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India's strategy is simple

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Save wickets for 35 overs and play 20/20 in last 15 overs and get to reach 320-330. Only way to dismiss their plan is early wickets. If you dont get early wickets then with their expeirence of IPL, thwy will clean you in last 15 overs.

If you have 170 in 35 overs and plenty of wicket, you can score 150 in last 15 overs.
 
Hasn't this been the strategy of teams ever since start of ODI cricket? Keep wickets in hand and accelerate at the end.. What's rocket science or new in this?
 
Every strategy is simple. It execution that matters .
 
Hasn't this been the strategy of teams ever since start of ODI cricket? Keep wickets in hand and accelerate at the end.. What's rocket science or new in this?

No.

Pak used to save wickets and go berserk in the end back in 90's.

Most ODI teams try to score as much as possible in the first 10 overs where field restrictions are there. Then they consolidate in the middle and again go on a rampage in the final 10 overs.

India is only scoring briskly in the final 10 overs. The first 10 overs is all tuk tuk.
 
It'll backfire soon enough, they're way too cautious at the top and don't make full use of their deep batting.
 
Its fine doing it against Sri Lanka and Pakistan.

When they face an England team at home on a flat pitch, do they think that a score of 300-330 is enough? I doubt it.
 
No.

Pak used to save wickets and go berserk in the end back in 90's.

Most ODI teams try to score as much as possible in the first 10 overs where field restrictions are there. Then they consolidate in the middle and again go on a rampage in the final 10 overs.

India is only scoring briskly in the final 10 overs. The first 10 overs is all tuk tuk.

I meant this is not a new strategy from start of ODI's this is the strategy which teams used.. Then Sanath and kalu happened in 96 and a new strategy was formed regardless point is notthing new in this strategy and I don't understand why a thread has been opened up stating the obvious..
 
India never used to Tuk Tuk before in for 1st 15 overs during the 90s - 2000s when Tendulkar - Ganguly were opening or when later Ganguly was replaced by Sehwag.

It was only after the arrival of Rohit and Dhawan as openers, India started with the safety first approach during the first 20 overs.

Today, if India doesn't lose wicket for the first 25 overs the score is around 120-130.

I remember very often if no wicket were lost then the Indian score after 25 overs was atleast 155-160 when SRT-Ganguly were openers.
 
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It'll backfire soon enough, they're way too cautious at the top and don't make full use of their deep batting.

I agree.

These days sides like England and Australia can easily chase 330+. India need to show more intent in the first 10-20 overs. They should have got 340-350 today.
 
Its fine doing it against Sri Lanka and Pakistan.

When they face an England team at home on a flat pitch, do they think that a score of 300-330 is enough? I doubt it.

Yes, 320+ is still a great target, look at the win/loss ratio of teams after they score 320+ in the batting first, chasing 320+ is still a difficult task, and considering the fact that england probably has the worst bowling attack in the world, we'll comfortably score more than 350 against them, we just beat england 2-1 on flat pitches very recently, don't where the hype for this english side comes from , they are our punching bags

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...2012;spanval1=span;template=results;type=team
 
I agree.

These days sides like England and Australia can easily chase 330+. India need to show more intent in the first 10-20 overs. They should have got 340-350 today.

Australia has never chased a single 320+ score in the last 5 years, england has chased 320+ just once in the last 5 years
 
I'd love to see Junaid, Ruman, Amir, Hasan, Shahdab, Hafeez placed against India in last 10-15 overs for same wicketless situation again.
 
This strategy is exactly what lost us WC2015.

The power-hitting game has advanced far beyond India's reach. Our strategy is safer, but will fail consistently on non-spinning flat decks.
 
The ruthlessness in batting is missing also if you are following this strategy then you need to pace your innings properly.. You can't be 200/1 in 40 overs and hit 100-120 in last 10.. These days if on flat tracks you are 130/0 in 25 overs you need to accelerate a bit to be 220-230/1 or 2 in 40 overs and then try to hit 350/360 in next 10...

Little bit tinkering required in this strategy to make it more suitable for modern times..
 
See the tuk tuk at the top means India couldn't maximize their potential to put up a mammoth target which is now well within Sri Lanka's reach.
 
Australia has never chased a single 320+ score in the last 5 years, england has chased 320+ just once in the last 5 years

Okay my bad, thanks for the correction however I still think par scores need to be looked at again. A few years ago 320+ was extremely good however now to be safe you really must push on if you can and aim higher. India can't afford to be so defensive early on.
 
It's a bad plan on flat wickets.

Bowling let's us down after a while this match. Good win for lanka
 
IMO when a batsman scores 70 plus or even 100 plus, he has to have an ending strike rate of 120 plus. Dhawan's innings turned out to be a selfish one in the end.
 
IMO when a batsman scores 70 plus or even 100 plus, he has to have an ending strike rate of 120 plus. Dhawan's innings turned out to be a selfish one in the end.

Totally agreed.

No score is safe on these roads. Definitely not 320.
 
As I say the target should always be 100 runs in the first 20 over at the expense of losing no more then two wickets. This gives the side an excellent chance of scoring at least 300. Can't do that when you have a blocker like Azhar just standing there doing nothing.
 
You can't say 320 wasn't enough. Especially on a large ground like the Oval.

Indian bowling once again was terrible.

Kohli needs the seniors to help him in captaincy. Can't do it all himself. He is only human.
 
Yes, a very simple strategy:misbah3

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Useless strategy, Indian opening batting stands have regressed, the standards are down.

120/0 in 25 overs is considered a good start instead of targeting 160/2 in 25 overs .

I'm sick of Rohit tuk tuk Sharma, he nearly lost the game against Pakistan too due to his tuk tuk but luckily Yuvi and Kohli lead India to a decent score.

India is trying to emulate the 80s Pakistani strategy of saving wickets upfront and slog in last ten overs. Pathetic and unacceptable.
 
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I agree.

These days sides like England and Australia can easily chase 330+. India need to show more intent in the first 10-20 overs. They should have got 340-350 today.

Didn't even need to wait for a good team. Sri Lanka destroyed this awful strategy
 
Useless strategy, Indian opening batting stands have regressed, the standards are down.

120/0 in 25 overs is considered a good start instead of targeting 160/2 in 25 overs .

I'm sick of Rohit tuk tuk Sharma, he nearly lost the game against Pakistan too due to his tuk tuk but luckily Yuvi and Kohli lead India to a decent score.

India is trying to emulate the 80s Pakistani strategy of saving wickets upfront and slog in last ten overs. Pathetic and unacceptable.


Pathetic batting from Rohit and Dhawan. They ate away 200 balls and only scored 190.

When he partnership is only 190in 200 balls faced, it's a match losing effort especially on these flat beds.

Dhawan and Rohit should have scored 200 in the 30 overs they faced. Never really accelerated once they got 50's . Basically thinking that 300 is enough to beat lowly Lankans. A rude awakening.

Anybody could score a 50 on these wickets. But scoring fast is why sets apart winning team from an average team.
 
Useless strategy, Indian opening batting stands have regressed, the standards are down.

120/0 in 25 overs is considered a good start instead of targeting 160/2 in 25 overs .

I'm sick of Rohit tuk tuk Sharma, he nearly lost the game against Pakistan too due to his tuk tuk but luckily Yuvi and Kohli lead India to a decent score.

India is trying to emulate the 80s Pakistani strategy of saving wickets upfront and slog in last ten overs. Pathetic and unacceptable.

They where showing a stat that after 2015 WC India are low in the tabe in the first 10 overs lower then pakistan too.
 
The kind of batsmen Indians have , they can easily go for 6 an over through 40 overs , and then last 10 target 80 - 90 runs.
 
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