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I have it on very good authority from several sources that there is an influential lobby within and close to Pakistan cricket who are very keen to sideline Mohammad Rizwan and get Sarfraz Ahmed back as the first choice pick as wicket-keeper/batsman.

Mohammad Rizwan has done a bit too well since his introduction to international cricket, particularly of late for some and has taken his chance too well for them.

In Pakistan cricket you have to remember that senior players have their own lobby that back them and that's why it's very difficult to get rid of them even towards the end of their careers.

This will be interesting to see how this goes in the coming weeks and months.
 
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Comical, given that Rizwan is the best keeper-batsman in the world, by far.

Admittedly I would play him as a specialist batsman, in the Top Four. But then my Test keeper would be Rohail Nazir, because he can bat in the Top Six, which Sarfraz cannot.
 
I don't get it. How the hell do the rubbish players like Sarfraz or Shoaib Malik have such big lobbies?
 
This can't be real. wow...
Didnt expect it from Sarfraz considering he was the one people lobbied against back in 2015. You live long enough to see yourself become the villian I guess.
 
It has been obvious for a long time. It is the only justification for why Pakistan keeps carrying the dead body of Sarfraz in every series.

It all depends on Babar. He is not only the captain but also the biggest star in the country, and has enough leverage to ensure that this pro-Sarfraz lobby does not win in the end.

If he stands his ground nothing will happen, but he is a weak character and the way Sarfraz took the gloves from Rizwan in the third ODI was not a good sign at all.
 
Only in Pakistan a washed up cricketer like Sarfraz gets to replace an emerging very good wk batsman.

For those people who need proofs, search Sikandar Bakht and Geo panel's support for Sarfraz and hate for Rizwan.
 
It has been obvious for a long time. It is the only justification for why Pakistan keeps carrying the dead body of Sarfraz in every series.

It all depends on Babar. He is not only the captain but also the biggest star in the country, and has enough leverage to ensure that this pro-Sarfraz lobby does not win in the end.

If he stands his ground nothing will happen, but he is a weak character and the way Sarfraz took the gloves from Rizwan in the third ODI was not a good sign at all.

I don't think Babar himself know how much he is worth. He's naive too
 
It has been obvious for a long time. It is the only justification for why Pakistan keeps carrying the dead body of Sarfraz in every series.

It all depends on Babar. He is not only the captain but also the biggest star in the country, and has enough leverage to ensure that this pro-Sarfraz lobby does not win in the end.

If he stands his ground nothing will happen, but he is a weak character and the way Sarfraz took the gloves from Rizwan in the third ODI was not a good sign at all.

This is not just a lobby but a whole mafia. It is too much for someone like Baber to fight against them.
 
This is just pathetic . Sarfaraz plays his first match for Pakistan in nearly two years due to injuries and the rumour mill starts. Where was this lobby when he was warming the bench for all this time .

On a side note whilst Rizwan is a shoe in for the test team and t20 teams , he still needs to establish his spot in the one day line up .

He had a poor series with the bat , and now averages 29.
 
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Only a stable and experienced captain can take on these leeches. Baber needs time. But I am sure they will be thinking to overthrow his captaincy and involve him into scandals because he is too good player to be ignored on performances.
 
Problem with such pathetic lobbies and people who carry their agendas is that they don't want Pakistan to do well or care about Pakistan but they care about these pathetic cricketers who do not deserve to be there where they want them to be. Classsic example is Sarfraz vs Rizwan. It was Kamran vs Sarfraz before. I have seen this so long that now I know how this game works.
 
This is just pathetic . Sarfaraz plays his first match for Pakistan in nearly two years due to injuries and the rumour mill starts. Where was this lobby when he was warming the bench for all this time .

On a side note whilst Rizwan is a shoe in for the test team and t20 teams , he still needs to establish his spot in the one day line up .

He had a poor series with the bat , and now averages 29.
Do you know how much Sarfraz had average in 3 years to be shown the door?
 
I have always wondered what these 'influential lobbies' gain from supporting a particular player. It is clear that certain people in the media have been making a lot of noise in support of Sarfaraz but even if comes back at the cost of Rizwan what will these people gain from it?
 
Pakistan looked better team with Sarfraz behind the stumps.Bowlers respond to him better.Even Fakhar said that it was Sarfaraz idea to go onslaught in second ODI.
 
Its time to move on from Sarfaraz , and start giving Rohail Nazir some opportunities , a game here and then along with Rizwan. Rest Rizwan in some games and bring in Rohail.

Sarfaraz is past his prime.
 
Must be the media belonging to a certain geographical area of Pakistan.

They have been a thorn in the path of Pakistan cricket for decades!
 
Pakistan looked better team with Sarfraz behind the stumps.Bowlers respond to him better.Even Fakhar said that it was Sarfaraz idea to go onslaught in second ODI.

It does not matter , if you look into pro and con , cons are too many when playing Sarfaraz.
 
I have always wondered what these 'influential lobbies' gain from supporting a particular player. It is clear that certain people in the media have been making a lot of noise in support of Sarfaraz but even if comes back at the cost of Rizwan what will these people gain from it?

Lots of inside info and further strengthening of their agendas if you know what I am talking about.
 
These people do not care about cricket but they care about politics. It's not about good cricketers rather good cricketers from where?
 
Sarfaraz vs. Rizwan is a useless comparison. Anyone with a functional brain would understand that Rizwan is the superior batsman, based on technique, performances, domestic averages, and also general game awareness. He has taken quite a few blinders as a wicket keeper, and there is no doubt that he is our finest wicket-keeper batsman.

Sarfaraz on the other hand had his opportunity with the side, and for so many years, he was someone who had the ability to be a reliable batsman in the top 4, but for some reason, he didn't foster that ability into anything tangible. This is mostly because Sarfaraz, who could have been a reliable opening option, hid himself at the back-end of the batting lineup, sometimes even sending the bowlers ahead of him. His stats as a wicket-keeper batsman are okay, at best he's going to average in the high 30s and won't be consistent.

I'll say this once, Rizwan in test cricket is far, far, far superior than Sarfaraz. He is genuinely a capable batsman, who bats with intelligence and grit, and in a short test career, he has already shown much more technical ability and resilience than Sarfaraz. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to start thinking with a factual sense rather than being guided by their own opinions.

As a non-biased opinion, both are equals in ODI cricket with the chances they've been provided. Both are averaging in the low 30s, and haven't contributed much to the team in ODI cricket. Given that Rizwan's test form was quite mediocre before he made a comeback, I think it's fair to say that Rizwan should be given at least another series before we look for other options, because it could take some time for him to convert his form into ODI cricket.

In T20 cricket, a comparison is quite arbitrary and senseless, one bats at the top and was the leading run-scorer in the PSL whereas the other bats in the middle order and performed decently. Rizwan is again the choice for T20s.

But what exactly are the limitations of Rizwan? In his short career since the comeback, he has shown great batting temperament in test cricket, and is a genuine fighter for the team. In white-ball cricket, I think he's lacking the middle gear. In T20s, he can go full blast and try to bash whatever he can to the boundary, but in ODI cricket, he's not finding it easy to negotiate the excessive dot deliveries that he's playing. I think this is because of his play-style, he either needs enough time to get set, or he needs very little time to start hammering the opposition around.

Playing Rizwan in the middle order is a mistake in my opinion, because it's quite clear that he's being pressured into a role he doesn't know how to do properly. He can negotiate the new ball, and has a good technique to bat up top, so I think he should bat in that position as opposed to the middle order.

The bigger question becomes whether or not we can remove one of Imam and Fakhar, and I unfortunately don't know how to answer that given the performances of both in the SAF series.

As for the influential body, this is basically what holds Pakistan Cricket down. People who believe in players being "lucky charms" and other nonsense need to get their heads set straight. Perhaps the only thing Sarfaraz did of note was tell the bowlers where to bowl, and it's difficult to know how much this helps, so I can't make a judgement on it yet. As a player, he's being supportive to the bowlers and as a spectator, that is appreciated, but as far as replacing Rizwan goes, I think we need to consider a few more options before returning to Sarfaraz. I think now is a good time to introduce Rohail Nazir, perhaps a touch of youth can end this debate.

I'd personally give Rizwan 5-6 more ODI games to see what he can do in the middle order.

If he can't perform, I'd replace him with Rohail Nazir first.

A slightly different way of thinking could be to give Imam-ul-Haq the gloves, and train him to be a keeper. If not, then I don't really see many options left to try. I wouldn't go down the road of bringing Azam Khan into the team.

Maybe Umar Akmal as keeper (sarcasm)?
 
Do you know how much Sarfraz had average in 3 years to be shown the door?

I am glad sarfaraz was removed from the team, as his performances had regressed at the time he was dropped .

Have no issues with Rizwan being in the team and he deserves a good run as he waited patiently for his chance .

But I personally don’t think their is a lobby to get sarfaraz back , he just happened to play one game , which he may have done anyway due to squad rotation at some point .

We must not confuse formats though and whilst Rizwan has been in supreme form in t20s and tests he has not done that as yet in the one day team. I am just merely pointing out a fact . He should get a good run to cement his place
 
Can I pay subscription fees to this influential lobby?
 
The gap between the 2 is too big for anyone with any credibility to make a stupid decision like that. I am all for SA to be in the squad because he is still the 2nd best WK/batsman in PK and his presence will make Riz work harder but even today Riz is on a different level. I hope it's not Babar because the goodwill built up will disappear quickly if he is seen to be an idiot making stupid decisions. I will be surprised its Misbah as he is the one that picked Riz.
 
Rizwan is one of the few names who are/should be guaranteed a spot in all elevens.
Sarfraz simply doesn't merit selection atleast in Tests and t20is.
 
I might not be Rizwan's biggest fan but you can't just drop a guy or sideline someone who has performed for us in England, NZ and in the last series versus South Africa.

Can't just boot him out.
 
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Rizwan is one of the few names who are/should be guaranteed a spot in all elevens.
Sarfraz simply doesn't merit selection atleast in Tests and t20is.

Yep, adding Sarfraz in the last game was comical from management, I hope M. Wasim pick Rohail Nazir over Sarfraz or Azam Khan.
 
That is where PCB never solved the problem, which BCCI and other decent boards were able to do.. In India no body complains because they play so much international cricket year round, that even if they are dropped from 1/2 series, they always know they would come back in the next one, when other might get injured or needed rest...

You have to have different players playing different formats..
If Pakistan team plays :
13+ test matches,
30+ ODIs
20+ T20I

you play every year (except COVID thing) , and swiftly allow players to play in any 3+ leagues per year.. then no player will ever complain, or no need for these lobbies to get activated... However, if you play handful of games in an year , then players and their associates would go to any extent to get them on the team
 
Only way for SA to get back into this thing is if Rizwan falls off a cliff.

If there is an iota of truth to the ‘lobby’ then this should be the final test of BA’s writ as captain.

No clue why he cannot grow a spine and hammer his point home. Unless of course he subscribes to the notion of SA’s inclusion.

PCB do not normally have captains who have the support of the public to rally against the system. BA is one of the few captains who does have this support and can easily put PCB on notice. Now would be a good time to have the lines chalked out, as opposed to when his / team’s performances are on the downward spiral and he has relinquished leverage.
 
Rizwan should be first choice, I knew there was something fishy going on with rizwan recalled.
 
Rizwan’s performances are what’s keeping him in the team if this is true. Any prolonged dip in form and he’ll be gone. Might even see Sarfaraz
create a camp of players on his side. It’s Pakistani cricket at its best.
 
I just dont get it. Where was this "influential lobby" when Fawad Alam was kept out of the side for so long, or guys like Asim kamal were neglected in the past? how does this prop up when the career of a mediocre player is on the line?

I have been a Saifi fan and i thought he was needlessly removed from all formats, but getting him back now while sacrificing Rizzy is even worse.

And guys who are saying its only the Karachi lobby or something, Pakistan cricket is always infested by these lobbyists. That is the reason people like Afridi, malik and akmals had a long career with the team so its just not a karachi thing only, its our collective culture.
 
Sarfaraz is a decent player but I felt he has a really bad attitude. Not in a crooked sense but how he ridicules/abuses his bowlers and fielders during the game is despicable and merits his exclusion. He lacks any credible leadership qualities and a senior guy like that when in squad demotivates others through their false leadership and lack of emotional balance.
 
This is outrageous and a little surprising to be honest. To me, sarfraz doesn't come across as someone who'd rally support of a lobby.

I guess onus is on the captain in such a scenario - he needs to do what is best for the team and in this case, Rizwan gets picked over Sarfraz any day. Babar needs to show some spine here, I hope he isn't content as long he's scoring runs, because as a captain, you've got a bigger responsibility than taking care of your individual performance
 
At this point this is the only thing that can explain him being in the squad.

Because I can't recall the last time someone failed so consistently and for such a long time and still managed to make the squad.
 
I knew this would happen.

Seemed like the instructions were to play Sarfaraz at all costs - No one really cares about Rizwan it seems.

No player or professional wants to be sidelined from their duties in this way.

PCB really need to take a good look at themselves.
 
Going forward, Rizwan's major headache will be Azam Khan. He is significantly more talented than both Sarfaraz and Rizwan (atleast in LOIs) and will be backed by the same lobby that is currently backing Sarfaraz.
 
No chance. Babar is #TeamAutoPilot

They love Rizwan

I'm sure Babar is part of this lobby, if not being this lobby himself.

Several journalists reported that for home series against South Africa, MW wanted to select Rohail Nazir as back-up keeper, but Babar insisted on Sarfraz.

MW in a recent youtube interview also said that home series squad against South Africa was selected 100% with agreement with the captain & coach. (He added that squad for the current tour was also with agreements, but there are debates over selections everywhere and we also debates over three squads).
 
This same lobby thing happens in India as well , maybe to a lighter extent. Unless some of your premium talents give up the game or move to UAE, Canada , UK to play for those teams, followed by public outcry, the mafias won't give a damn.
 
Can I pay subscription fees to this influential lobby?

What’s your problem with Rizwan?

It’s really strange that you want our second best batsmen, best current keeper and one of the most down to earth and humble guys in our whole setup to fail or just be disregarded and replaced with a player who isn’t half the batsmen he is and has shown to only be motivated in proving himself when his place in the team is on the line.
 
Not a big concern.

Thankfully, sarfraz ahmed is not performing and i doubt he will ever perform. Terrible batsmen.

Really pathetic from the karachi base to be promoting a player who sucks as a batsmen.

Misbaj will hopefully never play sarfraz at front. Even during misbahs captaincy, moin khan was msde coach and manager who kept on forcing misbah to play this despicable cricketer. Adnan akmal's test career was destroyed because of moin khan and sarfraz ahmed

Misbah has done the right thing by promoting rizwan who has also provided performance.

The advantage of sarfraz being supported by the lobby is that he will keep on performing terribly based on the one chance he will keep on getting in every series. He will keep on losing his avg and the criticism will only increase.

Look at the way he made his psl team into a joke.

Sarfraz isnt going to score runs, and rizwan will have misbahs backing if he is performing. Misbah even converted rizwan into a t20 player :)).

Sarfraz should carry on the water boy duties for which he is added in the team. If he has issues than he could sit at home as Pakistan has the option of rohail nazir in near future.

This lobby is a non issue for now. However, if moin khan becomes coach or team manager, than pakistan crickrt is doomed
 
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Man I really hope not. I'm a massive Rizwan fan. I'm disappointed he flopped in the SA ODIs - was looking forward to watching him play again after his exploits at home.

I have a soft spot for Sarfy but, where a comparison with Rizwan is concerned, there's no contest.
 
Pakistan looked better team with Sarfraz behind the stumps.Bowlers respond to him better.Even Fakhar said that it was Sarfaraz idea to go onslaught in second ODI.

No it wasnt.
Fakhar said he asked waterboy sarfraz to ask babar for permission.

Also, just because you shout stupid one liners like shabash bhoot khoob, kya baat hai, doesnt mean zilch for bowlers

If it does make a difference, than kamran akmal is probably the biggest motivational speaker for bowlers. Might as well invite him to my uni as a motovationla guest speaker
 
I think this time the so called lobby will fail because sarfi will probably not get many games. My issue is he shouldnt have been treated the way he was but now that we have rizwan who is much better sarfi needs to think about his career going forward. i would retire from test cricket and start playing white ball leagues if I can get in. He's still decent enough to manage that.

However going forward Rizwan and Rohail should be our two main keepers. Azam Khan should come nowhere near a Pakistani green until he loses the fat off his body and becomes an athlete. He's an embarrassment to the nation at the moment.
 
The lobby seems like babar and some of the players in my opinion, you could just see how most surrounded him when he took a simple catch the other day, hugging and shouting for him like he was still our "Kaptaan" .

I think on the otherhand you have hafeez amir who want nothing to do with this lobby and as such have fallen out with the dressing room.
 
No it wasnt.
Fakhar said he asked waterboy sarfraz to ask babar for permission.

Also, just because you shout stupid one liners like shabash bhoot khoob, kya baat hai, doesnt mean zilch for bowlers

If it does make a difference, than kamran akmal is probably the biggest motivational speaker for bowlers. Might as well invite him to my uni as a motovationla guest speaker

Doesn’t Sarfaraz face criticism for giving bowlers too many instructions and micromanaging them? This may not always be a good thing but he says way more than just “Shahbash”, which is one of the reason why people find him controlling. I think he would get way less stick if he just stuck to random one-liners like most keepers.
 
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How does that guy with such atrocious behaviour have any friends, leave alone a lobby?

Rizwan is clearly the superior batsman and glovesman. Vice captained decently well in New Zealand too.
 
How did Sarfaraz get so powerful in such a short span?
He was mediocre and in and out of the side for a long time, had a bit of purple patch for 1-2 years and apart he has been average at best . on the other hand Rizwan is potentially world class, can average ~50 and win a lot of matches for Pakistan next 6-8 years of his career.
 
The lobby seems like babar and some of the players in my opinion, you could just see how most surrounded him when he took a simple catch the other day, hugging and shouting for him like he was still our "Kaptaan" .

I think on the otherhand you have hafeez amir who want nothing to do with this lobby and as such have fallen out with the dressing room.

yeah that was very odd .Sarfraz was acting as though he won the series for Pakistan with that catch
 
Yep, adding Sarfraz in the last game was comical from management, I hope M. Wasim pick Rohail Nazir over Sarfraz or Azam Khan.

Well the first thing the influential lobby can do is get its players fit and ban their daily plateful of Biryani look at the state of sharjeel ,azam and sarfraz(his teeth as well) defo been on the paan gutka.
Get them fit and not with flabby belly before pointing out discrimination of Karachi players.
Their star young batsmen tore his muscle in the nets because of his ridiculous fitness conditioning and yet they keep blaming a bias from punjab .
 
How did Sarfaraz get so powerful in such a short span?
He was mediocre and in and out of the side for a long time, had a bit of purple patch for 1-2 years and apart he has been average at best . on the other hand Rizwan is potentially world class, can average ~50 and win a lot of matches for Pakistan next 6-8 years of his career.

Our players are the only players in the world who grow in stature the longer they are left out of the team.
 
Rumors are that there were good amounts of arguments on playing Sarfraz a day before. Not polite arguments if rumors is to be believed.


So who wanted Sarfraz in and who was against him?:13
 
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Shameful stuff from the Karachi mafia and Karachi media. People are afraid to call them out due of the fear of being called racist but they need to be called out.
 
If I was Rizwan, I will take this as a challenge and outscore Babar, become a one of the best batsman in the team and eventually a captain in a year or two... He is a bigger star than Babar, he needs to realize it.
 
Countdown to Sarfaraz replacing Babar as captain after few defeats
 
Rizwan's confidence is necessary for stability in Pakistan's middle order. He has played many rescue knocks.

It's playing with fire if they put doubts in his head.
 
Give Rizwan a couple of years and he will have a lobby of his own. It's pretty natural in Pakistan cricket that whenever an older guy is being replaced, the new guy bears the brunt of back door lobbying. Nothing to worry about for Rizwan. He will continue to get his chance with Misbah and Wasim. The only thing Rizwan needs is mental strength to just keep focusing on his own performance. If he does that, the day will not be far where he will have an influential lobby of his own.
 
Thats why I dont see Pak cricket going anywhere, it is so freaking corrupt! The whole system is based on lobbies & not performance. Dont see that happening in any other major cricketing country.
 
This lobby will fail. Rizwan is miles ahead, he has earned his place. I just wish we could expose these lobbies for who they really are. Sarfraz is still the second best WK option if Rizwan was to get injured, so I can understand carrying him with the team but his presence should not undermine Rizwan because of seniority..its just not right..in 6-8 months..one of Rohail Nazir, Mohammad Haris or Azam Khan should be groomed to take the backup WK spot and Sarfraz should be respectfully sidelined to franchise/domestic cricket with a nice Thank you for your service.
 
Well the first thing the influential lobby can do is get its players fit and ban their daily plateful of Biryani look at the state of sharjeel ,azam and sarfraz(his teeth as well) defo been on the paan gutka.
Get them fit and not with flabby belly before pointing out discrimination of Karachi players.
Their star young batsmen tore his muscle in the nets because of his ridiculous fitness conditioning and yet they keep blaming a bias from punjab .

I call rubbish on this, Rizwan has been a regular performer in all formats and i'd take him over Sarfraz any day, month, week or year lol.
 
Thats why I dont see Pak cricket going anywhere, it is so freaking corrupt! The whole system is based on lobbies & not performance. Dont see that happening in any other major cricketing country.

The saddest part is imagining what might have been with that team if these lobbies didn't exist in the 90's.
 
Shameful stuff from the Karachi mafia and Karachi media. People are afraid to call them out due of the fear of being called racist but they need to be called out.

Its all about selfish interests, doubt the mafia cares about Karachi either. They hardly back the talented performers from Karachi such as Saud and Saad.
 
How is this a controversy? Mohammad Rizwan is the better wicketkeeper batsman in all three formats. Sarfaraz is a good backup until Rohail Nazir surpasses him.

There's no reason why Sarfaraz can't perform the duties of a backup wicketkeeper in case Rizwan gets injured or needs a break.
 
Strange lobby allowed Rizwan to open in T20s to get maximum chances.
Lobby was not able to let Sarfraz play in Odis since 2019 till now .
What a weak lobby

Its not a weak lobby they have been using their media to constantly attack rizwan and question his place in the team whenever there is a dip in form or he has a bad game.

They were quiet for a bit because rizwan was in a purple patch in particular his test form.

It all got ugly wheb hafeez praised him and got in a twitter war with sarfraz ahmed.

And nows he's back behind the stumps and People are questioning rizwan place in the team

Sarfraz should never have been given the gloves because rizwan is a superior wicketkeeper.

If sarfraz was gonna be played as a batsmen then he should replace danish and asif ali but the problem is he is just as rubbish if not worse than them and would be liability in the field as well.
 
Sarfraz has won two ICC tournaments for Pakistan. He should be given some respect. No doubt Rizwan has done good recently but still my first choice would be Sarfraz. Rizwan can still play as batsman.
 
Wasim is another clueless selector with knack of trying to be fancy.

We've beaten South Africa in tests, t20s at home and now just beaten them at home in the ODIs. He's doing a pretty good job as far as I'm concerned.

Our other selectors looked like they slept in the office and did everything with a "yes sir" attitude.
 
Its all about selfish interests, doubt the mafia cares about Karachi either. They hardly back the talented performers from Karachi such as Saud and Saad.

Exactly, this is the thing that this “Karachi lobby” crowd doesn’t understand. If a Karachi lobby existed, would Fawad Alam, Asim Kamal and Tabish have rotted way in domestic cricket? Would Saad Ali be ignored if this lobby was a thing?

If a lobby is backing Sarfaraz it’s probably because of media support or connections and nothing to do with the region. The media that backs Sarfaraz also back Amir, this has nothing to do with regions.
 
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Btw here i would blame misbah and babar azam
If as coach and captain they cant stop this politics than really youhave to question their authority.

Ok let sarfraz play but after looking at the views of posters regarding the gloves i have changed my opinion and agree that the gloves should not had been taken from rizwan
 
Who are the members of this lobby? They should be publicly called out & any monetary benefits angle should be probed.
 
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