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Iran names Khamenei's hardline son Mojtaba Khamenei as new supreme leader [Update@ Post 3541]

How will Iran react to the attack from Israel?

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bones said:
My social feed is being flooded with AI about Netanyahu and his potential injury or death. The Israelis don't need to bring him out of course, but unless they do the rumours will grow.

I don't trust anything on either side until it's been confirmed, but I have never seen anyone with a leader dead with so much excitement as this.
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Mostly the news is fake. Even official news in Western Media is fake.

There are a few semi reliable channels on x and telegram. Rest is mainly nonsense.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Mostly the news is fake. Even official news in Western Media is fake.

There are a few semi reliable channels on x and telegram. Rest is mainly nonsense.
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Plenty of good journalists and outlets if you look for them.

It's a lazy trope to generalise the news as fake, usually propagated by fascists and demagogues who despise being held accountable. By destroying the credibility of the press, they can then "flood the zone" with their own propaganda. Trump's team are open about this strategy.

Yes there are agendas and biases behind almost every network. Much of Western press ownership is concentrated in the hands of the ultra-rich and Israeli sympathisers which must be called out. However too many people are easily misled and lack the critical thinking skills to discern fact from fiction. They also label any news as fake that disagrees with their own views whatever the facts.

There are bad journalists just as there are bad doctors, bad lawyers, bad accountants etc. It doesn't mean one should dismiss those entire professions, or believe some of these clowns on X are credible alternatives.
 
Markhor said:
Plenty of good journalists and outlets if you look for them.

It's a lazy trope to generalise the news as fake, usually propagated by fascists and demagogues who despise being held accountable. By destroying the credibility of the press, they can then "flood the zone" with their own propaganda. Trump's team are open about this strategy.

Yes there are agendas and biases behind almost every network. Much of Western press ownership is concentrated in the hands of the ultra-rich and Israeli sympathisers which must be called out. However too many people are easily misled and lack the critical thinking skills to discern fact from fiction. They also label any news as fake that disagrees with their own views whatever the facts.

There are bad journalists just as there are bad doctors, bad lawyers, bad accountants etc. It doesn't mean one should dismiss those entire professions, or believe some of these clowns on X are credible alternatives.
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The good journalists when it comes to US wars, Israel and Iran are few and far between. In this case, it is completely accurate to call them fake news.
 
Rana said:
I see what Iran is doing here,

They can’t really touch the US military or Land to cause it serious damage. Instead, they are damaging those who have assisted them in the Middle East and softening their hold in the region.

Russia and China are winning here without even firing a bullet. @Markhor @DeadlyVenom @finalfantasy7 @emranabbas
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It is a risky strategy as they will need to reconcile with and live amongst those countries should they survive.

But at the moment they have no other choice.
 
Red-Indian said:
I think everyone can see what's coming on Kharg Island. They'll bomb it till there's no military infrastructure left, then try to take and hold it with Marines to use as a base to secure and guard the Strait.

It's really close to Iranian mainland though. Makes US soldiers there pretty vulnerable.
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Iran would know this. Would be surprised if they don’t have a contingency plan to mark out all US troops that will be deployed for this suicidal mission
 
Rana said:
I see what Iran is doing here,

They can’t really touch the US military or Land to cause it serious damage. Instead, they are damaging those who have assisted them in the Middle East and softening their hold in the region.

Russia and China are winning here without even firing a bullet. @Markhor @DeadlyVenom @finalfantasy7 @emranabbas
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For Iran it's both strategically necessary and morally justified to strike these Gulf sheikhdoms that host US bases and enable Israeli expansionism.

We know Palestinians are killed with (sadly) no economic or geostrategic blowback. Iran is different not only because of its ability to impact energy markets, but also the region's position as a global logistics and commercial hub.

Two weeks ago the FT reported that insurance for vessels passing through the Strait has surged, and in some cases policies have been cancelled. The re-routing of supply chains and its effect on prices will come at a major cost to the global economy.


Long story short, Iran are saying to America and Israel that this isn't Gaza where you get to massacre us every few years with impunity. We're willing to bear a heavy cost ourselves but will set fire to your friends and the world economy in the process.
 
Red-Indian said:
I think everyone can see what's coming on Kharg Island. They'll bomb it till there's no military infrastructure left, then try to take and hold it with Marines to use as a base to secure and guard the Strait.

It's really close to Iranian mainland though. Makes US soldiers there pretty vulnerable.
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Vulnerable? They'd be sitting ducks. Its not happening. They may bomb it but there is more chance of Martians conquering it than Americans.
 
CricLegend said:
Not going to be straight forward to take over the island
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You think? It's nigh on impossible. With modern ISR, drones and precision weapons they won't conquer it. They may somehow manage a token landing and photoshoot before running off but even that is if Iran let's them as a gesture similar to what they did last year in letting them bomb fordow.
 
Allowing the US to take a strategic position like Kharg is a direct threat to China?
 
CricLegend said:
Not going to be straight forward to take over the island
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Taking over is not the issue. With the kind of weaponry and air support, the Marines will have, it shouldn't be too difficult.

Holding it will the problem. Maybe 5000 soldiers sitting on a island that was never designed as a base i.e. no bunkers or such plus the proximity to the Iranian mainland. I'm not military expert but feels like they'd be very vulnerable.
 
The war is as good as over...USA has made it's move...capturing the islands near the strait in 2 weeks time and taking control of kharg island...there will be losses ofcourse.
.but Iran cannot manufacture new missiles or drones, their launchers are getting destroyed and now they can't mine the strait anymore...once USA occupies those islands...Iran loses leverage on strait of hormitz and that's it ...it's game over for them with dwindling missiles and drones.
 
emranabbas said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2032703095868895530
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Moron veena Jain and even more people who are sharing these news don't realize that India didn't stop buying Russian oil..that's a fantasy and the idiots don't understand market pricing...discount is to prevailing market price. Market price increased after war and hence Russian oil price increased with it. What kind of idiots post on Twitter ..good lord
 
Please wait & watch. We will know the results in just a month or so. Iran's current leadership that you see on X and TV are US assets. They are wearing the IRGC and Iran's military capablities thin. They gonna sit with the US soon and talk peace once that's done.

:kp
Varun said:
The US are bigger idiots than we thought if they actually put boots on the ground on the behest of their Israeli masters.
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CricLegend said:
Not going to be straight forward to take over the island
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I am not sure if Iran has enough left to defend it...in that narrow area...us air force will blast them away...they absolutely need to prevent the initial setup because once they get a foothold..things will only stabilize for USA...how many drones can they use...
 
straighttalk said:
The war is as good as over...USA has made it's move...capturing the islands near the strait in 2 weeks time and taking control of kharg island...there will be losses ofcourse.
.but Iran cannot manufacture new missiles or drones, their launchers are getting destroyed and now they can't mine the strait anymore...once USA occupies those islands...Iran loses leverage on strait of hormitz and that's it ...it's game over for them with dwindling missiles and drones.
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You spout so much rubbish. Goto google maps and see where kharg island is. It is nowhere near straits of hormuz. Gwadar is closer.

Putting troops on an island makes you a sitting duck in this day and age with drone and missile warfare.
 
straighttalk said:
The war is as good as over...USA has made it's move...capturing the islands near the strait in 2 weeks time and taking control of kharg island...there will be losses ofcourse.
.but Iran cannot manufacture new missiles or drones, their launchers are getting destroyed and now they can't mine the strait anymore...once USA occupies those islands...Iran loses leverage on strait of hormitz and that's it ...it's game over for them with dwindling missiles and drones.
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Theek eh Einstein. Your verdict is marked.
 
Trump said he will get strait of Hormuz open, will continue ti shoot Iranian Ship , boats...

Now expecting fierce battle on Hormuz strait.... in History it will called as "battle of Hormuz"
 
Red-Indian said:
I think everyone can see what's coming on Kharg Island. They'll bomb it till there's no military infrastructure left, then try to take and hold it with Marines to use as a base to secure and guard the Strait.

It's really close to Iranian mainland though. Makes US soldiers there pretty vulnerable.
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I wonder how American mothers will feel sending their sons to fight for greater israel?
 
IronShield said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2032634240244879547

Worth listening to Trump's crypto car David Sacks.
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Look at the size of Israel and the size of Iran. In cricketing terms, Israel is a batsman and Iran is a bowler. Iran can keep pounding away and cause a death by a thousand cuts. Sooner or later, Israel will eventually 'get out'.

Unless Israel turns to nukes of course (can't put it past them).
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I wonder how American mothers will feel sending their sons to fight for greater israel?
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I think at this point, even neutrals start wishing for the worst for the larger good.

Crazy high oil prices and a few more American soldier deaths might be the only thing that could convince Trump to step back from this craziness.

An actual occupation of the island and it turning out to be a disaster could be just what the doctor ordered. A successful occupation and unblocking of the Straits (which is perfectly possible given the level of American technology) is actually the worst thing that could happen. It'll actually embolden Trump into more idiocy.
 
Devadwal said:
BREAKING: Trump says multiple countries will deploy warships alongside the United States to keep the Strait of Hormuz open


https://twitter.com/x/status/2032821840633077851

:kp
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Indian Navy is already operating in the region to only keep Indian ships and sailors safe.

We have seen this on the news for a few days.

DO NOT let the communist propaganda tell you "India sent ships to the region because Trump ordered."

The Pakistan Fake propaganda factory are sure to seed this in India and around the world. And you know who in India will amplify .

Hit back at those who try to drag India into the war. Preemptive narrative is the best narrative against globalist, radical islamist, and communist narratives.

:klopp :kp
 
Can anyone believe in US based in oil storage ? 😄

IMO Iran taking revenge on all sunni nationa under the shadow of US bases
 
Varun said:
Look at the size of Israel and the size of Iran. In cricketing terms, Israel is a batsman and Iran is a bowler. Iran can keep pounding away and cause a death by a thousand cuts. Sooner or later, Israel will eventually 'get out'.

Unless Israel turns to nukes of course (can't put it past them).
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That is the real fear, eventually Isreal will tap out the longer the war goes on and eventually they might go for the nuclear option.

They have gone with overwhelming power to try to make this into a quick war, but it hasn't worked. They got thousands of their spies and infiltrator killed in the uprising first, that was a high stakes move that didn't pay off.

The precision with which Iran is taking out infrastructure and military targets in several countries shows that they have been preparing for this scenario for a long time.

The fpv drone war hasnt even started, that will be the next stage in countries like Iraq and Syria or to lesser extent Bahrain which has a Shia majority. We may see western troops having to pull out of these countries eventually. Trump would be mad to put troops on Kharg Island, he needs to look at Ukraine and how its been able to halt Russia in a ground war.
 
BREAKING: Iran has threatened to strike Ukraine over its alleged support for Israel’s defense against Iranian drones, saying the entire territory of Ukraine is now considered a “legitimate target.”

:klopp :kp
 
Devadwal said:
Indian Navy is already operating in the region to only keep Indian ships and sailors safe.

We have seen this on the news for a few days.

DO NOT let the communist propaganda tell you "India sent ships to the region because Trump ordered."

The Pakistan Fake propaganda factory are sure to seed this in India and around the world. And you know who in India will amplify .

Hit back at those who try to drag India into the war. Preemptive narrative is the best narrative against globalist, radical islamist, and communist narratives.

:klopp :kp
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Do you think Pakistan will help Iran in this crisis?
 
straighttalk said:
The war is as good as over...USA has made it's move...capturing the islands near the strait in 2 weeks time and taking control of kharg island...there will be losses ofcourse.
.but Iran cannot manufacture new missiles or drones, their launchers are getting destroyed and now they can't mine the strait anymore...once USA occupies those islands...Iran loses leverage on strait of hormitz and that's it ...it's game over for them with dwindling missiles and drones.
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Are you a Trump spokesperson? His regime was saying the same thing on day 1. Iran is decimated, obliterated bla bla bla. Within a couple of hours all American bases were under heavy fire and still are. If the war is over why are they now talking about ground troops? Why are they calling in a 2nd and 3rd carrier group? These are not the signs of a winning side. Why are the Americans looking for allies in the region (Kurds, ISIS) to step in? That's not a sign of a winning team.

Bottom line is - the Israelis and Americans have failed, especially America. They lost this war when they failed with regime change on day 1 and didn't even contemplate the public and economic blowback.

You're either totally clueless or you're trolling us.
 
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