRex said:
The selective outrage is phunny. If Ashoka was a muslim king who lived in the 16th century, engaged in mass slaughter & later repented, I doubt @cricketjoshila and others on here would've been so forgiving.
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I mean I would happily show the same outrage for Hindu kings, my point was Ashoka specific. Conquering and being a tyrant are two different things, and he wasn't an evil tyrant by any account.

A better example and I am sure @cricketjoshila or others won't be contradicting you.
 
Bhaijaan said:
A lot of liberal Bharatiyas who have lived in very peaceful cities in Bharat or abroad cannot relate to the issues faced by people in problematic cities. When i saw the issues on the ground, that’s when i also learnt a lot of things about life and about our country.
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There might be legitimate concerns on your part, sure.

But what does issues on the ground have to do with this changing of muslim names to hindu ? I don't understand the psychology behind that. Are you saying the indian muslims of today are trying to emulate Aurangzeb and thus all his symbols must be removed as a pre-emptive measure ?
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
So India's history should be rewritten because Pakistan got created? :unsure:
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Changing names of the city is not rewriting history. Many Indian cities name got changed like Bombay, Madras, Calcutta etc. Even in Lahore, what used to be known as Dharampura before partition is now called as Mustafabad. Secularism is not a burden only on India. Muslims wanted a seperate country where they give no rights to minorities but expect Indians to remain secular and not change cities named after muslims is hypocrisy.
 
sweep_shot said:
They are like little children. They need validations I guess.

I have seen more maturity from a 5-year old than some of these bhakts.

:inti
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@Devadwal is a respected poster here. He has opened a thread in time pass section to discuss an important topic with fellow poster. I would not categorise it as validation from other.

Validation from others is making every opposition team as sugar daddy with an expectation that they will beat India but still failing.
 
Bhaijaan said:
1. The Viceregal Lodge → Rashtrapati Niwas (Shimla)

2. King George’s Medical College (KGMC) → Chhatrapati Shahuji Maharaj Medical University (Lucknow)

3. Victoria Terminus (VT) → Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj Terminus (CSMT) (Mumbai)

4. Connaught Place → Rajiv Chowk (Delhi)


5. Elphinstone Road Station → Prabhadevi Station (Mumbai)


Universities and Educational Institutions


1. Delhi College → Zakir Husain Delhi College

2. Queen Mary’s College → Maharani College (Jaipur)


Parks & Gardens
1. Victoria Park → Lohia Park (Lucknow)

2. Cubbon Park → Sri Chamarajendra Park (Bengaluru)

Roads and Avenues

1. Curzon Road → Kasturba Gandhi Marg (Delhi)


2. King’s Way → Rajpath (Delhi) → Further renamed to Kartavya Path (2022)

3. Queens Road → J.C. Bose Road (Kolkata)
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Campbell Medical College now known as Nil Ratan Sarkar Medical College.
 
Devadwal said:
Ahmedabad: - Who is Ahmed?
Moradabad: - Who is Murad?
Aurangabad: - Who is Aurangzeb?
Faizabad: - Who is Faiz?
Farooqabad: - Who is Farooq?
Adilabad: - Who is Adil?
Sahibabad- Who is Sahib?
Hyderabad: - Who is Haider?
Secunderabad: - Who is Sikander?
Firozabad: - Who is Firoz?
Mustafabad: - Who is Mustafa?
Ahmednagar: - Who is Ahmed?
Tughlaqabad: - Who is Tughlaq?
Fathabad: - Who is Fateh?
Usmanabad: - Who is Usman?
Baktiyarpur: - Who is Baktiyar?
Mahmudabad: - Who is Mahmud?
Muzaffarpur and Muzaffar Nagar: - Who is Muzaffar?
Burhanpur: -Who is Burhan?


Who are all these? These are the people who destroyed our culture, destroyed our temples, corrupted our idols and converted Hindus to Islam.

This is their contribution in the history of India. Why do we remember them by naming cities after them?

These cities should change names .

:kp
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Names from bygone Mughal era. Perhaps named after influential people like generals, Humayun's Bhatija and Shahjahan's 15th wife's 3rd cousin, favorite concubine... from 15th and 16th century.

Changing names will not change the situation of those hopeless cities. They have severe problems and name change should be the least priority. (y)
 
RexRex said:
Remove the chakra from the Indian flag, I want the flag to be a symbol of purity !
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Its Emperor Ashok's wheel. It represents the Dharmic wheel stemming from the teachings of Buddha.

It has religious connotations to it as not every hooman living in India follows the Dharma rules set by Buddha. Saluting and honoring the flag might imply a Christian or Muslim Indian is honoring Buddha's rules and way of life.
 
Mas-LFC said:
They seek dopamine by putting it out there in front of Pakistanis and Muslims here, on a Pakistani forum.

They love playing the victim card about the Moghuls, and Aurangzeb did this and that. They need to get over it. It’s long gone. British enslaved them and looted trillions, splitting their nation apart, leaving them in huge mess and made them poorer.
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There is no victim card - its just history that happened and is documented. So yes its long gone. So why do pak and bam posters constantly glorify a tyrant like aurangazeb? Can you not get over it? Minority rights are non existent in pak or ban.

British split the nation?? How?? Muslims wanted a separate country and British crafted it. If whole of Ind said we want one united country- would British have aplit it ? No. Gotta take some responsibility here right?? It was probably good Ind split or else it would have been a constant friction and a civil war if it was one Ind.
 
As long as even a single Muslim remains in India, BJP supporters will continue to wage a never-ending battle against the ghosts of the past, specifically, from 300 years ago, in an effort to vilify the Muslim community. This struggle will persist endlessly, especially as India is on track to have the largest Muslim population in the world. It’s deeply unfortunate for all Indians, as the minority will continue to face suffering, while the majority remains trapped in a futile fight against the legacy of Aurangzeb.

It’s one of the most senseless battles to keep fighting.
 
Rajdeep said:
@Devadwal is a respected poster here. He has opened a thread in time pass section to discuss an important topic with fellow poster. I would not categorise it as validation from other.

Validation from others is making every opposition team as sugar daddy with an expectation that they will beat India but still failing.
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Reminder for certain pakistan people's - I'm never ever Voted for BJP. I'm pro congressi . :kp
 
Never seen a Indian Christian call himself a victim when the British rule is criticized.

How is criticism of Mughals and other invaders targetting today's muslim community in India?
 
What’s the point of posting this thread on a Pakistani forum?

Write to your local MLA and push them to change the names, what is posting on PP gonna do? It will just cause Pakistanis to mock us for more pressing matters we face while diluting this issue.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Never seen a Indian Christian call himself a victim when the British rule is criticized.

How is criticism of Mughals and other invaders targetting today's muslim community in India?
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Mughals invaded & settled down in India for good whereas British ruled for 200 years, then left.
 
Honestly, razing and destroying pre-existing cities, monuments and places of worship has been the heritage of Islamic invaders. That's a very decadent methodology of imposing your own belief systems and that's what we see in the modern world today. Razing and destroying history is done by society which itself is in decline. This should be a cautionary tale and that's what worries me. Modern Hindutva brigade is hell bent on emulating the worst aspects of Islamic rulers to assert their control. It will not go very well.
 
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