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"India's skill-levels are high, ours are not quite there yet" : Sarfaraz Ahmed

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Yuzvendra Chahal credited the pacers for building pressure on the opposition while Sarfraz Ahmed rued the dropped catches and conceded to there being a mismatch in skill levels between the sides.

India's victory against Pakistan in their second Super Four game in Dubai followed a tone similar to their previous two victories.

While Pakistan bettered the 163 they scored the last time they faced India, in the group stage, they could not capitalise on the position of strength – they were 165/3 at one stage with both Ahmed and Shoaib Malik set at the crease – but stuttered towards the end of the innings.

In both games, India picked up wickets with the new ball and had the opposition's top three back in the pavilion for not many before the first drinks break. If it was Bhuvneshwar Kumar in the first game, Chahal and Kuldeep Yadav did the damage on Sunday, 23 September by dismissing both Pakistani openers.

Chahal, who finished with 2/46 from nine overs, credited the fast bowlers for building enough pressure in the first few overs, thereby helping the spinners to bowl according to their plans.

"The new-ball bowlers usually bowl seven to eight overs before we spinners come into the attack, and the pressure they build on the batsmen with the new ball – they concede not more than 20-25 runs – helps us plan our line of attack as to where to bowl to maintain that pressure," Chahal explained after the match.

"Because if you don't give away boundaries in this format, the batsmen will inevitably be under pressure."

That was indeed the case. India conceded only four boundaries in the first 15 overs and, consequently, opening bat Fakhar Zaman, who had been reined in for an uncharacteristic 31 off 44, tried to sweep Yadav across the line and was dismissed leg before wicket.

Chahal was introduced in the eighth over, inside the first Powerplay, and responded immediately by trapping Imam-ul-Haq in front of the wickets. He said he is now comfortable with bowling with field restrictions given how much he has bowled in the Powerplay in Twenty20 cricket.

"I have bowled quite a lot during the Powerplay in the IPL [Indian Premier League] and T20s, so this isn't anything new for me," he said. "I keep practising for it in the nets and vary my pace and lengths according to the wicket."

However, while the three Indian spinners were effective, returning four wickets between them, their Pakistani counterparts in Mohammad Nawaz and Shadab Khan weren't quite so.

Khan was particularly expensive, giving away 54 runs in eight overs. Chahal attributed it to the pressure Shikhar Dhawan and Rohit Sharma – they added 210 runs for the first wicket and both of them scored centuries – had already created on the opposition by the time spinners came on to bowl.

"Our batsmen put their bowlers under pressure right from the word go," Chahal said.

"At times, when batsmen are not under pressure, it becomes easy to face the bowlers. And on this wicket, you have got to vary your lines and lengths.

"I think they have been doing that, but the situation here was slightly different in that we were 150 without loss, and that's why (Pakistan's) bowlers were also down mentally."

The Pakistani bowlers were not helped by the poor show in the field. Haq dropped Sharma off Shaheen Afridi early in the Indian innings and there were several lapses in the field, much like the way Pakistan had fielded in their last outing, against Afghanistan.

Ahmed rued the missed opportunities and said Pakistan have to field better if they are to challenge India. "If we keep dropping catches, we won't win games," he said after the match.

"We've done hard work at fielding. So I'm not sure what's going wrong. I thought the pitch was difficult to bat on, that it would be hard for a new batsman to start here and for that reason we should have held on to our catches."

Conceding that Pakistan were "20-30 runs short" Ahmed lauded Sharma and Dhawan for their performance and talked about a mismatch in the skill level between the teams.

"They had set batsman to do the job. We're trying to get early wickets, we're talking with the bowlers, and when we don't get them, with batsmen like Rohit and Dhawan, it's hard to come back," he said.

"Their skill-level is high, ours is not quite there, but by the final, we'll get better. It's a do-or-die match for us in the next game (against Bangladesh), we'll do our best."

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Indian openers may have skills but Pakistan always had the X Factor. We need to extract that.
 
They use brain better too
Our mighty glicrist can’t stay in heat of Dubai so chose not to review
 
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Sarfraz Ahmed, Pakistan captain: Match had become quite difficult. If you don't take catches, even 280 won't be enough. Boys are working hard, but are dropping catches at crucial junctures. I thought the pitch looked a bit difficult for batting. Had we taken early wickets, it wouldn't have been such an easy chase. We take a lot of time for recover after losing a couple of early wickets. Credit to Rohit Sharma and Shikhar Dhawan for superb batting. We have to improve our skill levels if we are to make it to the final.
 
He isn't wrong. A quick wicket or two would make batsmen circumspect and fire up the bowlers. The new batsmen might not have found the going as buttery smooth as Shikhar and Rohit made it appear.

These little marginal stuff add up.
 
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Sarfraz Ahmed, Pakistan captain: Match had become quite difficult. If you don't take catches, even 280 won't be enough. Boys are working hard, but are dropping catches at crucial junctures. I thought the pitch looked a bit difficult for batting. Had we taken early wickets, it wouldn't have been such an easy chase. We take a lot of time for recover after losing a couple of early wickets. Credit to Rohit Sharma and Shikhar Dhawan for superb batting. We have to improve our skill levels if we are to make it to the final.

Honestly it is convenient on part of Sarfaraz to put the blame on fielding- The game was lost in the first 10 overs of Pak innings. Nobody can teach you how to rotate the strike on your so-called homeground. And obviously he is not addressing the elephant in the room - his own bad & defensive captaincy. Yes, catches got dropped but then the bowlers could have still targeted the stumps & trapped batsmen lbw/ clean bowled. As i see it is a lack of team plan & more his own fault than anybody else.
 
This is what happens when India is going around playing all the top teams in the world while Pakistan is playing the likes of Srilanka and Zimbabwe. We are not used to playing opposition like India and it showed in our fielding. Its shocking the catches we dropped in these games taking into consideration before this we were the top fielding side in the world. Fielding is very much a confidence thing and Pakistan is really lacking in confidence at the moment which is why the struggle.

In the batting department India bowled really well according to their fields. Good batsmen use angles and find a way through that and are able to get the singles. Im afraid Fakhar Zaman has been found out. India has found the right line and length to bowl at him which doesnt allow him to play. Grant will really need to work on this. Pakistan need Fakhar and Babar to fire if they are to win games as the lower middle order isnt good enough to get them out of tough spots. They did yesterday to a certain extent but it was not enough in any way.

Pakistan needs to get self belief and confidence up and for that we need to win big against Bangladesh.
 
Extremely poor statement as a skipper. Seems like he has surrendered already. I honestly do not agree with this. Mentally they are weak i do agree but skills wise i think they are good and need to hold onto their nerves
 
Don't think there is any need of panic. All Pakistani batsmen need to take a resolve that they will play 10-15% less dot balls than they played yesterday, and that itself would mean a difference of 15-20 runs.
 
After 2 one sided affairs. How much more worse could it get. I might as well play my natural game. Last time fakhar played fearless cricket and the results were in front. The batsman need to open up, assess the conditions and play with their flair
 
Yes we have been exposed and the reality is that wr are short of playig quality opposition. But i cannot agree to the fqct that our potential isnt up their. If that is what the skipper thinks. He might as well relieve his captaincy as i seem to doubt his ability to lead the team
 
Generally speaking, Indian bowlers bowl very good line and length with White Ball cricket against Pakistan.

That has always been the case, india has mostly beaten Pakistan in big White ball matches 1985 Benson and Hedges Final, Bangalore 96 QF or Mohali SF 2011 and Sydney 92 and Manchester 1999.

Pakistan's famous wins have traditionally been in red ball big finals against India.
1986/1994 Australasia Cup final
1989 Nehru cup
1991 sharjah cup final
1987 away test series win
chennai 1999 kolkata 1999

Only exception has been India winning away test series in Pakistan 2004 red ball match. Pakistan winning icc champions trophy final a white ball match.
 
Its actually great to admit that there is gulf in skill levels b/w their and your team atleast it will release the pressure from our team and they will be in a nothing to loose position which is where we are best against any opposition.
 
The statement is very correct, Skill levels of Indians are just higher however for Pakistan the biggest improvement is needed in the heads. The only one who didn't take the pressure of the match was Malik and see how he performed or performs against India.
 
What's with the pessimism? It's just a couple of matches.

Expect better from a level-headed poster.

In regards to the team I am not writing them off at all. I am unhappy with the selections and Sarfraz mainly. I expect better from the captain of the team , but I have now made peace that Sarfraz is an average player.

Find a single post where I have written off the whole team or 1 of the new players such as Fakhar and Hasan Ali like others have ?
 
Your skill level will never be good enough.

How will they develop if they play minnows all the time? When they play big teams they will try to polish and develop their skills.

But PCB and even fans on PP are happy when Pakistan beat up WI ZIM SL etc.

So the fault lies with the board.
 
How will they develop if they play minnows all the time? When they play big teams they will try to polish and develop their skills.

But PCB and even fans on PP are happy when Pakistan beat up WI ZIM SL etc.

So the fault lies with the board.

There are only 5 good teams at the moment and none of them wants to play us regularly. Australia , southafrica , neezealand and england usually have their schedules packed and last time we played a good team we were defeated easily by them( new zealand). You are right that pakistan needs to play good teams to improve but if it does not happen pakistan needs to find a way around.
 
How will they develop if they play minnows all the time? When they play big teams they will try to polish and develop their skills.

But PCB and even fans on PP are happy when Pakistan beat up WI ZIM SL etc.

So the fault lies with the board.


Sarfraz will never be good enough no matter how many top teams he plays.

In regards to the younger players they do need to face the top teams more to improve.
 
Generally speaking, Indian bowlers bowl very good line and length with White Ball cricket against Pakistan.

That has always been the case, india has mostly beaten Pakistan in big White ball matches 1985 Benson and Hedges Final, Bangalore 96 QF or Mohali SF 2011 and Sydney 92 and Manchester 1999.

Pakistan's famous wins have traditionally been in red ball big finals against India.
1986/1994 Australasia Cup final
1989 Nehru cup
1991 sharjah cup final
1987 away test series win
chennai 1999 kolkata 1999

Only exception has been India winning away test series in Pakistan 2004 red ball match. Pakistan winning icc champions trophy final a white ball match.

2006 U19 WC Final
 
It is almost zero and will never be that good as long we have Inzi keep recycle players again and again
 
Also too many non-performers in the team. You can get away with Some lower International C or D team but not with top team. If Zimbabwe played their main squad we would loose at least 2 ODI if not 3.
 
In regards to the team I am not writing them off at all. I am unhappy with the selections and Sarfraz mainly. I expect better from the captain of the team , but I have now made peace that Sarfraz is an average player.

Find a single post where I have written off the whole team or 1 of the new players such as Fakhar and Hasan Ali like others have ?

It's good that you haven't.

I thought you were replying in alignment to what Sarfraz was implying that "our" (the team's) skill levels weren't quite up to the mark. Thought you were talking about the entire team.
 
There are only 5 good teams at the moment and none of them wants to play us regularly. Australia , southafrica , neezealand and england usually have their schedules packed and last time we played a good team we were defeated easily by them( new zealand). You are right that pakistan needs to play good teams to improve but if it does not happen pakistan needs to find a way around.

Send them on A tours. Check the team Australia sent for its A team tour of India.

Pakistan should play a B or C team againist minnows and send main team to A tours of SENA countries. That will do the main team more good.
 
It's good that you haven't.

I thought you were replying in alignment to what Sarfraz was implying that "our" (the team's) skill levels weren't quite up to the mark. Thought you were talking about the entire team.


I can see there is talent in this team. They need more experience. But when the captain isn't leading from the front it can drag the entire team down.
 
Send them on A tours. Check the team Australia sent for its A team tour of India.

Pakistan should play a B or C team againist minnows and send main team to A tours of SENA countries. That will do the main team more good.

Good point Joshila.
 
Until the captain leads from the front, the rest of the team is jolted.

An inspiring performance against SL gave the team confidence to beat ENG in ENG last year.

Can he do it again?

Even if he does, he needs to shed more pounds, start batting with more vigor and less lofted shots, and most importantly, needs to induce a relaxed environment.
 
I don't think India have done anything special; Pakistan have simply failed to bring their A game (and are paying the price for an unbalanced squad).
 
I don't think India have done anything special; Pakistan have simply failed to bring their A game (and are paying the price for an unbalanced squad).

Bumrah bowled yorker after yorker to shut them down in the last game. Thats the thing with crushing victories: makes its seem like the winning is hardly trying and the other is imploding (like India did vs. Pakistan somewhat in the CT).
As for unbalanced squad - people keep harping about the spinners, whereas its clear we lose the game because of the batting only. Put up 280 - 300 runs if you want to give your bowlers a chance.
 
India are a class above, both technically and mentally. When I say that I don't mean they are that much better, but just a little better in each department leads to convincing wins in 50 over games. Pakistan team still looks amateurish, perhaps because they don't get enough exposure to top level cricket like the Indians do. Sarfraz himself is a reflection of that, he lacks authority and conviction in his game, always looks like he could be out any ball.
 
Bumrah bowled yorker after yorker to shut them down in the last game. Thats the thing with crushing victories: makes its seem like the winning is hardly trying and the other is imploding (like India did vs. Pakistan somewhat in the CT).
As for unbalanced squad - people keep harping about the spinners, whereas its clear we lose the game because of the batting only. Put up 280 - 300 runs if you want to give your bowlers a chance.

Bumrah was brilliant. I didn't say otherwise. But I still maintain India simply did the basics right, and that's all they needed to do on the day given Pakistan's abject performance.
 
All Pakistan did in CT finals was cash in on India's off day and Bumrah's noball.Somehow people are equating India and Pakistan in same sentence.Sarfraz is right Pakistan is not on same level as India.

The second best team in this Asia cup has been Afghanistan , they just have not been lucky enough to win close matches.They are new still learning but if they find couple of player they will become a major force.
 
Bumrah was brilliant. I didn't say otherwise. But I still maintain India simply did the basics right, and that's all they needed to do on the day given Pakistan's abject performance.
Bowling successive yorkers is not basics. It is an advanced skill that even the best international bowlers find hard to acquire.
 
Bowling successive yorkers is not basics. It is an advanced skill that even the best international bowlers find hard to acquire.

Last time I checked Bumrah and India aren't one and the same.
 
Last time I checked Bumrah and India aren't one and the same.

Even a trundler like Kaul consistently bowled yorkers in the death today against AFG. Indian bowlers have actually developed some important skills required in LOIs and that is down to the IPL, as much as [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] would refuse to admit. This is down to the high quality of cricket in the IPL where even lesser players like Kaul get to bowl to ABD, Kohli, Warner, etc everyday.
 
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Even a trundler like Kaul consistently bowled yorkers in the death today against AFG. Indian bowlers have actually developed some important skills required in LOIs and that is down to the IPL, as much as [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] would refuse to admit. This is down to the high quality of cricket in the IPL were even lesser players like Kaul get to bowl to ABD, Kohli, Warner, etc everyday.

We are talking about the Pakistan v India match. Kaul didn't play so not sure why that is relevant.
 
We are talking about the Pakistan v India match. Kaul didn't play so not sure why that is relevant.

No. Indo-Pak matches aren't the only one that matters. I think that much has been proved in this past week.

You are wrong in saying that Indian bowlers "just did the basics right". It's damn hard to do the basics right against top quality batsmen day in and day out.

If you're underestimating what it takes to gain those skills then it is symptomatic of what is happening in Pakistan cricket at the moment. Talent alone isn't everything. You need proper structure, investment, etc for the team to become high quality.
 
No. Indo-Pak matches aren't the only one that matters.

Sigh. The conversation I was having with another poster was about the Pakistan v India match. You decided to interfere and start talking about something irrelevant and are now too embarrassed to admit your mistake.
 
We should stop taking India as our benchmark and concentrate on our cricket. Unfortunately most fans will always regard the match against India as the benchmark. Hence why a win against India is seen as if we are worldbeater and a lost creates extra pressure on the players.
 
Sigh. The conversation I was having with another poster was about the Pakistan v India match. You decided to interfere and start talking about something irrelevant and are now too embarrassed to admit your mistake.

But the inference you were making from that was generic which doesn't cut.
 
It's a poor statement overall and it's not entirely true either. Without Kohli the Indian ODI XI is not a world-beating side.
 
We should stop taking India as our benchmark and concentrate on our cricket. Unfortunately most fans will always regard the match against India as the benchmark. Hence why a win against India is seen as if we are worldbeater and a lost creates extra pressure on the players.

When you have high benchmarks is when you strive to get better.
 
When you have high benchmarks is when you strive to get better.

No in our context what I mean with benchmark is that fan expect the team to win against India. If you do they will glorify it as the best team ever and if you lose you no amount of progress is recognized and you become the worst team ever.
 
Very honest observation by skip. Key mistakes cost us the match but we did a lot better than first outing. Yes it was biggest margin of defeat ever but we made some blunders dropping catches and first three wickets was a joke.
 
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