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I feel this should be our line-up going into the game vs Pakistan.

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Yuvraj
Jadhav
MSD
Pandya
Jadeja
Bhuvi
Shami
Bumrah

I think 4 seamers and 1 spinner will be a good option vs a team like Pakistan. Also Ashwin doesn't look in great form so I don't think he would make much of an impact.
We also need Pandya as our lower order lacks power hitters and we cannot rely on Dhoni these days.
[MENTION=113824]Nikhil_cric[/MENTION] , [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION]
 
I feel this should be our line-up going into the game vs Pakistan.

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Yuvraj
Jadhav
MSD
Pandya
Jadeja
Bhuvi
Shami
Bumrah

I think 4 seamers and 1 spinner will be a good option vs a team like Pakistan. Also Ashwin doesn't look in great form so I don't think he would make much of an impact.
We also need Pandya as our lower order lacks power hitters and we cannot rely on Dhoni these days.
[MENTION=113824]Nikhil_cric[/MENTION] , [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION]

That would be ideal,hopefully we don't end up taking Ash instead of Jaddu that day,think Jaddu would be more useful right now.

Can't believe Rahul got injured,if we are put into bat first I would prefer seeing Rahane instead of Dhawan eventhough he will score only 30-40 still that would be more than Dhawan.
 
I feel this should be our line-up going into the game vs Pakistan.

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Yuvraj
Jadhav
MSD
Pandya
Jadeja
Bhuvi
Shami
Bumrah

I think 4 seamers and 1 spinner will be a good option vs a team like Pakistan. Also Ashwin doesn't look in great form so I don't think he would make much of an impact.
We also need Pandya as our lower order lacks power hitters and we cannot rely on Dhoni these days.
[MENTION=113824]Nikhil_cric[/MENTION] , [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION]

The problem is Hardik. He is the only one who got tonked in the warmup and I'm tempted to play Umesh instead of him. However, that would mean that the batting is weaker than it already is. Jadeja too cannot score enough at 7. We simply don't have a credible option in terms of a 7th batsman who can double up as 5th bowler. Ashwin is not bowling very well and anyway these wickets are graveyards for offspinners.
 
Alhamdulliah brother, I have been well. I too have been a bit busy these past 6-8 months due to work and life commitments but overall I make effort to follow PP as much as I can since we were going through a very large season starting from the Australian summer.

Bro I was recruited by spirit squad last season :azhar which makes my duties doubly important as I have to make sure that people are shown the light [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] is a gem of recruiter :aswhin would help you transition from the dark side to spirit squad. Follow your heart you must young one :yk

On Topic: I have this weird good feeling about this particular game bro... Hope it's a cracker of a contest :junaid

I'm the gatekeeper of the dark side I can't migrate :))
On topic : I feel this game will be closer than many people think, Indian batting isn't as strong as it looks and Pakistani batting isn't as weak as people suggest.
Only thing which could make it a one-sided contest is if either team bottles it under pressure otherwise should be a good game.
I will still say India are favourites but not by a big margin.
 
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Thing is Pandya needs to be used as a bowler between overs 10-40. He shouldn't open the bowling and definitely shouldn't bowl at the death when we have bowlers such as Bumrah and Bhuvi.
Shami and Kumar open the bowling, Hardik, Jadeja, Bumrah and Shami bowl between 10-40 and between 40-50 only Bumrah and Kumar bowl.
This I feel should be our bowling strategy
Opening bowlers who can get the early breakthroughs.
Jadeja to restrict in the middle and Bumrah and Bhuvi to finish of the innings. [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION], [MENTION=113824]Nikhil_cric[/MENTION]
 
Yadav wont get any wickets vs Pakistan, nor will Shami. Nothing against Shami but frankly, he's not the same bowler he was two years ago. I saw him in the IPL and he barely seams it, let alone swing it. Both of these may get lucky wickets owing to pressure but I don't expect them to do too well.

Bumrah and Kumar however have every possibility to wreak havoc. From the little that I have seen of Bumrah, he's a skiddy lad who bowls good line and length while Kumar is one of the best right-arm swing bowlers in the world. I don't expect Hafeez to last even 1 over vs Kumar upfront.

Jadega has been very successful in English conditions so you can never underrate him or think of him as a light player. The thought of him running through our middle order seems very happen-able.
 
Thing is Pandya needs to be used as a bowler between overs 10-40. He shouldn't open the bowling and definitely shouldn't bowl at the death when we have bowlers such as Bumrah and Bhuvi.
Shami and Kumar open the bowling, Hardik, Jadeja, Bumrah and Shami bowl between 10-40 and between 40-50 only Bumrah and Kumar bowl.
This I feel should be our bowling strategy
Opening bowlers who can get the early breakthroughs.
Jadeja to restrict in the middle and Bumrah and Bhuvi to finish of the innings.

dude - let Pakistan win......
they are a young team and need such confidence boosters. Let them win CT too.
 
Whatever team India field is more than enough for us which consists Azhar, Shehzad, Hafeez and Wahab.
 
In this Indian squad, there are 3 certifies match-winners and 3 x-factor players who can win you an ODI on their day with an individual performance.

India should win vs Pakistan and the CT. If they don't, it will be failure having such a consistent and experienced ODI filled with potential match-winners.
 
Against Pak, Ashwin is a must even though he is out of form.

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Yuvraj
Jadhav
Dhoni
Jadeja
Ashwin
Bk
Shami
Bumrah

Bowling has no weaknesses.

Batting is weak and lacks power hitters. India just have to hpe that some one will score a century and we score 300+.
 
Against Pak, Ashwin is a must even though he is out of form.

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Yuvraj
Jadhav
Dhoni
Jadeja
Ashwin
Bk
Shami
Bumrah

Bowling has no weaknesses.

Batting is weak and lacks power hitters. India just have to hpe that some one will score a century and we score 300+.

Ashwin will be easy pickings for Malik and Sarfraz considering the form he is in.
 
I might be mistaken but isn't the Indian team in the OP almost 90% the same since 2015 WC. I know you shouldn't fix something that isn't broken but the thing is if you do not have a constant inflow of new players and fresh faces then eventually you get a time where all your main players retire at the same time and suddenly you have a very inexperienced side.

On the flip side the Pakistan team is very different from what it was in 2015.
 
I might be mistaken but isn't the Indian team in the OP almost 90% the same since 2015 WC. I know you shouldn't fix something that isn't broken but the thing is if you do not have a constant inflow of new players and fresh faces then eventually you get a time where all your main players retire at the same time and suddenly you have a very inexperienced side.

On the flip side the Pakistan team is very different from what it was in 2015.

Pandaya, Jadhav and Bumrah are new. Every team has it's own cycle where seniors get replaced by fresh faces, and in India's case, that period should be from end of this year to early 2018. Dhawan and Yuvraj are sure to be replaced, while Dhoni's luck will count on an unlikely resurgence.
 
I feel this should be our line-up going into the game vs Pakistan.

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Yuvraj
Jadhav
MSD
Pandya
Jadeja
Bhuvi
Shami
Bumrah

I think 4 seamers and 1 spinner will be a good option vs a team like Pakistan. Also Ashwin doesn't look in great form so I don't think he would make much of an impact.
We also need Pandya as our lower order lacks power hitters and we cannot rely on Dhoni these days.
[MENTION=113824]Nikhil_cric[/MENTION] , [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION]

MSD at 6 is a recipe for disaster. We certainly cannot fit Dhoni at any position. If at 4 Kedar gets wasted at 6. Kedar cannot bat at 5 bcoz Yuvi at 6 becomes disaster.If dhoni bats at 5,6 he will screw at least one match for sure.
 
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I might be mistaken but isn't the Indian team in the OP almost 90% the same since 2015 WC. I know you shouldn't fix something that isn't broken but the thing is if you do not have a constant inflow of new players and fresh faces then eventually you get a time where all your main players retire at the same time and suddenly you have a very inexperienced side.

On the flip side the Pakistan team is very different from what it was in 2015.

Rishabh Pant and Rahul Tripathi will get a go very soon in the Indian team. Pandya and Bumrah weren't there last time also Jadhav is new but he is 32-33 years old. Rohit and Kohli will stay for some time. Ashwin should be dropped from odi's for the time being and either Chahal or kuldeep yadav should be played.
Seamers selection is spot on, the 4 seamers selected are pretty much the best 4 in India.
 
MSD at 6 is a recipe for disaster. We certainly cannot fit Dhoni at any position. If at 4 Kedar gets wasted at 6. Kedar cannot bat at 5 bcoz Yuvi at 6 becomes disaster.If dhoni bats at 5,6 he will screw at least one match for sure.

The thing is Dhoni is going to play that is confirmed, playing him anywhere between 4-6 is going to be a disaster any which way.
The toss up would be between Pandya, Ashwin and the 3rd seamer.
 
The thing is Dhoni is going to play that is confirmed, playing him anywhere between 4-6 is going to be a disaster any which way.
The toss up would be between Pandya, Ashwin and the 3rd seamer.

Not saying he shouldn't play. But just that his along with Yuvraj's and consequently entire batting positions except top 3 would be tricky for us according to different situations.
 
Ashwin is a must against Pakistan who have mostly gotten good starts but the middle order has always struggled against spinners.

Play both Aswin and Jadeja.
 
Ashwin should play he has bowled in the last 2 icc 50 over tournaments. Hardik should be in the side as his power hitting can be of use. Bhuvi starting is dependent on the conditions and if Shami is fit enough.
 
No No No Ashwin shouldn't play. He's exactly the type of bowler that Malik and Sarfaraz would milk for non-stop singles plus an odd boundary on a regular basis in the middle overs. Plus Ashwin is a crap Odi batsman and weakens the batting line-up.

Malik and Sarafaraz need to be hurried through pace and chin music by Shami and Pandya, they don't deserve halwa spinners like Ashwin to milk through .

Jaddu should be the only spinner playing because he's a street smart Cricketer who will manage to keep things tight unlike Ashwin who once loses all his rhythm after getting hit for a few boundaries.
 
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Play ashwin. He will succeed against Pak batsmen.

Pandya will go for over 60 runs and while batting, he will be cleaned up by amir.
 
Pandya 80* off 55 balls against Bangladesh, India needs a power hitter and Pandya is one.
If India is chasing 330-340, I know whom I'll want coming in to bat at no.7 between Pandya and Ashwin.
 
Pandya 80* off 55 balls against Bangladesh, India needs a power hitter and Pandya is one.
If India is chasing 330-340, I know whom I'll want coming in to bat at no.7 between Pandya and Ashwin.

the fact that India is looking beyond top 4 to score winning runs is scary enough, our batting is at an alltime low :(
 
the fact that India is looking beyond top 4 to score winning runs is scary enough, our batting is at an alltime low :(

It doesn't work that way modern cricket demands you to have cricketers who can hit the ball a long way from no. 1-8.
See all the top odi teams have a few very good hitters in their lower order.
 
Check all big matches played between these two countries. Pakistan has always lost due to middle order throwing their wickets against spinners.

The reason why Pakistan won against India in the CT09 was BECAUSE of playing well against spinners in the middle overs. Malik scored 128.
 
The reason why Pakistan won against India in the CT09 was BECAUSE of playing well against spinners in the middle overs. Malik scored 128.

That's an anomaly. Usually, it has always been the other way around. You can check scorecards of all India-Pakistan matches in big tournaments.
 
I'll take Yadav over shami for now, Rest of the team looks perfect.. Wish we had KL in the team that would have made it a top team..
 
I'll take Yadav over shami for now, Rest of the team looks perfect.. Wish we had KL in the team that would have made it a top team..

Not just KL, but Pant and Raina in place of Yuvi and Karthik.

Would have been a pretty explosive team and with Pant and Raina, India would have gotten the fire power down the order to consistently cross 320.
 
Umesh,Shami ahead of Bumrah,unless Shami is unfit. Think Umesh is able to ball slower to take advantage. [MENTION=132605]battler[/MENTION] what do you think?
 
Bhuvi and Bumrah are automatic selections. With today's performance with that bat, so is Pandya. The remaining 2 spots is very tricky. I'd go with Ashwin and Umesh as Shami isn't 100%. Jadeja will get smacked all around on these flat pitches as we saw in the IPL. Ashwin can keep it tight in the middle as we saw in the ODI series in Australia where 320 was par.
 
This XI should be picked for game against Pak
D. karthik
S. Dhawan
V. Kohli
Y. Singh
MS. Dhoni
K. Jadhav
H. Pandya
R. Jadeja
B. Kumar
J. Bumrah
U. Yadav

3 pacers, 1 pace bowling all-rounder, 1 Spinner, Kedar jadhav and yuvi can roll their arm if required.
 
Umesh,Shami ahead of Bumrah,unless Shami is unfit. Think Umesh is able to ball slower to take advantage. [MENTION=132605]battler[/MENTION] what do you think?

I think Bhuvi is the best limited overs bowler we've got right now in India. He can swing it upfront and is also excellent at the death as we have seen in ipl.
So Bhuvi is a lock in for me. Now remaining 2 spots and there are 3 candidates in Bumrah, Umesh and Shami.
I think we should adopt a horses for courses approach here. If it is overcast conditions on match day then I would pick Umesh and Shami ahead of Bumrah and if it's sunny and not much in there for the opening bowlers then I would play Bumrah and one of Umesh and Shami.
Right now if given a choice I would be tempted to play Bhuvi, Umesh and Bumrah and Pandya and Jadeja as the 2 all-rounders.
 
Also Rohit looks horribly out of touch and playing kartik ahead of him would not be a bad choice though I very much doubt that's gonna happen.
 
I think Bhuvi is the best limited overs bowler we've got right now in India. He can swing it upfront and is also excellent at the death as we have seen in ipl.
So Bhuvi is a lock in for me. Now remaining 2 spots and there are 3 candidates in Bumrah, Umesh and Shami.
I think we should adopt a horses for courses approach here. If it is overcast conditions on match day then I would pick Umesh and Shami ahead of Bumrah and if it's sunny and not much in there for the opening bowlers then I would play Bumrah and one of Umesh and Shami.
Right now if given a choice I would be tempted to play Bhuvi, Umesh and Bumrah and Pandya and Jadeja as the 2 all-rounders.

Bhuvi is defn a done deal,and you are right against Pak in shorter ground better to go for Bumrah.In that regard Umesh vs Shami it will be.
 
Shikhar
Rohit
Kohli
Yuvi
MSD
Kedar
Pandya
Bhuvi
Shami
Umesh
Bhumrah
Go with all pace attack yuvi and kedar can bowl spin if required.This combination is exclusively for Pakistanis who are traditionally better players of spin amd also taking in consideration the small size of the ground in birmingham.
 
dhawan
Rohit
Virat
Yuvi/Dk (if yuvi unfit)
Dhoni
kedar
pandya
jaddu
umesh/shami
bhuvi
bumrah
this is best possible line up bccz its rain interrupted match so we must need pandya for his big hiting ability
 
For Pakistan:

No reason to play so many specialist bowlers.

Amir, Hasan Ali, Faheem Ashraf, Imad Wasim will be my bowlers.

Haris Sohail, Shoaib Malik, and Hafeez the part timers.

So here is the XI:

1) Azhar Ali
2) Ahmed Shehzad (I rather have Fakhar personally)
3) Babar Azam
4) Haris Sohail
5) Mohammad Hafeez
6) Shoaib Malik
7) Sarfraz Ahmed
8) Imad Wasim
9) Faheem Ashraf
10) Hasan Ali
11) Mohammad Amir

You bat 9 deep. Have 7 bowlers.
 
Rohit (Cringe)
Dhawan
Kohli
Dhoni
Yuvraj/Karthik
Kedar
Jaddu
Ashwin
BK
Umesh
Bumrah

Shami does not look 100% fit.

Hoping for BK/Umesh/Bumrah to destroy Pak top order. Then Ash and Jaddu can stifle the middle order.
BK and Bumrah can come back and clean up the tail.
 
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