Indian cricket team should have refused to play against Pakistan : Sena

[Suleiman]

Mumbai: Team India should have refused to play against Pakistan in the ICC Champions Trophy, which would have earned our cricketers accolades from the people of the country, Shiv Sena said on Tuesday.

The saffron outfit's comment came two days after arch-rivals Pakistan defeated the Indian cricket team by 180 runs to lift the trophy in London.

The Sena said those mourning India's loss in the final of the ICC event should instead have celebrated the hockey team's victory over Pakistan on the same day. "Our so-called nationalists condemned our cricketers, burnt their effigies and broke their TV sets because our team lost to Pakistan...All this seems laughable now. Why did these nationalists not come out on the streets to congratulate our hockey team which decimated Pakistan on the same day?" the Sena wondered in an editorial in its mouthpiece, Saamna.

The Marathi daily said the Indian cricket team should have blatantly refused to play against Pakistan. "It would have won our team accolades from the nation. But they didn't do so. They did not sacrifice for the nation," it added.

Indian cricket fans do not display extreme emotions when their team loses to any other country. This happens only in case of Pakistan and this shows that the people consider the neighbouring country as an "enemy", Saamna said.

The Uddhav Thackeray-led party advocated snapping of all ties with Islamabad. "Those who feel Pakistan should be defeated on the cricket field, we have nothing to say to them because we believe that keeping any kind of relation with Pakistan is an insult to the thousands of jawans who have been martyred in Kashmir. We have to come out of the notion that playing cricket will improve relations with them," it said. —Agencies

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...gainst-pakistan-sena/articleshow/59243043.cms

 

[Waseem]

Not sure but do these nutcases raise same issue when India wins against Pakistan?

 

[Saeed]

So they are ok okay with playing Hockey with Pakistan but not Cricket? Clearly Shiv Sena is bitter about the loss. They can refuse to play in a bilateral series but this was different. It wouldn't have been good for India's image if they did this in middle of a tournament.

 

[Suleiman]

Makes this victory 10x sweeter. Love to see these losers cry.

 

[Madplayer]

Why play against England? Have they forgotten sacrifices of bhagat singh and other lakhs of jawans of that time? Or does this sentiment for jawans have an expiry date?

 

[Hornbill]

They don't waste any opportunity to take a dig at BJP.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Loving this. Bet these low lifes cried themselves to sleep, the night of the match. Oh how I wish I could've seen it

 

[SandyB]

Shiv Sena is in an existential crisis now, The BJP/RSS combo has now outperformed them in nationalistic rhetoric, they are losing ground amongst Maharashtra Hindus !

 

[kingusama92]

Thackerey's reaction during match.

 

[Saeed]

Hopefully India will lose few matches to West Indies and then to Sri Lanka in few weeks.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Well, after the beating they received, I'd advise them the same.

 

[Heisenberg]

How relevant is this group in India?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

How relevant is this group in India?

Very relevant. Their founder Bal Thackeray had the whole nation in mourning when he died with luminaries such as Amitabh Bachan and Sachin Tendulkar leading the tributes at his funeral.

 

[GBK_Fan]

I think that's exactly what our team did ;-d

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Indian Muslims offering prayers for the Shiv Sena leader on his death. This should show just how relevant the Shiv Sena has been in India over the last few decades, these guys making sure that no one is any doubt they know their place.

 

[SandyB]

Very relevant. Their founder Bal Thackeray had the whole nation in mourning when he died with luminaries such as Amitabh Bachan and Sachin Tendulkar leading the tributes at his funeral.

Nope, just Maharashtra mourned, that too was made by force. Two girls posted on the people of mumbai being made to observe a "Voluntary hartal/bandh" in mourning, they were given death threats and were forced too seek police protection for a few weeks. !

Bal Thackeray was a staunch regionalist, who believed Mumbai should be for Maratha's first and used the angst of the locals against migration to the city, to build a solid political base. You could say his success model is sort of being applied by the BJP nationwide.

Now BJP and SS are at loggerheads because BJP is threatening SS in Maharashtra, so their relevancy since 2014 is greatly reduced.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Nope, just Maharashtra mourned, that too was made by force. Two girls posted on the people of mumbai being made to observe a "Voluntary hartal/bandh" in mourning, they were given death threats and were forced too seek police protection for a few weeks. !

Bal Thackeray was a staunch regionalist, who believed Mumbai should be for Maratha's first and used the angst of the locals against migration to the city, to build a solid political base. You could say his success model is sort of being applied by the BJP nationwide.

Now BJP and SS are at loggerheads because BJP is threatening SS in Maharashtra, so their relevancy since 2014 is greatly reduced.

BJP themselves have built their support base on Hindutva policies. If anything that shows that the SS ideology has been absorbed into greater Indian political sphere itself and that is why they probably feel threatened by the BJP. They have made the SS irrelevant only because the Hindutva forces are now bigger than a single state and have enveloped most of the nation.

 

[SandyB]

BJP themselves have built their support base on Hindutva policies. If anything that shows that the SS ideology has been absorbed into greater Indian political sphere itself and that is why they probably feel threatened by the BJP. They have made the SS irrelevant only because the Hindutva forces are now bigger than a single state and have enveloped most of the nation.

True, and SS's main point of "regionalism" won't fly for BJP as all state-siders are welcome for BJP, as long as they subscribe to Hindu-Hindi-Hindutwa. So SS is losing relevance fast even in MH. BJP no longer need them as allies in Maharashtra elections, past elections BJP competed against them infact !

 

[Abdullah]

I only read the title. But why didn't he say explicitly before

 

[Bewal Express]

Indian Muslims offering prayers for the Shiv Sena leader on his death. This should show just how relevant the Shiv Sena has been in India over the last few decades, these guys making sure that no one is any doubt they know their place.
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More like a pray of thanks for his death!

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Nope, just Maharashtra mourned, that too was made by force. Two girls posted on the people of mumbai being made to observe a "Voluntary hartal/bandh" in mourning, they were given death threats and were forced too seek police protection for a few weeks. !

Bal Thackeray was a staunch regionalist, who believed Mumbai should be for Maratha's first and used the angst of the locals against migration to the city, to build a solid political base. You could say his success model is sort of being applied by the BJP nationwide.

Now BJP and SS are at loggerheads because BJP is threatening SS in Maharashtra, so their relevancy since 2014 is greatly reduced.

So a mix of a "mafia" Don and Religious leader.

(No disrespect intended.)

 

[troodon]

So a mix of a "mafia" Don and Religious leader.

(No disrespect intended.)

Bal Thackerey is not a religious leader. He is a pro-Marathi leader. You could call his party mafia. They demand donations and people cannot say no. He is a popular leader in Mumbai.

 

[Madplayer]

Indian Muslims offering prayers for the Shiv Sena leader on his death. This should show just how relevant the Shiv Sena has been in India over the last few decades, these guys making sure that no one is any doubt they know their place.
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Shiv sena is limited to maharashtra as far as its stronghold is concerned.

 

[big_gamer007]

Isn't Amitabh bachhan's character in the movie loosely based on Balasaab? In the 90's he was one of the most powerful leaders in the country maybe even the most powerful by a long way.. Raj Thackeray has the same style but he wasn't given he leadership of the party and he had to form his own party.. If Raj was given control of SS and MNS was never formed he would still be a very big figure in Indian politics..

 

[SandyB]

So a mix of a "mafia" Don and Religious leader.

(No disrespect intended.)

That is a correct assessment actually .

The guy was Badass as far as image was concerned. He drank alcohol, smoked and all still was revered as a Hindu Icon. The first saffron clad superstar of Modern India. He started out as a cartoonist actually .

Isn't Amitabh bachhan's character in the movie loosely based on Balasaab? In the 90's he was one of the most powerful leaders in the country maybe even the most powerful by a long way.. Raj Thackeray has the same style but he wasn't given he leadership of the party and he had to form his own party.. If Raj was given control of SS and MNS was never formed he would still be a very big figure in Indian politics..

That would still be Madame Jayalalitha.

Why wasn't Raj give the post ? Nepotism ?

 

[big_gamer007]

That is a correct assessment actually .

The guy was Badass as far as image was concerned. He drank alcohol, smoked and all still was revered as a Hindu Icon. The first saffron clad superstar of Modern India. He started out as a cartoonist actually .





That would still be Madame Jayalalitha.

Why wasn't Raj give the post ? Nepotism ?

Nah I think balasaab was bigger than Jayalalitha.. Probably someone from Maharashtra can clarify but I think Balasaab was the biggest name in 90's mainly because he was kingpin of the heart of India(Mumbai).. If you controlled Mumbai at that time you controlled most of India most things used to be run from Mumbai back then..

Yes nepotism, chose his son rather than his nephew..

 

[ahmedzee]

So don't play cricket with Pakistan but please play hockey with them.
Similar stance was taken by GOI too.
The day is not far, when India would even refuse to play us in ICC tournaments as well.

 

[Braveheart]

I couldn't care less if we never played them again.
They'll just have to live with the lasting legacy of being hammered in a final to Pakistan and we will just have to keep reminding them

 

[Varun]

Thackeray ooh so patriotic.

Should be put on the Siachen glacier for a month.

 

[www787]

Thackeray ooh so patriotic.

Should be put on the Siachen glacier for a month.

Glacier will melt and hasten rise in sea.

 

[Syed1]

In hindsight they should have boycotted the match, would have walked away with a little bit of izzat.

 

[PakLFC]

Cry babies at it again. Then they should have boycotted the group match as well that would have eliminated India from the tournament at the group stages. These brainless people don't think much, do they! No Pakistani is asking for the support of Indian Muslim's, couldn't care less about them. As for the hockey India today lost to Malaysia that ends their chances of winning the tournament so the win over Pak did not get them far where as we won the CL. HA HA HA!. The now ongoing situation in Darjeeling must also be Pak's fault as well.

 

[Hamza_]

Padosis are such losers.

 

[SandyB]

Cry babies at it again. Then they should have boycotted the group match as well that would have eliminated India from the tournament at the group stages. These brainless people don't think much, do they! No Pakistani is asking for the support of Indian Muslim's, couldn't care less about them. As for the hockey India today lost to Malaysia that ends their chances of winning the tournament so the win over Pak did not get them far where as we won the CL. HA HA HA!. The now ongoing situation in Darjeeling must also be Pak's fault as well.

Don't get too far ahead of yourself !

Remember when kaptaan SHoaib Malik said "Apologies to all the Muslims in the world for loosing to India." ? , in a post match presentation ceremony .. no less.. !

 

[PakLFC]

Don't get too far ahead of yourself !

Remember when kaptaan SHoaib Malik said "Apologies to all the Muslims in the world for loosing to India." ? , in a post match presentation ceremony .. no less.. !

Shoaib is a man with limited intelligence. Even then he did not mention Indian Muslim's in his speech. You are absolutely welcome to them over and over again.

 

[Couch Cricketer]

He was sort of Altaf Hussein of Mumbai/Maharasthra

 

[big_gamer007]

Shoaib is a man with limited intelligence. Even then he did not mention Indian Muslim's in his speech. You are absolutely welcome to them over and over again.

All Muslims in the world means Indian Muslims as well.. Unless you think India is not part of this world or Indians Muslims are not Muslims..

 

[PakLFC]

All Muslims in the world means Indian Muslims as well.. Unless you think India is not part of this world or Indians Muslims are not Muslims..

Only Muslim's who love Pakistan. Most Indian Muslims are proper haters of Pakistan therefore no reason as to why we should care for them.

 

[ManFan]

Sad to see people using the masses' emotions to further their personal ambitions. But it's like that on both sides.