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Indian Chief Minister Nitish Kumar forcibly pulls down the veil of a Muslim woman
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Nitish Kumar is RSS? Since when? He is a Backward caste trumpeter. His party is in alliance with BJP and thats about it.
Nitish is a clown and has no manners. He should have asked the girl to show her face instead of pulling it down himself. Him being a CM, should have known that. But that is too much to expect from him.
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BJP members are inspired by RSS ideology.
Why ask a woman to see her face, when she clearly doesnt want him to see?
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He is not RSS or BJP, but this is among the series of crazy things he has done…
He allies with who ever he can win.
He allies with who ever he can win.
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He sure dresses like them.
Nitish Kumar in RSS attire, dubbed 'Cheatish Kumar' in RJD post for Waqf support
The RJD attack came as Nitish Kumar's JD(U) felt the after-effects of its support for the Waqf bill, with two prominent leaders resigning from the party in an election year.
This is shameful to even touch a woman's clothing. No wonder Indian women are terrified.
I don't know why he wanted to see the face. He should have asked her to do it herself.
Nitish is not BJP. His party is in alliance with BJP during the recent Bihar elections. He is a Backward caste messiah. Obviously too much for him to behave properly.
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I don’t deny he is an idiot, he was Allied with RJD (Lalloo Prassad) before too he will do anything to remain in power.He sure dresses like them.
Nitish Kumar in RSS attire, dubbed 'Cheatish Kumar' in RJD post for Waqf support
The RJD attack came as Nitish Kumar's JD(U) felt the after-effects of its support for the Waqf bill, with two prominent leaders resigning from the party in an election year.www.indiatoday.in
This is shameful to even touch a woman's clothing. No wonder Indian women are terrified.
This is the only state where complete BJP rule will help, I understand you might not think that’s true but this guy along with LALOO and his children are a curse..
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There are many OBC ministers and leaders they don’t behave that way..
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Whatever his warped ideology is the issue here is a politician in public, in front of cameras had the audacity to take down a cover on a womans face. Is he a pervert? Is he married, does he have daughters?
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He is probably a pervert or a womanizer…
He even placed his arm on a woman at some stage an year or two ago which was weird as well..
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BIMARU gonna BIMARU.
Nitish is uncouth and acts like a clown. I did not say all backward caste people are like him. But he sure is their Maseeha. Every party has their vote bank. For Nitish, it is BC's.
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Just wanted to let you know, @KingKhanWC, that our British Raj aka @Rajdeep is Bihari too, so you should tag him as well. 
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I hope many women in India come out to protest this. No politician in the UK would make to the next day if he/she did this to a woman. I assume nothing will happen in India.
He is an uncouth dumbo. I have heard his speeches and he comes across as a dimwit and looks high most of the times. Probably a charsi...
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Yes.. his views on women are most regressive among any CM.
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Just wanted to let you know, @KingKhanWC, that our British Raj aka @Rajdeep is Bihari too, so you should tag him as well.
Thanks brother.
Hopefully this isnt a common habit in Bihar , otherwise our immigrant friend will be in trouble at far right protests , esp the way their women dress.
Very poor stuff from Palturam Nitish Kumar. Though I am certain he didnt mean it in any offensive way but it came across very bad. He should apologize to that young lady.
And LOL at posters calling him RSS member. OP has no clue about Indian politics, which party he represents, what he stands for and how many times he switched for votes.
And LOL at posters calling him RSS member. OP has no clue about Indian politics, which party he represents, what he stands for and how many times he switched for votes.
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Are you from the same village? Please dont go around the UK touching womens clothing. Or you'll be deported back to backward Bihar.
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What a vile scumbag!
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Except for less than 2 years from 2015 when Nitish was in coalition with RJD, he has been in sanghi lap. IIRC, he was Railway minister in Vajpayee government too. So its been close to 3 decades.
Only an equally incompetent feku can bear with paltu chacha for another term. However, I doubt he'll complete his current term as Bihar CM.
That 10K bribe to Bihari womenfolk just on the eve of elections proved to be the game changer for sanghis.
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Paltu kumar ji has done what now
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for the op even bondi beach Massacre thread was about rss, he thinks justby ranting on PP he can change the truth
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One of the worst politicians we have had, he got lucky that the ones before him was probably the worst ever.
Both those parties have looted Indians for decades now.
Both those parties have looted Indians for decades now.
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I have 0 sympathy for people of Bihar now, they had an option for change yet they chose the same corrupt Gundas that have been looting and treating them like slaves for decades now.
The only bad part is it’s common folks money that gets looted when Biharis get money from central government. Those guys don’t deserve a dime from other states taxes.
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Only Lalu ji can make Bihar Bihar again.
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Thank you to the Indian and Hindu posters for condemning this horrific act. The OP clearly didn’t expect this response and assumed everyone would be an extremist like him ge is someone who blindly justifies terror attacks in the West simply because the terrorist are Pakistani or Muslim. This thread has completely backfired on him.
Correct me if I am wrong bro but he or his party never aligned with RSS/Hindutva mindset, right? I know JDU was in alliance with BJP for many elections but that is due to political opportunism than ideological alliance. Its like Congress and Shiv Sena together in Maharashtra.
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Such a pathetic act. They are the same people who talk about rights of minorities and freedom of religion in other countries but look at themselves! The audacity!
Yeah, good analogy. There is no ideological thought put behind putting together alliance between Shiv Sena (UBT) and Congress. It's only for grabbing power, just like Nitish tying up with sanghis in Bihar
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It's mystifying how Bihar is so cursed. Every other state - even other parts of the Bimaru alliance has made some progress. Bihar stubbornly remains at the bottom of every metric possible.
Here's a look at a composite score including every element from Economic to Environment. It's below even the smallest of states.
They can't even blame Lalu's jungle raj for this state of Bihar as it 'ended' 2 decades back.
Biharis are happy with the alms they get from netas to vote for them. No wonder, Bihar is down in dumps.
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Most of them are denying he has any links with RSS or the govt so the condemnation is meaningless without accepting responsibility.
The reality is this hindutva would never dare to do this in India 20 years ago, bigots like him feel emboldened in today's Modi-led India.
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If they can talk about Nehru even today they can forget who has been in power in Bihar for 2 decades.
Anyway this is further proof of how he is India's Biden. He is totally senile. There are videos of him on stage talking and waving to imaginary people.
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He has nothing to do with the RSS. A lot of Muslims used to vote for him (probably do even today). He is partnered politically with the BJP. That's all.
Also, I doubt any sane RSS guy, even the most hardcore would actually do this at a public event to an educated Muslim woman. There are subtle differences in India some of you refuse to see. The worst of India will still be a 100 times better than the best of Pakistan for a minority.
As I said earlier, he won't be allowed to complete his term and mercilessly dumped by the duo
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I agree with @pillionrider . I despise Hindutva as much as the next person but to connect Nitish to Hindutva is absurd. He has the ability to be the champion of Hindutva, Islamism, casteism, anti-casteism...basically whatever it takes to cling on to power. That he's currently married to the BJP is purely a matter of co-incidence. He's spent time with virtually every party over the last 40 years.
This is representative of the worst of India - backward, misogynistic and still stuck in the middle ages. I remember reading stuff on this forum about an ex-Khyber Pakhtunwa chief minister called Ali Amin Gandapur when he came to power - how he made sexist remarks and how he was implicated in parading a woman naked. Think of Nitish as our Ali Amin Gandapur.
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Everyone has a mother even Hindus who support RSS so it was expected they would condemn this clown. You're in your own little world, dreaming of Generals hugging you. lol
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I see neither of you addressed my conclusion that he would never have dared to do this in the India of 20 years ago and he felt emboldened in the current Modi era. I didn't even know that he was married to the BJP in your words, but that just proves my point.
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20 years ago he would've done a lot worse and it would never have been reported. We had politicians in that part of the country who were literally crime lords...still do to be honest.
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Disgusting behavior. Some boundaries shouldn’t be crossed.
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So BJP have enabled crime lords who are openly assaulting Muslim women now. I'm sure you must see some correlation. But if not, maybe abuse of minorities is just an Indian thing, and nothing to do with a hindutva govt.
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If you have time can you explain more? What is the motivation behind voting these kind of people?
You say they alms but from all accounts from Indian posters Bihar is one of the most backward states in India.
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I know you see everything through the prism of religion but not everyone does. If assault is the right word and I'm not sure it is since he's virtually senile, he's assaulting a woman. The fact that she's a Muslim is incidental to the issue. Should have no particular bearing on the perfectly justfied outrage and condemnation.
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Shady people being in position of power in democracy is not exclusive to India, surprising question on a Pakistani forum.
Having said that, this might be uncouth behavior and Nitish Kumar has had such instances before ,however he is one of those leaders who rose to the top from the lowest of the strata in the society. He brought people from the absolute downtrodden ignored castes who would not find a space in Indian politics to mainstream.
Also Bihar is not a backward state, it’s an extremely wealthy state with a lot of poor people living in it, just as the case with most subcontinent states.
How many Non-Muslim Women in India cover their faces and had that cover forcibly removed by a CM in public?
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How many times has this happened to a Muslim woman in public? If it’s a regular occurrence or a pandemic we can freak out.
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I'm not sure anyone who's a non-Bihari can explain the mentality and considerations there. I know I can't and I'm reasonably clued into Indian politics.
Most of Indian elections have strong caste, religion, community, class factors in addition to more nebulous issues like governance, economy and freebie promises. Bihar elections though almost exclusively seem to run on caste and community considerations with a dash of criminal intimidation and apathy thrown in.
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You really want statistics of poor behaviour by Indian politicians.
An ex-Prime Minister's son is in Jail for co-ercing and raping dozens of women including his house help.
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In Pakistan most of these shady dudes have hidden hand of establishment patronage. The establishment can then move them around from time to time. They also rely on things like biradri and unfortunately illeterate low educated populace in many rural areas.
I was wondering if in India it was the same - it seems like is sort of similar apart from the establishment selection.
Do you have an answer or not to the question I asked?
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even gangsters and mafia have won political patronage in the past in various countries due to people support, even educated folks overseas will vote for someone who belongs to their community etc,so can’t blame people from villages. people vote for community leaders especially in our part of the world and deep states/ establishments give patronage based on how much people support someone has.
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No I don't know the answer to that specific question if you insist it has to be a Chief Minister and it should have to do only with face coverings.
If you ask a more generic question about outrages by Indian politicians against women of all religions and castes, a quick google will reveal dozens of instances.
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I didn't post this thread. When it's about an Indian chief minister forcibly removing a Muslim woman's veil, which other prism other than religion should it be viewed through?
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It's pretty obvious the cult politician hadn't been laid for a while.
Desperate little cult plebs.
Desperate little cult plebs.
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There's several prisms it can be viewed through.
'Indian chief minister forcibly removing a Muslim woman's veil' - Indians are slimy
'Indian chief minister forcibly removing a Muslim woman's veil' - Indian politicians are vile
'Indian chief minister forcibly removing a Muslim woman's veil' - Muslims are not safe in India
'Indian chief minister forcibly removing a Muslim woman's veil' - Indian women face daily harassment
That your mind immediately went to the third says a lot about you and not much about the incident.
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Not all Muslims are safe in India.
Here is HRW.
"According to Human Rights Watch (HRW) and other human rights organizations, Indian Muslims face a range of human rights concerns, including unlawful expulsions, discriminatory laws, punitive demolitions of properties, and increased violence and harassment, often incited by political leaders. "
Are they making this up?
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The fact that they didn’t vote for PK is astounding.
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No they aren't making it up. Muslims in India today face a lot of issues - specifically the ones you've listed. You've put it well - "Not all Muslims are safe in India."
You live in the UK right? Here's a quote from an article in the FT
"Muslims in the UK face significant issues including widespread Islamophobia, manifesting as hate crimes, verbal abuse, and discrimination in education and employment, disproportionately affecting visibly Muslim women."
Are they making this up or is life miserable for you there?
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Everything that happens there is astounding...defies logic. The only way educated and sensible people who live there can deal with it is by maintaining a solid sense of humour. I caught a live standup by a Bihari comedian called Sharon (??) a couple of months ago.
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How does it makes it better?
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I am not too bothered about what you think about what I think to be honest.
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Doesn't obviously. Just puts it in context.
Muslims in India face lots of issues. The political climate is against them and they are demonised by the ruling party. They face discrimination in several settings and yes are today facing increasing violence in certain states.
However millions of them live in relative peace and happiness without facing these problems on a day to day basis. If Pakistan and Bangladesh opened their borders and offered a simple path for immigration to Muslims from India, I doubt more than a small minority would take up the offer.
Life in India is not easy for most except the privileged few. Minorities have it worse - Muslims, Dalits etc. Doesn't mean everything needs to be seen through that lens though just like not every issue needs to be seen through that lens in the UK I guess.
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You did ask me though.
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No one in Dallas is being lynched on mere suspicion of transporting a cow for slaughter. No one on the streets of the UK is being forced to chant religious slogans like Jai Shri Ram. Yes, discrimination can exist in any society, but there is a fundamental difference between private prejudice and state enabled intimidation. When violence, coercion, or religious policing is tolerated, encouraged, or selectively ignored by those in power, it ceases to be a social problem and becomes a governance failure.
And the argument that over 200 million Muslims haven’t left India, so things can’t be that bad is not evidence of tolerance, it is an attempt to normalize bigotry. People do not abandon their homeland en masse every time they face discrimination. Economic ties, family, language, poverty, and fear constrain mobility. By that logic, no oppressed group in history was ever oppressed unless they all fled.
The continued presence of Indian Muslims does not negate state backed majoritarianism, it exposes how deeply rooted and unavoidable their reality is. Using their endurance as proof of fairness is not a defense, it is an admission that injustice has been made ordinary.
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Sure they do, men who abuse women are from every land and every race.
The point of this thread is , the weirdo is a well known and powerful politician in India. Can you name another politician with such a profile removing clothing off a woman live in TV?
A decent attempt of defending him btw.
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I've had a few conversations with you now and most of them end up going in endless loops because you start out insanely convinced about your conclusion before you enter into them.
Sitting in the States(?), based on a few anecdotal news reports, algorithm fed content and no particular data, you've totally persuaded yourself that Indian Muslims who are 250 million strong, form a strong vote bank with plenty of political representation and presence in every field of Indian endeavour from sport to science to government and business are enduring a fate worse than death.
There are degrees of minority position in a society between the Jews in the States to the Tutsi in Rwanda and I guess we'll have to agree to disagree about where Indian Muslims fall on that spectrum. It's just that my opinion is informed by living alongside them for most of my life and being well aware of Indian society.
How would I know where that person exists, but I know that this KIND of insane violent ATTITUDE exists in all forms in that region. Do I sound like that I am defending such an act?
Would you be surprised if something SIMILAR to it (not necessarily yanking Naqab) won't happen in other parts of the region?
Women and children oppression in that region is a daily routine, and many elected officials come from the same ignorant masses.
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It appears you can’t address the argument on its merits, so you’re shifting the standard to an extreme, implying that unless something meets an absolute threshold, it must be neither true nor false. That isn’t a rebuttal, it’s an evasion. Reasoned debate doesn’t work by moving the goalposts when the facts are inconvenient.
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Nah bro. You're the type who thinks that about anyone who refuses to say, All Muslims are lovely people and all Hindus are Hindutvas or whatever you call them
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Can any BJP or Hindi speaker please translate this ?
His grin says it all smug, shameless, almost proud.
It’s the same creepy smirk you’ve seen in old Bollywood villains who kidnap girls in red Suzuki vans, men who think power gives them entitlement over women’s bodies.
A Chief Minister laughing after humiliating a woman in public isn’t a joke, it’s a warning.
If this is how authority behaves on camera, imagine what kind of behavior it normalizes off camera.
This isn’t culture.
This isn’t leadership.
This is a man enjoying his power while stripping someone else of dignity. Absolutely shameful.
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