India's newfound bond with Afghan Talibans' regime - a marriage of convenience or recipe for disaster?

[The Bald Eagle]

Indian government has always been a staunch adversary of Afghan Taliban, they opposed them in Soviet era, opposed them during their first emirate and also kept on clinging with Ashraf Ghani government in a last ditch effort to preserve their vested interests in Afghanistan and keep a check on Pakistan's increasing geopolitical clout.

But now they have found a newfound ally in them, since the exacerbation of rift between Pakistan and the current Afghan regime. So a government which India always considered a theocratic regime. So will this alliance help India to resume it's destabilizing activities in Balochistan and Pakhtoon belt again. Or will this decision come to haunt them in the future by balkanization of India. (As Taliban in the past have made claims regarding liberation of IOK and are linked with gazwa hind theories too)

So will India benefit from this marriage of convenience or is just digging their own grave by funding this regime?

 

[LordJames]

Indian government has always been a staunch adversary of Afghan Taliban, they opposed them in Soviet era, opposed them during their first emirate and also kept on clinging with Ashraf Ghani government in a last ditch effort to preserve their vested interests in Afghanistan and keep a check on Pakistan's increasing geopolitical clout.

But now they have found a newfound ally in them, since the exacerbation of rift between Pakistan and the current Afghan regime. So a government which India always considered a theocratic regime. So will this alliance help India to resume it's destabilizing activities in Balochistan and Pakhtoon belt again. Or will this decision come to haunt them in the future by balkanization of India. (As Taliban in the past have made claims regarding liberation of IOK and are linked with gazwa hind theories too)

So will India benefit from this marriage of convenience or is just digging their own grave by funding this regime?

There are hundreds of thousands of Muslims of Pushtun and Afghan ethnicity who already live in India primarily in Mumbai and Delhi and also in North UP.

These ethnically Pushtun Muslims are already labelled as "traitors" in India so India is using Taliban to antagonize Pakistan and Taliban also know this, they are going along to also antagonize Pakistan. There is already severe backlash in India against this cozeying up to Taliban and putting "Darul-uloom Deoband" on a National scale.

The Scholars of Darul-uloom Deoband are also extremely naive and silly to grandstand at the behest of Indian Government.

1. Darul-uloom Deoband will pay for this in BLOOD
2. Indian Muslims will pay for this in BLOOD

I am certain of it. This is a huge mistake by Darul-uloom Deoband.

 

[Suleiman]

It is funny to see Indians squirm and feel uncomfortable with this “alliance”

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It will be a disaster for the Taliban too. Their credentials of flag bearers of Sharia law has taken a massive blow. All the burkas and long beards will look like a joke if they join hands with the an Indian govt which demonises Muslims in their own country, and seems Islamic nations as enemies, either currently or in the future.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Hindu Taliban and Muslim Taliban seems like a perfect alliance.

They will keep each other busy.

As one side builds statues the other one can blow them up.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Hindu Taliban and Muslim Taliban seems like a perfect alliance.

They will keep each other busy.

As one side builds statues the other one can blow them up.

It is kind of funny though, because I have often described the BJP as hindutva's version of the Taliban. I never expected them to actually join hands in celebration though.

 

[LordJames]

It will be a disaster for the Taliban too. Their credentials of flag bearers of Sharia law has taken a massive blow. All the burkas and long beards will look like a joke if they join hands with the an Indian govt which demonises Muslims in their own country, and seems Islamic nations as enemies, either currently or in the future.

Dear Brother,

I seen many Pakistanis saying this but I disagree with this and I hope you will try to see this from an Islamic point of view even though you may not agree.

From an Islamic point of view, there are only two groups:

1. Muslims
2. Non-Muslims

I understand that from a "Pakistani" Foreign policy perspective it is despicable but in the eyes of Muslims worldwide these pictures are the same...

 

[Devadwal]

When Kabul fell to the Taliban in 2021, the Pakistan Army had famously said “Western border (AfPak) secure, now we can focus full might east (India).”

Karna

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Dear Brother,

I seen many Pakistanis saying this but I disagree with this and I hope you will try to see this from an Islamic point of view even though you may not agree.

From an Islamic point of view, there are only two groups:

1. Muslims
2. Non-Muslims

I understand that from a "Pakistani" Foreign policy perspective it is despicable but in the eyes of Muslims worldwide these pictures are the same...

The difference is, the Taliban were regarded as the strictest adherents to Islam, whereas Pakistan have never really been taken seriously as a religious nation. The state has always been for sale to the highest bidder.

This is why I don't condemn the Taliban for their opportunism, but it is time to shed the religious garb if their main goal now is Afghan nationalism.

 

[LordJames]

The difference is, the Taliban were regarded as the strictest adherents to Islam, whereas Pakistan have never really been taken seriously as a religious nation. The state has always been for sale to the highest bidder.

This is why I don't condemn the Taliban for their opportunism, but it is time to shed the religious garb if their main goal now is Afghan nationalism.

Dear Brother,

You missed my point.

Islam has no issues with relationships or negotiations with "Non-Muslims" and the nature of relationships between "Pakistan-India" and "Afghanistan-India" is different, the later predates Pakistan.

So if you are going to judge it by "Beards" and "Burkas" then don't inject foreign policy considerations into it and judge it from the perspective of "Beards" and "Burkas"

Zero problems with "just" visiting India and trying to have a relationship from an Islamic perspective.

Why is pictures 1 & 2 Halal but picture 3 Haram from the perspective of "Beards" and "Burkas"???

 

[Local.Dada]

The difference is, the Taliban were regarded as the strictest adherents to Islam, whereas Pakistan have never really been taken seriously as a religious nation. The state has always been for sale to the highest bidder.

This is why I don't condemn the Taliban for their opportunism, but it is time to shed the religious garb if their main goal now is Afghan nationalism.

So basically only Pakistan state can be a hypocrite and have full patent rights and you condemn Afghanistan govt looking out for their own benefit . Ok….


It benefits India to weaken Pakistan from the Northern side of the border- duh!!! Why is this like a surprising news. Taliban can absolutely go crazy on that front for us so win-win for India.

Taliban have already said any minority related issues are Indias internal problem. Also Taliban will be the last folk in the world to bring up minority rights one would assume.

India reciprocated the same with whatever happens in Afghanistan stays in Afghanistan when it comes to their rules about women etc . That’s all.

Also if sitting in England you feel Taliban has become soft, I am sure there are more extreme groups in Afghanistan out there that feel the same way.

Taliban has cosied up to 3 big powers already - India, China and Russia as they have threat from other militant groups like IS and other more extreme outfits.

i am loving the squirming lol.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

India is extremly popular among ordinary Afghans, so Taliban is also doing this for their domestic popularity.

 

[Devadwal]

India is extremly popular among ordinary Afghans, so Taliban is also doing this for their domestic popularity.

Because india is doing significant developments projects -India has funded numerous projects, including the construction of the Afghan Parliament, schools, and public infrastructure.

Lots of Humanitarian and reconstruction aid . And these things not changed just because ruler are changed in Afghanistan but it's for Afghan citizens.

 

[CricVet]

Now since it is the marriage of convenience, expedite the eviction of Afghans from Pakistan, and hopefully they will be able to migrate to India to settle there. We have had enough.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Hindu Taliban and Muslim Taliban seems like a perfect alliance.

They will keep each other busy.

As one side builds statues the other one can blow them up.

All of a sudden Taliban are bad for Pakistan.

Your generals were supporting Afg Taliban and your people were dancing in the streets when a semblance of democratic government under Ghani was kicked out and Americans and NATO had to run in the middle of the night. Your Imran Khan even said that Afghan people have done great kicking out Americans by calling it Zehni Ghulami.

Pakistan tried to double cross Americans, but Taliban did a UNO reverse card on Pakistan after they gained power.

It was a dangerous game that Pakistan played and now they are suffering the consequences.

 

[Devadwal]

All of a sudden Taliban are bad for Pakistan.

Your generals were supporting Afg Taliban and your people were dancing in the streets when a semblance of democratic government under Ghani was kicked out and Americans and NATO had to run in the middle of the night. Your Imran Khan even said that Afghan people have done great kicking out Americans by calling it Zehni Ghulami.

Pakistan tried to double cross Americans, but Taliban did a UNO reverse card on Pakistan after they gained power.

It was a dangerous game that Pakistan played and now they are suffering the consequences.

Please bumped the thread( actual long thread) when Taliban takeover in Afghanistan (2021) so I can exposed Pakistan posters hypocrisy.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Because india is doing significant developments projects -India has funded numerous projects, including the construction of the Afghan Parliament, schools, and public infrastructure.

Lots of Humanitarian and reconstruction aid . And these things not changed just because ruler are changed in Afghanistan but it's for Afghan citizens.

India did development in Afghanistan while Pakistan tried to use Afg as a pwan to gain Mujahids who could potentially liberate Indian Kashmir.

What Pakistan forgot was that Afghanistan does not recognize Durand line and considers KPK and other Pashtun dominated areas of Pakistan as part of Akhand Afghanistan.

Basically Pakistan's plan miserably.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

All of a sudden Taliban are bad for Pakistan.

Your generals were supporting Afg Taliban and your people were dancing in the streets when a semblance of democratic government under Ghani was kicked out and Americans and NATO had to run in the middle of the night. Your Imran Khan even said that Afghan people have done great kicking out Americans by calling it Zehni Ghulami.

Pakistan tried to double cross Americans, but Taliban did a UNO reverse card on Pakistan after they gained power.

It was a dangerous game that Pakistan played and now they are suffering the consequences.

Aren't you guys doing the same.

Arguably worse as you have spent a lot of time pontificating about the dangers of Taliban.

Yet after the failure of Operation Sindoor both militarily and politically they are your own ally.

Shame.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Because india is doing significant developments projects -India has funded numerous projects, including the construction of the Afghan Parliament, schools, and public infrastructure.

Lots of Humanitarian and reconstruction aid . And these things not changed just because ruler are changed in Afghanistan but it's for Afghan citizens.

100% true.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Aren't you guys doing the same.

Arguably worse as you have spent a lot of time pontificating about the dangers of Taliban.

Yet after the failure of Operation Sindoor both militarily and politically they are your own ally.

Shame.

India for its credit is dealing and making friends with whoever is in charge of Pakistan. It is not for India to dictate and support democracy in Afg. If they do not want Western style democracy, then it should be their will and wish.

Pakistan has backed Taliban and spent loads of money and intelligence to throw out Ashraf Ghani whom India had great relations with. Your Generals thought that they did a Masterstroke by kicking out Ghani and making fools out of Amreekans. Blame your foolish army generals for their incompetence. Operation Sindoor was to destroy militant camps in Pak. India claimed it achieved it and that's the end of that chapter. Now Pakistan is trying to do the same to Afg with their own SirGKhal strikes. Do you think Afg will forget this escalation easily? IMO, its a mistake by Pakistan. Only time will tell.

 

[Rajdeep]

There are so many threads popping up out of jealousy over India’s growing ties with the Taliban government. Yet no one seems willing to discuss why Pakistan fails to maintain good relations with any of its neighbours — whether on the eastern or western side. Why did their fellow Muslims in East Bengal feel the need to break away? For the majority of Pakistani posters here, self-introspection is sorely lacking; instead, they are always eager to shift the blame onto others.

India’s relationship with the Taliban is one of political opportunism and strategic necessity, just as Pakistan’s closeness with Trump. Just as Pakistan didn’t agree with Trump’s support for Israel, similarly, India does not and never will agree with the Taliban’s hardline religious ideology.

 

[JaDed]

It is kind of funny though, because I have often described the BJP as hindutva's version of the Taliban. I never expected them to actually join hands in celebration though.

Why Hindu Mahasabha actually aligned with Muslim League before Independence, they were perfect match then too.

 

[BouncerGuy]

This un-natural bond will end in tears..

 

[Hikaru]

Taliban can learn a thing or two about love and compassion from this new found Sanatani alliance. They have a lot of catching up to do, but I am hopeful they will see some light being exposed to the ultimate truth, i.e. Sanatan.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

So basically only Pakistan state can be a hypocrite and have full patent rights and you condemn Afghanistan govt looking out for their own benefit . Ok….


It benefits India to weaken Pakistan from the Northern side of the border- duh!!! Why is this like a surprising news. Taliban can absolutely go crazy on that front for us so win-win for India.

Taliban have already said any minority related issues are Indias internal problem. Also Taliban will be the last folk in the world to bring up minority rights one would assume.

India reciprocated the same with whatever happens in Afghanistan stays in Afghanistan when it comes to their rules about women etc . That’s all.

Also if sitting in England you feel Taliban has become soft, I am sure there are more extreme groups in Afghanistan out there that feel the same way.

Taliban has cosied up to 3 big powers already - India, China and Russia as they have threat from other militant groups like IS and other more extreme outfits.

i am loving the squirming lol.

It seems you have reading comprehension, but if you read my post again, I said already that if Taliban wants to attack Muslim countries, then they are quite within their rights to do so, but don't need to do it under the garb if Islam. Declare as a secular state which is based on Afghan nationalism and do what you like.

As for Pakistan being a hypocrite nation, when did we ever promote that as a laudable value? It is why it is not even respected among it's own people. Of course as a hindutva you love this, because your ideology is based on hatred of Islam - including the Afghans - for attention of @thelandofthebravepeople (who will pretend he hasn't seen this).

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Now since it is the marriage of convenience, expedite the eviction of Afghans from Pakistan, and hopefully they will be able to migrate to India to settle there. We have had enough.

I suggested this many times previously, not one Indian has come on here to say come on over Afghans, we will welcome you and your prayer mats.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Dear Brother,

You missed my point.

Islam has no issues with relationships or negotiations with "Non-Muslims" and the nature of relationships between "Pakistan-India" and "Afghanistan-India" is different, the later predates Pakistan.

So if you are going to judge it by "Beards" and "Burkas" then don't inject foreign policy considerations into it and judge it from the perspective of "Beards" and "Burkas"

Zero problems with "just" visiting India and trying to have a relationship from an Islamic perspective.

Why is pictures 1 & 2 Halal but picture 3 Haram from the perspective of "Beards" and "Burkas"???

I think it was you who missed my point.

There is nothing wrong with conducting relations with any other nation whether that is Pakistan or Afghanistan, no one should have a problem unless those nations are engaged in warfare with your country. The TTP is engaged in warfare with Pakistan, and they are being backed covertly by India.


If you can justify joining hands with a kafir nation to wage war on a Muslim one, then by all means lay out the justification. I would love to hear it. This obviously only applies if you are declaring as an Islamic nation which rules by Sharia. If you are a secular nation which rules under some other ideology then you will of course follow that ideology.

 

[Local.Dada]

It seems you have reading comprehension, but if you read my post again, I said already that if Taliban wants to attack Muslim countries, then they are quite within their rights to do so, but don't need to do it under the garb if Islam. Declare as a secular state which is based on Afghan nationalism and do what you like.

As for Pakistan being a hypocrite nation, when did we ever promote that as a laudable value? It is why it is not even respected among its own people. Of course as a hindutva you love this, because your ideology is based on hatred of Islam - including the Afghans - for attention of @thelandofthebravepeople (who will pretend he hasn't seen this).

Lmao same old keywords- Hindutva, Islam, kafir.

Firstly India has a democratically elected government. Tomorrow if any new government comes in which is Non-BJP they will not suddenly refuse to have a relationship with Taliban/Afgnanistan. There is a framework in India and despite political ideology people tend to work within that.

Similarly India had a great relationship with Ashraf Ghani and the civilian establishment, now with Taliban and in future with any other government.

People to people -Indians and Afghanis, have great relationship and seem to even more bond on the common disdain for extremism and terrorism perpetuated in our respective countries by militants from Pakistan with their establishment support.

So all that rhetoric like Kafir, Hindutva type philosophies is something you can discuss with your religious leader on prayer days. It has no part in this debate.

This is diplomacy, mutual benefit and also catering to people to people sentiment. Taliban knows being close to India helps their popularity among their own people.thats all there is to it.

 

[Ball Blazer]

mutual benefit. India are happy to have Afghanistan to unite against Pakistan; otherwise, they were that nation's most against' their ideologies, discussing their extremism in their shows etc.

 

[Local.Dada]

mutual benefit. India are happy to have Afghanistan to unite against Pakistan; otherwise, they were that nation's most against' their ideologies, discussing their extremism in their shows etc.

Taliban is still an extreme ideology. Did anyone suddenly call it liberal or secular ideology on Indian media just because they are friendly with us now?

Also it’s not just about needling Pakistan. India has done a lot of good work- infrastructure development etc in Afghanistan and even now provide a lot of aid to the common people there. So from a people to people we have great relationship between Indians and Afghanis regardless who is in power. The common disdain for terrorism from Pak is a extra bonus for the bonding.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Lmao same old keywords- Hindutva, Islam, kafir.

Firstly India has a democratically elected government. Tomorrow if any new government comes in which is Non-BJP they will not suddenly refuse to have a relationship with Taliban/Afgnanistan. There is a framework in India and despite political ideology people tend to work within that.

Similarly India had a great relationship with Ashraf Ghani and the civilian establishment, now with Taliban and in future with any other government.

People to people -Indians and Afghanis, have great relationship and seem to even more bond on the common disdain for extremism and terrorism perpetuated in our respective countries by militants from Pakistan with their establishment support.

So all that rhetoric like Kafir, Hindutva type philosophies is something you can discuss with your religious leader on prayer days. It has no part in this debate.

This is diplomacy, mutual benefit and also catering to people to people sentiment. Taliban knows being close to India helps their popularity among their own people.thats all there is to it.

All of that is fine if there are no bombings or kidnappings happening on Pakistani territory by terrorists backed by the Indian govt. It's not that difficult to grasp is it?

 

[LordJames]

This un-natural bond will end in tears..

HinduKush
The mountain barrier separating India and Afghanistan is called Hindu"Kush" and the tallest range visible from Afghanistan is called to this day "Koh-e-Hindu"

The word "Hindu" is still used to this day as a derogatory term in Dari and the nationalist, xenophobic Afghans call "Punjabees" Hindus to deride them and this is also common (unfortunately)

So India can keep up the non-sense and fund the Taliban but whenever the minority rule within "Taliban" collapses, things will realign themselves.

 

[Devadwal]

Pakistani can't digest how the hell india - Afghanistan becomes friendly country.

strategic depth of pakistan has becomes strategic graveyard .

Kya se kya ho gye dekhte dekhte ..........

 

[Devadwal]

First Passenger Train to Run Between Iran and Afghanistan on Wednesday

Iran’s Tasnim News Agency has reported that the first passenger train between Iran and Afghanistan will begin operations on Wednesday, departing from Mashhad toward the Rozanak area of Herat province.

Amir Tawakoli Roudi, a member of Iran’s Industries Commission, told Tasnim that the Khaf–Herat railway line has been completed, connecting the city of Herat to Iran’s rail network through Khaf.

According to him, the train has a capacity of 400 passengers and is scheduled to depart for Afghanistan at 11 a.m. on Wednesday.

The Iranian official added that the opening of this route will help enhance economic and cultural cooperation between the two neighboring countries.

Great for india - Afghanistan - Iran .

India can use Iran routes for trade with Afghanistan

 

[Devadwal]

The Time to Revive All Relations with India Has Finally Arrived” says Afghanistan’s Interim Foreign Minister in India​

Beautiful statement that can give lot's of sleepless night to certain people's

 

[KingKhanWC]

There is no military alliance, its a trade pact as nations should do with anyone. Even Pak and India continue trade to this day.

This will end in tears for India.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Pakistani can't digest how the hell india - Afghanistan becomes friendly country.

strategic depth of pakistan has becomes strategic graveyard .

Kya se kya ho gye dekhte dekhte ..........

This is a misconception. Pakistan only needs strategic depth if there is a war going on. As long as Indian/Afghan relations don't result in terror attacks on Pakistan, then Pakistan should have no concerns with Indian/Afghan friendship. Like I said already, I look forward to the day Indians are invited to open a new Hindu temple in Kandahar for visiting dignitaries and exchange students.

 

[Devadwal]

This is a misconception. Pakistan only needs strategic depth if there is a war going on. As long as Indian/Afghan relations don't result in terror attacks on Pakistan, then Pakistan should have no concerns with Indian/Afghan friendship. Like I said already, I look forward to the day Indians are invited to open a new Hindu temple in Kandahar for visiting dignitaries and exchange students.

It was Pakistan who harbouring terrorist wheather to attack in india or Afghanistan .

Pakistan Army had famously said “Western border (AfPak) secure, now we can focus full might east (India).”

India is doing great work for Afghan citizens by building infrastructure, medical and Humanitarian aid.

 

[Champ_Pal]

This un-natural bond will end in tears..

As unnatural as the bond between Muslim Pure land of Pakistan to an Atheist China.

 

[pillionrider]

I suggested this many times previously, not one Indian has come on here to say come on over Afghans, we will welcome you and your prayer mats.

Just like no Arab country welcomed Muslim refugees.

 

[pillionrider]

The bhakts took a while to regroup but have found strategy and geopolitics as cushions from the blows they actually feel

 

[Devadwal]

This is poor take. No party is important when it's comes to national interest .

Bhaad m jaye BJP, congress but national interest comes first .

The bhakts took a while to regroup but have found strategy and geopolitics as cushions from the blows they actually feel