Senman
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Don't hate N_H, he is simply too much fun, don't be discouraged, believe me you will find him helpful 1.) if you want to relieve stress, 2.) when you have nothing to do.
May I ask why do you find such an interest for all things Indian![]()
Currency is not the only indicator, of wellness of economy.
From the link given on import bill(thanks Senman):
I see Petroleum is nearly 1/3rd and gold is more than 10%.
If all the subsidies are removed on oil, rupee will easily zoom to 40s level. But some subsidies are required to help the economy grow, i think.
But gold import should be discouraged,(its simply taking out money from the economic cycle) very sad fact when import duty on Gold was rolled back this year.
Subsidies on oil is all hocus-pocus. Taxes (both state and central) make up 50% of the amount we customer pay. Every time govt raises prices, the tax component too increases.
Besides the subsidies are totally misdirected and do not reach intended target. Diesel is the fuel of choice for middle and upper-middle class as they shift to diesel-powered cars. One of the the main uses of Kerosene is to adulterate Diesel. And LPG cylinders are also used by commercial establishments which drives up the subsidy bill.
There is hardly any subsidy on LPG for commercial use.And LPG cylinders are also used by commercial establishments which drives up the subsidy bill.
The hike was bare minimum from current 2% to 4%, not like the times of double digit duties in previous decades. Also, atleast the normal man would have reduced his over dumping into Gold.Import duty wouldnt have worked. Would have simply created black market and helped the smugglers get rich.
It is this boom that will hopefully reduce the amount of people in poverty in India. There was huge amounts of poverty in the UK at the start of the Industrial Revolution. Initially it was only the factory owners who got richer however this wealth slowly tickled down over the years improving the standards of living of the average person.
Poverty is never going to be eliminated overnight but standards of living will improve as India gets wealthier.
Asks the Indian on a Pakistani forum? Tsk Tsk
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Im here mainly for the cricket forum which is IMO the best of the lot. You still havent answered my question.![]()
^ Can you read? He asked why is NH obsessed with everything Indian, the irony of all you Indians having thousands of posts on a PAKISTANI forum was obviously lost on him (and you)
Ofcourse you weren;'t...very apt name you've got there
Whatever I say or do is always apt![]()
hey hopeless!! what brand are you man and the flavour??![]()
come in all brands and flavours...but since Indian economy is not going well..right now I am a limp biscuit..needing a boost just like the Indian rupee..
Come on man!! My portfolio went up by 10% today itself,
I am in a fix whether to book profits or wait for further jump.![]()
10% !! well done.
What do you think? Sensex heading towards 20k or not?
I think Morgan Stanley set a target around 23k already but dunno the timeframe.
Iranians are rioting on the streets because their currency is collapsing. Hyper inflation just round the corner; prices going through the roof.
The children of today believe currency is not only indicator of an economy. If only they'd read and pay heed.
Of course as the INR declines and inflation and prices heads into orbit, Indians in their millions will be rioting on the streets - scenes which will make Weimar Germany look like a love story.
Iranians are rioting on the streets because their currency is collapsing. Hyper inflation just round the corner; prices going through the roof.
The children of today believe currency is not only indicator of an economy. If only they'd read and pay heed.
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Isnt that true for almost every currency these days. BTW hyperinflation is very true in India. The official inflation rate is an underestimation. But the situation you are describing today will hit not only India but the whole world. Those who put their faith in currency OR GOLD will find them for what they are.....THEY ARE NOT FOOD. Starvation on a mass scale can become a very uncomfortable reality
I guess you will not be bumping this thread anytime in your life then.
PS: 40 odd posts towards 10000 is hardly a contribution of note, but thanks for pointing out the milestone!
I guess you will not be bumping this thread anytime in your life then.
PS: 40 odd posts towards 10000 is hardly a contribution of note, but thanks for pointing out the milestone!
don't curse me man. I want to live a long life, will bump it many times in my life don't worry.
I am surprised at how personal this thread has become!!
Just a spark over a few weeks has given voice to so many Indians and the OP has vanished
Rupee will continue to fluctuate in some range.
Won't be surprised by N_H's return to this thread with his thesis on economics when there is slight fall in rupee and market dips for awhile.
To the Indians who appear in this thread when the INR moves up in a hopeless blip - where are you?
How was INR doing today?
The differential between USD and INR has widened.
Plunge.
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I have been waiting for Rs to drop a little (temporarily), as I need to transfer a relatively larger amount to India. But Rs. is kinda range bound now.![]()
Yah, I have a time till End of Nov. Need to take whatever best I can get during that timeframe.target 54, then transfer.... will most likely stick in 52-53 range,
unless Romney wins and situation in Syria and Iran becomes a problem rupess may go down to 60, but that will take all worse scenarios till May next year!
The Day of Judgement beckons India in March 2013.
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India's industrial output registered a surprise fall in September, adding to concerns about slowing growth in the country's economy.
Factory output fell 0.4% from a year earlier. Most analysts had projected a rise of 2.8%.
Manufacturing activity, which accounts for almost two-thirds of overall output, fell 1.5% from a year earlier.
The weak data has once again raised calls for policymakers to boost stimulus measures to spur growth.
"We believe this is high time for the central government to restore the investment sentiment by implementing and introducing some more policy stimulus," said Shakti Satapathy an analyst with AK Capital in Mumbai.
'Balancing act'
Like many of its regional neighbours, India's economy has also been hurt by the economic slowdown in the US and eurozone - which has hurt demand for the region's exports.
In an attempt to offset the decline in foreign sales, India has been trying to boost its domestic consumption to sustain growth.
Last month, India's central bank, the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) lowered the amount of money that banks need to keep in reserves in a bid to boost lending.
The RBI said the move would inject 175bn rupees ($3.2bn; £2bn) into the market.
However, analysts have argued that injecting cash into the markets may not be enough and that the central bank needs to cut interest rates to bring down the burden on businesses and consumers.
For its part, the RBI has said that keeping inflation in check is one of its top priorities.
But Moses Harding, head of asset-liability management at IndusInd Bank said the bank needed to do a "balancing act between growth and inflation".
""The trend in growth and inflation is clear; downward pressure on growth and uptrend on inflation into the near term," he said.
India's industrial production dips 0.4% in September
Stimulus measures to spur growth? I wonder what such measures would entail? Ahh yes, PRINT PRINT PRINT.
PS: INR weakens further to 54.8201 on the news.
PPS: Got Gold?
MUMBAI--Fitch Ratings Monday said that India's economic growth in the current financial year through March is likely to slip to 6% from 6.5% in the previous year.
Citing recent gross domestic product figures which point to slowing growth, Fitch said in a press release that it expects the "economic recovery to be shallow."
The house expects the economy to clock 7.0% growth in the next financial year.
Fitch said that recent economic reforms announced by India's government will need time to show results, and that their implementation will face political challenges.
The report is in contrast to one earlier in the day from Morgan Stanley MS +0.06% (MS), which raised India's growth forecast to 5.4% from its earlier estimate of 5.1%.
Government data last week showed that the Indian economy grew at 5.3% in the July-September period, down from 5.5% in the April-June quarter.
While Fitch feels the July-September number is indicative of a slowing performance, Morgan Stanley has found growth to be better than expected.
Morgan Stanley said that growth, other than in the farm sector, has bottomed out while Fitch stated that tight fiscal and monetary policy settings decrease the scope to support growth in the midst of stubbornly high inflation and a commitment to consolidating public finances.
Last week, Goldman Sachs GS -0.79% (GS) raised its outlook on Indian equities to overweight from market weight, days after Moody's MCO +0.93% maintained a stable outlook on the country's sovereign rating.
The Day of Judgement beckons India in March 2013.
The INR is much stronger than last year. Why does it always happen when I have a plan to transfer a good amount ?Time to bump now that we are in March. 23 days more for the dooms day prophecy to play out.
The INR is much stronger than last year. Why does it always happen when I have a plan to transfer a good amount ?![]()
The INR is much stronger than last year. Why does it always happen when I have a plan to transfer a good amount ?![]()
There is still hope. It can all come crashing in the next 3 weeks as predicted by Salt_Lawful.
What ever happened to Namak_Halaal bhai?
The rupee has slumped 11 percent this year, touching a record low this week, and even this couldn't bring NH back.
India gripped by mood of crisis as rupee falls again
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The Indian rupee fell to a new low against the dollar on Wednesday and stocks declined after a central bank promise to inject liquidity into the country’s financial markets provided only temporary relief from a deepening sense of crisis.
Bank shares and bond prices had jumped in the morning after the Reserve Bank of India’s latest intervention, but the euphoria quickly evaporated.
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At one point the rupee was down over 2 per cent and hit a record low of Rs64.55 to the dollar amid investor scepticism about the policies of the RBI and the Indian government. The Sensex stock index fell nearly 2 per cent to close at 17,905.91, the lowest in nearly a year.
On Tuesday night the RBI announced that it would purchase Rs80bn ($1.2bn) of long-dated government bonds and take other steps to ease pressures on Indian banks, whose valuations have been badly hit by a series of measures introduced to protect the rupee over the past month.
The latest moves partially reversed previous monetary tightening measures and led to accusations from analysts of Indian policy “flip-flops” just as the governorship of the RBI is passing from Duvvuri Subbarao to Raghuram Rajan, the former International Monetary Fund chief economist who takes over on September 5.
Indian officials and central bankers say their economy is only one of several emerging markets that are suffering from the flight of investors back towards the US, where the prospect of an end to the Federal Reserve’s ultra-easy monetary policies has made dollar assets more attractive.
“It is important to address the risks to macroeconomic stability,” the RBI said in an explanation of its latest move. “At the same time, it is also important to ensure that the liquidity tightening does not harden longer term yields sharply and adversely impact the flow of credit to the productive sectors of the economy.”
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The government and the RBI have issued a series of edicts in recent days designed to reduce the current account deficit and bolster the rupee, including increases in the import duty on gold, the end of duty exemptions for flatscreen televisions brought in by airline passengers and restrictions on outward direct investment by Indian companies and individuals.
Far from reassuring investors, however, the hotch-potch of measures has created the impression that the Indian authorities are flailing around for stopgap solutions rather than devising any long-term strategies for economic recovery.
“India’s central bank is adding to its woes by appearing to change its policy goals almost from one day to the next,” said Nicholas Spiro of London-based Spiro Sovereign Strategy, arguing that the RBI was now sending a “dangerous signal” that it did not have the stomach to defend the rupee if the flight from emerging markets worsened.
While the RBI’s aims of promoting growth and preventing rupee depreciation were inherently contradictory, he said, “credibility and predictability are precious commodities in the world of central banking – not least when a financial crisis is raging. Right now, the RBI conspicuously lacks both.”
Rajeev Malik, senior Asia-Pacific economist at brokerage CLSA, wrote in a note that “flip-flops” by Indian policy makers were continuing.
“The latest moves by the RBI are aimed at cleaning up the unintended mess in the bond market from their convoluted and ineffective currency defence,” he said. “But they still appear unsure of what [growth, rupee, bonds] they want to eventually save.”
Other analysts said the measures were likely to be at least partially successful in correcting the unintended consequences of previous tightening measures.
“They have been trying to walk a careful balance, with measures aiming to stabilise the currency, but they never really intended it to spill over to long-term yields, which have been shooting up,” says Leif Eskesen, chief economist for India at HSBC.
“And so they are now trying to ensure that they don’t do anything to hurt growth and curb credit growth ... and this should to some extent help to contain yields, although there is still a difficult backdrop.”
Welll INR will remain stronger as long as dollar,euro,pound arent going down. We have to remain competetive wrt All these currencies. ALL is the key word here.
With all the RBI’s policies to defend the rupee, from raising short term interest rates by 300 basis points to imposing capital controls, coming to naught, RBI governor Dr. Subba Rao has taken the radical step of replacing the Indian rupee with the ubiquitous onion to stem the domestic currency’s slide and regain parity with the dollar. A kg of onions will now replace Rs. 100 as legal tender all over the country and more importantly fetch a dollar in the foreign exchange markets. Currency mints in Noida, Hyderabad, Mumbai and Kolkata have accordingly been converted into onion farms.
The RBI governor revealed that this solution struck him after he noticed that both the dollar and a kilogram of onion were moving in tandem towards the Rs.100 mark while he was peering over market data. “After that, the solution pretty much unraveled itself in my mind,” a teary eyed Rao told . “Anyway, with people now preferring to transact in onions rather than rupee notes, especially those carrying the signature of Dr. Manmohan Singh, the move was inevitable,” he added.
The commentariat including economists of various hues have by and large hailed the move. “This out of the box measure limits the ability of both the Union Government and the ISI to do long term damage to the economy by resorting to seigniorage (revenue from printing notes) to finance their schemes,” noted Dr. Vodoo Sen, a very famous economist.
The Finance Ministry has predictably lashed out at the RBI for this radical monetary intervention. “Where will we get the extra onions to now buy food-grains for implementing the Food Security Bill?” thundered Finance Minister Chidambaram. “Plunge a dagger into our heart but don’t take away our right to finance populist schemes by creating money out of thin air,” he wailed.
Union Rural Development Minister Jairam Ramesh was also glum on hearing about the move. “It’s back to the drawing board for us now to draw up revised guidelines for a DoT (Direct Onion Transfer) in place of a Direct Cash Transfer (DCT) program,” he remarked lugubriously. The radical monetary intervention has also poured cold water over the plans by Mylapore vaadhiyars for performing a grand sadabhishekam ceremony for the Indian rupee in anticipation of breaching the Rs 80/US Dollar mark.
RIP . Was he very old ?I think he got banned or died :/
RIP . Was he very old ?
To economy geeks, what determines the currency value provided the government isn't artificially manipulating ?
To economy geeks, what determines the currency value provided the government isn't artificially manipulating ?