Iran drops India from Chabahar project because of delay in funds

[Slim]

A couple of comments:

We will end up on a tangent, but Shia everywhere have a certain reverence for Iran, so it isn't a Pakistan-specific phenomenon. It is understandable too, given how the Shiism has traditionally been the faith of the downtrodden, so they naturally gravitate towards the one nation in the world where they are in a position of strength. Those of us who have had the luxury of belonging to the majority sect can't ever fully appreciate how this sentiment resonates with them. It is almost akin to how Jewish communities worldwide have a soft corner for Israel. They would contend that being a beleaguered minority faced with hostility makes them gravitate towards Iran, rather than their veneration for Iran causing the hostility to them. In any case, Iranian influence on Shia worldwide is a fact that needs to be taken into account: heaven forbid if we end up in a situation where they manage to influence the Shia in GB in a way detrimental to Pakistan? The Shia in Kargil already have no love lost for us.

Also on our proxies in Afghanistan, the Iranians have them too, and instead of hoping that our proxies prevail over theirs, wouldn't it better if we weren't at loggerheads?

The way I read your post, I came away with a feeling that you wouldn't mind a pacific relationship with Iran, its just that you think it isn't even possible?

There is no harm in having reverence for Iran but it should not come at the expense of your loyalty to Pakistan and the interests of the country. Wahabis have reverence for Saudi Arabia as well, but no one encourages to go and join Al-qaeda or any other terrorist organization. Similarly, Shias joining organizations such as Liwa Zainebiyoun should be discouraged as well. Terrorism should not be allowed by any means, and our citizens should not partake any activity. Has Iran ran out of its own citizens that it is using the fools in Pakistan for their wars in Syria? I have no sympathy for those Pakistanis, who went to Syria to fight for Iran. These are the same Shias who after committing their terrorism in Middle East, come back to Pakistan, to commit local terrorism.

People in GB are highly educated, the government should provide them with high speed internet. Its a farce on how they are still on dial-up internet. I don't see them going against the state, or partaking in any terrorism. Iran has no influence over them. Areas like Parachinar, which was bombed in 2015 by a Sunni terrorist organization, has Iran sympathizers en masse.

However, my only issue is if you look at the issues - it is one way. Iran is recruiting Pakistanis for terrorism, sabotaging Gwadar, supporting BLA. What has Pakistan done against them? Our PM was the first to tweet in their favour when COVID-19 struck them. We have always tried to be gentle towards them.

Our proxies in Afghanistan, the Afghan Taliban, have already won. Iran should focus on their own country. The memory of them drowning Afghan refugees like savages is still afresh. We are not at logger heads with them, anyway, in Afghanistan, their influence is negligible.

You are right, i do not mind being at peace with Iran and have a friendly relation. But the problem is i do not see that being possible due to Iran's nature of being a constant nuisance and a trouble maker in the region. They see us as a threat.

What you are accusing Iran of doing to Pakistan, Iran accuses Pakistan of doing the same thing to Iran. Most likely both countries have been guilty. I agree that Having good relations with Iran should definitely not be at the expense of the gulf arab countries. However if Pakistan and Iran can go back to the Shah era days of relations, How great would that be 2 of 4 borders completely peaceful.

In Pakistan you start with Pashtun and Baloch who are Iranic groups. Then you have Shia who look towards Iran are like 20% of the population, and a majority in Gilgit Baltistan. And the rest of the population has been influenced by Persian culture from the last 1,000 years starting with the Ghazanavid era. So we definitely need good relations with Iran, if possible.

Can you elaborate on what have we done to Iran? When we have tried to harm their interests inside the country by sponsoring terrorism? When have we tried to recruit Iranians to fight our wars? I simply do not see the possibility of going back to the Shah's days. Those were different times, Shah was a liberal.

This line gives away the bias/hatred or whatever you have against Iran.
They are our Muslim brothers with cultural links for centuries, we should learn to live with each other despite our differences.

Iranians believe that we have been acting like US's puppet in the region, fighting its wars in Afghanistan. Now that we are moving closer to China and with India's shift towards US-Israel-Gulf, Iranians animosity towards Pakistan will naturally decrease.

We cannot be friends with Iran but we do not have to be enemies either.

Muslim brothers? The concept of ummah chummah is a joke. Please read my reply to Nostaglic, above.

Very good post. If two neighbours can't be best friends, they should at least try to live in peace minding own business only.

 

[Slim]

lol What ? This guy, are you delusional ? . Show me a post where I said Iran Chabahar port was a game changer ?

Iran is a useless country with minimal influence, barely a handful of countries are on their side. They are also bipolar with their often changes in opinions, it would have been terrible for India to fund all their construction projects and then the Chinese came there and took it all over and Iran gave India the boot

Some of you just have no clue, what you are on about...

Well he did clearly say ‘Indian members.’ Seems like you have the comprehension issues here.

Also lol at you of all people being the one to decide what is an ‘intelligent post.’ Gotta say I’m unsure about whether you’re intelligent or not but you sure can be funny

Our dear friend [MENTION=428]Romali_rotti[/MENTION]'s being excited about the port deal few years ago and sharing why it is 'hot':

Romali uncle, why do you have to do this? I took you to the cleaners last time on the IAF vs PLAAF thread. And now, [MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] bhai, has given an epic phainta. At least own up your words, joshila is smart, he ran away when he saw that evidence was amounting against him before he tried to discredit himself.

Now we know when joshila is not present, you turned to a scaredy cat [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] said this well, once.

Simply admit that this was a massive diplomatic failure at India's part. You literally have lost the counter balance to Gwadar, and lost all your influence to the Chinese. I have got to hand it to Chinese, they are just superb! Winning at every front except their huge mistake at the start of the year.

 

[IAJ]

[MENTION=146948]Slim[/MENTION]. Don't know why you quoted me, but when a person (I believe you are muslim?) prays for America to destroy Iran into pieces then I wonder what's going on in your brain.

Almost every single country has a dark side. Iranian leaders must have done many wrong things, I know many iranians. One of them told me he was tortured for many years in jail. He was probably on the right side, but I heard only his version, so he could have done something wrong also. In the end there are many many innocent people in Iran, and when you ask USA to destroy into pieces you are asking for their death also.

With all the shortcomings it may have, it is still a muslim country and as a muslim you should not pray/ask for that. That is my opinion at least.

 

[Slim]

[MENTION=146948]Slim[/MENTION]. Don't know why you quoted me, but when a person (I believe you are muslim?) prays for America to destroy Iran into pieces then I wonder what's going on in your brain.

Almost every single country has a dark side. Iranian leaders must have done many wrong things, I know many iranians. One of them told me he was tortured for many years in jail. He was probably on the right side, but I heard only his version, so he could have done something wrong also. In the end there are many many innocent people in Iran, and when you ask USA to destroy into pieces you are asking for their death also.

With all the shortcomings it may have, it is still a muslim country and as a muslim you should not pray/ask for that. That is my opinion at least.

IAJ, for me loyalty to the religion doesn't supersedes country. Also, what is the point of being a Muslim country when all you do is harm the interest of your fellow Muslim countries and kill Muslims in Syria?

I did not pray for USA to crush Iran to pieces, i said personally would love to have seen that and i must admit that i should have not used such words. Apologies, taking them back. My thought behind this is that Iran has been a constant nuisance, they have a nuclear program, a religious extremist government and an unstable economy. Perfect recipe for disaster. Someone needs to reign them in.

I am not wishing death to Iranian citizens, god forbid. I meant an end to their country's delusional adventures, so that they can stop shooting their own citizens from the sky for instance.

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[IAJ]

IAJ, for me loyalty to the religion doesn't supersedes country. Also, what is the point of being a Muslim country when all you do is harm the interest of your fellow Muslim countries and kill Muslims in Syria?

I did not pray for USA to crush Iran to pieces, i said personally would love to have seen that and i must admit that i should have not used such words. Apologies, taking them back. My thought behind this is that Iran has been a constant nuisance, they have a nuclear program, a religious extremist government and an unstable economy. Perfect recipe for disaster. Someone needs to reign them in.

I am not wishing death to Iranian citizens, god forbid. I meant an end to their country's delusional adventures, so that they can stop shooting their own citizens from the sky for instance.

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That is actually on of the biggest problems the Muslim Ummah is facing today. They are killing eachother. And as an outsider it's very difficult to understand who is actually on the right path here. You say Iran is killing people in Syria and if they are killing innocent (which I believe is your claim) then that is horrific and should be condemned. Likewise if SaudiA and it's Khaleeji allies are killing innocnent people in Yemen, that should aslo be condemned and all the killings should stop asap. Very challenging times for the ummah this one.

And another thing, which is close to your pov, one of my friends told me that one of the most dangerous things which could happen to Pakistan, is if Iran becomes a nuclear power.

Again I just hope all the neighbours mind their own business and stopp creating troubles in others countries.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Romali uncle, why do you have to do this? I took you to the cleaners last time on the IAF vs PLAAF thread. And now, [MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] bhai, has given an epic phainta. At least own up your words, joshila is smart, he ran away when he saw that evidence was amounting against him before he tried to discredit himself.


You didn't take anyone to the cleaners, with your Chinese made defence products are cream of the crop talk ... If any I posted my thoughts saying why I thought it was junk. GK came and gave a much better rational explanation, you did not reply back to my final reply to you on that thread if I remember correctly, who knows if you did, can you put it up here and if your reply to me was worthy then I will acknowledge it .

My opinion has not changed; China's jet engine at the moment = junk, they have some copied Russian tech, I still say what I repeated on that other thread, IAF vs PLAAF I feel better about than compared to other combat scenarios, thanks to made in China Jets... OHH before you come back with OH OH China has SU-35 and India doesn't, here is my reply to that; IAF can buy whatever they want from Russia, there is a reason why we rejected the SU-35, heck even Russian Airforce doesn't carry much of it

Now we know when joshila is not present, you turned to a scaredy cat [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] said this well, once.

Oh yes the Pseudo Secular :, I love that kid, the amount of fun I have trolling him is great, Last I checked you addressed the post to me and Joshilla in that thread, I merely asked CJ to join in since it is what you asked .


Simply admit that this was a massive diplomatic failure at India's part. You literally have lost the counter balance to Gwadar, and lost all your influence to the Chinese. I have got to hand it to Chinese, they are just superb! Winning at every front except their huge mistake at the start of the year.

No, I will not admit to something I feel is not a diplomatic failure, Iran's opinions change like I change my underwear, they cant be trusted. Majority of the world wants nothing to do with them, Indians are better off without them. Congrats to China I have to hand it to them, they just know how to win over totally broke and bankrupt, financially struggling nations ). Ah well when it started it was a good idea in theory for India however it is not in practice....

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[Technics 1210]

Well this thread proves how the brainwashed Hindutva mob operate. Pretend they don't care then claim 'brainwashing' when pulled up with views they don't even remember.

Expose the lot.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Can you elaborate on what have we done to Iran? When we have tried to harm their interests inside the country by sponsoring terrorism? When have we tried to recruit Iranians to fight our wars? I simply do not see the possibility of going back to the Shah's days. Those were different times, Shah was a liberal.

Well Iran accuses Pakistan of supporting terrorist groups as well. In particular Jandallah.

Whether relations can go back to what they were in the Shah's time is to be determined, but every effort should be made, so Imran Khan and Bajwa are doing the right thing by trying.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Well this thread proves how the brainwashed Hindutva mob operate.

Do you even know what Hindutva means ?

Pretend they don't care then claim 'brainwashing' when pulled up with views they don't even remember.

Brainwashing ? You got one thing right, I did forget I made that post on Chabhahar supporting it years ago . However people's opinions change, hence why I don't support Chabhahar now. I acknowledged that I forgot about the initial post, happens, I owned up, Slog acknowledged my post in regards to it.

Expose the lot.

Exposed what ? That I forgot I made a post years ago and because I no longer support it, you feel its cause China stole Iran from India ? Here I don't usually do this but, just so you can feel less bitter about me; I do not feel Chabhahar is in India's best interest, not just Chabhahar but any relations with Iran and I swear this on my 2 daughter's life.

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[Slog]

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It’s not that you changed opinion. You vehemently claimed at the start of the thread that you always thought it was terrible idea and that you were against it from day 1. Those turned out to be lies. So yes you were exposed in that respect. You accepted it so it’s fine but that still doesn’t take away your initial claims

 

[JaDed]

That is actually on of the biggest problems the Muslim Ummah is facing today. They are killing eachother. And as an outsider it's very difficult to understand who is actually on the right path here. You say Iran is killing people in Syria and if they are killing innocent (which I believe is your claim) then that is horrific and should be condemned. Likewise if SaudiA and it's Khaleeji allies are killing innocnent people in Yemen, that should aslo be condemned and all the killings should stop asap. Very challenging times for the ummah this one.

And another thing, which is close to your pov, one of my friends told me that one of the most dangerous things which could happen to Pakistan, is if Iran becomes a nuclear power.

Again I just hope all the neighbours mind their own business and stopp creating troubles in others countries.

So if an Islamic country starts a war with Norway you would end up supporting the Islamic country against the country that you live in?

 

[gani999]

Anyone underestimating Iran needs a lesson in geopolitics. They are, possibly the smartest country around.
Despite all the US sanctions, they have very successfully managed to plant their proxies all over the place and now are a force to reckon with in Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, the Palestinian territories, and almost every Gulf nation with a sizeable Shia population.
They have come a long way from the 1980s when they used to back two-bit Palestinians to hijack airliners and take hostages. The ayatollahs of Iran are now a pragmatic, calculating and a very, very patient bunch.

Anyone having any doubts on Iran and its capabilities should read the book 'The devil we know - Dealing with the new Iranian superpower', by Robert Baer.

It won't be long before Pakistan's beleaguered Shias, persecuted by the Sunni majority there, start turning to Iran for solace.

I don't know why the Chinese are building a railway line in Chabahar? Do they want a direct link from the Persian Gulf to China through Iran, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan, thereby bypassing the CPEC entirely? Maybe they have realised that they need an alternative to CPEC, given that it passes through disputed territory in Kashmir and is not very far away from Indian missiles. If things hot up between India and China, the CPEC will be a very juicy target.

Pakistan should stop cheerleading China. Neither they nor the Iranians can be trusted.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Anyone underestimating Iran needs a lesson in geopolitics. They are, possibly the smartest country around.
Despite all the US sanctions, they have very successfully managed to plant their proxies all over the place and now are a force to reckon with in Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, the Palestinian territories, and almost every Gulf nation with a sizeable Shia population.
They have come a long way from the 1980s when they used to back two-bit Palestinians to hijack airliners and take hostages. The ayatollahs of Iran are now a pragmatic, calculating and a very, very patient bunch.

Anyone having any doubts on Iran and its capabilities should read the book 'The devil we know - Dealing with the new Iranian superpower', by Robert Baer.

It won't be long before Pakistan's beleaguered Shias, persecuted by the Sunni majority there, start turning to Iran for solace.

I don't know why the Chinese are building a railway line in Chabahar? Do they want a direct link from the Persian Gulf to China through Iran, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan, thereby bypassing the CPEC entirely? Maybe they have realised that they need an alternative to CPEC, given that it passes through disputed territory in Kashmir and is not very far away from Indian missiles. If things hot up between India and China, the CPEC will be a very juicy target.

Pakistan should stop cheerleading China. Neither they nor the Iranians can be trusted.

Gosh, why so dramatic?!
You just described a nation's survival instinct in action.

Iran (or ancient Persia) has been their, since forever. They have in one manner or another managed to exist against all bigger invading superpowers.

USA/Israel have tried their best to damage them in one way or another. Never expect Iran to roll over and simply surrender.

And I know Iran never liked Pakistan. It's mainly because of Pakistan helping USA in its 'quest for freedom'.

It's time for Pakistan to change its ways and focus on well being and economy of its people, instead of being a USA 3rd world proxy.

Who can be trusted?

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Anyone underestimating Iran needs a lesson in geopolitics. They are, possibly the smartest country around.
Despite all the US sanctions, they have very successfully managed to plant their proxies all over the place and now are a force to reckon with in Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, the Palestinian territories, and almost every Gulf nation with a sizeable Shia population.
They have come a long way from the 1980s when they used to back two-bit Palestinians to hijack airliners and take hostages. The ayatollahs of Iran are now a pragmatic, calculating and a very, very patient bunch.

Anyone having any doubts on Iran and its capabilities should read the book 'The devil we know - Dealing with the new Iranian superpower', by Robert Baer.

It won't be long before Pakistan's beleaguered Shias, persecuted by the Sunni majority there, start turning to Iran for solace.

I don't know why the Chinese are building a railway line in Chabahar? Do they want a direct link from the Persian Gulf to China through Iran, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan, thereby bypassing the CPEC entirely? Maybe they have realised that they need an alternative to CPEC, given that it passes through disputed territory in Kashmir and is not very far away from Indian missiles. If things hot up between India and China, the CPEC will be a very juicy target.

Pakistan should stop cheerleading China. Neither they nor the Iranians can be trusted.

One Shias already look towards Iran. Two, Shias are not persecuted in Pakistan. For every bombings which targeted Shias, there were like 10 which Sunnis. Sunni Shia is not an election issue in Pakistan. Most people, even the religious ones dont care about Sunni Shia divide. Sunni Shia intermarry in Pakistan.

 

[Slim]

That is actually on of the biggest problems the Muslim Ummah is facing today. They are killing eachother. And as an outsider it's very difficult to understand who is actually on the right path here. You say Iran is killing people in Syria and if they are killing innocent (which I believe is your claim) then that is horrific and should be condemned. Likewise if SaudiA and it's Khaleeji allies are killing innocnent people in Yemen, that should aslo be condemned and all the killings should stop asap. Very challenging times for the ummah this one.

And another thing, which is close to your pov, one of my friends told me that one of the most dangerous things which could happen to Pakistan, is if Iran becomes a nuclear power.

Again I just hope all the neighbours mind their own business and stopp creating troubles in others countries.

Killing innocents is one thing but Iran's attitude is of a trouble maker. They cannot handle their own country but are deeply interested in creating trouble in Balochistan (along with their partners India), Yemen, Syria, Israel (Hizub is almost dead). Iran is like that kid who wants to take panga with everyone, and then have a victim mentality as well.

Currently, protests are ongoing in Iran, and they are censoring their citizens. What a weird country, man.

I have already called Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and Iran the Nexus of evil. They are the trouble makers of the highest order, always getting themselves in the affairs of the other countries.

Ummah chummah, is nothing. Its a false concept, the Ummah showed their aukat on the issue of Kashmir, i couldnt give much *****.

Of course, Iran becoming a nuclear power is a massive threat to Pakistan - the zealots on the top will become more emboldened. Not to forget our geniuses in Pakistan helped a lot in their nuclear program. Just great.

Iran needs to be reigned in, i hope China understands this fully. Message needs to go from the top. We have traitors already sitting on the top, sadly. One traitor minister part of the ruling party, allowed Zayireen from Iran to enter Pakistan at the peak of Corona, which led to the introduction of COVID-19 in Pakistan. Never forget.

 

[Slim]

Anyone underestimating Iran needs a lesson in geopolitics. They are, possibly the smartest country around.
Despite all the US sanctions, they have very successfully managed to plant their proxies all over the place and now are a force to reckon with in Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, the Palestinian territories, and almost every Gulf nation with a sizeable Shia population.
They have come a long way from the 1980s when they used to back two-bit Palestinians to hijack airliners and take hostages. The ayatollahs of Iran are now a pragmatic, calculating and a very, very patient bunch.

Anyone having any doubts on Iran and its capabilities should read the book 'The devil we know - Dealing with the new Iranian superpower', by Robert Baer.

It won't be long before Pakistan's beleaguered Shias, persecuted by the Sunni majority there, start turning to Iran for solace.

I don't know why the Chinese are building a railway line in Chabahar? Do they want a direct link from the Persian Gulf to China through Iran, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan, thereby bypassing the CPEC entirely? Maybe they have realised that they need an alternative to CPEC, given that it passes through disputed territory in Kashmir and is not very far away from Indian missiles. If things hot up between India and China, the CPEC will be a very juicy target.

Pakistan should stop cheerleading China. Neither they nor the Iranians can be trusted.

Iran is doing what it does best, get bunch of rag tag milita group and start insurgencies in different parts of the world while their economy is declining and they were begging when COVID-19 struck them. So much for being smart and pragmatic.

You are clearly deluded if you think Shias is Pakistan are disenfranchised from Pakistan LOL Thats your media's constructed narrative to feed you guys like their many false narratives. Shias in Pakistan have a natural leaning towards Iran due to the religious sites, and them being the one of the few Shia majority countries, other than that there is nothing. Sectarian vote is non-existent in Pakistan and sectarian warfare has reduce massively since the government took the Saudi funded Madrassas in control and Iran has started getting phainta from the West.

China is building a rail link to Chahbar to effectively end any Indian involvement in the program. You guys have been check-mated, masterfully by the Chinese yet again. Modi has been a complete failure against China. It is honestly embarrassing to see him getting owned countlessly by the Chinese. You guys in no way can harm Gwadar now, what an absolute crushing defeat for you guys.

China has hit two targets with one stone - an alternative route, and ending India's influence once and for all. I would not be surprised, if BLA is found running in Iran for cover after this. Your game in Central Asia is done and dusted. You are being made to pack your bags in Afghanistan, and now its Iran. Its delicious.

 

[Pakpak]

One Shias already look towards Iran. Two, Shias are not persecuted in Pakistan. For every bombings which targeted Shias, there were like 10 which Sunnis. Sunni Shia is not an election issue in Pakistan. Most people, even the religious ones dont care about Sunni Shia divide. Sunni Shia intermarry in Pakistan.

Add to that the Bhutto family who has ruled our nation for years including our founder are all Shias.

 

[Romali_rotti]

It’s not that you changed opinion. You vehemently claimed at the start of the thread that you always thought it was terrible idea and that you were against it from day 1. Those turned out to be lies. So yes you were exposed in that respect. You accepted it so it’s fine but that still doesn’t take away your initial claims

Yes agreed, not going argue your main point. However had I remembered I made that post years ago my response would be: 'I was for the Chabhahar at the start however due to Iran's behaviour and the fact that they hold little value in today's world, I no longer feel Chabhahar would be beneficial to India, so no big loss...

 

[Abdullah719]

Amid reports of Chabahar snub, no role for India in Iran's Farzad-B gas field

It is official. India does not have a role, at least in the present, in developing the Farzad-B gas field in Iran, even though the Oil and Natural Gas Corporation was involved in the discovery of the natural gas reserves there.

"In January 2020, we were informed that in the immediate future, Iran would develop the field on its own and would like to involve India appropriately at a later stage. The matter remains under discussion,'' said Anurag Srivastava, spokesperson, ministry of external affairs, at his weekly briefing today.

The ONGC's overseas arm, ONGC Videsh Limited (OVL), had been in talks to develop the offshore oil reserve in the Persian Gulf, but discussions moved slowly initially, with neither side agreeing to the other's rates. The US imposed sanctions on Iran in May 2018 and India subsequently stopped its crude imports from Iran in 2019, a move likely to have influenced Iran's decision to keep India out of the gas field.

Srivastava was not forthcoming either on reports that Iran has dumped India from the 628km Chabahar-Zahedan railway line project. While not directly responding to reports that Iran was upset with India not releasing funds for the project, he alluded that the slow progress on the project was from Tehran's side. He said that Indian Railway Construction (IRCON) was appointed by India to assess the feasibility of the project, for which it was working with an Iranian railway ministry company, CDTIC.

"IRCON has completed the site inspection and review of the feasibility report. Detailed discussions were thereafter held on other relevant aspects of the project, which had to take into account the financial challenges that Iran was facing. In December 2019, these issues were reviewed in detail at the 19th India-Iran Joint Commission Meeting in Tehran. The Iranian side was to nominate an authorised entity to finalise outstanding technical and financial issues. This is still awaited,'' he said.

According to reports, Iran has claimed it wants to go ahead with this project, too, by itself. However, rich Chinese bankrolling, in the form of a $400 billion commitment to fund the development of oil, gas and transport infrastructure in Iran, has given the investment-strapped country a lifeline.

Srivastava did not speak about plans for the Chabahar Phase II project either. India's plan in the Chabahar project originally was to develop two terminals and operate five berths on a ten-year lease. India was also assured that it would get access to the free trade zone in the port's hinterland, as well as an opportunity to be part of developing the railway line to Zahedan near the Afghanistan border. The Chabahar role India saw for itself was to create a multi-mode transport link up to Afghanistan on the one hand and also one deep into Central Asia on the other.

Chabahar was positioned as a key port in the ambitious International North-South Transit Corridor, linking Central Asia, Russia and going up to Europe. If not a counter to China's huge Belt and Road Project (BRI)—the idea for the Chabahar project dates back to 2003—the port project also marked India's foray into connectivity projects beyond its immediate neighbourhood.

Srivastava called reports about the Chabahar project "speculative'' and said that India has a long-standing commitment to the port project, which was operationalised when Prime Minister Narendra Modi visited Iran in 2016. He said that "since then, despite the difficulties posed by the sanctions situation, there has been significant progress on the port project. An Indian company has been operating the port since 2018 and has steadily scaled up the traffic at the port.''

He said that since December 2018 (when the port began functioning), 82 vessels have been handled there, including 52 in the last 12 months alone. The port also handled 12 lakh tonnes of bulk cargo and 8,200 containers.

"Proactive measures are currently underway to increase the usage of Chabahar Port, both for Afghanistan and Central Asia,'' he said.

https://www.theweek.in/news/world/2...le-for-india-in-irans-farzad-b-gas-field.html

 

[cricketjoshila]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] bhai singing hymns about the strategic advantages:

Chabahar port is still being built with Indian investment.

India was not a part of the rail line that was being built from chabahar.

Do read up a bit.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Also India had bypassed Pakistan. What happens to India's bypass now?

Sab kuch padh liya karo before you get excited and have premature celebration.


deputy to Iran's Ports and Maritime Organization, Farhad Montaser, called the story "totally false because Iran has not inked any deal with India regarding the Zahedan-Chabahr" railway.

"Iran has only signed two agreements with Indians for investment in Chabahar: one is related to port's machinery and equipment, and the second is related to India's investment to the tune of $150m," Montaser was quoted by the IRNA news agency as saying on Wednesday.

"We had a list of Indian investments in Chabahar port, which also included the issue of Chabahar railway infrastructure and the railway, but during the negotiations it was not agreed."


Chalo aage badho ab.

 

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Sab kuch padh liya karo before you get excited and have premature celebration.


deputy to Iran's Ports and Maritime Organization, Farhad Montaser, called the story "totally false because Iran has not inked any deal with India regarding the Zahedan-Chabahr" railway.

"Iran has only signed two agreements with Indians for investment in Chabahar: one is related to port's machinery and equipment, and the second is related to India's investment to the tune of $150m," Montaser was quoted by the IRNA news agency as saying on Wednesday.

"We had a list of Indian investments in Chabahar port, which also included the issue of Chabahar railway infrastructure and the railway, but during the negotiations it was not agreed."


Chalo aage badho ab.

And how does this tally with your original "we have chabahar" in respect to Gwadar, how is that possession looking with the overarching Chinese?

From a main player to being a side act-a world of difference!

 

[MenInG]

Tehran: Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Sayyid Ali Khamenei has opened an official Twitter account in Hindi.

The new account, which has his bio written in Devanagari, has been putting out tweets in the same script.

The new account at the time of filing this report had 1,009 Followers. Ayatollah Khamenei has posted two tweets so far.

Ayatollah Khamenei has also created Twitter accounts in other languages including Persian, Arabic, Urdu, French, Spanish, Russian and English. However, so far Khamenei has not followed any Indian leader from his new Hindi account.

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Ayatollah Khamenei is a Twelver Shia Marja' and the second and current Supreme Leader of Iran.

He was previously President of Iran from 1981 to 1989. Ayatollah Khamenei is the longest-serving head of state in the Middle East, in office since 1989.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/ira...tter-account-2276786?pfrom=home-lateststories

 

[JaDed]

Ayotollah's do have influence in India, remember seeing his huge poster in thousand lights Mosque in Chennai.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Also don't forget oil is a dying industry. One early sign is the Tesla stock, which has taken off like a rocket.

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2. Oil has a relatively inelastic supply schedule. Even a 10% drop in demand can lead to a 50% drop in price unless the oil producing countries come up with agreement to cut production. The cost of production for the Saudis is estimated to be anywhere $2 to $20 per barrel. So it is profitable for them to keep producing oil at least till the point where the price is greater than $20.

The cost of solar is rapidly declining, and to produce solar energy equal to the energy of a barrel of oil is less than $10 and falling. Think you can compete with that 10 years from now? Oil is indeed dying.

Oil industry dead yet?