Individual Performance Track - New Era T20I Team (Under Mike Hesson and Salman Ali Agha) [Update@post#178]

[RidiculousMan]

I'm making this thread specifically for the purpose/s of tracking the individuals and their performances that are playing under the new Head coach (Heyson) and Captain (Salman). Their era began on 16 March, 2025 with T20I away series in New Zealand.

On this thread we can compare players stat and performances before and after the new setup took over. We will see which players are improving and how this pool of players is going to shape up before the WT20 2026.

Below are some stats (As of 4 August, 2025):

Top 10 - Most Runs



- Hasan Nawaz by far has the highest Strike Rate (175.64), 3rd highest Average (28.25) and most Sixes (27).
- Salman Agha has the 2nd highest Average (36.66) and also has hit most Fours (34).
- Sahibzada Farhan has the highest Average (38.16) and 2nd most Sixes (16).
- In this era thus far in 14 games. Two batters have already scored a 100 (Hasan and Haris).


Top 10 - Most Wickets



- Salman Mirza has the best Average (8.57), best Strike Rate (9.8) and 2nd best Economy (5.21).
- Sufiyan Muqeem has the best Economy (4.64) and 3rd best Average (13.00).
- Mohammad Nawaz has the 2nd best Strike Rate (10.00).
- Hasan Ali has the 3rd best Strike Rate (10.8) and also has a fifer.
- Spinners have lower Economy than Pacers.

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I will try to keep make update posts with time.

 

[Rana]

Khwaja Nafay and Mohammad Naeem should be given a chance too.


Yasir Khan has the potential to be a like for like to Sahibzada Farhan!

 

[RidiculousMan]

Khwaja Nafay and Mohammad Naeem should be given a chance too.


Yasir Khan has the potential to be a like for like to Sahibzada Farhan!

I think Abdul Samad should be given a chance on subcontinent wickets.

 

[Rana]

I think Abdul Samad should be given a chance on subcontinent wickets.

Him and Niazi will eventually fizzle out

They will disappoint like Haider Ali did.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Him and Niazi will eventually fizzle out

They will disappoint like Haider Ali did.

They're the future. Particularly Niazi. He'll comeback

 

[Rana]

They're the future. Particularly Niazi. He'll comeback

I’ve seen them close enough, and I know what their strengths are. I’m not even a pro coach, so those who have those jobs will already have worked out what to bowl against them.

They are leg-side hacks

Misbah discovers plenty of them in the name of modern T20.

 

[shamaan]

They're the future. Particularly Niazi. He'll comeback

Henson prefers Al rounders.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Khwaja Nafay and Mohammad Naeem should be given a chance too.


Yasir Khan has the potential to be a like for like to Sahibzada Farhan!

Already have too many openers. Don't need to add another one. Naeem is an exciting talent, but he needs to wait his turn. He doesn't make the team over Farhan, Saim and Fakhar.

Khawaja Nafay has done nothing to earn that opportunity.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

One of the biggest problems with the Pakistan team under Babar was that they were not hitting enough sixes. I would be really interested to know the comparison of sixes hit by Pakistan between 2023-2024 and since Hesson took over.

Side-note, Has Pakistan's bowling ever looked worse across formats than it does right now?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Henson prefers Al rounders.

He seems to be preferring them a bit too much. I am not totally opposed but I do feel a bit uneasy looking at the line up and seeing all those bits and pieces. It's a bit skimpy. Reminds me of an episode in the office US where Meredith is wearing a skimpy dress, when she pulls it up it reveals her bottom half and when she adjusts the bottom it reveals the top half.

That's how our line up feels, seems like Hesson is trying to cover too much.

 

[RidiculousMan]

He seems to be preferring them a bit too much. I am not totally opposed but I do feel a bit uneasy looking at the line up and seeing all those bits and pieces. It's a bit skimpy. Reminds me of an episode in the office US where Meredith is wearing a skimpy dress, when she pulls it up it reveals her bottom half and when she adjusts the bottom it reveals the top half.

That's how our line up feels, seems like Hesson is trying to cover too much.

That's his whole thing. In Islamabad United he had Naseem Shah batting at no. 11.

I'm not a huge fan of too many bits and pieces either. But I'm willing to see his experiments.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

That's his whole thing. In Islamabad United he had Naseem Shah batting at no. 11.

I'm not a huge fan of too many bits and pieces either. But I'm willing to see his experiments.

Yeah let's see where he takes us. I like him as a coach. At least he has a strategy.

 

[Rana]

Already have too many openers. Don't need to add another one. Naeem is an exciting talent, but he needs to wait his turn. He doesn't make the team over Farhan, Saim and Fakhar.

Khawaja Nafay has done nothing to earn that opportunity.

You are right but you should always have options for back ups

Look at Windies now. They don’t have a back up for Johnson Charles. They need that guy to be their big hitter opener for the powerplay.

We can’t be complacent if Farhan and Saim lose their way or hit a brick wall at some point.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

That's his whole thing. In Islamabad United he had Naseem Shah batting at no. 11.

I'm not a huge fan of too many bits and pieces either. But I'm willing to see his experiments.

Ya that's why i think why faheem nawaz has came back to the side hesson plan always has been playing all rounders which can be good in t20 because before hesson nawaz was no where the team are you happy with nawaz faheem and hussain talat being preferred bro?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

You are right but you should always have options for back ups

Look at Windies now. They don’t have a back up for Johnson Charles. They need that guy to be their big hitter opener for the powerplay.

We can’t be complacent if Farhan and Saim lose their way or hit a brick wall at some point.

I'm okay keeping him as a back-up or even debuting him in the tri-series against UAE and Afghanistan. But at the same time we shouldn't lose sight of what the core group of this team is. They themselves haven't exactly established themselves or gotten comfortable in these roles yet either. And the T20 WC is right around the corner.

 

[shamaan]

He seems to be preferring them a bit too much. I am not totally opposed but I do feel a bit uneasy looking at the line up and seeing all those bits and pieces. It's a bit skimpy. Reminds me of an episode in the office US where Meredith is wearing a skimpy dress, when she pulls it up it reveals her bottom half and when she adjusts the bottom it reveals the top half.

That's how our line up feels, seems like Hesson is trying to cover too much.

I agree we already have Saim and Agha who can fill the 6th bowling option.No need to play so many all rounders.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Ya that's why i think why faheem nawaz has came back to the side hesson plan always has been playing all rounders which can be good in t20 because before hesson nawaz was no where the team are you happy with nawaz faheem and hussain talat being preferred bro?

I'm okay with Nawaz. Faheem and Talat need to prove a lot.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Pakistan T20I Boundaries per Year Analysis:
​

2023 (1 Jan – 31 Dec)​

• Matches: 11
• Players Used: 32
• Boundaries:
  
  
  • Sixes: 59 (5.36 per match)
  • Fours: 117 (10.63 per match)
    
• Top Six-Hitter: Iftikhar Ahmed – 13 sixes in 5 innings (2.6 per innings)
  
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2024 (1 Jan – 31 Dec)​

• Matches: 27
• Players Used: 32
• Boundaries:
  
  
  • Sixes: 152 (5.62 per match)
  • Fours: 311 (11.51 per match)
    
• Top Six-Hitter: Fakhar Zaman – 28 sixes in 15 innings (1.85 per innings)
  
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2025 (1 Jan – 5 Aug) – Heyson & Salman Era​

• Matches: 14
• Players Used: 25
• Boundaries:
  
  
  • Sixes: 108 (7.7 per match)
  • Fours: 159 (11.35 per match)
    
• Top Six-Hitter: Hasan Nawaz – 27 sixes in 14 innings (1.92 per innings)
  
  
  @RedwoodOriginal since you asked

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Pakistan T20I Boundaries per Year Analysis:
​

2023 (1 Jan – 31 Dec)​

• Matches: 11
• Players Used: 32
• Boundaries:
  
  
  • Sixes: 59 (5.36 per match)
  • Fours: 117 (10.63 per match)
    
• Top Six-Hitter: Iftikhar Ahmed – 13 sixes in 5 innings (2.6 per innings)
  
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2024 (1 Jan – 31 Dec)​

• Matches: 27
• Players Used: 32
• Boundaries:
  
  
  • Sixes: 152 (5.62 per match)
  • Fours: 311 (11.51 per match)
    
• Top Six-Hitter: Fakhar Zaman – 28 sixes in 15 innings (1.85 per innings)
  
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2025 (1 Jan – 5 Aug) – Heyson & Salman Era​

• Matches: 14
• Players Used: 25
• Boundaries:
  
  
  • Sixes: 108 (7.7 per match)
  • Fours: 159 (11.35 per match)
    
• Top Six-Hitter: Hasan Nawaz – 27 sixes in 14 innings (1.92 per innings)
  
  
  @RedwoodOriginal since you asked

Thanks for sharing this detailed breakdown bro. Reinforces what was on my mind.

This team has ways to go but they are starting to show they have the right approach.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Pakistan T20I Boundaries per Year Analysis:
​

2023 (1 Jan – 31 Dec)​

• Matches: 11
• Players Used: 32
• Boundaries:
  
  
  • Sixes: 59 (5.36 per match)
  • Fours: 117 (10.63 per match)
    
• Top Six-Hitter: Iftikhar Ahmed – 13 sixes in 5 innings (2.6 per innings)
  
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2024 (1 Jan – 31 Dec)​

• Matches: 27
• Players Used: 32
• Boundaries:
  
  
  • Sixes: 152 (5.62 per match)
  • Fours: 311 (11.51 per match)
    
• Top Six-Hitter: Fakhar Zaman – 28 sixes in 15 innings (1.85 per innings)
  
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2025 (1 Jan – 5 Aug) – Heyson & Salman Era​

• Matches: 14
• Players Used: 25
• Boundaries:
  
  
  • Sixes: 108 (7.7 per match)
  • Fours: 159 (11.35 per match)
    
• Top Six-Hitter: Hasan Nawaz – 27 sixes in 14 innings (1.92 per innings)
  
  
  @RedwoodOriginal since you asked

The most immediate thing that stands out between now and 2023-24 is the disproportionate gap between fours and sixes.

 

[shamaan]

I'm okay with Nawaz. Faheem and Talat need to prove a lot.

Talat should definitely not be in the t20 side.

 

[Ball Blazer]

The Men’s T20I Player Rankings see Pakistan’s Hasan Nawaz (up 24 places to 30th), Saim Ayub (up 25 to joint-37th) and Sahibzada Farhan (up 34 to 63rd) make notable progress after Pakistan won their T20I series against the West Indies 2-1

 

[Rana]

All progress is about to come crashing down im afraid.

I am praying the news of the two curses returning is not true!

 

[Usman Chadda]

All progress is about to come crashing down im afraid.

I am praying the news of the two curses returning is not true!

While I don't want to see Babar or Rizwan come back, we haven't made much progress since the two got dropped.

 

[Rana]

While I don't want to see Babar or Rizwan come back, we haven't made much progress since the two got dropped.

No progress?

You’ve broken your T20 powerplay record

You’ve broken your fastest T20 hundred record

You’ve broken the record of a player outside of opening slot making a T20 hundred

Pakistan is averaging the highest in middle overs against spin in the world with the bat since 2025

What kind of progress are you looking for???

 

[RidiculousMan]

All progress is about to come crashing down im afraid.

I am praying the news of the two curses returning is not true!

I think it was clear that outside of Saim, Haris, Farhan and Fakhar. The backup options would be Babar and Rizwan.

Heyson actually really adore Babar. This was evident for a very brief online interaction I had with him when I asked him about Babar.

 

[Usman Chadda]

No progress?

You’ve broken your T20 powerplay record

You’ve broken your fastest T20 hundred record

You’ve broken the record of a player outside of opening slot making a T20 hundred

Pakistan is averaging the highest in middle overs against spin in the world with the bat since 2025

What kind of progress are you looking for???

Smashed 4-1 by a NZ C side.

Lost two games in a row to Bangladesh in humiliating fashion just recently.

Lost a game to this pathetic West Indies team, which has been getting white-washed for fun by everyone, including Bangladesh.

We will go into the Asia Cup as one of the worst top Asian sides in the competition, with India, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka comfortably better than us.

So, what progress have we made besides some individual records?

 

[Rana]

Smashed 4-1 by a NZ C side.

Lost two games in a row to Bangladesh in humiliating fashion just recently.

Lost a game to this pathetic West Indies team, which has been getting white-washed for fun by everyone, including Bangladesh.

We will go into the Asia Cup as one of the worst top Asian sides in the competition, with India, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka comfortably better than us.

So, what progress have we made besides some individual records?

How many series did Pakistan win in T20s since Agha took over?

Who was the last team that we beat under Babar and Rizwan’s captaincy? When was it??

 

[RidiculousMan]

So, what progress have we made besides some individual records?

Pakistan team is hitting more boundaries and scoring higher runs on average on respective pitches. The difference is big.

 

[Rana]

Pakistan team is hitting more boundaries and scoring higher runs on average on respective pitches. The difference is big.

I mean you have to be living on Pluto not to be able to see it.

 

[Usman Chadda]

How many series did Pakistan win in T20s since Agha took over?

Who was the last team that we beat under Babar and Rizwan’s captaincy? When was it??

Series wins against Bangladesh at home and a terrible West Indies, who we dropped a game to when no one else in the world does.

We have been five down for nothing in numerous games aswell.

Honestly, there's not been much of a difference in terms of progress. We will get destroyed by top teams on a regular basis, regardless of the make-up of our team.

 

[Rana]

Series wins against Bangladesh at home and a terrible West Indies, who we dropped a game to when no one else in the world does.

We have been five down for nothing in numerous games aswell.

Honestly, there's not been much of a difference in terms of progress. We will get destroyed by top teams on a regular basis, regardless of the make-up of our team.

Just answer a simple question

When was the last time Pakistan won a T20 series? You could have simply said Ireland but you want to make dumb excuses

Your looking for the wrong things.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Just answer a simple question

When was the last time Pakistan won a T20 series? You could have simply said Ireland but you want to make dumb excuses

Your looking for the wrong things.

We shall see. I don't think we have made any progress whatsoever, despite these lads trying hard to change the perception around our team.

Asia Cup is going to be painful.

 

[mominsaigol]

Smashed 4-1 by a NZ C side.

Lost two games in a row to Bangladesh in humiliating fashion just recently.

Lost a game to this pathetic West Indies team, which has been getting white-washed for fun by everyone, including Bangladesh.

We will go into the Asia Cup as one of the worst top Asian sides in the competition, with India, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka comfortably better than us.

So, what progress have we made besides some individual records?

NZ are difficult conditons for a brand new side. It isnt fair to use that comparison.

Agree with the rest though. Although not fair to use the Australia comparison. They are the better team transitioning or not.

They always have been even during Pakistan's golden days.

Pk and NZ are the 2 bunnies of Australia in any event not counting odi series where they play 2nd string and the UAE test series which is our only outlier vs them and probs Pakistan's greatest test achievment of all time.

Even in 1992 our luck depended on avoiding Aus in knockout stages. Same case with ct 2017 and 2009 t20 wc.

We can't beat them if they play full strength in tournaments.

 

[Mamoon]

Not surprised to see that Fakhar continues to be a slow, garbage top order batsman in T20Is even under the so-called aggressive and modern management

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Not surprised to see that Fakhar continues to be a slow, garbage top order batsman in T20Is even under the so-called aggressive and modern management

It's still 5 matches, which is not a big sample-size. Rizwan had a SR of 117 last year across 21 T20I matches.

 

[cricketmania22]

There has been no progress made. Losing a series to Bangladesh negates any progress whatsoever. And let’s not even mention what happened in NZ. Player by player there isn’t much to go by either. Salmon Ali Agha, even though he has improved but he no way near the international level yet. Would be exposed badly soon. Harris is a horror. How are we continuing with him is a mystery. Hasan Nawaz is the only positive thing inclusion in this new team. Bowing is still bad.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Not surprised to see that Fakhar continues to be a slow, garbage top order batsman in T20Is even under the so-called aggressive and modern management

These days Fakhar is not even fit enough.

But I agree that he can be used better down the order. Let the youngsters open.

 

[Usman Chadda]

NZ are difficult conditons for a brand new side. It isnt fair to use that comparison.

Agree with the rest though. Although not fair to use the Australia comparison. They are the better team transitioning or not.

They always have been even during Pakistan's golden days.

Pk and NZ are the 2 bunnies of Australia in any event not counting odi series where they play 2nd string and the UAE test series which is our only outlier vs them and probs Pakistan's greatest test achievment of all time.

Even in 1992 our luck depended on avoiding Aus in knockout stages. Same case with ct 2017 and 2009 t20 wc.

We can't beat them if they play full strength in tournaments.

Where did I compare us with Australia? We are not in the same league as them in any format, sorry to say.

I was just reiterating why I believe we haven’t made much progress since the dynamic duo were dropped. As a poster in this thread said, losing a series to Bangladesh negates any semblance of progress that was being thought of.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Del

 

[RidiculousMan]

I wanted to take a look at top performers for each position between the start of this new T20I era (16 March, 2025) and now.

Below include the best + 2nd best choice for each batting position till no. 8.

Pos	Best (Avg/SR)	2nd Best (Avg/SR)
1.	S Farhan (46/150)	M Haris (13/118)
2.	H Nawaz (27/186)	S Ayub (25/139)
3.	M Haris (38/176)	S Agha (39/138)
4.	H Nawaz (47/181)	S Agha (30/113)
5.	S Agha (42/127)	H Nawaz (15/138)
6.	H Nawaz (40/174)	S Khan (27/165)
7.	S Khan (28/140)	A Samad (21/127)
8.	F Ashraf (22/160)	A Afridi (12/82)

 

[shariqnoor]

What are the bowling stats? Shaheen, Naseem, Rauf all have stagnated and none have won Pakistan any matches for a long time. Pakistan won't win much if the bowling continues to be rubbish.

 

[RidiculousMan]

I wanted to take a look at top performers for each position between the start of this new T20I era (16 March, 2025) and now.

Below include the best + 2nd best choice for each batting position till no. 8.

Pos	Best (Avg/SR)	2nd Best (Avg/SR)
1.	S Farhan (46/150)	M Haris (13/118)
2.	H Nawaz (27/186)	S Ayub (25/139)
3.	M Haris (38/176)	S Agha (39/138)
4.	H Nawaz (47/181)	S Agha (30/113)
5.	S Agha (42/127)	H Nawaz (15/138)
6.	H Nawaz (40/174)	S Khan (27/165)
7.	S Khan (28/140)	A Samad (21/127)
8.	F Ashraf (22/160)	A Afridi (12/82)

The sample size is small but within the context and only going by these stats some of the facts are;

- Farhan has been the best opener.
- Haris has done well at no. 3
- Salman's best position is at no. 3 (suggesting that he needs time to play an anchor role).
- H Nawaz is better in top 4 (he's not just your death overs hitter).
- After H Nawaz, Shadab was the best batter in death overs.

 

[RidiculousMan]

This for the bowlers between 16 March, 2025 and now. For batting look above posts.

I have separated the tables for Fast and Spin bowlers. The sample size is small compared to career of these players.

Fast Bowlers

Phase	Best (Econ / Avg / SR)	2nd Best 2 (Econ / Avg / SR)
1-6 (Powerplay)	S Mirza (4.58 / 7.0 / 9.2)	H Rauf (7.64 / 21.0 / 16.5)
7-11 (Early Middle)	A Afridi (8.00 / 32.0 / 24.0)	F Ashraf (8.73 / 16.0 / 11.0)
12-16 (Late Middle)	S Afridi (8.50 / 8.5 / 6.0)	A Afridi (8.25 / 16.5 / 12.0)
17-20 (Death)	A Afridi (10.00 / 10.0 / 6.0)	H Rauf (10.00 / 17.5 / 10.5)

Spin Bowlers

Phase	Best (Econ / Avg / SR)	2nd Best (Econ / Avg / SR)
1-6 (Powerplay)	M Nawaz (8.50 / 17.0 / 12.0)	S Ayub (9.60 / - / -)
7-11 (Early Middle)	S Muqeem (5.14 / 18.0 / 21.0)	M Nawaz (5.57 / 19.5 / 21.0)
12-16 (Late Middle)	S Muqeem (4.75 / - / -)	M Nawaz (5.40 / 5.4 / 6.0)
17-20 (Death)	S Muqeem (3.33 / 3.3 / 6.0)	S Ayub (7.00 / 14.0 / 12.0)

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Some things of note:

- Salman Mirza has had best impact in powerplay.
- S Afridi and Abrar we know are capable but have looked a little off color.
- Muqeem and Nawaz have been brilliant in middle overs.
- Rauf and Abbas are your best death bowlers (Wasim Jr hasn't played Intl T20Is this year yet).
- Saim is more than a useful part-timer in this format (Key is to use him right).

@shariqnoor

 

[Nikhil_cric]

It's still 5 matches, which is not a big sample-size. Rizwan had a SR of 117 last year across 21 T20I matches.

Strike rate of 117 over his last 37 matches actually

Batting records | Twenty20 Internationals | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com

stats.espncricinfo.com

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Strike rate of 117 over his last 37 matches actually

Batting records | Twenty20 Internationals | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com

stats.espncricinfo.com

That's a remarkable level of consistency when it comes to not scoring quickly

 

[Nikhil_cric]

That's a remarkable level of consistency when it comes to not scoring quickly

Even at his peak, he was striking at about 129 which was just about acceptable back then.

But across those last 37 matches he has struggled and 117 strike rate is just not good enough over a sample size that large.

Should focus on his form in the longer formats.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Even at his peak, he was striking at about 129 which was just about acceptable back then.

But across those last 37 matches he has struggled and 117 strike rate is just not good enough over a sample size that large.

Should focus on his form in the longer formats.

WIcket keeper batsmen are generally expected to be explosive. Buttler, De Kock, Pooran, Seifert, Klaasen, Inglis . MSD is one of the worst advt for T20. Even he had a strike rate of 141 in the last 43 matches.

Last 10 year wicket keeper against main teams with a strike rate of 140 plus. Samson 170, Salt 170. Inglis 162

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Even at his peak, he was striking at about 129 which was just about acceptable back then.

But across those last 37 matches he has struggled and 117 strike rate is just not good enough over a sample size that large.

Should focus on his form in the longer formats.

Yes he has regressed considerably and the game has moved forward very rapidly since the 2022 T20 World Cup. In that tournament you had a number of teams playing this type of 160-170 cricket, including India. England may have been the only team that was playing T20 cricket like it's supposed to be played. Since then, every major team has moved forward at a breakneck pace but Pakistan until recently still seemed stuck in the past.

 

[Mamoon]

@RidiculousMan

please update this thread now

But but but….we have turned a corner.

 

[Obaidd]

t20 Skipper watch:
Alrounder turned specialist captain turned no. 4 batsman Agha’s recently been bowling less and less.

In the current series so far he has bowled a single over. Is agha now becoming a specialist batsman?

 

[BouncerGuy]

t20 Skipper watch:
Alrounder turned specialist captain turned no. 4 batsman Agha’s recently been bowling less and less.

In the current series so far he has bowled a single over. Is agha now becoming a specialist batsman?

I think there are not many lefties in the Afghanistan team, that is why he chose not to... But TBH, he should bowl 1 or 2 for sure.

 

[RidiculousMan]

@RidiculousMan

please update this thread now

But but but….we have turned a corner.

I will update after this series. It is just for tracking individual performances.

I didn't knew you were a petty little man that waits for a slip up moment and like a child comes boo yah

 

[Mamoon]

I will update after this series. It is just for tracking individual performances.

I didn't knew you were a petty little man that waits for a slip up moment and like a child comes boo yah

Please get you stats ready. We have truly turned a corner

 

[RidiculousMan]

Please get you stats ready. We have truly turned a corner

What does that phrase even mean?

 

[RidiculousMan]

Please get you stats ready. We have truly turned a corner

It's not my stats. It's team stats. To track performances. If you don't like it. You don't have to follow the team.

Now I would appreciate if you won't tag me for childish comments like these

 

[Mamoon]

What does that phrase even mean?

You would know. You were the one who used it for this garbage team based on one series

I can’t explain your delusions for you. Not sure why you are asking me.

 

[RidiculousMan]

You would know. You were the one who used it for this garbage team based on one series

I can’t explain your delusions for you. Not sure why you are asking me.

When did I used it?

 

[RidiculousMan]

I can’t explain your delusions for you. Not sure why you are asking me.

You're the one who is commenting like a child. Have some sense and decency to explain.

If you have a problem with with team. Contact PCB. Knock their door. Do not talk like a child in front of me.

I have been talking to you decently ad a courtesy for being an old member on the forum and would appreciate if you can return the favor like one.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Some stats from Tri Series. Between 29 August, 2025 till date.

Top 10 - Most Runs


Top 10 - Most Wickets

 

[Obaidd]

t20 Skipper watch:
Alrounder turned specialist captain turned no. 4 batsman Agha’s recently been bowling less and less.

In the current series so far he has bowled a single over. Is agha now becoming a specialist batsman?

Skipper still not bowling much.
Moved himself down the order as well.

So not an all-rounder and not a very good t20 batter. Agha may become a specialist captain like sarfaraz.

 

[Obaidd]

Skipper still not bowling much.
Moved himself down the order as well.

So not an all-rounder and not a very good t20 batter. Agha may become a specialist captain like sarfaraz.

T20 skipper watch
-still not bowling
-atrocious batting
-captaincy not good enough

 

[Mamoon]

@RidiculousMan

Please update the states after the attacking masterclass vs UAE.

But but we have turned a former. But but new intent and modern cricket. But but Babar was dropped for slow batting so that his replacement can bat at a SR of 87.

 

[Rana]

T20 skipper watch
-still not bowling
-atrocious batting
-captaincy not good enough

He’s won 12 of his last 16 games for Pakistan

 

[deep82]

He’s won 12 of his last 16 games for Pakistan

Give anyone consecutive matches vs BD, AFG, UAE, WI, OMAN and can have more or less similar record. Nothing to be proud of.

4-2 vs BD
2-1 vs WI
2-1 vs AFG so far
0-1 vs IND so far
3-0 vs UAE
1-0 vs OMAN

Total 17
Won 12
Loss 5

Don't like Babar or Rizwan but they will have similar record if such schedule are provided to them.

 

[Rana]

Don't like Babar or Rizwan but they will have similar record if such schedule are provided to them

Rubbish

Babar and Rizwan will lose 2-1 at home to the Bangladesh side that toured

They would lose all 3 matches to Afghanistan in the tri series

They would definitely lose 2-1 if not 3-0 to West Indies

They would most certainly lose one of the two games to Oman and UAE.


You don’t know the hell we have escaped from! You have no idea about how seriously bad they dragged this team down!

 

[Rana]

Maut Qabool hai Ghalib

Lekin Babar aur Rizwan ki ghatiya T20 cricket qabool nahi!

 

[deep82]

Rubbish

Babar and Rizwan will lose 2-1 at home to the Bangladesh side that toured

They would lose all 3 matches to Afghanistan in the tri series

They would definitely lose 2-1 if not 3-0 to West Indies

They would most certainly lose one of the two games to Oman and UAE.


You don’t know the hell we have escaped from! You have no idea about how seriously bad they dragged this team down!

You are not making sense now. This is not about Babar or Rizwan or even Shadab as captain.

Pakistan have mostly won their recent matches against minnows and against BD, AFG, WI on the strength of their bowling.
Battingwise, they are still mostly scoring in the range of 140-160 and since the minnow/lower ranked teams doesn't have sustained good batters, they have been able to squeeze out wins.

Babar or Rizwan or Shadab would have similar record more or less becaue bowlers would have still got 140-160 totals to defend.

Attacking or defensive approach, the problem is still same for Pakistan- BATTING.

 

[Rana]

You are not making sense now. This is not about Babar or Rizwan or even Shadab as captain.

What? I’m not making sense after it’s you who claimed RizBar would have a similar record as Agha and Hesson if they played the same teams?

I won’t be making sense to you but to me, you don’t have a clue about what you saying in the first place.

 

[deep82]

What? I’m not making sense after it’s you who claimed RizBar would have a similar record as Agha and Hesson if they played the same teams?

I won’t be making sense to you but to me, you don’t have a clue about what you saying in the first place.

Yes, they would have similar records . Simple logic. The batting as a whole is delivering similar subpar totals.
Bowling is securing them wins so similar bowling will give wins under "anybody" captaincy.

Whats so hard to understand?

But, I agree with you one one point that Babar-Rizwan will not 100% work against Top 5 T20 SIDE ( SENA+India) but the current aggressive team can have some mild success on their day. But thats about it, Pakistan will still be a mid level team until fresh talents are discovered and thrown in the sytem.

 

[Rana]

Yes, they would have similar records . Simple logic

No they would not.

How do you know Babar and Rizwan do not completely unbalance the side for you to even reach a defendable total in the first place? Your speaking in hypotheticals

How do you know Shaheen would blast 30 off 10 under Babar and Rizwan as openers?

You had one clear example of RizBar in West Indies where they featured in the ODI side and failed for Pakistan whilst the T20 team got the job done without them.

The issue with RizBar is not only their slow batting but also the complete unbalancing of the side. They are a negative effect on the team.

 

[deep82]

No they would not.

How do you know Babar and Rizwan do not completely unbalance the side for you to even reach a defendable total in the first place? Your speaking in hypotheticals

How do you know Shaheen would blast 30 off 10 under Babar and Rizwan as openers?

You had one clear example of RizBar in West Indies where they featured in the ODI side and failed for Pakistan whilst the T20 team got the job done without them.

The issue with RizBar is not only their slow batting but also the complete unbalancing of the side. They are a negative effect on the team.

Not discussing about Babar-Rizwan brand of cricket or how they unbalance the team. But if you compare scores in Tri-series & Asia Cup, you can stratightaway see the batting scores even in power play & total are "not so different" from the previous era. They are mostly more or less same. So, you like the aggressive brand which "failed" in 3 consecutive matches in Asia Cup ( 160 vs Oman, 146 vs UAE)- Now don't give me lame excuse that it was enough to win aginst minnow.

The batting is under performing, big time. Bowling ( mostly Abrar, Saim, Nawaz) saved Pakistan multiple times in last few matches.

Shaheen example was funny. He was coming at No. 9, connected few blows, 300 strike rate. But then what it has to do anything with Babar-Rizwan??

 

[BouncerGuy]

Babar Azam's Test Strike Rate - 54

Salman Ali Agha's Asia Cup Strike Rate - 57

Intent wins again

 

[Rana]

Babar Azam's Test Strike Rate - 54

Salman Ali Agha's Asia Cup Strike Rate - 57

Intent wins again

Is Babar Azam willing to put the team first or his agency?

Are you purposely being ignorant?

 

[BouncerGuy]

Is Babar Azam willing to put the team first or his agency?

Are you purposely being ignorant?

talk about the stats bro,... AM i lying??? You are ignorent here... not me

 

[Rana]

talk about the stats bro,... AM i lying??? You are ignorent here... not me

No I think you are intentionally neglecting the issue with Babar and also Rizwan in the first place and why they were removed

Would Babar or Rizwan promote younger players and better openers ahead of themselves without having the United States broker it for them behind the scenes???

 

[mominsaigol]

talk about the stats bro,... AM i lying??? You are ignorent here... not me

I'm sick of this stats filtering.

Steve Smith pre WC 2023 had odi statistics of 48 Avg and 95 SR. For odi standards at no 3 that is terrific and although currently Steve smith is my favourite player everyone knew that he was washed up in odi from 2022 onwards.

In tests he isnt washed up but he has declined however he can still avg 50+ because his defensive technique is solid, and his understanding of the test gane is 2nd to none. He also has the likes of green, Webster, Travis to attack for him while he can score his 190 ball 100 in test.

In odi it was dead set clear he has loat his ability to play aggressive cricket, yet Australia took him due to seniority respect.

That led to Australia being forced to play with 10 players rather then 11. Aus won 2023 but Steve Smith did zilch and was mostly a walking wicket. Even if stats at the time showed otherwise. As of retirement he left with 43 avg and 87 sr.

Babar may have an avg of 39, Sri of 129 and 3 t20 centuries but I think you are forgetting 3 years ago it was an avg of 49, Sr of 133.

^^ For god sakes look at this metric. Babar azam from 2022 to 2024 has consistently avg lower 30's with a sr of 100-110. His avg vs Minnows causes it to be 30-33. His avg against top teams is terrible.

He however on current form is still better then current Saim Ayub atm. That is fair.

 

[mominsaigol]

I'm sick of this stats filtering.

Steve Smith pre WC 2023 had odi statistics of 48 Avg and 95 SR. For odi standards at no 3 that is terrific and although currently Steve smith is my favourite player everyone knew that he was washed up in odi from 2022 onwards.

In tests he isnt washed up but he has declined however he can still avg 50+ because his defensive technique is solid, and his understanding of the test gane is 2nd to none. He also has the likes of green, Webster, Travis to attack for him while he can score his 190 ball 100 in test.

In odi it was dead set clear he has loat his ability to play aggressive cricket, yet Australia took him due to seniority respect.

That led to Australia being forced to play with 10 players rather then 11. Aus won 2023 but Steve Smith did zilch and was mostly a walking wicket. Even if stats at the time showed otherwise. As of retirement he left with 43 avg and 87 sr.

Babar may have an avg of 39, Sri of 129 and 3 t20 centuries but I think you are forgetting 3 years ago it was an avg of 49, Sr of 133.

^^ For god sakes look at this metric. Babar azam from 2022 to 2024 has consistently avg lower 30's with a sr of 100-110. His avg vs Minnows causes it to be 30-33. His avg against top teams is terrible.

He however on current form is still better then current Saim Ayub atm. That is fair.

People are also forgetting why Farhan is in the team over Babar.

They both played PSL against the sane attacks and same bowlers at the same opening position.

Farhan destroyed him. Babar had a horrible PSL with onpy one innings of 94 of 50 being his saving grace.

If Farhan outperformed babar on the same pitch vs the same bowlers, their is no reason t9 assume babar would do better in dubai which is a significantly harder pitch.

In psl it was clear that form wise it was Farhan > Babar > Saim based of performances.

Based of what are people assuming Babar would perform better in UAE?

Total braindead hogwash.

 

[Devadwal]

Babar Azam's Test Strike Rate - 54

Salman Ali Agha's Asia Cup Strike Rate - 57

Intent wins again

For Salman Agha's statistics, strike rate does not matter, what matters is team man, intent merchant etc.

 

[BouncerGuy]

For Salman Agha's statistics, strike rate does not matter, what matters is team man, intent merchant etc.

Yes... Intent goes under dust when it comes to salman