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Indian Premier League (Match 32) - 16 October, 2020 - MI [149/2] beat KKR [148/5] by 8 wickets

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When: Friday, October 16, 2020, 19:30 IST

Where: Sheikh Zayed Stadium, Abu Dhabi

What to expect: Scores have ranged around the 160-run mark for all teams, except MI, and the pitches are getting slower. Even as Mumbai Indians have posted three 190+ scores after batting first, their finishing powers seemed to have waned slightly in the last couple of games. Dew hasn't played much of a part and is unlikely to do so. Teams winning the toss will look to bat.

Squads:

Kolkata Knight Riders Squad: Tom Banton, Shubman Gill, Nitish Rana, Eoin Morgan, Dinesh Karthik(w/c), Andre Russell, Rahul Tripathi, Pat Cummins, Kamlesh Nagarkoti, Varun Chakravarthy, Prasidh Krishna, Sunil Narine, Kuldeep Yadav, Sandeep Warrier, Siddhesh Lad, Nikhil Naik, Chris Green, Lockie Ferguson, Rinku Singh, Ali Khan, Shivam Mavi, Manimaran Siddharth

Mumbai Indians Squad: Rohit Sharma(c), Quinton de Kock(w), Suryakumar Yadav, Ishan Kishan, Hardik Pandya, Kieron Pollard, Krunal Pandya, James Pattinson, Rahul Chahar, Trent Boult, Jasprit Bumrah, Dhawal Kulkarni, Saurabh Tiwary, Aditya Tare, Mitchell McClenaghan, Chris Lynn, Nathan Coulter-Nile, Jayant Yadav, Anmolpreet Singh, Anukul Roy, Mohsin Khan, Sherfane Rutherford, Digvijay Deshmukh, Prince Balwant Rai
 
Kolkata Knight Riders will see a change of guard as the management revealed that current captain Dinesh Karthik has opted to hand over captaincy of the franchise to Eoin Morgan.

“Dinesh Karthik has informed the KKR management that with a view to focusing on his batting and contributing more to the team’s cause, he wished to handover the captaincy to Eoin Morgan,” KKR said in a statement.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...eoin-morgan/story-I9NjwsjnG6WUAW4Z99YD5O.html
 
Give Lockie a chance.
Also I am only watching this prasidh the beast kirshna. What a talent he is.
 
KKR top 3 is weak. Shubhman holds one end but no support from rest.
 
Kolkata Knight Riders won the toss and opt to bat

Teams:

Mumbai Indians (Playing XI): Rohit Sharma(c), Quinton de Kock(w), Suryakumar Yadav, Ishan Kishan, Hardik Pandya, Kieron Pollard, Krunal Pandya, Nathan Coulter-Nile, Rahul Chahar, Trent Boult, Jasprit Bumrah

Kolkata Knight Riders (Playing XI): Rahul Tripathi, Shubman Gill, Nitish Rana, Eoin Morgan(c), Dinesh Karthik(w), Andre Russell, Chris Green, Pat Cummins, Shivam Mavi, Varun Chakravarthy, Prasidh Krishna
 
Shubman Gill's game isn't good enough for T20s....KKR should try someone else at top.

Gill's poor SR puts his partners under pressure which results in wickets and wastage of powerplay overs.
 
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thats why bumrah is the best bowler in the world in all formats. That bouncer and ability to move the ball both ways is insane. Only injuries can stop this beast.
 
KKR needs a miracle to save them here , I do not see them getting past 130 , and that is well below par against explosive MI batting.
 
nhaaa as talented as our next generation bowlers are i dont see anyone getting close to bumrah's level of skill anytime soon. We have quite a few bowlers from the young gen who have pace but the skills dont match up to bumrah. I hope they do learn from him in the future. He is special indeed.
 
Cummins has outbatted morgan, lol

Cummins has improved his batting. After the 2018 series vs India, he barely scored a run. Good to see him scoring runs.

He was always a good pinch hitter, since his u-19 days.
 
Pat Cummins (122*) has scored more runs than
- Hetmyer (91 runs in 5 inns)
- Russell (83 in 7)
- Uthappa (83 in 6)
- Maxwell (58 in 7)
- Jadhav (58 in 4)
- Karthik (112)

He can beat...
Jadeja (126)
Dhoni (133)
 
jesus coulter is horrible.

anyway cummins is a better batsman than a bowler, He is a poor t20 bowler and he is also an average odi bowler. like i said he will get figured out in tests too. he is a good bowler in SENA conditions. Outside Sena he is average even in tests.

good luck fake india fans. go suck up to your aussie sweethearts.
 
tyron_woodley said:
jesus coulter is horrible.

anyway cummins is a better batsman than a bowler, He is a poor t20 bowler and he is also an average odi bowler. like i said he will get figured out in tests too. he is a good bowler in SENA conditions. Outside Sena he is average even in tests.

good luck fake india fans. go suck up to your aussie sweethearts.
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Cummins is a complete bowler. He is just too new to short form cricket cause Aussies don't waste their pace bowlers in bilateral limited overs cricket.
 
JattMaula said:
Cummins is a complete bowler. He is just too new to short form cricket cause Aussies don't waste their pace bowlers in bilateral limited overs cricket.
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no he isnt. cummins is exactly as good as what i described in the post. He is not a complete bowler.

he is a poor t20 bowler,
he is an average odi bowler

he also is only Good in SENA in the lonig format. Thats the truth. truth probably hurts a lot of aussie wannabe fans from india.
 
KKR should play Tom Banton in place of Tripathi or Rana.

An Indian spinner should come in place of Chris Green.
 
Pat Cummins (7 sixes) has hit more sixes in #IPL2020 than likes of..

Maxwell
Pant
Russell
Jadeja
Dhoni etc
 
Mumbai vs Dehli is the final we deserve. They are easily the best 2 teams in the tournament. The other teams have glaring weaknesses and are inconsistent.
 
tyron_woodley said:
jesus coulter is horrible.

anyway cummins is a better batsman than a bowler, He is a poor t20 bowler and he is also an average odi bowler. like i said he will get figured out in tests too. he is a good bowler in SENA conditions. Outside Sena he is average even in tests.

good luck fake india fans. go suck up to your aussie sweethearts.
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Dude, No idea what u have against cummins in test matches. We have already told u his avg in India. 30 is not bad considering the next avg for a foreign pacer in India is 50 by Rabada.

Cummins also averages 29 in Bangladesh. This shows he is actually the most successful foreign pacer in asia in the past 5 years. Not saying much since its only 4 tests.
14 wickets in 4 tests avg 30 seems poor , but is miles better than any other foreign seamer

But the point is that if there is any pacer who has the potential to succeed in India foreign , its cummins

Maybe u dont like his action or the fact does not bowl yorkers or full balls.
Infact, dry pitches are his strong suit. His bouncers on dry pitches are unpredictable. His short ball tactics work in Asia. If only he wasnt injured 2 years ago when Aus toured UAE, would have put this argument to rest

But I agree that in limited overs, he is not the best. Wasnt worth the million USD KKR bought him for. Needs more variation generally.
 
sindhiboy said:
Dude, No idea what u have against cummins in test matches. We have already told u his avg in India. 30 is not bad considering the next avg for a foreign pacer in India is 50 by Rabada.

Cummins also averages 29 in Bangladesh. This shows he is actually the most successful foreign pacer in asia in the past 5 years. Not saying much since its only 4 tests.
14 wickets in 4 tests avg 30 seems poor , but is miles better than any other foreign seamer

But the point is that if there is any pacer who has the potential to succeed in India foreign , its cummins

Maybe u dont like his action or the fact does not bowl yorkers or full balls.
Infact, dry pitches are his strong suit. His bouncers on dry pitches are unpredictable. His short ball tactics work in Asia. If only he wasnt injured 2 years ago when Aus toured UAE, would have put this argument to rest

But I agree that in limited overs, he is not the best. Wasnt worth the million USD KKR bought him for. Needs more variation generally.
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Pretty much this [MENTION=150610]tyron_woodley[/MENTION]
 
JattMaula said:
Pretty much this [MENTION=150610]tyron_woodley[/MENTION]
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Infact, he took 14 wickets in 5 ODIs in India last year against a full strength Indian team. He is neither a poor ODI bowler as postulated by tyron

Maybe not the best, but not anywhere near poor
 
Feel so sorry for KKR

When you have Cummins as your premier strike bowler who has zero wicket taking ability, the rest are bound to struggle
 
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Playing Phil Salt as your overseas spinner seems pointless when you have Narine
 
One point tyron bhai always ignore is that beast bumrah has a poor record vs good batting line ups in ODIs and has'nt played a test match in Asia. Dont be fooled by couple of good matches in IPL. He is very good but is not invincible as tyron is trying to make us belief
 
Smudger said:
One point tyron bhai always ignore is that beast bumrah has a poor record vs good batting line ups in ODIs and has'nt played a test match in Asia. Dont be fooled by couple of good matches in IPL. He is very good but is not invincible as tyron is trying to make us belief
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Bumrah has an average fc record in India. Infact, I was shocked that he was picked for South Africa tour 2 and a half years ago. Obviously, he proved me wrong.

Point remains, Bumrah has not played a test in India or Sri lanka.
 
sindhiboy said:
Bumrah has an average fc record in India. Infact, I was shocked that he was picked for South Africa tour 2 and a half years ago. Obviously, he proved me wrong.

Point remains, Bumrah has not played a test in India or Sri lanka.
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He has an average of 22 in first class cricket in India. Poor average ROFL.
 
Smudger said:
One point tyron bhai always ignore is that beast bumrah has a poor record vs good batting line ups in ODIs and has'nt played a test match in Asia. Dont be fooled by couple of good matches in IPL. He is very good but is not invincible as tyron is trying to make us belief
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He is the best bowler in all formats hands down. He is much superior to Cummins. Only injuries will stop this guy. In terms of skill he is the best.
 
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sindhiboy said:
Dude, No idea what u have against cummins in test matches. We have already told u his avg in India. 30 is not bad considering the next avg for a foreign pacer in India is 50 by Rabada.

Cummins also averages 29 in Bangladesh. This shows he is actually the most successful foreign pacer in asia in the past 5 years. Not saying much since its only 4 tests.
14 wickets in 4 tests avg 30 seems poor , but is miles better than any other foreign seamer

But the point is that if there is any pacer who has the potential to succeed in India foreign , its cummins

Maybe u dont like his action or the fact does not bowl yorkers or full balls.
Infact, dry pitches are his strong suit. His bouncers on dry pitches are unpredictable. His short ball tactics work in Asia. If only he wasnt injured 2 years ago when Aus toured UAE, would have put this argument to rest

But I agree that in limited overs, he is not the best. Wasnt worth the million USD KKR bought him for. Needs more variation generally.
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He got lucky into that series. Australia borrowed soil from India, had their best ever prep for that series by replicating the Indian pitches in Australia for practice. they had ample rest and created a game plan for each Indian player yet they still managed to lose to a tired India who were at their absolute worst form that year after a busy schedule.

Cummins was never effective overall. He got spanked just like everyone else.

He will get spanked harder next time Aussies tour. Unless all the main Indian players decline rapidly over the next year this guy will have figures close to rabada as well.

Yea he has done better than a few other foreigners but there is only one Steyn. That's why Steyn is GOAT.

I will says this right now, if India prep the way Australia did for the away series in 2017, India will win the series again this year.

If they don't well they will lose a close one.
 
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Not easy to beat MI. I think Rohit is going to win another IPL. MI have a super team and Rohit is a very very good captain.
 
tyron_woodley said:
He is the best bowler in all formats hands down. He is much superior to Cummins. Only injuries will stop this guy. In terms of skill he is the best.
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Yes, he is overall better, has more variation then cummins. Maybe he will be better than Cummins in the future, But he still has to play in India.

Maybe u don't see Non-Indian seamers as any good. But , as I have already iterated, Cummins has performed in Asia more than any foreign pacer in the past 5 years.

Currently, Cummins is a better test bowler than Bumrah and the best in the world. Let Bumrah play more tests before making him GOAT
 
sindhiboy said:
Yes, he is overall better, has more variation then cummins. Maybe he will be better than Cummins in the future, But he still has to play in India.

Maybe u don't see Non-Indian seamers as any good. But , as I have already iterated, Cummins has performed in Asia more than any foreign pacer in the past 5 years.

Currently, Cummins is a better test bowler than Bumrah and the best in the world. Let Bumrah play more tests before making him GOAT
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I look at ability. I have seen Cummins best and I have seen bunrah's best. Bumrah is a better bowler at his best comfortably.

However question is can bumrah sustain his form and stay injury free? If he can then yes he will be a GOAT candidate.

Injuries are a pain though. Cummins took 5 years plus off after a serious injury but he is stronger than ever now. Barely ever gets injured. although his workload is a lot less than bumrah....

I do rate Cummins in tests only but even in tests he hasn't been good outside Sena.
 
tyron_woodley said:
He has an average of 22 in first class cricket in India. Poor average ROFL.
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You are right . He took 80 wickets in 28 matches before South Africa tour. This gave me the false impression that he wasn't good. I did not look at his average.
 
tyron_woodley said:
He got lucky into that series. Australia borrowed soil from India, had their best ever prep for that series by replicating the Indian pitches in Australia for practice. they had ample rest and created a game plan for each Indian player yet they still managed to lose to a tired India who were at their absolute worst form that year after a busy schedule.

Cummins was never effective overall. He got spanked just like everyone else.

He will get spanked harder next time Aussies tour. Unless all the main Indian players decline rapidly over the next year this guy will have figures close to rabada as well.

Yea he has done better than a few other foreigners but there is only one Steyn. That's why Steyn is GOAT.

I will says this right now, if India prep the way Australia did for the away series in 2017, India will win the series again this year.

If they don't well they will lose a close one.
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I don't think Cummins was part of that particular training squad you are referring to. He wasn't prepared
for the 2017 test tour. The numbers prove your claim wrong. If he took 4 wickets and avged 40 , that statement would have a lil truth.

Im going by numbers in the past 5 years, not overall. Tim Southee also has a 7 fer in Nagpur, but he is seen as dud. Cuz 2015 is when non asian seamers became clueless in Asia.Steyn also could not get a single wicket in sri lanka in 2 tests or against india in 2015 when he was injured. All seamers, starc, broad, rabada, boult have been thrashed. Considering how bad foreign pacers were in Asia, Cummins has been impressive in his 4 tests in Asia. Again, If he wasn't injured for the UAE tour 2018, we would've seen his mettle.

He did have a poor series vs India in 2018, barring the 6 fer he got in Melbourne. Was comfortably outbowled by all Indian seamers.
Cummins does have a few tests where he bowls rubbish, but he comes back strongly in the last test. Bumrah has so far been consistent every single test

Bumrah is India's main limited overs bowlers, will be surprising if he can keep up the workload in tests
 
At age of 26,

Rabada has 197 test wickets.
Cummins has 146 test wickets.
Boomerang has 68 test wickets.

At age of 30,

Boult has 270 test wickets.
Starc has 250 test wickets.
Shami has 180 test wickets.
 
Ab Fan said:
At age of 26,

Rabada has 197 test wickets.
Cummins has 146 test wickets.
Boomerang has 68 test wickets.

At age of 30,

Boult has 270 test wickets.
Starc has 250 test wickets.
Shami has 180 test wickets.
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Bumrah may not even get 250 test wickets by the end of his career. To say he is the best test bowler after an overseas cycle on helpful pitches is absurd. Just look at stats of other indian bowler who played in that cycle. Shami and Ishant are better test bowlers and they have been brilliant on indian pitches also.
And the assumption that Bumrah will keep his FORM and FITNESS is absolutely stupid because a bowler will have bad patches and injuries along the way. He was exposed in NZ and has been exposed vs good batting line ups in ODIs.
Every bowler has injuries. Its no excuse. Just look at Starc and Cummins. They came back from injuries.
Some indians think that Bumrah will never have a bad phase and he is some kind of bowling God which is completely unfair Bumrah. Teams have now started to work him out a bit now
 
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