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india has for the first time in its history ,pool of about 10 phhast bowlers ( aaron shami ishant yadav b kumar pandya bumrah - with each state team having at least a 140 k 20 something in the wings like rajput chaudhary porel ,other yadav in kerala )
also good keeperbatsmen - dhoni , saha, ojha , karthick , patel

their slip catching is perhaps worse than club grade . with dravid laxman tenli sehwag too , nothing was missed ( rarely saw drops)

ashwin jadeja rely on lbw bowled
but these guys - kohli sharma rahane shawan rahul are like waiting ducks in slip cordon.

whats the issue - too much distracted on field? lack of practise ? i still dont get it .

india is gonna loose epic in firangi conditions as the phastt bowlers will be going bald pulling their hair in despair
 
Waiting for one of them to drop ABD on 7 and again on 45 after which he goes on to make 216*. So much for phittness when you can't catch a ball in the cordon.
 
Haven't watched India of late. Who's in the slips? I know Rahane has bucket hands. Is he still there? Who are the others?
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Haven't watched India of late. Who's in the slips? I know Rahane has bucket hands. Is he still there? Who are the others?
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Dhawan has butter fingers. Seen him drop a ton of them.

Kohli is a poor slip fielder. Puts down dollies there.

Pujara is alright and decent at best.

Murali Vijay is a terrible slip fielder.

Rahane is the only reliable one. Rest are all 50-50 catchers.
 
troodon said:
Dhawan has butter fingers. Seen him drop a ton of them.

Kohli is a poor slip fielder. Puts down dollies there.

Pujara is alright and decent at best.

Murali Vijay is a terrible slip fielder.

Rahane is the only reliable one. Rest are all 50-50 catchers.
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Yeah, I've seen Dhawan, Kohli, and Murali. They're too fidgety to be slip fielders. Have they tried Rahul? He's a technician and is quite calm.
 
1st slip you want a safe catcher ,2nd slip you want someone who is agile and also a good catcher. Surprised to see India drop so many catches in the slips.

If it happens in South Africa or England it could prove costly. Need to sort it out asap.
 
Kohli is the biggest culprit in the slips. Even at school level i have seen catching to be good. Quiet unusual Kohli catches like a grade schooler at this level.
 
the slip catching will make bowlers earn 15 wickets .. kohli and dhawan are worst . hope they get sharma and rahul trained .

rahane is going to warm the benches . at current form he is a liability . hope they drop him or keep him at 12 th man for slip fielding ( all players will need to do pretend vomit - high altitude , too much grass , too pure air etc and get 12th man in )

on a serious note this team is the best homeside ever mainly due to the superb phast support - they all tend to bowl lbw or wicket keeper catches . v pacy and fit with v good backups . time and again the phastt men have bailed them out . once pitches are bit helpful then ashwin and jadeja take over .

but this is inspite of such poor catching .
 
troodon said:
Never understood why Rohit does not stand in the slips. He is an excellent catcher and has pretty good reflexes.
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Kohli wants to prove that he can be as good a slip fielder as his fab 4 rivals in Smith and Root.

Bit of insecurity there tbh.
 
Sin Nombre said:
Kohli wants to prove that he can be as good a slip fielder as his fab 4 rivals in Smith and Root.

Bit of insecurity there tbh.
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Kohli is just beyind ridiculous in the slips, though I'm not sure why people are picking on Vijay, surely he;s not as bad as Dhawan or the captain himself? Rahul, being a part time keeper, is excellent so is Rahane & to a much lesser extent Pujara. If anywhere Kohli should stand in the gully because you need to make quick movements & anticipate catches, in the slips there is minimum movement needed.
 
troodon said:
Never understood why Rohit does not stand in the slips. He is an excellent catcher and has pretty good reflexes.
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and he just dropped one :facepalm:

Don't get what the fielding coaches are doing. Its not the most difficult issue to fix, unlike bowling or batting technique. At least the coaching staff should come up with a plan who should field at slips and who shouldn't.
 
Why does Rahane not stand in the slips always? I see him in mid on/midwicket at times or in gully. He is by far the best catcher in the team. Poor thinking from Kohli and Shastri.
 
Wow 6 drops & counting, some of you thought Pak were bad at catching, India takes the bakery (not just the cake) so far as I'm concerned over the last 2~3 years!
 
All fitness freaks who can't hold on to catches.

Mathews has been dropped 5 times this test & Dilruwan 1 time.

Garbage catching side.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Shastri favourite of Kohli-Totally Useless.
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I will not get into this argument, but I strongly feel Kumble was unceremoniously booted out.
He was a fielding and bowling coach rolled into one. Apparently, the team had problems with him and he had problems with the team. It did not work out. But I feel Shastri is completely useless. Even Chetan Sharma or Madan lal could do what he does - cheerlead for India. Again it is personal opinion.
 
ind_win said:
I will not get into this argument, but I strongly feel Kumble was unceremoniously booted out.
He was a fielding and bowling coach rolled into one. Apparently, the team had problems with him and he had problems with the team. It did not work out. But I feel Shastri is completely useless. Even Chetan Sharma or Madan lal could do what he does - cheerlead for India. Again it is personal opinion.
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Shastri's tracer bullet commentary was tolerable compared to this! I think Indian team will go well with foreign coaches like John Wright, Kirsten, etc who brought both professionalism and calmness... They will get will with the players and do the calming train-ups!
 
Jadeja and Rahane should be in the slips, Rahul should be trained to practice slip catching, as he is anyhow not that good in saving runs. Kohli should never be in the slips, he can talk to the bowler & save runs in mid-on/mid-off. I think one of the reasons fielders pool up in the slip quadrant is to have chats with buddies as test matches is full of boring sessions as they think :)) Kohli will be distracted even more if his close friend Rohit is also around! Specialists/professionals need to be there. Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag, Sachin used to do such a great job, alas they were usually not supplied with decent bowling unit of today!
 
Six drops in one test match? Who were the culprits?

Pujara and Rahane should be first and second slip. India can try out Jadeja for third slip seeing he can't be any worse than Kohli. Don't think they'll need a fourth slip.
 
Bilal7 said:
Six drops in one test match? Who were the culprits?

Pujara and Rahane should be first and second slip. India can try out Jadeja for third slip seeing he can't be any worse than Kohli. Don't think they'll need a fourth slip.
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Well Jadeja is as bad as Kohli. It was his drop of Cook that started India's free fall in England from 1-0 to 1-3
 
RamLakhan said:
Shastri's tracer bullet commentary was tolerable compared to this! I think Indian team will go well with foreign coaches like John Wright, Kirsten, etc who brought both professionalism and calmness... They will get will with the players and do the calming train-ups!
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Shastri in any form is useless for me, commentary he hypes and coaching he just praises - (I am saying this after observing his many roles - player, commentator, coach, cheerleader etc )may be Indian team wants a cheerleader since it is not allowed in the current formats Shastri is employed. The guy is shameless, hung with the Indian team for 3-4 years when he wa playing even after people protesting outside his house, what a fall from grace for the B&H 1985 player. Enough said. That is one thing that keeps me cautious - his filmy association and his fall. Hope it is not infectious.
 
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WengerOut said:
Well Jadeja is as bad as Kohli. It was his drop of Cook that started India's free fall in England from 1-0 to 1-3
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Before that, his drop catch of Cook in the second test cost us the only home series lost in the last decade. Oh Jadeja. What have you done!
 
King Kong said:
Before that, his drop catch of Cook in the second test cost us the only home series lost in the last decade. Oh Jadeja. What have you done!
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Jaddu didn't play that test. Only played 4th test in that series.

Pujara dropped Cook in 3rd test Kolkata off Zaheer.
 
This guy Dhawan along with Kohli are terrible at slips. Lost count on how many catches we dropped throughout our home season. Despite these, we have been able to come out victorious due to our bowlers continuously creating chances, but it will cost us dearly once we step out.
 
That drop catch of Mccullum by Kohli still hurts man. What is the fielding coach doing? It's not a recent problem. We dropped like 15-20 catches against England last year.
 
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King Kong said:
That drop catch of Mccullum by Kohli still hurts man. What is the fielding coach doing? It's not a recent problem. We dropped like 15-20 catches against England last year.
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Probably 200+ since Kohli started catching/dropping it in the slips :))

Get him out of there man, absolute panauti :14:
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Right. Everyone is the culprit it seems. Only Rahane doesn't have his hands dirty(yet).
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KL seems to be a good catcher, as part time keeper he should be relatively safe!
 
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Probably 200+ since Kohli started catching/dropping it in the slips :))

Get him out of there man, absolute panauti :14:KL seems to be a good catcher, as part time keeper he should be relatively safe!
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Don't know about Rahul. But the signs aren't good. Seen him drop a few catches at short leg.
 
Kohli is an okay fielder. He is okay only in stopping the ball. His catching is not natural. He has to practice a lot more with his catching until it becomes second nature.
 
No more slip ups, India's Pujara tells butterfinger team mates

India’s Cheteshwar Pujara bemoaned their spilled catches in the third and final test against Sri Lanka on Wednesday but was optimistic they would plug the porous slip cordon for next month’s test series in South Africa.

Sri Lanka’s Angelo Mathews ended his two-year century drought with generous help from the Indians as home captain Virat Kohli spilled the batsman on six and Rohit Sharma on 98, both at second slip.

Mathews was dropped again on 104, this time at mid-off, by substitute fielder Vijay Shankar.

“We haven’t taken many catches (in the slips) but we will definitely get better at it,” Pujara, a reliable slip fielder himself, told reporters on Wednesday.

“Overall, the Indian team has improved as a fielding unit but slip fielding is something we are still looking to improve.”

Sri Lanka opener Dilruwan Perera was also dropped at second slip by Shikhar Dhawan, prompting concerns as India prepare to leave for a tougher assignment in South Africa.

“We are having a chat about it and we will assign a few players throughout the away series,” Pujara said.

“We will prepare a few players who will be standing at the slips. We will discuss (it more) when we reach South Africa but we are already talking about that.”

The 29-year-old said injuries to players like opener-slip fielder Murali Vijay forced the team into reshuffling the slip cordon.

“To be honest, we haven’t fielded well and I would accept that. At the same time... there have been occasions where batsmen (who field in the slips) have got injured and we had to replace them with some other player.”

Pujara was not sure if there was anything wrong with the technique of India’s slip fielders.

”I don’t know technically what is going wrong. I do agree that we haven’t taken enough catches, we are working hard.

“To be honest, we put in a lot of hard work in our fielding ... All players standing in the slips are taking 50 to 100 catches (daily in practice). We are trying to improve and eventually results will come.”

Starting on Jan. 5, India play three tests in South Africa followed by six one-day and three Twenty20 internationals.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/cric...a-tells-butterfinger-team-mates-idUKL3N1O648O
 
If India want to challenge South Africa, they need to improve their slip catching a lot. You cannot drop test players and expect to win games. Indian catching has been really poor and I hope Virat Kohli never stands in slips ever.
 
Despite being comfortably worst slip fielder, kohli is still allowed to be anywhere near that area proves superstar worshiping culture can't die in India.
 
Chrish said:
Despite being comfortably worst slip fielder, kohli is still allowed to be anywhere near that area proves superstar worshiping culture can't die in India.
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Actually Kohli is poor anywhere close in, not only at slips. I still can't forget the drop catch of McCullum in the second test in NZ when Dhoni had placed him in short mid on for a specific reason. It was not even a tough chance. We all know what happened after that. He is a decent outfield catcher, should stay away from close in catching positions.
 
Slip is the most critical fielding area in tests. But his ego is too big and seems like Shastri is just being a tool. That's what happens where player is bigger than a game culture.
 
Extra bounce reason for India's slip problems: Jonty Rhodes

While they've batted poorly to lose the first two Tests of the on-going series against England, India have been pathetic in the field too - they dropped three catches in the slips (Shikhar Dhawan twice, and Ajinkya Rahane once) in the first game at Edgbaston. Rhodes offered a technical explanation for India's fielding woes. In fact, As per statistics, India have dropped more catches then they've caught in the slips since 2014.

The 49-year-old put down India's poor slip catching in England so far to a technical reason. "So, the key difference for me is that when you practice catching a cricket ball during practice...you don't have time to think on a cricket field. So, you start thinking about a 'drop.' The majority of balls in India, because of the low bounce, whether you're fielding in the slips or covers, the catches come between your knees or the ground. So, most of the catches are taken with your fingers pointing down. But we South Africa and Australia, because of the extra bounce, are accustomed used to catching the ball with the reverse cup fingers.

Drawing from his experience of having been the fielding coach of the Mumbai Indians for a long time, Rhodes said that it wasn't easy to change the technique of the Indian fielders overnight. "I worked with the (Indian) players in the IPL. You change somebody in six weeks, after four weeks they start changing. But a year later, you come back and notice that they're still back to their old habits. So, it's very difficult to change as it happens what you instinctively don't want to do."

He also pointed out that it was only now that the India had started producing genuine pace bowlers, which meant that those fielding in the slips were still getting used to the ball coming to them at good speed and height. "You also look at the Indian pace attack. For a long time, it was more about defence, then attack…relying on spin bowling or accurate seam. As a slip fielder, if you're accustomed to Sourav Ganguly bowling with the new ball or first change, and suddenly you've got Mohammad Shami, Bumrah and Ishant Sharma, who're bowling with pace and bounce. Catching the ball isn't easy," he summarised.

The Indians, he felt, need to train hard if they wanted to improve their slip-catching. "My father had drilled it into me that you've to practice like it's a match situation," he recalled.

Fielding too, he felt, was all about adapting to the conditions, which isn't easy. "For us South Africans, it means coming here, catching the ball low and playing on turning wickets. You've to be able to adapt. The problem is that when you're under pressure, then your true self as a cricketer comes out," Rhodes said.

He felt that a big reason India were struggling against England in the Tests was the absence of pacers Jasprit Bumrah and Bhuvneshwar Kumar, who missed the first two Tests due to injuries. "It's amazing, South Africa just hosted India for a Test series, and India came close to winning that series, which was unheard of, because of their pace attack. Unfortunately, two of your main bowlers who did so well in South Africa, haven't been available (got injured in this series)," sympathized Rhodes.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...roblems-jonty-rhodes/articleshow/65426168.cms
 
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