No one expects Pak to win against India with or without Rizbar. 8 out 10 times india will win with current talent pool. But they have looked terrible against others. Just look at their stats and how they look when they bat. None of the top order bars will go into any top team with those stats. Even Saim seems outright mediocre. Agha, Farhan, Khushdil etc won't in any other international team apart from may be BD or similar teams. Pakistan has better legacy, setup, ability and pidegree than these batsman.