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The price here in India is 40% more than in the US market. This is insane. And still the isheep would buy it.
I am going to buy it next month for gift to Mrs CC. I know it is overpriced but that makes is valuable as a gift.
That's different, you want to make bhabiji happy. That's fine. But I'm pretty sure you won't prefer it over Samsung Galaxy Note 8 unless it is meant to be flaunted as a status symbol. I mean there's no logic in paying 40% more than it's actual price in the US market.
Wouldn't it make more sense to buy from the US sites of Ebay and Amazon and cut out that extra 40%?
I am going to buy it next month for gift to Mrs CC. I know it is overpriced but that makes is valuable as a gift.
That's different, you want to make bhabiji happy. That's fine. But I'm pretty sure you won't prefer it over Samsung Galaxy Note 8 unless it is meant to be flaunted as a status symbol. I mean there's no logic in paying 40% more than it's actual price in the US market.
Thats the point mainly, the iPhone is a status symbol for Indians . Most of the time we are rarely using any of the iOS/Apple services here . Apple music - very weak, Apple pay isn't available , the only thing that works in India is samsung pay and most samsung users (top models) don't even know it exists, because again, the S series is the next best status symbol after an Iphone.
I'm seeing far too many people at work (I work in IT by the way) who always upgrade to the latest Iphones without ever using Apple reminders, pages, Icloud drive , notes or any such feature of IOS. So think about how the average iPhone buyer (Rich kids , rich businessmen ) would be using them .
Its mainly a piece of jewellery to flaunt, like a Rolex or a gold chain .
But it has it's perks too, I bought an iphone 5s in 2016 for 20k Indian rupees, but everywhere I went people gave me the same level of attention as someone who'd have bought it for 50k plus when it came out ! You can't dream of getting that level of recognition on even a 1 year old Android flagship, and my phone was in its 4th year of production ! It automatically identifies you to a vast majority of people as 'look , this dude's rich !", and I'm kinda cool with that TBH. Especially if you've bought an Iphone after a price - cut.
What really, really gets on my nerve is that Apple is now trying it's best to milk every single drop of penny from the iSheeps. It doesn't even include the fast charging plug. After you buy that, you'll have to buy the cord for it again separately. As for wireless charging, can you guess the rumored price for the device? It's bloody $200.
Even more hilarious if you break your display or the back of the device. It's gonna burn a hole so big on your pocket, you'll regret ever buying the original device. And it's an extremely fragile piece. Cnet tried drop testing it to check it's durability the other day, and it's back cracked on the very first attempt after dropping it on the pavement from waist height. It's absolutely ridiculous.
This...one of my friend had an iphone 7 plus. The phone fell down and the screen was full of broken glass pieces. The showroom people told her that she will have to pay another 20 000rupees for a new screen.....
I was like wth? 1Lakh INR for a phone?
Thats the point mainly, the iPhone is a status symbol for Indians .
Maybe in the circles full of students or software coolies working for peanuts. Not in the circles I am part of, where your status symbol is decided by your farmhouse, your luxury cars and your business turnover.
Maybe in the circles full of students or software coolies working for peanuts. Not in the circles I am part of, where your status symbol is decided by your farmhouse, your luxury cars and your business turnover.
My brother bought it.
Sure if it feels nice and designed very well.
But honestly if you have an iPhone 7 it's not worth paying £1000 for it. The features it has doesn't warrant the price.
My brother bought it.
Sure if it feels nice and designed very well.
But honestly if you have an iPhone 7 it's not worth paying £1000 for it. The features it has doesn't warrant the price.
How is it in Pakistan?Lol India must be dirt poor where owning an iphone makes people think you're rich.
If you have the money then get it, but don't strut around saying it is the best phone out there because it isn't.
Its like a designer product, sure you can find a better suit than Armani with a little smaller price tag but then it won't have the Armani logo or prestige. Same situation here.
Armani suits don’t have logo....
How is it in Pakistan?
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I can only speak for America and over here it's a regular phone, I do think that Pakistan is a little wealthier than India so it might not be a luxury over there.
They went way overboard with the price this time.
I can only speak for America and over here it's a regular phone, I do think that Pakistan is a little wealthier than India so it might not be a luxury over there.
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HHH gave his shovel to Samsung to pedigree Apple for the 1,2,3.) Samsung tweeting with their shovels, what a burial
I can only speak for America and over here it's a regular phone, I do think that Pakistan is a little wealthier than India so it might not be a luxury over there.
Thats the point mainly, the iPhone is a status symbol for Indians
Samsung will never even be half the company Apple is.
You do realize Samsung doesn't just sell phones...
Lol, that's the point. Despite all the home products it still isn't a match for Apple. Samsung's best selling items are washing machines and microwaves and that will soon be taken over by LG.
Apple's brand power is evident in the premium people are willing to pay for "just another" iPhone and the long lines witnessed this weekend around the world. Apple also has a cash pile of $250 Billion..yes Billion. It can buy Samsung, LG, and anyone else who thinks of making a phone all at the same time. Samsung can't even buy out it's largest competitor in the space it's perceived the 'best' as.
Yet Apple still buys the screens for its Iphones from Samsung.
Game. Set. Match.
Mic drop
Darwaza os taraf hai
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Lol, that's the point. Despite all the home products it still isn't a match for Apple. Samsung's best selling items are washing machines and microwaves and that will soon be taken over by LG.
Apple's brand power is evident in the premium people are willing to pay for "just another" iPhone and the long lines witnessed this weekend around the world. Apple also has a cash pile of $250 Billion..yes Billion. It can buy Samsung, LG, and anyone else who thinks of making a phone all at the same time. Samsung can't even buy out it's largest competitor in the space it's perceived the 'best' as.
I have an honest question - why do Android fans get a tummy ache every time a new iPhone is released? It is well and good that you are enlightened enough not to buy into the iPhone hype, but why do you get foam in your mouth because millions and millions of people around the world have a different opinion?
It's so simple because they think their phones are better and they can be right. But's that's the issue. The parameter has changed, specs are secondary and primary thing is experience. Apple is no. 1 as I wrote in my earlier post here.
So Samsung can advertise about it's greater specs, but it's irrelevant. No wonder Samsung is trying to copy the Genius Bar and staffs. It's the overall package and experience.
I totally agree with you, but I am trying to look at it from their perspective.
Even if their phones are better, who cares? It is not a competition, and having a better phone is not going to give you a competitive edge in this world. What have the Android users achieved in this world by being enlightened enough to not spend money on iPhones?
Regardless of which smartphone you have, you are still going to perform the same basic functions. It is a phone at the end of the day, and it is embarrassing to see how passionate Android users are over the internet, and how much pride they take over the choices that they make in terms of buying smartphones.
I used to find them humorous, but now I have started to feel bad for them.
This exact same argument can be applied to a segment of Apple users as well, though.
I totally agree with you, but I am trying to look at it from their perspective.
Even if their phones are better, who cares? It is not a competition, and having a better phone is not going to give you a competitive edge in this world. What have the Android users achieved in this world by being enlightened enough to not spend money on iPhones?
It's so simple because they think their phones are better and they can be right. But's that's the issue. The parameter has changed, specs are secondary and primary thing is experience. Apple is no. 1 as I wrote in my earlier post here.
So Samsung can advertise about it's greater specs, but it's irrelevant. No wonder Samsung is trying to copy the Genius Bar and staffs. It's the overall package and experience.
I need a place to vent because I have not been as priviledged as others when it comes to phones, and now that I got one 6 months ago it has been hell.
LG is the worst company to exist on this face of the planet. Life's grim should be their slogan. Got the LG Stylo 3 6 months back and had another LG phone before that (which was decent but wasn't a galaxy or IPhone level phone) and this Stylo thing lags and gets stuck like no tomorrow starting a month after I got it. I'm very particular and protective of my devices so as to not get scratches etc on them and I gave it protective screen, nice phone cover (transparent), a home, food on the table, try to maintain storage space, and it has been a massive POS and a let down.
Verizon (the big US phone provider) is yet another pain in the bum because the sell back value for this pathetic device is $22 but the monthly plan has you paying off $300 for this trash.
I don't care if you buy Apple or Samsung phones, please don't buy LG. Every social event where you want to snap or instagram anything will be a harrowing experience. At least it has taught me to live in the moment instead of video or take a picture of it.
Right now it is stuck on camera mode, I removed the battery after it wouldn't reset (have to do this every now and then), and it's still stuck on camera mode lmao, no battery or anything in it.
Maybe I have to go to some buzurgh at LG store because some virus has possessed it.
Because it's not logical. For every other electronic products, we make decisions based on specs, prices. But whenever it's phones, decisions are based on experience. It's strange, and thus Android fans have a hard time accepting it.
Thus, Apple is more successful with phones than computers. Their Macs with the branding of "superior" experience is way behind. Here the specs, price matters and basically value. But experience> value in phones.
Currently have an iPhone 6, so looking to upgrade around now.
Was hesitant with the iPhone X...If I am paying a premium for a phone, well, I kind of want it to be almost flawless, which the iPhone X didn't seem to be. Was unsure about FaceID, no home button, and that black tab at the top kind of obscures the screen.
Interesting to see what the feedback is from people who have bought it.
Have an S7 from work, so kind of want to avoid the Galaxy series.
Your experience hasn't been positive with the G7?
It's experience that counts nowadays, not technical specs, features etc. And nobody beats Apple iPhone in the overall user experience. Some call this experience as peace of mind, durability, great service etc. There are really many words to describe the overall fantastic experience of using iPhones.
People don't look for value, but rather experience of phones.
I bought a MacBook Pro in 2015 and it was one of the best decisions I have made. Two years one, it is still in pristine working condition and is by far the best laptop I have owned. However, my field of work doesn't need extensive use of computers etc. so compatibility isn't a problem.
Nonetheless, I do agree with you on the specs. I don't care about the features that I will never use, and I am very satisfied with the iPhone because it perfectly fulfills my needs.
Let's break down the experience part:
So there it is. I tried to remain as neutral as possible, even though I may have an underlying bias towards Androids specifically towards the Google Pixel 2 XL (which is going to be my next phone)
Experience isn't just about specs. You can give me a phone with better camera, but I prefer a iPhone due to its "superior" user experience.
I need a place to vent because I have not been as priviledged as others when it comes to phones, and now that I got one 6 months ago it has been hell.
LG is the worst company to exist on this face of the planet. Life's grim should be their slogan. Got the LG Stylo 3 6 months back and had another LG phone before that (which was decent but wasn't a galaxy or IPhone level phone) and this Stylo thing lags and gets stuck like no tomorrow starting a month after I got it. I'm very particular and protective of my devices so as to not get scratches etc on them and I gave it protective screen, nice phone cover (transparent), a home, food on the table, try to maintain storage space, and it has been a massive POS and a let down.
Verizon (the big US phone provider) is yet another pain in the bum because the sell back value for this pathetic device is $22 but the monthly plan has you paying off $300 for this trash.
I don't care if you buy Apple or Samsung phones, please don't buy LG. Every social event where you want to snap or instagram anything will be a harrowing experience. At least it has taught me to live in the moment instead of video or take a picture of it.
Right now it is stuck on camera mode, I removed the battery after it wouldn't reset (have to do this every now and then), and it's still stuck on camera mode lmao, no battery or anything in it.
Maybe I have to go to some buzurgh at LG store because some virus has possessed it.
Lolwhut?
Violates the law of conservation of energy there.
Sorry, S7.
How is it superior???
Care to explain?
After seeing my Note 3 and Note 4 die in less than a year, I've given up on Androids.
Maybe things are better now but I'll stick to Apple.
Died within a year? How?
Note 3 had a hardware malfunction which caused it to keep shutting on and off. I tried everything including changing batteries (3 times). Still don't know what happen.
Note 4 had this green screen pop up once and started heating up as time went on (3-4 weeks). After this, it simply died on me.
I took it in for repairs and the guy said it was impossible to repair. The phone was finished.
I walked to the Apple store and bought an iPhone (still going strong after a year or so).![]()
That's unfortunate. It would have been so much fun if those import taxes didn't swell up iPhone's cost here in India. I mean there's not a huge price gap between the Galaxy Note 8 and the iPhone X. It's because of import taxes that buyers in India end up having to fork out around 40% more money for the iPhone X. Same is the case with PS4. It has nothing to do with Apple or Sony. If it weren't the case, I myself would have preferred iPhone over any other android phone.
Which variant of iPhone do you use, period?
I bought a MacBook Pro in 2015 and it was one of the best decisions I have made.
Nonetheless, I do agree with you on the specs. I don't care about the features that I will never use, and I am very satisfied with the iPhone because it perfectly fulfills my needs.
It does, but the percentage of iPhone users who clench their teeth every time a new Android is released is negligible compared to the number of Android users who fly off the handle every time a new iPhone is released.
If anyone should be feeling bad for anyone it’s us feeling bad for you. You are happy to waste your money on a product that you yourself say do not use many of the features for and for perhaps 80% of the performance at best. I don’t care if people buy a Samsung TV or a Sony TV, that’s their choice. But what I would definitely do is look at all factors and make an informed decision based on the pros and cons of each product. Whichever way you look at it, an iPhone or a MacBook or even a MacPro is simply not the most effective solution for you. Time and again you’ve been caught out with your nonsense about what you like and what you want and time and again I’ve proven how you are wrong. You then revert to your feelings and “wants” rather than dealing with facts and figures.Even if their phones are better, who cares?
Regardless of which smartphone you have, you are still going to perform the same basic functions. It is a phone at the end of the day, and it is embarrassing to see how passionate Android users are over the internet, and how much pride they take over the choices that they make in terms of buying smartphones.
I used to find them humorous, but now I have started to feel bad for them.
Well I wasn’t going to reply to this thread but I saw a notification of you mentioning me in this thread so I had no option but to reply. You might think android users get worked up, but I think they’re more likely to laugh at how stupid apple users are for wasting their money. I’m far more sensible than the average apple user and I’m definitely more sensible than you. I look at what services are required, I then calculate my budget and then look to find the most cost effective (cheap) product on the market. At the moment I have a very ordinary Sony phone, which has proven to run very smoothly, touch wood and does what it needs to. I recently joined my new company as a Technical Lead and they have issued out iPhones. A lot of people were excited about the new phones. Within the first 3 days I received (via the tech support mailbox) over 50 complaints about the phone. Some of the complaints include having to press ok after entering the pin. Another is having to carry charge around because Apple aren’t using the same standard of USB charger. Perhaps the most telling one was from a HR Manager who asked if she could continue to use the old Nokia phone, she highlight her jump from Android to Windows Phones was never an issue, but the new iPhone is.I have an honest question - why do Android fans get a tummy ache every time a new iPhone is released? It is well and good that you are enlightened enough not to buy into the iPhone hype, but why do you get foam in your mouth because millions and millions of people around the world have a different opinion?
Our very own tech expert [MENTION=135003]bones[/MENTION] is a good example. You can see the steam coming out of his ears every time a new iPhone is released, and you can bet on him logging in through his Android phone to call iPhone users sheep year after year.
The fact that a phone of all things - and people's preference for that phone - is making lives miserable for so many people certainly sounds like a psychological problem to me.
I would say up until the Samsung Galaxy S7 phone, iphone probably was superior in one way at least. It was, and always has been, a premium phone. The iphone 6 was seriously beautiful. I really preferred the round fingerprint sensor over the one they have on Samsung, although I'm not sure that's there any more with the new X model. It was just a beautiful phone in both look and feel in the hand. But with the move towards larger phones, it no longer looks that much different to any other, especially since other brands are turning out premium phones as well. It then just comes down to features and whether you are tied in to Apple's (expensive) ecosystem, or if you roll with Google.
I feel otherwise , Apple lost it's lead around the Iphone 4-4s and 5 era, when everyone else , especially Samsung caught up in terms of hardware and performance, and camera too and HTC did great design. But with the Iphone 5S, apple surprised everyone by moving over to 64 bit processeors, which gave them huge performance advantages and cool new hardware like the Fingerprint sensor/Touch ID.
Apple has more or less maintained the performance lead till now, and absolutely annihilated competition with the new A11 processor. The camera is one area where apple has ceded the lead.
With the launch of the bigger screen PLUS models , apple solved the 2 main grouses a lot of people had with Iphones - small screen and Battery. The plus models all give great battery life and the screen is good. The only weak model since the launch of the 5s is the Iphone 6 and to a lesser extent the 7.
But the software updates on IOS since IOS 9 have greatly improved the user experience. And android itself is trying more to refine itself than actually break new ground in UI.
Another factor in favor of apple is their hold over the market for premium small phones. with the SE model. With the android OEMs completely switched over to 5 inch devices and above, there is a very significant number of people who don't actually have any decent Android choices in the sub 5inch segment, who all are taking to the Iphone SE.
Apple saw double digit sales growth in India driven by the success of the - now manufactured in India - Iphone SE .
All well and good, but every time I look to buy a new phone, I consider the merits of iphone, and I would say that the previous advantages were definitely premium feel and quality, and user experience. I did a lot of research on the Samsung 7 range before deciding it was worth going for, because all the reviews were that it was fabulous in those regards. I have found it to be true, not only that, I had over a year of enjoying wireless charging which iphone users are only now being offered. That and the swype keyboard are pretty much must haves for me in day to day use. The rest of the tech specs are all much of a muchness these days. You want more for your money, buy the top of the range model, they all pretty much offer the same thing.
Good to know you have a Galaxy S7 .. I bought one a few weeks back, huge diwali discounts .
What's your opinion on Battery life ? I get around 4 hours of Screen on time if the screen resolution is kept at 1080p.
And how does wireless charging work with the case on ?