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Indian scam call centers looted over $10 billion in 11 months from US senior citizens

Trump should probably pour money into prime time ads educating senior citizens about the grand tradition of Indian call scams, because, clearly, that would be way more effective than expecting Modi to go after the millions of scammers running wild in India.
 
HalBass9 said:
Trump should probably pour money into prime time ads educating senior citizens about the grand tradition of Indian call scams, because, clearly, that would be way more effective than expecting Modi to go after the millions of scammers running wild in India.
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He wants to pour millions in Gaza to build casino and bars too. As a businessman that might be his priority. Obviously there will be jobs and infrastructure so time to put the welfare/ aid money to use to stop this evil plan. Again wrong focus
 
DeadlyVenom said:
What sort of cooperation does Modi need to clamp down on scammers at home?

He has been in power 13 years but needs Trump to hold his hand to point out the scammers.
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Terrorists, criminals, scammers, mafia: one thing at a time. At least for now mafia and terror seems to be in check. Thanks for the concern about India.

Why is Pakistan not producing scammers? Is it because the moment they speak like Inzi, the jig is getting up?
 
Local.Dada said:
Terrorists, criminals, scammers, mafia: one thing at a time. At least for now mafia and terror seems to be in check. Thanks for the concern about India.

Why is Pakistan not producing scammers? Is it because the moment they speak like Inzi, the jig is getting up?
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Lol what a beautiful insight into the Indian psyche

"Why isn't your country producing scammers"

What the heck kind of mentality is this.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Lol what a beautiful insight into the Indian psyche

"Why isn't your country producing scammers"

What the heck kind of mentality is this.
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Not mentality, legitimate question. In every other negative bench mark Pakistan goes toe to toe and even over performs in comparison.

I am assuming this might be due to lack of communication or tech skills because even for scamming I am assuming you need those.

Crime, mafia, terrorism benchmarks are solid but why no scammers? Interesting.
 
Local.Dada said:
Not mentality, legitimate question. In every other negative bench mark Pakistan goes toe to toe and even over performs in comparison.

I am assuming this might be due to lack of communication or tech skills because even for scamming I am assuming you need those.

Crime, mafia, terrorism benchmarks are solid but why no scammers? Interesting.
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I love how you try to diss Pakistan but accidentally end up confirming everything India’s been accused of without even realizing it. Truly, top tier entertainment
LOL
 
DeadlyVenom said:
What sort of cooperation does Modi need to clamp down on scammers at home?

He has been in power 13 years but needs Trump to hold his hand to point out the scammers.
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Nope.
Why will Indian government care when the victims are US citizens? The pressure needs to come from US on India. US governments were not sincere enough to pressure Indian government, working with them and catching the scammers.

If any President can eliminate these scammers for the roaches they are, it has to be Trump 2.0. If he does not do it, then it will only encourage more of these scam centers in India to operate.

Another thing is, the local governments in India very well know who these people are. They get paid their cut from this scam. I have said this before, the rot runs deep. FBI has to work with CBI in India to put an end to this menace. Inaction will only encourage more scammers to mushroom up.
 
This won't be solved by Trump, leave alone low-IQ Modi.

There will hopefully be some technological change (AI or otherwise) that will naturally curb these scammers' operations. That, along with the older demographic that are typically the target of these scams ageing out and moving on.
 
Local.Dada said:
He wants to pour millions in Gaza to build casino and bars too. As a businessman that might be his priority. Obviously there will be jobs and infrastructure so time to put the welfare/ aid money to use to stop this evil plan. Again wrong focus
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You don’t have to go full defense attorney for every sketchy move your fellow countrymen pull, it just makes you look hilariously triggered, especially when your response is about as relevant as a weather report in space.

Looks like those WhatsApp brainwashing sessions have done a number on you, always locked and loaded to defend the cult like it's a full time job.
 
HalBass9 said:
You don’t have to go full defense attorney for every sketchy move your fellow countrymen pull, it just makes you look hilariously triggered, especially when your response is about as relevant as a weather report in space.

Looks like those WhatsApp brainwashing sessions have done a number on you, always locked and loaded to defend the cult like it's a full time job.
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Only people who tend to defend scammers are scammers themselves. :inti

Considering there are a large number of Indian posters here, it is a statistical probability there could be one or two Indian scammers here too. Maybe we are interacting with one on this thread.

:qdkcheeky
 
Stumbled upon this today. I must say I am not surprised. :inti

On July 22, 2022, a former Coinbase product manager, Ishan Wahi, along with Nikhil Wahi (Ishan's brother) and Sameer Ramani (a friend), was charged in the first-ever insider trading case in cryptocurrency by prosecutors for the Southern District of New York and the Securities and Exchange Commission. According to the complaint filed in SEC v. Wahi, Ishan Wahi allegedly shared information that certain tokens were about to be listed by Coinbase with Nikhil Wahi and Ramani, who then allegedly acted upon that information to make trades for an alleged illicit profit over US$1.5 million. According to federal prosecutors, Ishan Wahi purchased a one-way ticket to India upon being summoned by Coinbase to the company's Seattle office for a meeting. Wahi was subsequently intercepted by law enforcement from boarding a May 16 flight to India. Coinbase's chief security officer, Philip Martin, noted that the company provided prosecutors with information from an internal investigation.

On January 10, 2023, Nikhil Wahi was sentenced to ten months in prison after he admitted to making trades based on confidential information from Coinbase. U.S. District Judge Loretta Preska said Wahi's crime was "not an isolated error in judgment." Ishan Wahi originally pleaded not guilty but entered a guilty plea on February 7, 2023. On May 9, 2023, Ishan Wahi was sentenced to two years in prison and ordered to forfeit various crypto assets that he received in connection with the scheme. Ramani remains at large.
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Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coinbase#Insider_trading.
 
Local.Dada said:
Terrorists, criminals, scammers, mafia: one thing at a time. At least for now mafia and terror seems to be in check. Thanks for the concern about India.

Why is Pakistan not producing scammers? Is it because the moment they speak like Inzi, the jig is getting up?
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iNZI knew how to bat, scammers know how to speak a foreign language to cheat people out of their money. I don't know if you are claiming a win here or showing remorse. LOL
 

'Escaping hell': Myanmar scam centre workers plead to go home​

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Hundreds of exhausted young men lie in an open-sided detention centre in a seedy Myanmar border town, sweating through thick tropical heat by day and prey to clouds of mosquitoes by night.

They are among some 7,000 people from more than two dozen countries released from scam compounds who are now enduring a gruelling wait to be sent home through Thailand.

Conditions in the overcrowded temporary camp visited by AFP in the town of Myawaddy, near the Thai border, were squalid and those held there were begging to leave.

"It's really no good," one 18-year-old Malaysian man told AFP, saying the toilets and showers were so dirty they were unusable.

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Thailand's scam centre crackdown not enough, top lawmaker warns

An ongoing effort targeting scam compounds along Thailand's border with Myanmar has led to only a small proportion of workers there being pulled out, a top Thai opposition lawmaker said, calling for more comprehensive measures to stomp out a booming illegal industry. Thailand - backed by China...
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Time for India to act tough and weed out these scam call centers. I hope Modi government works with FBI and arrest these online criminals.
 
sweep_shot said:
My father's WhatsApp has been hacked. Scammer sent me the below message on WhatsApp.

Anyway, I let him know I caught him and I urged him to earn money honestly. :inti

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I wanna share my story as well bro. Will ping @daytrader as well since he's Canadian and might be interested. I didn't get scammed btw.

3 months ago I got a called from a +91 number which is the Indian country code. Their was an Indian women on the line with a very Indian accent but she called herself esme carter and claimed she's an immigration lawyer working for MDC Canada.

She then started asking me questions such as my date of birth, Name, age, Reasons for wanting to move to Canada, family relatives living in Canada.

At first I was confused, cause I never applied, and I have zero interest in Canada, and secondly how on earth did she even get my number? But then I realised it's a scam so I decided to play along.

I lied ans claimed that my name was sanga dilshan dharan 🤣, and said that I want to move to Canada to play the Canadian league and have dreams of becoming a cricket star. I then started claiming that was playing for the under 19 Australian team and was mentored by Usman Khawaja.

Anyway she literally replied with okay and said that they will call me tmr and finalise everything.

I thought that she had gotten the message and knew it was a troll, but surprisingly they called the next day 🤣🤣.

This time it was another Indian guy who called himself vince carter. He sent me a badly written email that claimed that I was eligible for a student visa, and that I had to pay 3000 usd to get it.

^^ This didn't make any sense.

Firstly, Why would a Canadian company call from an Indian number, Secondly how can you issue a student visa if you aren't enrolled in a university? And lastly, since when do Candadian companies charge in USD? Don't they charge in CAD?

I told them that I won't pay and I will have my immigration lawyer look at it first. He then got mad and abusive and I hung up.

The very next day they called and claimed that they have a cricketer visa for me 🤣🤣, the visa was for marriage aka that they can have never marry a girl from Canada who loves cricket and I can get my Canadian passport. I just have to pay 3000 USD for the wedding 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

I genuinely couldn't stop laughing even when they claimed they were serious.

Anyway I hung up, they called with different numbers a few more times but I always declined and blocked the numbers and then they never called again.

I guess they probably ran out of the 25+ numbers i blocked.
 
mominsaigol said:
I wanna share my story as well bro. Will ping @daytrader as well since he's Canadian and might be interested. I didn't get scammed btw.

3 months ago I got a called from a +91 number which is the Indian country code. Their was an Indian women on the line with a very Indian accent but she called herself esme carter and claimed she's an immigration lawyer working for MDC Canada.

She then started asking me questions such as my date of birth, Name, age, Reasons for wanting to move to Canada, family relatives living in Canada.

At first I was confused, cause I never applied, and I have zero interest in Canada, and secondly how on earth did she even get my number? But then I realised it's a scam so I decided to play along.

I lied ans claimed that my name was sanga dilshan dharan 🤣, and said that I want to move to Canada to play the Canadian league and have dreams of becoming a cricket star. I then started claiming that was playing for the under 19 Australian team and was mentored by Usman Khawaja.

Anyway she literally replied with okay and said that they will call me tmr and finalise everything.

I thought that she had gotten the message and knew it was a troll, but surprisingly they called the next day 🤣🤣.

This time it was another Indian guy who called himself vince carter. He sent me a badly written email that claimed that I was eligible for a student visa, and that I had to pay 3000 usd to get it.

^^ This didn't make any sense.

Firstly, Why would a Canadian company call from an Indian number, Secondly how can you issue a student visa if you aren't enrolled in a university? And lastly, since when do Candadian companies charge in USD? Don't they charge in CAD?

I told them that I won't pay and I will have my immigration lawyer look at it first. He then got mad and abusive and I hung up.

The very next day they called and claimed that they have a cricketer visa for me 🤣🤣, the visa was for marriage aka that they can have never marry a girl from Canada who loves cricket and I can get my Canadian passport. I just have to pay 3000 USD for the wedding 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

I genuinely couldn't stop laughing even when they claimed they were serious.

Anyway I hung up, they called with different numbers a few more times but I always declined and blocked the numbers and then they never called again.

I guess they probably ran out of the 25+ numbers i blocked.
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mominsaigol said:
I wanna share my story as well bro. Will ping @daytrader as well since he's Canadian and might be interested. I didn't get scammed btw.

3 months ago I got a called from a +91 number which is the Indian country code. Their was an Indian women on the line with a very Indian accent but she called herself esme carter and claimed she's an immigration lawyer working for MDC Canada.

She then started asking me questions such as my date of birth, Name, age, Reasons for wanting to move to Canada, family relatives living in Canada.

At first I was confused, cause I never applied, and I have zero interest in Canada, and secondly how on earth did she even get my number? But then I realised it's a scam so I decided to play along.

I lied ans claimed that my name was sanga dilshan dharan 🤣, and said that I want to move to Canada to play the Canadian league and have dreams of becoming a cricket star. I then started claiming that was playing for the under 19 Australian team and was mentored by Usman Khawaja.

Anyway she literally replied with okay and said that they will call me tmr and finalise everything.

I thought that she had gotten the message and knew it was a troll, but surprisingly they called the next day 🤣🤣.

This time it was another Indian guy who called himself vince carter. He sent me a badly written email that claimed that I was eligible for a student visa, and that I had to pay 3000 usd to get it.

^^ This didn't make any sense.

Firstly, Why would a Canadian company call from an Indian number, Secondly how can you issue a student visa if you aren't enrolled in a university? And lastly, since when do Candadian companies charge in USD? Don't they charge in CAD?

I told them that I won't pay and I will have my immigration lawyer look at it first. He then got mad and abusive and I hung up.

The very next day they called and claimed that they have a cricketer visa for me 🤣🤣, the visa was for marriage aka that they can have never marry a girl from Canada who loves cricket and I can get my Canadian passport. I just have to pay 3000 USD for the wedding 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

I genuinely couldn't stop laughing even when they claimed they were serious.

Anyway I hung up, they called with different numbers a few more times but I always declined and blocked the numbers and then they never called again.

I guess they probably ran out of the 25+ numbers i blocked.
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Happens with me everyday.'
mominsaigol said:
I wanna share my story as well bro. Will ping @daytrader as well since he's Canadian and might be interested. I didn't get scammed btw.

3 months ago I got a called from a +91 number which is the Indian country code. Their was an Indian women on the line with a very Indian accent but she called herself esme carter and claimed she's an immigration lawyer working for MDC Canada.

She then started asking me questions such as my date of birth, Name, age, Reasons for wanting to move to Canada, family relatives living in Canada.

At first I was confused, cause I never applied, and I have zero interest in Canada, and secondly how on earth did she even get my number? But then I realised it's a scam so I decided to play along.

I lied ans claimed that my name was sanga dilshan dharan 🤣, and said that I want to move to Canada to play the Canadian league and have dreams of becoming a cricket star. I then started claiming that was playing for the under 19 Australian team and was mentored by Usman Khawaja.

Anyway she literally replied with okay and said that they will call me tmr and finalise everything.

I thought that she had gotten the message and knew it was a troll, but surprisingly they called the next day 🤣🤣.

This time it was another Indian guy who called himself vince carter. He sent me a badly written email that claimed that I was eligible for a student visa, and that I had to pay 3000 usd to get it.

^^ This didn't make any sense.

Firstly, Why would a Canadian company call from an Indian number, Secondly how can you issue a student visa if you aren't enrolled in a university? And lastly, since when do Candadian companies charge in USD? Don't they charge in CAD?

I told them that I won't pay and I will have my immigration lawyer look at it first. He then got mad and abusive and I hung up.

The very next day they called and claimed that they have a cricketer visa for me 🤣🤣, the visa was for marriage aka that they can have never marry a girl from Canada who loves cricket and I can get my Canadian passport. I just have to pay 3000 USD for the wedding 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

I genuinely couldn't stop laughing even when they claimed they were serious.

Anyway I hung up, they called with different numbers a few more times but I always declined and blocked the numbers and then they never called again.

I guess they probably ran out of the 25+ numbers i blocked.
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Happens with me every other day.
Just give them a few gaalis and they shut up.
 
jamie smith said:
Happens with me everyday.'

Happens with me every other day.
Just give them a few gaalis and they shut up.
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I am genuinely confused though about a few things. Cause when I tell this story to others, most don't believe me cause it's just that absurd.

A) Did the people who were calling really think I wouldn't get suspicious of a company claiming to be Canadian despite calling from an Indian number?

B) And if you're Indian with an Indian accent, why do you expect people to believe you if you call yourself esme or vince? Why not use Indian names? Their lots of Indians in Canada, so if you want to fool people, maybe use an Indian name? Lol.

C) How on earth could they not tell that i was trolling by claiming I'm a cricket player 😳? I tried my hardest to troll? Or were they that desperate for my money that they didn't care?

D) why such a weak scam? First an Indian number claiming to be Canadian, then why target me? Why not target someone who's actually desperate to immigrate to Canada? It doesn't make any sense to target someone who's already in Australia? Then why are you charging in us dollars? That's a dead give away? And why are you offering student visas to a guy who literally just told you he wants to play cricket in a Canadian league 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

And finally

E) marriage and 3000 dollars for a wedding? Kuda ka kei wastei yaar.

What's worse is that i checked quora and resdit and their some people who actually fell for this scam?

But I'm guessing they were desperate for the money..I've seen youtube channels were scammers pretend to be joe Biden lol.
 
mominsaigol said:
I am genuinely confused though about a few things. Cause when I tell this story to others, most don't believe me cause it's just that absurd.

A) Did the people who were calling really think I wouldn't get suspicious of a company claiming to be Canadian despite calling from an Indian number?

B) And if you're Indian with an Indian accent, why do you expect people to believe you if you call yourself esme or vince? Why not use Indian names? Their lots of Indians in Canada, so if you want to fool people, maybe use an Indian name? Lol.

C) How on earth could they not tell that i was trolling by claiming I'm a cricket player 😳? I tried my hardest to troll? Or were they that desperate for my money that they didn't care?

D) why such a weak scam? First an Indian number claiming to be Canadian, then why target me? Why not target someone who's actually desperate to immigrate to Canada? It doesn't make any sense to target someone who's already in Australia? Then why are you charging in us dollars? That's a dead give away? And why are you offering student visas to a guy who literally just told you he wants to play cricket in a Canadian league 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

And finally

E) marriage and 3000 dollars for a wedding? Kuda ka kei wastei yaar.

What's worse is that i checked quora and resdit and their some people who actually fell for this scam?

But I'm guessing they were desperate for the money..I've seen youtube channels were scammers pretend to be joe Biden lol.
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I bet u have not seen laptop scams in ireland and england.

It is true thousands of Indians also fall in this trap mostly the illetrate women,old people and farmers etc.
 
jamie smith said:
I bet u have not seen laptop scams in ireland and england.

It is true thousands of Indians also fall in this trap mostly the illetrate women,old people and farmers etc.
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I follow one scam channel on youtube by the name of kitboga.

He makes people laugh by trolling scammers however he also provides much needed information on all types of scams related to

A) Refund scams

B) Immigration scams

C) Travel and hotel booking scams

D) Banking scams

E) lottery scams

F) Crypto and bitcoin scams

G) Identity theft and identity fraud

He use to only target scam call centers in India but now he targets all scam call centers. It's not just India, dozens of American, British, Flippine, Australian, Canadian and many other scammers in the market.

You know ots a shame since many of these people would probably get hired at legitimate call centers.
 
mominsaigol said:
I wanna share my story as well bro. Will ping @daytrader as well since he's Canadian and might be interested. I didn't get scammed btw.

3 months ago I got a called from a +91 number which is the Indian country code. Their was an Indian women on the line with a very Indian accent but she called herself esme carter and claimed she's an immigration lawyer working for MDC Canada.

She then started asking me questions such as my date of birth, Name, age, Reasons for wanting to move to Canada, family relatives living in Canada.

At first I was confused, cause I never applied, and I have zero interest in Canada, and secondly how on earth did she even get my number? But then I realised it's a scam so I decided to play along.

I lied ans claimed that my name was sanga dilshan dharan 🤣, and said that I want to move to Canada to play the Canadian league and have dreams of becoming a cricket star. I then started claiming that was playing for the under 19 Australian team and was mentored by Usman Khawaja.

Anyway she literally replied with okay and said that they will call me tmr and finalise everything.

I thought that she had gotten the message and knew it was a troll, but surprisingly they called the next day 🤣🤣.

This time it was another Indian guy who called himself vince carter. He sent me a badly written email that claimed that I was eligible for a student visa, and that I had to pay 3000 usd to get it.

^^ This didn't make any sense.

Firstly, Why would a Canadian company call from an Indian number, Secondly how can you issue a student visa if you aren't enrolled in a university? And lastly, since when do Candadian companies charge in USD? Don't they charge in CAD?

I told them that I won't pay and I will have my immigration lawyer look at it first. He then got mad and abusive and I hung up.

The very next day they called and claimed that they have a cricketer visa for me 🤣🤣, the visa was for marriage aka that they can have never marry a girl from Canada who loves cricket and I can get my Canadian passport. I just have to pay 3000 USD for the wedding 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

I genuinely couldn't stop laughing even when they claimed they were serious.

Anyway I hung up, they called with different numbers a few more times but I always declined and blocked the numbers and then they never called again.

I guess they probably ran out of the 25+ numbers i blocked.
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Very common, unfortunately scams on immigration promises extend beyond the phone. People will scam face to face. Just something about emmigrating to a first world country that is too enticing for people in the sub continent that they forego their common sense. Good on you to play with the scammer. I would do the same. Blocking numbers though only goes so far as they'll just share with other agencies. I have a very old number and the amount of scam calls I get is ridiculous. Even though Canada has a Do Not Solicit list where my number is registered, it doesn’t prevent overseas and spoof numbers. I just hang up now, which is the easiest way out.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Beware the indian scammers are now using local mobile numbers and using AI or voice changing tech so you cant hear their dreadful accents.
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Somebody just called me from such a number, my phone usually is on do not disturb so I miss these calls, if there’s something urgent, you should get a voicemail right. You can google the numbers sometimes as well. As soon as I hear the accent in the instance I do get caught, I cut off quicker then the speed of an Amir Khan jab. The vermin is getting sharper though, they once called a family member from a number disguised as a McDonald’s restaurant lol
 
shaz619 said:
Somebody just called me from such a number, my phone usually is on do not disturb so I miss these calls, if there’s something urgent, you should get a voicemail right. You can google the numbers sometimes as well. As soon as I hear the accent in the instance I do get caught, I cut off quicker then the speed of an Amir Khan jab. The vermin is getting sharper though, they once called a family member from a number disguised as a McDonald’s restaurant lol
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Ive had a few over the last couple of months, when its a mobile number I answer as it maybe someone I know who is in an emergency using someones phone. One was something about me winning the lottery in an English computer accent. I replied I dont play the lottery, it replied the same question..... I then replied in my best Indian accent the same... and the cheek of it, replied I dont understand! lol
 
How am I not surprised? Thats one of Indian expertise. Scamming. I used to get dodgy calls me back in the early 2010s. But knew how to handle the scamming rats.
 
Just had another call from a UK mobile number from an Indian accent woman calling herself Myra, claiming she is from 3 mobile network. I asked her why is she calling from her private mobile number if she is from 3? She put the phone down. lol

It does get annoying esp having to hear that horrible accent.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Beware the indian scammers are now using local mobile numbers and using AI or voice changing tech so you cant hear their dreadful accents.
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Local number spoofing has been happening for years here in the US. I get calls from "local" numbers all the time but the accents are easily identifiable as Indian. So far I have not heard any that may warrant as AI disguised.

But here is another attempt at scam from them that I have seen lately.

You get an email from allegedly Best Buy Geek Squad or PayPal with an invoice for a purchase in hundreds sometimes thousands of US dollars charged to an unmentioned credit card or checking account in your name -- and a toll free 855 or 888 number to call back. When you call back, an easily recognized Indian scammer will tell you he belongs to the fraud center department of {xyz} company and start asking you for your personal information to investigate the charge to your account (which is of course fake). Some people fall in the trap thinking the charge is perhaps pending on one of their accounts which is why they cant see it .. and in their panic give their personal information and sometimes even credit card and banking information.

Be CAREFUL!
 
KingKhanWC said:
Just had another call from a UK mobile number from an Indian accent woman calling herself Myra, claiming she is from 3 mobile network. I asked her why is she calling from her private mobile number if she is from 3? She put the phone down. lol

It does get annoying esp having to hear that horrible accent.
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Literally just got one from "James" from Tesco mobile!
 
Stewie said:
Local number spoofing has been happening for years here in the US. I get calls from "local" numbers all the time but the accents are easily identifiable as Indian. So far I have not heard any that may warrant as AI disguised.

But here is another attempt at scam from them that I have seen lately.

You get an email from allegedly Best Buy Geek Squad or PayPal with an invoice for a purchase in hundreds sometimes thousands of US dollars charged to an unmentioned credit card or checking account in your name -- and a toll free 855 or 888 number to call back. When you call back, an easily recognized Indian scammer will tell you he belongs to the fraud center department of {xyz} company and start asking you for your personal information to investigate the charge to your account (which is of course fake). Some people fall in the trap thinking the charge is perhaps pending on one of their accounts which is why they cant see it .. and in their panic give their personal information and sometimes even credit card and banking information.

Be CAREFUL!
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Good advice!

There are a lot of the elder generation of British or Americans who are lovely people, trusting and fall for this. Sadly the vulnerable are targeted and often are scammed.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Im beginning to think do they read PP or are they posters on here? :yk

Was it a mobile number and if you try calling back it says number doesnt exist?
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yeah mobile number you can't call back.

maybe our very own @James is actually an Indian scammer on a long data gathering mission on PP
 
KingKhanWC said:
Good advice!

There are a lot of the elder generation of British or Americans who are lovely people, trusting and fall for this. Sadly the vulnerable are targeted and often are scammed.
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Well that's the age group they are targeting. I am not exactly a senior citizen but still get these calls for some reason. I have actually started sounding old on the phone when I see an unrecognized number so I can just string them along for a bit. LOL

In the end they get an earful from me before they hang up.
 
Seems to me that if someone in Pakistan wanted to make a lot of money working with US multinationals they'd start a professional scambaiting firm that worked in fund recoveries from Indian scammers. Not to mention it would certainly elevate Pakistan's profile.
 
Stewie said:
Well that's the age group they are targeting. I am not exactly a senior citizen but still get these calls for some reason. I have actually started sounding old on the phone when I see an unrecognized number so I can just string them along for a bit. LOL

In the end they get an earful from me before they hang up.
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Another one today.

This one you call back lol ...02046010294 . Be aware if this number calls you .
 
One of my favourite Indian scams were from kitoboga channel, they called him claiming to be Microsoft employees (Adam and Alex).

Adam lied about sending him too much money and hence wanted the money back.

It was funny cause he was saying "Please madam, buy me Google play cards, Please madam save my company, they didnt let me go home madam"

^^ This is funny cause I didn't know that Microsoft was in duch dire straits that they had to depend on old people for charity 🤣.

And kitboga was like "Adam, bro forget about 3000 dollars. You said Microsoft just held an employee against their will, that's a multi million dollar lawsuit waiting to happen"
 
mominsaigol said:
One of my favourite Indian scams were from kitoboga channel, they called him claiming to be Microsoft employees (Adam and Alex).

Adam lied about sending him too much money and hence wanted the money back.

It was funny cause he was saying "Please madam, buy me Google play cards, Please madam save my company, they didnt let me go home madam"

^^ This is funny cause I didn't know that Microsoft was in duch dire straits that they had to depend on old people for charity 🤣.

And kitboga was like "Adam, bro forget about 3000 dollars. You said Microsoft just held an employee against their will, that's a multi million dollar lawsuit waiting to happen"
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The same thing happened with Pirogi. That was funny as hell.

These scammers are so desperate that they will keep on call for hours and hours and in the end, if they find pirogi etc, they just rage... FUNNNY
 
I always joke that I get 5 scam calls a day in Vancouver Canada, 2 from China, 2 from India and 1 from Nigeria.

Here's one such specimen, Siri's Hindi translation is atrocious but you get the drift -



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Tera Gawaandi said:
I always joke that I get 5 scam calls a day in Vancouver Canada, 2 from China, 2 from India and 1 from Nigeria.

Here's one such specimen, Siri's Hindi translation is atrocious but you get the drift -



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You know I've never received a call from a Chinese scammer!

Indian mainly with the odd Nigerian and Egyptian but I never knew the Chinese were at it too. Was it Canadian Chinese or from China?
 
Have received a few calls, never understand why they still stick with the same old tricks of using names like "George Washigton" and "John Washing powder" when majority can easily tell it's a Rakesh or Ramesh with a thick accent. They try so hard that they end up sounding terrible version of desi thick texan accent lol. Feel bad for the old people they prey on to steal their left over life savings, what a disgusting bunch
 
DeadlyVenom said:
You know I've never received a call from a Chinese scammer!

Indian mainly with the odd Nigerian and Egyptian but I never knew the Chinese were at it too. Was it Canadian Chinese or from China?
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The chinese ones are more likely to send random text or telegram messages. It's always the same play:
"Hi, can we golf today?"
Me:" this isn't the correct number"
Them: "Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm Michelle, what's your name. Also, here's my beautiful picture of myself that just so happens to be a good looking Chinese woman"
Then it devolves off into random talk about their businesses or their luxury travels or their exotic cars. I even owned a McClaren at one point so it was hilarious watching them pretend to own a Ferrari. Or somehow take a widebody flight from Vancouver to the Canadian rockies (where there are no airports large enough to accommodate widebodies). It was even funnier watching them try to brazenly claim "oh what do you know" when I called them on it.

The funniest was when they tried to message me from the same account twice months apart! I had to respond and point out they had already messaged me from that number.

The latest one is a bit more serious though-fake toll violation notices.
 
Ita been over a week and no scam call ? 🤔

Are the indian based scammers on military deployment?

We will defeat Pakistan by calling their number until death :sachin
 
LOL. This was fun to watch. The scam-buster guy actually went inside the scammer's building. :yk

 
LOL. This was a funny interaction. A hacker hacked into an Indian scammer's system. Scammer was based in Kolkata. :yk

 
As I said there is a bottom of the barrell in every society. For example Pakistani beggars in the holy city of Mecca or even in remote parts of the world have caused ruckus all over or not to forget all the UN designated terrorists.

Similarly poor Bangladeshis are known to breed like rabbits and jump the fence for better lives.

Unfortunately being extremely tech savvy, good communication skills and high IQ among such lower strata has generated these Indian scammers I guess.

Poverty and desperation usually leads into all these issues.

Maybe being a zombie terrorist or a desperate beggar works out better than a scammer with tech skills and intelligence which definetely is more dangerous 🤔 Thought of the day 👍
 
Hahahahahahaha! :yk

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Builder.ai Collapses: $1.5bn 'AI' Startup Exposed as 'Actually Indians' Pretending to Be Bots​

This collapse signals wider AI startup turbulence due to hype over substance, with QIA losing $250M​


The tech world is reeling from revelations that Builder.ai, once hailed as a $1.5 billion (£1.11 billion), 'AI' powerhouse, now faces scrutiny as its highly promoted artificial intelligence facade crumbles, revealing a human-powered operation behind the cutting-edge AI automation.

Builder.ai, the British no-code AI startup that once garnered acclaim for its strategic partnership with Microsoft and secured a $250 million (£184.64 million) investment led by the Qatar Investment Authority, declared Tuesday that it is initiating bankruptcy protection.

As reported by Bloomberg, the company's dramatic decline occurred after a key lender, Viola Credit, withdrew $37 million (£27.33 million) from its accounts, leaving a mere $5 million (£3.69 million) in restricted funds and effectively paralysing operations in five nations.

Earlier this year, CEO Manpreet Ratia took over from founder Sachin Dev Duggal in a boardroom shake-up designed to restore investor confidence. Ratia has since stated that most of the company's workforce has been laid off. As Bloomberg reports, Builder.ai will now commence bankruptcy filings in its operational territories, including the UK, US, UAE, Singapore, and India.

Builder.ai's $450 Million Funding: Big Names, Big Promises​

Launched in 2016, Builder.ai presented itself as a groundbreaking platform, allowing businesses to create customised applications with minimal coding, leveraging artificial intelligence. As reported by Bloomberg, the company accumulated over $450 million (£332.36 million) in total funding, drawing in prominent investors such as Microsoft, the World Bank's IFC, Jeffrey Katzenberg's WndrCo, Lakestar, and SoftBank's DeepCore incubator.

Less than two months ago, Builder.ai admitted to revising down core sales numbers and engaging auditors to inspect its financials for the past two years. This came amidst concerns from former employees who suggested sales performance had been inflated during prior investor briefings.

'Bots' Revealed As Builders From India​

Bloomberg notes that these allegations initiated a cascade of investor apprehension, internal changes, and an eventual erosion of confidence. Adding to the troubles, Linas Beliūnas, Director of the financial company Zero Hash, recently exposed that Builder.ai lacked true AI, instead utilising a group of Indian developers who were merely pretending to be bots writing code.

'It turns out the company had no AI and instead was just a group of Indian developers pretending to write code as AI,' he wrote in a LinkedIn post. Beliūnas also highlights that Duggal reportedly presented false revenue figures to investors. Remarkably, the company managed to sustain this deception for eight years.

Investor Dreams Shattered By Reality​

The critical moment arrived when Viola Credit, which had provided the company with a $50 million loan in 2023, took control of $37 million (£27.33 million) from its accounts. This action rendered Builder.ai incapable of fulfilling payroll commitments or maintaining essential operations.

Manpreet Ratia informed Bloomberg that the remaining funds, held in Indian accounts, are inaccessible due to regulatory restrictions.

The Broader Impact Of Builder.ai's Collapse​

The insolvency proceedings at Builder.ai mirror a rising trend of instability within AI startups. Phil Brunkard, an executive counsellor at Info-Tech Research Group, shared with Computer World that many AI companies expanded rapidly, fueled by hype, frequently without robust financial oversight or genuinely unique products.

'The Qatar Investment Authority (QIA) is one of the biggest losers in this saga. They led a $250 million (£184.68 million) funding round two years ago,' Beliūnas adds.

Competition regulators are reportedly examining Builder.ai's marketing practices, with potential implications for how AI companies present their capabilities to investors and customers.

The scandal serves as a stark reminder that whilst artificial intelligence continues advancing rapidly, human expertise remains irreplaceable in many complex technical domains—a lesson that Builder.ai learned through public humiliation rather than honest business practices.

As the dust settles, the tech industry faces uncomfortable questions about transparency, accountability, and the ethical boundaries of AI marketing in an increasingly sceptical marketplace.

Source: https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/builderai...osed-actually-indians-pretending-bots-1734784
 
To be fair though, to become a scammer you need to speak fluent english to convince customers sitting in United States as genuine. Also, you need to be educated enough to be pretty good with computers and codes. These reasons explain why most of the scammers are from India and not Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Imagine a Bangladeshi trying to scam pretending US citizens trying to be Mr. Smith. He will be like uri Baba....give us your poisa saar..

:kp:dw
 
sweep_shot said:
Hahahahahahaha! :yk

=========================

Builder.ai Collapses: $1.5bn 'AI' Startup Exposed as 'Actually Indians' Pretending to Be Bots​

This collapse signals wider AI startup turbulence due to hype over substance, with QIA losing $250M​


The tech world is reeling from revelations that Builder.ai, once hailed as a $1.5 billion (£1.11 billion), 'AI' powerhouse, now faces scrutiny as its highly promoted artificial intelligence facade crumbles, revealing a human-powered operation behind the cutting-edge AI automation.

Builder.ai, the British no-code AI startup that once garnered acclaim for its strategic partnership with Microsoft and secured a $250 million (£184.64 million) investment led by the Qatar Investment Authority, declared Tuesday that it is initiating bankruptcy protection.

As reported by Bloomberg, the company's dramatic decline occurred after a key lender, Viola Credit, withdrew $37 million (£27.33 million) from its accounts, leaving a mere $5 million (£3.69 million) in restricted funds and effectively paralysing operations in five nations.

Earlier this year, CEO Manpreet Ratia took over from founder Sachin Dev Duggal in a boardroom shake-up designed to restore investor confidence. Ratia has since stated that most of the company's workforce has been laid off. As Bloomberg reports, Builder.ai will now commence bankruptcy filings in its operational territories, including the UK, US, UAE, Singapore, and India.

Builder.ai's $450 Million Funding: Big Names, Big Promises​

Launched in 2016, Builder.ai presented itself as a groundbreaking platform, allowing businesses to create customised applications with minimal coding, leveraging artificial intelligence. As reported by Bloomberg, the company accumulated over $450 million (£332.36 million) in total funding, drawing in prominent investors such as Microsoft, the World Bank's IFC, Jeffrey Katzenberg's WndrCo, Lakestar, and SoftBank's DeepCore incubator.

Less than two months ago, Builder.ai admitted to revising down core sales numbers and engaging auditors to inspect its financials for the past two years. This came amidst concerns from former employees who suggested sales performance had been inflated during prior investor briefings.

'Bots' Revealed As Builders From India​

Bloomberg notes that these allegations initiated a cascade of investor apprehension, internal changes, and an eventual erosion of confidence. Adding to the troubles, Linas Beliūnas, Director of the financial company Zero Hash, recently exposed that Builder.ai lacked true AI, instead utilising a group of Indian developers who were merely pretending to be bots writing code.

'It turns out the company had no AI and instead was just a group of Indian developers pretending to write code as AI,' he wrote in a LinkedIn post. Beliūnas also highlights that Duggal reportedly presented false revenue figures to investors. Remarkably, the company managed to sustain this deception for eight years.

Investor Dreams Shattered By Reality​

The critical moment arrived when Viola Credit, which had provided the company with a $50 million loan in 2023, took control of $37 million (£27.33 million) from its accounts. This action rendered Builder.ai incapable of fulfilling payroll commitments or maintaining essential operations.

Manpreet Ratia informed Bloomberg that the remaining funds, held in Indian accounts, are inaccessible due to regulatory restrictions.

The Broader Impact Of Builder.ai's Collapse​

The insolvency proceedings at Builder.ai mirror a rising trend of instability within AI startups. Phil Brunkard, an executive counsellor at Info-Tech Research Group, shared with Computer World that many AI companies expanded rapidly, fueled by hype, frequently without robust financial oversight or genuinely unique products.

'The Qatar Investment Authority (QIA) is one of the biggest losers in this saga. They led a $250 million (£184.68 million) funding round two years ago,' Beliūnas adds.

Competition regulators are reportedly examining Builder.ai's marketing practices, with potential implications for how AI companies present their capabilities to investors and customers.

The scandal serves as a stark reminder that whilst artificial intelligence continues advancing rapidly, human expertise remains irreplaceable in many complex technical domains—a lesson that Builder.ai learned through public humiliation rather than honest business practices.

As the dust settles, the tech industry faces uncomfortable questions about transparency, accountability, and the ethical boundaries of AI marketing in an increasingly sceptical marketplace.

Source: https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/builderai...osed-actually-indians-pretending-bots-1734784
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@Cpt. Rishwat @Technics 1210 @DeadlyVenom @HalBass9 @aboveandbeyond

Check this out.

Indians pretending to be AI bots. :yk
 
Rajdeep said:
To be fair though, to become a scammer you need to speak fluent english to convince customers sitting in United States as genuine. Also, you need to be educated enough to be pretty good with computers and codes. These reasons explain why most of the scammers are from India and not Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Imagine a Bangladeshi trying to scam pretending US citizens trying to be Mr. Smith. He will be like uri Baba....give us your poisa saar..

:kp:dw
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India has tons of scamsters. No question. How bad is Bangladesh that they risk their lives and jump over the fence to come and work as daily laborers for the same scamsters?

@sweep_shot, can you tell your fellow country men from the great nation of Bangladesh to get the hell out of India?
 
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Indian hackers are the best in the world no antivirus can stop them, they even hacked the pentagon.
 
Rajdeep said:
To be fair though, to become a scammer you need to speak fluent english to convince customers sitting in United States as genuine. Also, you need to be educated enough to be pretty good with computers and codes. These reasons explain why most of the scammers are from India and not Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Imagine a Bangladeshi trying to scam pretending US citizens trying to be Mr. Smith. He will be like uri Baba....give us your poisa saar..

:kp:dw
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Indians are natural scammers, Must be the superior Aryan Dna of these great Warriors.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Usual suspects defending even Indian scammers. :facepalm :inti
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Sad to see honestly. Justifying scammers taking advantage of elderly people using classic whataboutism of neighbors shortcomings which got nothing to do with scamming. As if there aren’t other threads to address those issues
 
sweep_shot said:
@Cpt. Rishwat @Technics 1210 @DeadlyVenom @HalBass9 @aboveandbeyond

Check this out.

Indians pretending to be AI bots. :yk
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Indians like @Rajdeep were so desperate to join in the white campaign against Pakistani grooming gangs, I think they overestimated their own worth as cheerleaders for the Anglo fury. Actually, the backlash against Indians is already rumbling in the shadows, far sooner than I thought. Brits might be focusing on Muslamic threat currently, but they have never trusted Indians despite the marriage of convenience with the likes of Tommy Robinson or Britain First. Their time under the spotlight is not far away.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Indians like @Rajdeep were so desperate to join in the white campaign against Pakistani grooming gangs, I think they overestimated their own worth as cheerleaders for the Anglo fury. Actually, the backlash against Indians is already rumbling in the shadows, far sooner than I thought. Brits might be focusing on Muslamic threat currently, but they have never trusted Indians despite the marriage of convenience with the likes of Tommy Robinson or Britain First. Their time under the spotlight is not far away.
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If Hindus ever behave like Musalmic community, likes of Tommy Robinson will have all the right to go after them. However, that will never happen as Hindus are different and considers most peaceful minority anywhere in the world. Here is some newsflash to you, if right wing in Britain goes after Indian scammers, we all will applaued them unlike you who tried every trick on book to distract the Pakistani grooming gangs as Asians. What a lie that one...:yk
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Indians like @Rajdeep were so desperate to join in the white campaign against Pakistani grooming gangs, I think they overestimated their own worth as cheerleaders for the Anglo fury.
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Outsized represrentation of britpaks in grooming gangs was noteworthy. Identifying patterns are useful to eradicate a menace.
 
Rajdeep said:
If Hindus ever behave like Musalmic community, likes of Tommy Robinson will have all the right to go after them. However, that will never happen as Hindus are different and considers most peaceful minority anywhere in the world. Here is some newsflash to you, if right wing in Britain goes after Indian scammers, we all will applaued them unlike you who tried every trick on book to distract the Pakistani grooming gangs as Asians. What a lie that one...:yk
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LMAO, looks like this guy has never lived in North India, despite claiming to be a true Bihari Babu. Peaceful, haha. :yk :inti
 
This and unhygienic practices are the image of India online, a lot of this translates to real life hate. Sad.

These BJP bots on here are completely unaware of this and throw stones from glass houses. Clueless.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
LMAO, looks like this guy has never lived in North India, despite claiming to be a true Bihari Babu. Peaceful, haha. :yk :inti
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Read what I wrote properly first before reacting :facepalm:

Hindus are considered a peaceful minority. Are Hindus in North India minority?

Everywhere in west, Hindus are considered peaceful and law abiding citizents. Most right wing parties and likes of Robinson only clashes with one specific community. Step out of your house and from rear end of Pakistan to see the truth.

Oh and I forgot to add - haha :yk :inti
 
Rajdeep said:
Read what I wrote properly first before reacting :facepalm:

Hindus are considered a peaceful minority. Are Hindus in North India minority?

Everywhere in west, Hindus are considered peaceful and law abiding citizents. Most right wing parties and likes of Robinson only clashes with one specific community. Step out of your house and from rear end of Pakistan to see the truth.

Oh and I forgot to add - haha :yk :inti
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Oh, so you are saying that wherever Hindus are in the minority, they behave peacefully, but the moment they are in the majority, they lose all civic sense and act like there is no law and order in India? If that's your point, then I actually agree with you. Haha. :yk :inti
 
Rajdeep said:
If Hindus ever behave like Musalmic community, likes of Tommy Robinson will have all the right to go after them. However, that will never happen as Hindus are different and considers most peaceful minority anywhere in the world. Here is some newsflash to you, if right wing in Britain goes after Indian scammers, we all will applaued them unlike you who tried every trick on book to distract the Pakistani grooming gangs as Asians. What a lie that one...:yk
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If you really believe that, you are deluding nobody except yourself. No matter how much evidence has been presented about planes brought down, you are still reading the Modia media script faithfully so I'll take with a pinch of salt thanks.
 
RexRex said:
Outsized represrentation of britpaks in grooming gangs was noteworthy. Identifying patterns are useful to eradicate a menace.
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Not disagreeing with you, but that's not really addressing what I said...which was Indian motivation for cheerleading is not out of concern for the girls getting groomed. In fact there is evidence that Indians themselves have been part of the gangs in some cases.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Oh, so you are saying that wherever Hindus are in the minority, they behave peacefully, but the moment they are in the majority, they lose all civic sense and act like there is no law and order in India? If that's your point, then I actually agree with you. Haha. :yk :inti
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He’s got a real talent for shooting himself in the foot while trying to sound clever, the funniest part is, he doesn’t even realize he’s limping.
 
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