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Indian tourist raging over McDonalds burger

You thought a cheese burger is a bun with cheese and salad in it? :ROFLMAO:

Macdonalds has been around for 60+ years, everybody knows a cheese burger is beef pattie with cheese. Besides ALL MENU item are clearly described. There is even a a photo of the burger inside stores.

Yes I thought exactly that. That is first time when I came to UK as a teenager. You can laugh as much as you want but this is the reality. There are lot of things new and people take time to learn.

My question remains the same - why cant McDonalds call it a beef burger? I mean cheese is there in Veggie and chicken burger as well. So why call beef burger, a cheese burger?

What is this Big Mac nonsense? What is that suppose to mean?

LOL
 
I explained you why comparison with muslims reacting to pork was brought into the thread. However, all you responded was Tommy Robinson.

Slowly you are becoming like @HalBass9 whose posts are all Abba Dabba Jabba without any real meaning in it.

:kp

You never stop being Hindutva version of Tommy Robinson and you get upset at people when they highlight that fact.
 
Anyway I have to go for a meeting now lads. Talk later. Will enjoy a falafel wrap for dinner this evening.

#VeggieMuscle

:nehra
 
Yes I thought exactly that. That is first time when I came to UK as a teenager. You can laugh as much as you want but this is the reality. There are lot of things new and people take time to learn.

My question remains the same - why cant McDonalds call it a beef burger? I mean cheese is there in Veggie and chicken burger as well. So why call beef burger, a cheese burger?

What is this Big Mac nonsense? What is that suppose to mean?

LOL

The term 'burger' originated in Germany from the word 'Hamburger', which is a minced beef pattie. So a burger is meat. Cheeseburger is a burger with cheese, as some do not want cheese.

Big Mac is the name of their largest burger, again beef.

In Birmingham there is a fast foot outlet called Mac Halal. If you order a cheeseburger not only will it be beef but also halal.

The EDL love a Pork bap , be careful they dont force you to eat this or if you want their trust eat two ...🐷
 
@Rajdeep you do know that a burger is not the bun itself, but the patty itself is known as the burger. Hence CHEESE BURGER. A BURGER patty with cheese.

Just cause you are confused, you are bashing the whole american culture for not following your logic behind language.
 
@Rajdeep you do know that a burger is not the bun itself, but the patty itself is known as the burger. Hence CHEESE BURGER. A BURGER patty with cheese.

Just cause you are confused, you are bashing the whole american culture for not following your logic behind language.

I've had a look the Indian menu. They have one which is called 'Big Yummy Burger' described as "our Big Yummy Cheese Burger meal layers a spicy paneer patty and Cheese patty with crisp lettuce and smoky chipotle sauce,"

This is why Indians are confused, the blame should be on their own nations Mcdonalds franchise who are describing the items incorrectly.

On the plus side,,, they have something called a McTikka burger :ROFLMAO:
 
I've had a look the Indian menu. They have one which is called 'Big Yummy Burger' described as "our Big Yummy Cheese Burger meal layers a spicy paneer patty and Cheese patty with crisp lettuce and smoky chipotle sauce,"

This is why Indians are confused, the blame should be on their own nations Mcdonalds franchise who are describing the items incorrectly.

On the plus side,,, they have something called a McTikka burger :ROFLMAO:
Confused? I can:t get over how a picture fails to tell all on a menu in McDonalds UK! You don't even need to know how to read to figure out what's in a burger!
 
Confused? I cant get over how a picture does tell all on a menu in McDonalds UK! You don't even need to know gow to read to figure out what's in a burger!

In India they call it a burger but on the photo its some dhal pattie with onions on top lol. They prob think India is the centre of the world, not understanding Indian Mcdonalds have changed their menu to cater for vegiatrions.

The lesson here for Indians is to realise the world outside doesnt revolve around India.

And yes try looking at the photo of the burger
 
You thought a cheese burger is a bun with cheese and salad in it? :ROFLMAO:

Macdonalds has been around for 60+ years, everybody knows a cheese burger is beef pattie with cheese. Besides ALL MENU item are clearly described. There is even a a photo of the burger inside stores.
It happens to many that are not exposed to American culture, Mcdonalds in India has Paneer burgers thats why the confusion.

In American they don’t even call a burger with chicken patty in it as a burger they say its a Chicken sandwich, unlike India where its a Chicken burger..
 
British Desis as usual being like the ABCDs just being obnoxious only thing you haven’t done is typed “FOB” Yet..
 
It happens to many that are not exposed to American culture, Mcdonalds in India has Paneer burgers thats why the confusion.

In American they don’t even call a burger with chicken patty in it as a burger they say its a Chicken sandwich, unlike India where its a Chicken burger..

The burger should really only be a mince pattie, nothing else should be called a burger. In the UK they also call the chicken a sandwich.

Are there no Mcdonalds in India which serve a proper burger with beef? Down south?
 
The burger should really only be a mince pattie, nothing else should be called a burger. In the UK they also call the chicken a sandwich.

Are there no Mcdonalds in India which serve a proper burger with beef? Down south?
Nope Mcdonalds always keep one menu for a country, the franchise does training of folks based on that kitchen model, it cannot just keep changing because its strict on that, this is also the reason they couldn’t make a Vegan burger success in US because it wasn’t vegan but just plant based.

In south they have their own Beef dishes they don’t care about a burger.
 
I think @emranabbas is making a valid comparison.

First of all, I dont think this women should have reacted the way she did. However, as stated previously, the names in McDonalds is very confusing. There is nothing called as 'Beef Burger'. Its called Cheese burger. The same thing happened to me when I first came to this country and ordered cheese burger thinking its a veggie item. Ofcourse I didnt reacted the same way and threw away the item but every person react differently. I am giving you honest opinion, coming from India, how confusing these names are. How difficult is it for McDonalds to just say Beef Burger? That will clear all confusions.

Also, its not about the video itself. It is about the subsequent posts and shaming that women. Posters asking her to go back to India, go to veggie restaurant, how Indians create scene everywhere etc. So brother emranabbas's comparison of how muslims would react if Pork burger is served to them is absolutely fair one.

I am slowly starting to believe non PTI posters on this forum are more liberal and open minded. Brother @Major is another guy with tremendous integrity. I am not well versed with Pak politics but this is my assessment of mindset between Imran and non Imran supporters.

#Raj

This is what PTI supporters like @Cpt. Rishwat fail to understand, their brain cells seem to be in short supply. And it’s not just him; the rest of his lot are the same. I can guarantee this entire thread was created just to bash Indians, the same Indians who recently gave their party PTI a platform on their own media channels so they could beg for Imran Khan’s release and get their narrative heard worldwide. talk about ungrateful its right in front of you.
 
The burger should really only be a mince pattie, nothing else should be called a burger. In the UK they also call the chicken a sandwich.

Are there no Mcdonalds in India which serve a proper burger with beef? Down south?

FOB...there's a blast from the past. Thanks for the reminder I will keep that one in my locker for future use. 👌
 
I have not read any of the comments below the video, I was commenting on the video itself. If people are telling her to go back to India, it is because thanks to your friend Tommy Robinson, this sort of language has been encouraged. PTI supporters don't start crying, they just give Tommy a little slap and tell him to be on his way, like that fella did in Luton.

You’ve got some serious comprehension issues. People on this forum have been telling her to “stay in her own country,” and the only reason I pointed that out is because I see this same behaviour from Tommy Robinson and his supporters. What’s funny is that the same people telling the Indian lady to go back to her country are the ones who constantly complain about Tommy Robinson and every single one of them is a PTI supporter.
 
It happens to many that are not exposed to American culture, Mcdonalds in India has Paneer burgers thats why the confusion.

In American they don’t even call a burger with chicken patty in it as a burger they say its a Chicken sandwich, unlike India where its a Chicken burger..
Thats not the issue.

The issue is, @Rajdeep as always is bashing others and the american culture and its jargons only cause he didnt understand it or wasnt part of it.

This is infact an indian issue and reflects the op as well. That just cause you see something happening in India, cannot expect the same thing out of India, that you start crying a tantrum.

Notice how Rajdeep instead of admitting his own fault is bashing the Americans for naming its cuisine while himself not knowing what a burger actually means
 
Thats not the issue.

The issue is, @Rajdeep as always is bashing others and the american culture and its jargons only cause he didnt understand it or wasnt part of it.

This is infact an indian issue and reflects the op as well. That just cause you see something happening in India, cannot expect the same thing out of India, that you start crying a tantrum.

Notice how Rajdeep instead of admitting his own fault is bashing the Americans for naming its cuisine while himself not knowing what a burger actually means
Yes..
 
Thats not the issue.

The issue is, @Rajdeep as always is bashing others and the american culture and its jargons only cause he didnt understand it or wasnt part of it.

This is infact an indian issue and reflects the op as well. That just cause you see something happening in India, cannot expect the same thing out of India, that you start crying a tantrum.

Notice how Rajdeep instead of admitting his own fault is bashing the Americans for naming its cuisine while himself not knowing what a burger actually means
Just to clarify - Rajdeep bhai is a British patriot so you are incorrectly referring to it as Indian issue.
 
British Desis as usual being like the ABCDs just being obnoxious only thing you haven’t done is typed “FOB” Yet..

You’ve got some serious comprehension issues. People on this forum have been telling her to “stay in her own country,” and the only reason I pointed that out is because I see this same behaviour from Tommy Robinson and his supporters. What’s funny is that the same people telling the Indian lady to go back to her country are the ones who constantly complain about Tommy Robinson and every single one of them is a PTI supporter.
When did I ever complain about Tommy Robinson? @Rajdeep is the Indian immigrant who has bragged about meeting Tommy and (allegedly) attending Tommy rallies. All I have done is used Tommy-appropriate language for this Indian lady complaining about not getting a veggie burger.
 
When did I ever complain about Tommy Robinson? @Rajdeep is the Indian immigrant who has bragged about meeting Tommy and (allegedly) attending Tommy rallies. All I have done is used Tommy-appropriate language for this Indian lady complaining about not getting a veggie burger.

Another lie. Show me one post where I have bragged about meeting him. In your every post you type the same gibberish how no Indians like Rajdeep ever attend Tommy Robinson rally. Even though the topic is something else, you somehow bring that point. So I got bored and just informed you that not only I have attended his rally but also met him personally outside Cannon street station in 2017. I have never bragged about him and neither I bring him in any of my discussion. It is you who is obsessed with Tommy and irrespective of the topic you bring him in discussions. Remember, this is a open forum and everyone can read your posts. So you cant fool anyone. Now even Pakistanis are calling you out for your lack of comprehension skills. Time for a change? I can help...if you want.

:kp
 
When did I ever complain about Tommy Robinson? @Rajdeep is the Indian immigrant who has bragged about meeting Tommy and (allegedly) attending Tommy rallies. All I have done is used Tommy-appropriate language for this Indian lady complaining about not getting a veggie burger.
Birds of a feather flock together and all that.....
 
Another lie. Show me one post where I have bragged about meeting him. In your every post you type the same gibberish how no Indians like Rajdeep ever attend Tommy Robinson rally. Even though the topic is something else, you somehow bring that point. So I got bored and just informed you that not only I have attended his rally but also met him personally outside Cannon street station in 2017. I have never bragged about him and neither I bring him in any of my discussion. It is you who is obsessed with Tommy and irrespective of the topic you bring him in discussions. Remember, this is a open forum and everyone can read your posts. So you cant fool anyone. Now even Pakistanis are calling you out for your lack of comprehension skills. Time for a change? I can help...if you want.

:kp

First you bring up Tommy Robinson and brag about (allegedly) attending his rally and meeting him personally, now you get annoyed when I remind you of it. What gives bro? I am using Tommy-appropriate language in appropriate thread about Indian immigrant complaining about her veggie burger.

One Pakistani who dances to hindutva tunes does not represent Pakistanis by the way.
 
Its quite a big deal.

I'd be annoyed if I ordered a burger and the fast food staff gave pork by mistake.
if she ordered veg burger and they messed up then its mcdonalds fault but if not then shes so dumb. And a lot of indians eat beef outside of india and by indians i mean hindus
 
if she ordered veg burger and they messed up then its mcdonalds fault but if not then shes so dumb. And a lot of indians eat beef outside of india and by indians i mean hindus
Mistakes can happen bro, lots of people from Gulf Countries and Pakistan come to the UK and eat haram food in McDonalds because they are used to eating it at home.

Whether some Hindus eat beef is irrelevant, many Muslism drink alcohol and do Islamically incorrect stuff too, but it doesn't change the core belief.

Let's have compassion for this poor lady, rather than call her dumb. Yes her reaction was extreme, but she went through extreme trauma by eating her god. You can't expect a human to behave rationally after doing this.
 
if she ordered veg burger and they messed up then its mcdonalds fault but if not then shes so dumb. And a lot of indians eat beef outside of india and by indians i mean hindus

I think everyone would side with the lady if she just complained to the staff and asked for a replacement, it was McDonald staff fault, you are correct. The issue was more about the song and dance she made of it. Mistakes happen all the time in restaurants, staff are only human.
 
First you bring up Tommy Robinson and brag about (allegedly) attending his rally and meeting him personally, now you get annoyed when I remind you of it. What gives bro? I am using Tommy-appropriate language in appropriate thread about Indian immigrant complaining about her veggie burger.

One Pakistani who dances to hindutva tunes does not represent Pakistanis by the way.

Show me na where have I brought him into discussion first and bragged about it? It is you who always bring him into meaningless discussions. As I said, you arent fooling anyone.
 
Mistakes can happen bro, lots of people from Gulf Countries and Pakistan come to the UK and eat haram food in McDonalds because they are used to eating it at home.

Whether some Hindus eat beef is irrelevant, many Muslism drink alcohol and do Islamically incorrect stuff too, but it doesn't change the core belief.

Let's have compassion for this poor lady, rather than call her dumb. Yes her reaction was extreme, but she went through extreme trauma by eating her god. You can't expect a human to behave rationally after doing this.

Now you put it like that I can sympathise more. You raise a good point.
 
Show me na where have I brought him into discussion first and bragged about it? It is you who always bring him into meaningless discussions. As I said, you arent fooling anyone.

I didn't say you brought Tommy up first in THIS thread. But you mentioned him in previous discussions and now you get annoyed when anyone mentions his name even though his whole persona has been built around objecting to immigrants...and you yourself objected to this lady being told to go back to India in comments in the video. Bro, if you lead, where do you expect me to follow? :unsure:
 
I didn't say you brought Tommy up first in THIS thread. But you mentioned him in previous discussions and now you get annoyed when anyone mentions his name even though his whole persona has been built around objecting to immigrants...and you yourself objected to this lady being told to go back to India in comments in the video. Bro, if you lead, where do you expect me to follow? :unsure:
You said the following on post #103 - When did I ever complain about Tommy Robinson? @Rajdeep is the Indian immigrant who has bragged about meeting Tommy and (allegedly) attending Tommy rallies.

All I am asking for is show me the post where have I bragged about it? Why is it so difficult?

I know the exact discussion and context on which I have said that.
 
When did I ever complain about Tommy Robinson? @Rajdeep is the Indian immigrant who has bragged about meeting Tommy and (allegedly) attending Tommy rallies. All I have done is used Tommy-appropriate language for this Indian lady complaining about not getting a veggie burger.

NORMAL REPLY FOR NORMAL PEOPLE

You clearly have comprehension issues.
Where did I mention you?

I’m talking about the posters you’ve jumped in to defend. This has nothing to do with the burger it’s about your buddies who said that if the lady couldn’t get the food required by her diet, she should “go back to her own country.”

All I’m saying is that if someone said that to us in the UK, we wouldn’t like it. So why are we saying it just to mock Indians? And the person who originally said it hasn’t even replied, yet you’re defending it like it like no tomorrow.


Response to those who have a brain cell of a 5 year old like @Cpt. Rishwat

You’re not getting it.
I didn’t talk about you.

I’m talking about the people you’re sticking up for. They said the lady should go back to her country because she couldn’t eat the food.

If someone said that to us in the UK, we’d feel bad. So why are we saying it to Indians?
And the person who said it didn’t even answer back, but you’re still trying to defend them.
 
Another lie. Show me one post where I have bragged about meeting him. In your every post you type the same gibberish how no Indians like Rajdeep ever attend Tommy Robinson rally. Even though the topic is something else, you somehow bring that point. So I got bored and just informed you that not only I have attended his rally but also met him personally outside Cannon street station in 2017. I have never bragged about him and neither I bring him in any of my discussion. It is you who is obsessed with Tommy and irrespective of the topic you bring him in discussions. Remember, this is a open forum and everyone can read your posts. So you cant fool anyone. Now even Pakistanis are calling you out for your lack of comprehension skills. Time for a change? I can help...if you want.

:kp

I think that was in the Maccabi football thread.

Don’t troll them with Tommy troll them with PTI and Imran Khan, that’s what really gets to them.
Just mention it and then sit back and watch the reaction.

They’ll even message other posters to join in. It’s usually about five of them writing long essays. Just relax and watch the show, and when things calm down, make another post it all kicks off again.
 
First you bring up Tommy Robinson and brag about (allegedly) attending his rally and meeting him personally, now you get annoyed when I remind you of it. What gives bro? I am using Tommy-appropriate language in appropriate thread about Indian immigrant complaining about her veggie burger.

One Pakistani who dances to hindutva tunes does not represent Pakistanis by the way.
Let me remind you again: just last week, PTI was begging India to give them a platform so they could appeal for Imran Khan’s release, and the Indians actually did provide that platform through their media so your message could be heard worldwide. And now you repay them by mocking them? You should be grateful, not disrespectful. This is not the way to treat @Rajdeep after what india did for you. Talk about namak harami
 
Kinda funny though. The way a lot of muslims fret about their food being halal is amusing to me.
Every community should be proud of their dietary choices, including the unfortunate lady who sadly endured this.

Its may appear amusing to those who dont follow religious requirements, to each his own..
 
Kinda funny though. The way a lot of muslims fret about their food being halal is amusing to me.
There's a colleague of mine who won't eat non-vegetarian except in Muslim owned restaurants. Sticks to vegetarian everywhere else. Apparently he had a bad experience once where the restaurant owner assured him their meat was halal and he found out later they were lying and it wasn't.

I pulled his leg once about it and regretted it later. Very immature of me. It's not like he was hurting or incoveniencing anyone by it. Just was being very paranoid based on one bad experience..
 
Kinda funny though. The way a lot of muslims fret about their food being halal is amusing to me.
I guess it can be amusing.

It's quite difficult at times though as a Muslim.

For example at work functions looking to see if the that pink thing in the salad is meat, checking the sandwich is definitely tuna and not chicken, looking awkward at a group table when asking if they have vegetarian options not cooked in alcohol, colleague asked why you are chicken yesterday and not in this restaurant today, and you having to explain the process of halal which is weird to someone who is not religious, reminding your kids they can't have certain candies because they contain gelatine. Some people have even memories the e numbers to see which food colourants were halal or not.


Many of us in the UK have grown up with this table anxiety! There are a lot more options now but the side effect is that far right are now jumping on food being stealth halal.

Never ending cycle.

Honestly, that's why I'm surprised at the lack of sympathy towards this poor lady.
 
NORMAL REPLY FOR NORMAL PEOPLE

You clearly have comprehension issues.
Where did I mention you?

I’m talking about the posters you’ve jumped in to defend. This has nothing to do with the burger it’s about your buddies who said that if the lady couldn’t get the food required by her diet, she should “go back to her own country.”

All I’m saying is that if someone said that to us in the UK, we wouldn’t like it. So why are we saying it just to mock Indians? And the person who originally said it hasn’t even replied, yet you’re defending it like it like no tomorrow.


Response to those who have a brain cell of a 5 year old like @Cpt. Rishwat

You’re not getting it.
I didn’t talk about you.

I’m talking about the people you’re sticking up for. They said the lady should go back to her country because she couldn’t eat the food.

If someone said that to us in the UK, we’d feel bad. So why are we saying it to Indians?
And the person who said it didn’t even answer back, but you’re still trying to defend them.

So what? It's part of life when you live as a minority. Stop being such a snowflake. You can't live as an immigrant all your life. In this country we get a slap, we give a slap back, that is British culture. Get out of victim mentality and learn to integrate.
 
I think that was in the Maccabi football thread.

Don’t troll them with Tommy troll them with PTI and Imran Khan, that’s what really gets to them.
Just mention it and then sit back and watch the reaction.

They’ll even message other posters to join in. It’s usually about five of them writing long essays. Just relax and watch the show, and when things calm down, make another post it all kicks off again.

Here you go again, teaming up with Tommy Robinson fanboy and hindutva diehard Rajdeep. You know what's coming next right?

Dance! Dance!....Dance Basanti! 💃🤣
 
Here you go again, teaming up with Tommy Robinson fanboy and hindutva diehard Rajdeep. You know what's coming next right?

Dance! Dance!....Dance Basanti! 💃🤣
Again you are making a joke of yourself and unable to counter his posts with any proper response.

@emranabbas and I had various disagreements and debates. So its not that he is teaming up with me. He is just calling spade a spade, which any reasonable person would and should do.
 
So what? It's part of life when you live as a minority. Stop being such a snowflake. You can't live as an immigrant all your life. In this country we get a slap, we give a slap back, that is British culture. Get out of victim mentality and learn to integrate.
I will keep note of that the next time you moan about how Muslims are treated in UK or when you don't want the Jewish football team to visit UK or when you have an issue with tommy Robinson and his protests. your a minority in UK so live like a minority.
 
I will keep note of that the next time you moan about how Muslims are treated in UK or when you don't want the Jewish football team to visit UK or when you have an issue with tommy Robinson and his protests. your a minority in UK so live like a minority.

Try reading the threads properly before commenting. I said in that thread that I didn't agree with the ban on Maccabi fans. Pull me up any time on these issues in their respective threads instead of making wrong assumptions in unconnected ones otherwise you will make a fool of yourself. Not everyone is obsessed with PTI or Pakistan politics just because you are.
 
Here you go again, teaming up with Tommy Robinson fanboy and hindutva diehard Rajdeep. You know what's coming next right?

Dance! Dance!....Dance Basanti! 💃🤣
Let’s not forget that a moment ago you said you’re a minority in the UK and should behave like one, this is Tommy Robinson’s country he's the majority so he can do what he wants, even choose whether you stay here or shift back to pakistan. So there’s no point bringing him up again now stick to what you said.
 
Mistakes can happen bro, lots of people from Gulf Countries and Pakistan come to the UK and eat haram food in McDonalds because they are used to eating it at home.

Whether some Hindus eat beef is irrelevant, many Muslism drink alcohol and do Islamically incorrect stuff too, but it doesn't change the core belief.

Let's have compassion for this poor lady, rather than call her dumb. Yes her reaction was extreme, but she went through extreme trauma by eating her god. You can't expect a human to behave rationally after doing this.
We are talking about ordering a Cheese Burger and the expectation is no beef patte despite a 100" glaring picture of the Cheese Burger.

If this was a mistake, the lady was intoxicated.
 
Let’s not forget that a moment ago you said you’re a minority in the UK and should behave like one, this is Tommy Robinson’s country he's the majority so he can do what he wants, even choose whether you stay here or shift back to pakistan. So there’s no point bringing him up again now stick to what you said.

Minority doesn't mean immigrant. Being a minority doesn't make me lesser, if anything I am far above braindead yobbos like Tommy Robinson. It is "yes saar!" types like you and Rajdeep who need to suck up to such low grade cretins like Tommy. If you weren't so ashamed of your own race you would suck up to me as well given your deferential status as immigrants.
 
Minority doesn't mean immigrant. Being a minority doesn't make me lesser, if anything I am far above braindead yobbos like Tommy Robinson. It is "yes saar!" types like you and Rajdeep who need to suck up to such low grade cretins like Tommy. If you weren't so ashamed of your own race you would suck up to me as well given your deferential status as immigrants.
its not me who is sucking up, its you who said the following?

"It's part of life when you live as a minority. Stop being such a snowflake"


why do you keep changing goal posts?

so let's go back to the Indian women why should she suck up to the country she is traveling to?

if she should then you should too because your an immigrant too, if you shouldn't then she shouldn't to either.
 
its not me who is sucking up, its you who said the following?

"It's part of life when you live as a minority. Stop being such a snowflake"


why do you keep changing goal posts?

so let's go back to the Indian women why should she suck up to the country she is traveling to?

if she should then you should too because your an immigrant too, if you shouldn't then she shouldn't to either.

Not sure why you bolded that part. Is there some point you are trying to make here? I think English is not your first language so maybe you are missing the nuances.

As for the lady, I didn't say she had to suck up to anyone, you are conflating different points and arriving at jumbled conclusions. I said instead of making a scene, all she had to do was take it back to the counter and ask for it to be replaced. As I already said, it was probably a staff error, no one was trying to purposely be vindictive.
 
Not sure why you bolded that part. Is there some point you are trying to make here? I think English is not your first language so maybe you are missing the nuances.

As for the lady, I didn't say she had to suck up to anyone, you are conflating different points and arriving at jumbled conclusions. I said instead of making a scene, all she had to do was take it back to the counter and ask for it to be replaced. As I already said, it was probably a staff error, no one was trying to purposely be vindictive.

The lady was a tourist I believe. Not a resident of the country.
 
Listening to Indians from the early 80s and 90s, their attitude, manners, and way of conversing were far superior to what you see today. There was a natural elegance to them, they weren’t trying to imitate anyone or be something they weren’t.

Today’s Indians may be wealthier than that generation, but many carry a snobbish attitude, as if the world owes them something and everyone exists to serve them simply because their purse has grown bigger.
 
Listening to Indians from the early 80s and 90s, their attitude, manners, and way of conversing were far superior to what you see today. There was a natural elegance to them, they weren’t trying to imitate anyone or be something they weren’t.

Today’s Indians may be wealthier than that generation, but many carry a snobbish attitude, as if the world owes them something and everyone exists to serve them simply because their purse has grown bigger.
They were mocked too, their accents were stereotyped, the racism against Hindu women was highest in 90s, Dotbusters but I agree modern Indians can be snobbish or have an entitled attitude but the previous generations were mocked for being meek, if you search a bit on this forum itself you will threads where Pakistanis have created that narrative.
 
The lady was a tourist I believe. Not a resident of the country.


That is even worse. Imagine going to a foreign country and haranguing staff for an honest mistake. It looked like the staff were dealing with some patience and apologetic nature, so they should be commended for that.
 
That is even worse. Imagine going to a foreign country and haranguing staff for an honest mistake. It looked like the staff were dealing with some patience and apologetic nature, so they should be commended for that.

Agree.

I think she should've been arrested for disorderly conduct. Also, she should be banned as a tourist. :inti
 
They were mocked too, their accents were stereotyped, the racism against Hindu women was highest in 90s, Dotbusters but I agree modern Indians can be snobbish or have an entitled attitude but the previous generations were mocked for being meek, if you search a bit on this forum itself you will threads where Pakistanis have created that narrative.

People from the subcontinent have long been mocked as being meek, yet many in earlier generations responded to that prejudice with dignity, confidence, and quiet self assurance, qualities that made them stand out. The Indian accent itself was far milder in the 1980s and 1990s, particularly among celebrities and cricketers, at least based on the videos I’ve seen. In contrast, today it often sounds much stronger and more exaggerated.

Most likely, someone from that era would have calmly walked up to the counter, made their complaint, and then carried on with their day.
 
its the indian tourist fault, she should have asked the worker what inside the burger, staff wouldnt be able to lnow if she eats meat or not.....

INDIANS FAULT
 
People from the subcontinent have long been mocked as being meek, yet many in earlier generations responded to that prejudice with dignity, confidence, and quiet self assurance, qualities that made them stand out. The Indian accent itself was far milder in the 1980s and 1990s, particularly among celebrities and cricketers, at least based on the videos I’ve seen. In contrast, today it often sounds much stronger and more exaggerated.

Most likely, someone from that era would have calmly walked up to the counter, made their complaint, and then carried on with their day.

Agree.

Look at how Rahul Dravid conducts himself and how Gambhir conducts himself.

One feels elite and another feels like straight from Delhi slum. :inti
 
I think this episode has confirmed one thing - the cult are indeed narrow-minded, I mean how on Earth is it possible to miss a high-rez picture of a Cheeseburger?! McDs have the burger images plastered above the ordering kiosk, and on the self-ordering kiosk, and in the carparks!

Shortsighted tunnel vision perhaps?

Should have gone to Specsavers?
 
Agree.

I think she should've been arrested for disorderly conduct. Also, she should be banned as a tourist. :inti
I also agree. Migrants and tourists are the whole problem. I believe anyone and their families who's migrated in the last 50 maybe even 75 years need to be deported to their home countries.

Will solve a lot of issues .
 

The ugly Indian tourist​



Though Indians vacationing abroad do not make the world’s worst travellers, they are damaging the country’s image with boorish behaviour and disregard for local rules and customs


All it took was one Instagram reel. Earlier in the month, a viral video from Thailand showed scores of ‘desi travellers’ relaxing, drinking alcohol in the open and sleeping on the Pattaya Beach. The caption read, “Indian vibes on Pattaya Beach! Enjoying the sea, and endless fun in Thailand!” The beach, trashed with snack wrappers and beer cans, is no different from any tourist-dense Indian beach. The world is now the desi traveller’s litter bin. The responses to the video were charged with high voltage disgust and shame. One post read, “As a fellow Indian, I feel extremely ashamed and very sad watching this. This kind of behaviour should be punishable.” Another nomad, currently in Pattaya, wrote, “I’m in Pattaya now, visiting from California, and I can confirm this. I thought I was in New Delhi.” Though there is no proof that the boors were exclusively Indian, the video sparked a heated debate online, with ping-pong attacks and counter-attacks by individuals accusing Indians of uncouth behaviour. One heartfelt post read “Not every brown is an Indian.”

Nonetheless, the Pattaya video was not the first one to high beam the ugly face of desi travellers.

Indian tourists seem to be out with a vengeance to tarnish the country’s image abroad and at home. A Reddit post by an Indian visiting Vietnam revealed he felt a deep sense of “second-hand shame” after witnessing a group of his countrymen being thrown out of a nightclub on Hanoi’s infamous Beer Street. “For every one decent, respectful Indian traveller, there are five who ruin it for everyone else. And guess who gets the heat for it?” he lamented. Another user took it further, “I’ve been solo travelling for almost 15 years now and trust me, our reputation is done. Will take major effort and focus to bring it back even 10 per cent. Most Indians however are arrogant and almost delusional to the point they don’t even realise that their behaviour is shi??y.”

UNCOUTH BRIGADE: Videograbs of a group of Indians drinking alcohol and urinating in the open on Thailand’s Pattaya Beach.

UNCOUTH BRIGADE: Videograbs of a group of Indians drinking alcohol and urinating in the open on Thailand’s Pattaya Beach.
Last week an Air India flight from Chicago chock full of Indians was forced to turn back mid air. Reason; eight of the 12 toilets onboard were clogged with polythene bags, blankets, innerwear, diapers and waste rags, and even clothes, flushed down the toilets. “Potty training Indian travellers perhaps should be part of visa requirements,” says frequent flyer Prabha Menon from Kochi. Air India has urged passengers “to use lavatories only for the purposes that they are meant for.” The blocked toilets were not all Economy, but Business Class too.

The uncouth desi tourist is the new brand ambassador for India abroad. And they aren’t doing Mera Bharat Mahan any favours.

However, facts refute this urban myth; Indians are not the worst tourists in the world. The Chinese have topped the list for years in a row. The Chinese government was forced to hand out pamphlets to point out what kind of behaviour is unacceptable in public while travelling, such as defecating on street corners. When in 2013, 15-year-old Ding Jinhao carved his name into Egypt’s Luxor Temple, Chinese tourists became unwelcome in cities from Paris to Phuket. An Expedia Best Tourist Index once named British tourists as the worst behaved in Europe: messy, bad tippers and habitually peevish, and French, miserly. American tourists are infamous for their ignorance and cultural insensitivity, earning the title ‘Ugly Americans’—a Graham Greene novel take off. The British are a different stereotype—after a few drinks, they have been caught streaking through foreign streets. As per the YouGov statistics (2019), Chinese tourists were vastly unpopular in the countries where they make up a large proportion of foreign visitors. Three-quarters of Singaporeans surveyed say Chinese are the worst tourists. In Thailand, Malaysia and Vietnam, around 40 per cent of locals feel the same.

INDIAN SMALL TOWN MONEY POWER IS DRIVING TRAVEL

In the late ‘90s and beginning of the 21st century, the Indian was a valued guest in the West. Liberalisation opened up a new alternate job universe, new businesses and multi-crore startups creating overnight millionaires. Those were the halcyon days of the Indian economy and the Indian traveller was on a global shopping spree. Indians were a common sight in Paris and Milan designer boutiques, eating in tony restaurants, buying pricey real estate in Mayfair, Dubai and California and flying First or Business Class. Travel re-profiled the penurious Socialist-era bharatiya. The picture is different today, with more Indians from small cities going shopping and partying in South Asian countries. As India’s Tier-2 and Tier-3 towns experience comparatively high economic growth, two distinct generations of travellers are shaping the travel industry. According to a report by capital markets advisory firm EY, “Gen ACE and Gen LUX. Gen ACE, under 40, are adventurous, celebratory, and exploratory, often travelling with peers and influenced by social media. Gen LUX, over 40, seek luxury, uniqueness, and experience, travelling with family and influenced by offers and vacation schedules.”

According to a report jointly prepared by the Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation and Expedia group, The number of Indian holidaymakers could treble by 2025, of which 40 per cent will be international air trips; Gen ACE makes up the majority. This boom in foreign vacations will be driven by people in Tier-2 cities, which has been experiencing an economic boom. A review of visa trends indicate Tier-2 city tourists prefer going abroad—40 per cent of the total— to domestic travel which the Tier-3 cities traveller likes.

On July 22, 2019 business magnate Harsh Goenka tweeted a picture of a notice put up by the manager of the expensive Hotel Arc-en-ciel, in Gstaad, Switzerland to “guests from India”. Among his instructions were, Indians must talk quietly in the corridor and on balconies since there are other guests who like silence, and that items in the breakfast buffet should not be taken away, and if they do, the tourist will have to pay for it. Goenka confessed to feeling “angry, humiliated and wanted to protest” after reading the note, but said,“With India becoming an international power, our tourists are our best global ambassadors …Let’s work on changing our image!”

Harjit Singh, Founder and Chief of Guest Experience at Travel Twist, says, “Social media and travel influencers have contributed to the overtourism of many destinations by promoting the idea of cheap, budget-friendly travel. As a result, many travellers now choose Vietnam or Thailand over traditional hotspots like Goa or Kerala attracted by the online buzz. Unfortunately, this trend often leads to travel without regard for local culture or knowledge, with many travelling purely for the status symbol of going abroad.” India’s economic boom has enriched its smaller cities and towns, encouraging the new middle class to spend on branded clothes, even if they are knockoffs, alcohol, clubbing and eating.

A quick scroll through ‘X’ and Instagram would reveal a flood of reels featuring inappropriate Indian tourist behaviour. But, what makes them so ‘uncouth’? Why do labels like “bargain-seeker”, “miser” and “rowdy” stick to the Indian tourist’s identity? With the country’s outbound tourism market growing at a record pace, in 2023 alone, Indian tourists spent $33.3 billion, prompting many countries to recognise their potential and roll out the red carpet with e-visas and simplified visa processes.

The tourism boom is also fuelled by budget airlines and the influence of Bollywood films, with Southeast Asian destinations.
IDENTIFYING THE BOORISH TRAVELLER

However, unused to and unaware of foreign customs and civility, the desi traveller is travelling abroad not just with a suitcase, but also a bag-pack of the same abhorrent manners they get away with at home. Jaya Sukul, Head psychiatrist and founder, Head Space Healing says this behaviour is a product of our “subcontinental history” and “sociological history of getting away with anything and everything.” Explaining such behaviour, she says that rules that govern society in the subcontinent are remarkably different from that in Europe, America and Southeast Asia. She adds, “Even while growing up, we are conditioned to this particularly Indian thing called Jugad or shortcut. When one thinks of shortcuts or the idea that I can get away with anything. I can get away with a Police challan with a `100 bribe; I can get away with littering because some guy will come and clean it up for me. We behave similarly in our country, but it doesn’t get pointed out.”

For example, jumping the queue is as old an Indian habit as is spitting in public. Incidentally Indian-origin Singaporean Jasvinder Singh Mehar was sentenced by a Singapore court to two months’ jail time for shouting “corona, corona” and spitting on a hotel floor at the Changi Airport way back during the pandemic. Spitting in public invites fines from 1,000 to 5,000 Singapore dollars, which is incomprehensible to millions of Indians, even those who have migrated to higher income countries. A Redditor posted wrote, “I live in Canada and there’s been a huge influx of young Indian immigrants here. Whenever I’m in a line, there’s always Indians cutting right in front of me when the person ahead of me is an inch forward.” Sympathetic users added their own stories. “Call them out, I am Indian too, and I hate this.”

An unforgettably humiliating video was one of the first visuals to highlight the Ugly Indian Overseas Traveller—an uncouth, messy and thieving bunch. Shared widely, it depicted an Indian family caught by the hotel staff in Bali for stealing accessories. Hotel employees stopped them from leaving, to check their baggage, and discovered stolen mirrors, clothes hangers, artifacts, a hairdryer and even soap dispensers. Caught, one of them is seen begging the hotel management to not call the police; she even offered to pay for the stolen items.
Stolen moments: An Indian family caught and stopped from leaving the hotel staff in Bali for stealing accessories.

Stolen moments: An Indian family caught and stopped from leaving the hotel staff in Bali for stealing accessories.


Ethnic typecasting of the Indian traveller is becoming too common on social media. Recently popular podcaster Ravi Handa, who celebrated New Year in Vietnam instead of Goa, posted on X that the behaviour of some North Indian tourists, both in Goa and abroad, is disruptive and inconsiderate. The podcaster shared several personal anecdotes such as a group of Indian passengers travelling by train in Vietnam loudly chanting “Bharat Mata ki Jai” after coming across other Indian travellers. Handa talked about taking on an Indian man who jumped the queue at a cable car station, who retorted, “Hum logon ke pass special pass hai(We have a special pass).” Seriously?

The demography of these travellers reflect how and where India lives. The tourism ministry recorded the number of departures by Indians in 2023 at 28.2 million, surpassing the 2019 pre-pandemic figure of 26.9 million. RBI data showed that Indian travellers notched a new record in overseas spending— $31.7 billion in the 2024 fiscal year—$17 billion on international spending, a 25 per cent increase from the year before. The FICCI report finds that Indian tourists are fine with spending up to $7,000 (Rs 6 lakh) on international trips. Of these, people from Maharashtra, Gujarat, Delhi, and West Bengal top the number of outbound travellers.

Rajesh Mittal (name changed), a successful tour guide of an outbound travel agency talks despairingly about taking group tours to Europe and America. “The first time was bizarre. There were people in the group travelling with food packed at home, like pickles and thepla.” He says that any time a tour bus stops at a destination, the ladies rush out of the bus holding empty plastic drinking water bottles to be filled up in the restaurant loos. They chatter and laugh loudly annoying others around. Sometimes a restaurant manager will yell at them, and it is me who would pacify them—both the restaurant and my customers who feel insulted cannot understand why they were being blamed. I feel ashamed to be Indian at such times.”
Sidhant, a student recalls a group of women passengers taking out hoards of onions, tomatoes, and coriander from their handbags on an aircraft abroad. “They were so shameless that they asked the air hostess for knives and a chopping board so they could make bhel or whatever other concoction they wanted to have instead of plane food. When the crew refused to help, they took out a plastic ruler and started chopping the vegetables. Not only was the stench of it all repugnant, but also, the family was not seated next to each other, which resulted in them shouting out to each other to pass around the ingredients! Finally, even the air hostess freaked out over the impromptu sabzi-mandi (vegetable market) and asked them to stop. But it was such a facepalm moment that I almost died laughing.” Content writer Dhvani remembers visiting Switzerland and the first Indian she met in many weeks was peeing by the road side to Mount Titlis.
The ‘messy’ Indian lands in foreign lands with little or no respect for local food, customs and cultural norms. Littering every place like at home, expecting freebies, demanding Indian food tailored to their taste and treating service staff like personal attendants. Rajat Mirta, a psychology professor says, “They have a sense of entitlement and the belief that money can buy them immunity from the need to behave with decency.” They have a lack of awareness and refuse to adapt. These traits make the Indian international traveller stand out, not in a good way,” he adds. Hence uncouth behaviour gets associated with them, adding to the growing list of stereotypes attached to the Indian identity.

Reha Adani, a 23-year-old Instagram travel content creator who frequently travels abroad, says, “Our less-than-flattering behaviour overseas not only causes embarrassment but also leads to broader consequences.” She notes that in many countries, hospitality staff, locals, and vendors are often reluctant to engage with Indian tourists. Vanashree Nair, who travelled to London in 2023 for a fortnight-long work trip found that typical behaviour patterns of Indian tourists abroad have serious consequences—cold shoulder at the least, bias and racism at the most. She recalls an incident on a bus when a white woman approached her and asked, “Are you Indian?” before saying, “Leave our country!”

“While we take pride in certain aspects of our culture, it is important to consider how our behaviour can contribute to violence and oppression against our own people.” says Sukul. “It’s not just about who you are as an individual, but also about where (India) you come from,” she adds. As India’s shining moment is cheered about, it certainly does not include the dirty deeds of our unofficial ambassadors abroad.
Dirty Harry:Foreign tourist being harassed by an Indian on the street

Dirty Harry:Foreign tourist being harassed by an Indian on the street
Home Invasion: Libidinous Lechers

In 2005, after a spate of incidents involving harassment of foreign tourists, the government launched the Atithi Devo Bhava campaign. The official mandate by the Tourism ministry read, “The campaign targets the general public, while focusing mainly on the stakeholders of the tourism industry. The campaign provides training and orientation to taxi drivers, guides, immigration officers, police and other personnel who interact directly with the tourist.” The targets however, continue to be foreigners. On March 7, two women, one of them an Israeli tourist, were gangraped while they were out with other travellers stargazing near Hampi—a popular tourist destination in South India. Previously, in March 2024, a Spanish woman was gang raped in Jharkhand’s Dhumka district, when she, along with her husband, was on biking trip from West Bengal to Nepal. According to the National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB) 2022 report, 147 crimes of various nature were recorded against foreigners across the country. Among these, 25 cases registered were of rape, involving foreign tourists and foreign nationals.

Often, crimes such as catcalling, harassing and making sexual innuendos toward foreign women go unreported and unregistered, indicating the number of incidents are likely to be higher than what official records suggest. A quick scroll through X or Instagram reveals a flood of videos featuring Indian men behaving badly with foreign tourists—whether it’s assigning ‘prostitution prices’ to naïve non-Indian tourists or slapping the infamous ‘6000 rupees’ label on any woman who bears a passing resemblance to a Russian. This ‘ugly Indian male’ behaviour is hard to ignore, let alone the relentless hounding of foreign tourists with endless cries of “One selfie, please!” and “Can we be friends?” at tourist sites. Sadly, the so-called ‘India tour experience’ is often sullied by such unsettling conduct.
Last year, Jaipur police arrested a man after a social media video showed him harassing foreign women tourists for Instagram reels. In the video, the accused filmed several unsuspecting women waving at his camera while he made vulgar remarks in Hindi, saying, “She is available for `150, she is for ` 200, you can get her for `500, and this one is for `300.” Not knowing the language, the women continued to wave back innocently. The video sparked widespread outrage on social media, leading to the man’s arrest by Jaipur police. The old trope that Indians think ‘white women are easy’ is alive and well. In January, a Sloviakian woman with the Instagram handle ‘Avocado on the Road,’ was travelling solo from Delhi to Agra when a man invaded her space and tried to talk to her despite her repeated objections. Travellers, especially white women, often face extra attention. They are routinely asked by men for their names, selfies, social media handles, nationality, and marital status and what not.

YouTuber Mithilesh Backpacker had a harrowing experience last month in Rajasthan’s Udaipur, which he was visiting with his Russian wife, Lisa. His 15-minute YouTube recorded a group of men following the couple and their two- year-old son. The men were leering at Lisa, calling out “6,000 rupees?” at the City Palace. “I was with my family, and I was shocked to hear such comments”, Mithilesh recalls his ordeal. “I confronted the boys, even called for security, but no one took me seriously. Instead of involving the police, the fort security brushed the incident aside with a half-hearted apology from the group.” The realisation that such behaviour was normalised in his own country left him humiliated.

Says psychologist Rajat Mitra, “There are a lot of myths in India about white women. One is that they are sexually permissive. Almost all my white female friends were approached by Indian men saying, ‘Ma’am, can I have a photograph with you?’ This is almost universal.” On the other hand Psychiatrist Jaya Sukul suggests such actions are a form of “internalised racism” and “a mindset rooted in Colonial past” that shapes Indian behaviour toward white tourists, especially women. However, all Indians do not fit the mould. “Indians are known to be warm hosts and we take pride in our hospitality. Putting foreigners on a pedestal also fosters inappropriate, unhealthy, and problematic behaviours. At times, our eagerness to be hospitable crosses boundaries, and we fail to recognise when our actions become disrespectful,” adds Sukul.
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Don't Blame Us Alone

The Indian traveller may not be the worst kind of tourist, though an element of racism does make brown skin more susceptible to public shaming. Cathay Pacific banned an American couple, who got physical with flight attendants over reclining seats etiquette. In January, an All Nippon Airways (ANA) plane was diverted after a man bit a female flight attendant. A Chinese man delayed a flight for four hours after he threw coins into the engine for “good luck.” US Customs caught passengers with 100 live snakes down their pants, 300 tarantulas and 90 giant African snails strapped to their bodies.

A young American woman was fined for kissing and mimicking sexual acts with a statue of Bacchus, in Florence, Italy. There is a general anti-tourist movement in Europe. A Japanese town put up a barrier to block the view of Mount Fuji after foreign tourists littered the street and caused traffic jams. Thrill seeking two minutes of fame on social media platforms has led to infamy: the rush of YouTubers, and TikTokers trespassing on the closed-to-tourist 3,922-step Haiku Stairs forced Hawaiian authorities to dismantle the historic monument. Human excrement had piled so much on and around Mount Everest that climbers, by law, must take ‘poop bags’ with them.

In 2024, an anti-mass tourism movement erupted in Europe and taxes were hiked. Barcelona blackballed tourists from renting apartments, Italy has banned Airbnb self-check-in. Even though world tourism is booming with 2024 seeing an estimated 1.4 billion international tourists—an 11 per cent increase over 2023—the romance of travel is being eroded by the ugliness of the tourist. Legendary 14th century traveller Marco Polo, in his blackballed, wrote that he saw a unicorn in Sumatra. 700 years later, the world is being swamped by animals of another kind. The Ugly World Traveller.




You dont see many reports that people have problems with Pakistani tourists - Indians learn from us.


#PakistanWillAlwaysTeachIndians
 
There's a colleague of mine who won't eat non-vegetarian except in Muslim owned restaurants. Sticks to vegetarian everywhere else. Apparently he had a bad experience once where the restaurant owner assured him their meat was halal and he found out later they were lying and it wasn't.

I pulled his leg once about it and regretted it later. Very immature of me. It's not like he was hurting or incoveniencing anyone by it. Just was being very paranoid based on one bad experience..

Sounds familiar. I've had several such encounters, many of which resemble that Mr. Bean episode where he takes great pains to make his custom sandwich. Whereas with hindus, i'v convinced several of them to try out beef and they liked it, although many did not and spat it out.
 
For example at work functions looking to see if the that pink thing in the salad is meat, checking the sandwich is definitely tuna and not chicken, looking awkward at a group table when asking if they have vegetarian options not cooked in alcohol, colleague asked why you are chicken yesterday and not in this restaurant today, and you having to explain the process of halal which is weird to someone who is not religious, reminding your kids they can't have certain candies because they contain gelatine. Some people have even memories the e numbers to see which food colourants were halal or not.

That feels like straitjacket. You're not going to heaven anyway so you shouldn't bother. If there does exist a God, I doubt he is going to penalise you points on your report card for accidentally consuming something.

I recommend you switch to christianity, you can have all the wine you want with an all-you-can eat buffet not to mention the regular bacon bonanzas.
 
Sounds familiar. I've had several such encounters, many of which resemble that Mr. Bean episode where he takes great pains to make his custom sandwich. Whereas with hindus, i'v convinced several of them to try out beef and they liked it, although many did not and spat it out.
Yeah the taboos are hard to get over for some.

I know only one Muslim acquaintance who's willing to eat pork but I know lots of Hindus who enjoy beef. It's unfair to compare because many Hindus don't even think of beef as 'truly' forbidden...just as a suggestion.

Alcohol is a different story. Plenty of Muslims I know are willing to have a drink among friends especially if their wife isn't present.

I would say for most people, you have to break the taboo by your 20s or you're never going to break it.

My wife is a pure vegetarian and teetotaller and has never been able to get herself to experiment although she's not particularly religious.

I, on the other hand, am about 'bhrasht' as you can get. I'm a member of of a secret beef appreciation group (it's illegal in Maharashtra), a pork enthusiasts group, a beer mandali, a wine club and a couple of other groups.
 
This was a clear mistake of the customer. Should have checked what is in the burger.
 
I, on the other hand, am about 'bhrasht' as you can get. I'm a member of of a secret beef appreciation group (it's illegal in Maharashtra), a pork enthusiasts group, a beer mandali, a wine club and a couple of other groups.

Are these actual physical clubs you meet up in Mumbai or online groups ?

I thought buffalo beef was available in Maharashtra. It's a pity that economically important states like Maharashtra can vote parties like Shiv Sena/MNS into power.
 
This was a clear mistake of the customer. Should have checked what is in the burger.

1) Customer came to the store and ordered a burger (without checking anything).
2) Customer got the burger and ate it.
3) Customer became furious after eating and started to lash out like a wild monkey.

Customers was completely at fault here. Why didn't she check what she was eating?

She should've been arrested for making a scene in public. It was not the fault of the store. :inti
 
That feels like straitjacket. You're not going to heaven anyway so you shouldn't bother. If there does exist a God, I doubt he is going to penalise you points on your report card for accidentally consuming something.

I recommend you switch to christianity, you can have all the wine you want with an all-you-can eat buffet not to mention the regular bacon bonanzas.
I can feel a bit straitjacketish in western countries. Less so now. Vegans have really done us a solid and introduced more options to menus that are tasty and halal.

Accidentally eating haram food has no penalty but we are urged to take caution hence why people check and check again.

Thank you for the recommendation of conversion but it seems like quite a trivial reason to convert. Although being quite honest changing religions/teachings over small doctrinal issues is such a Christian thing to do, so your religion suits you well.
 
That feels like straitjacket. You're not going to heaven anyway so you shouldn't bother. If there does exist a God, I doubt he is going to penalise you points on your report card for accidentally consuming something.

I recommend you switch to christianity, you can have all the wine you want with an all-you-can eat buffet not to mention the regular bacon bonanzas.


Imam al-Ghazali taught that the root of many human weaknesses lies in uncontrolled desire. He explained that if a person can discipline two impulses, the appetite of the stomach and the desires of the genitals, then controlling other addictions and compulsive behaviours becomes far easier.

In his view, excess in eating and unchecked sexual desire strengthen the ego (nafs), while restraint weakens it, allowing reason, faith, and self-control to prevail.
 
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Are these actual physical clubs you meet up in Mumbai or online groups ?

I thought buffalo beef was available in Maharashtra. It's a pity that economically important states like Maharashtra can vote parties like Shiv Sena/MNS into power.
I live in Pune not Mumbai. To be fair the Maharashtra BJP/Shiv Sena while right wing are not as rabid as states like Gujarat and UP. We've been lucky to mostly have practical governments in Maharashtra. Pay lip service to ideologies but get on with the business of government. Comes with the Maharashtrian nature I guess - sensible and matter of fact.

These are WhatsApp/Facebook groups though we do meet up at various frequencies. The beer mandali is most active. There's some meetup or the other every fortnight especially with the number of craft breweries that have sprung up and many people homebrewing.

Yes Buffalo meat is theoretically available but poor quality and not at many places given the paranoia around it. We have a couple of chefs in our beef group who source high quality steaks and organise events.
 
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