Iran names Khamenei's hardline son Mojtaba Khamenei as new supreme leader [Update@ Post 3541]

[Energy]

The 170 schoolgirls killed was an absolute tragedy and it was the US responsible for it. The Pentagon agreed it was a mistake. Terrible loss of life , painful tragedy.
The Iranian regime can stop the nuclear program and terminate it and the war will end. But they dont want to do it. And Iran getting a nuclear bomb is non negotiable at this point. If they dont agree, unfortunately their nuclear infra will be hit very hard. Wars never are good and the last resort but Iran getting nuclear missiles is a no go.

Is there evidence of their nuclear missile programme?

 

[deltexas]

@deltexas

https://twitter.com/x/status/2031655754701357150

Yeah , not going good for you I guess lol ! Getting tough for you to afford gas now bcos of the war lol ! Maybe if you and your guys had asked Iran not to escalate.

And you seem to have an unhealthy obsession for cabbies and stuff like this and your bootlicking and shilling here . 70k posts here and 69k of those are bootlicking & shilling, yet you get called a k***ir. Why oh why ?? Makes me think you are one of those auto drivers in Delhi that have to pander to a peaceful religion for your rozgori lol ! Its ok dude... Thats why your memes are all those auto driver memes like this and those other cycle memes bcos they are the ones who get these. Nothing wrong dude in being an auto driver I guess using those gas cylinders, dont be ashamed lol !



Bond , James Bond.

Suraj, truck driver Suraj.
Viru , auto driver Viru. Aka Viru Abdul Pasha

 

[deltexas]

Is there evidence of their nuclear missile programme?

Posted this yesterday in response to another poster .

You need to state the full statement/s for clarity and not cherry pick to suit your agenda. Here it is ( the bold portions are the critical ones ) :

Grossi stated that the IAEA "don't see a structured program to manufacture nuclear weapons" in Iran currently.

Key points from his statement and subsequent comments include:

• While Iran has an "ambitious" nuclear program, the IAEA has not found evidence of an active, systematic plan to construct a nuclear weapon.
• He noted that the assessment is made despite not having the full access that the IAEA should have to certain sites in Iran.
• Grossi has consistently clarified that having the capacity to produce enriched uranium (Iran possesses a large stockpile of near-weapons-grade 60% purity uranium) is not the same as possessing an actual nuclear weapon or a structured program to build one.
• He expressed serious concern over the large stockpile of highly enriched uranium and Iran's refusal to grant full inspector access, which hinders the agency's ability to provide assurance that Iran's program is exclusively peaceful.

The statement emphasizes a distinction between the potential and the actual existence of a structured nuclear weapons program as verified by the IAEA

So, why doesnt Iran allow full access to the inspectors ? And yeah its not their call now because of their previous history. Allow full access and eliminate all doubts . Why isnt Iran doing it ? If they are a soverign nation and dont want to do it, so be it. They should be prepared for the consequences. A nuclear armed Iran is simply a non-negotiable thing.. .

 

[hassan918]

'Fingers on the trigger': Deadly warnings for Iranians being urged to take action​

When US President Donald Trump began strikes on Iran, killing Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in the process, he told Iranians to "take over your government".

"It will be yours to take," Trump said. "This will be probably your only chance for generations."

But as the war between the US and Israel and Iran has deepened over the past two weeks, Iranians have received sharply different messages about what may happen if they do take action.

Encouragement from figures outside Iran has come as reports have emerged of an increased security and police presence in cities across the country, with officials of the Islamic Republic warning against any possible gatherings or protests.

'We will come after you'
Earlier this week, Iran's Police Chief, Brigadier General Ahmadreza Radan, warned that his forces would treat anyone who takes to the streets "at the enemy's request" as an "enemy".

"All our forces have their fingers on the trigger and are ready to defend the revolution and support their people and their country," Radan added.

Separately, a presenter on Iran's state television Channel Three addressed opponents of the Islamic Republic and those who might protest against the government.

"When the dust of this sedition settles, we will come after you," the presenter said.

"Confiscating your property will be the least of it. We will make you and your families pay, whether you are inside the country or abroad."

And on 8 March, Iran's Prosecutor General Office issued a statement warning Iranians living abroad that if they cooperate with what it described as "hostile enemies", they could face severe punishment.

Citing Iran's law on the "intensification of punishment for espionage and cooperation with Israel and hostile countries", the statement stressed that any "operational activity, intelligence cooperation or espionage" for such countries could result not only in the confiscation of property but also the death penalty.

These threats are a stark reminder of the threats faced by Iranians if they do protest against the government.

During weeks of anti-government protests in December and January, at least 7,000 protesters were killed in an unprecedented crackdown by security forces, human rights groups say.

'Take your destiny'
Meanwhile, figures outside Iran have tried to encourage Iranians to take action against their government, at a precarious moment for the clerical establishment.

On Tuesday, Reza Pahlavi, the exiled son of Iran's last shah, urged people in Iran to obtain essential supplies as soon as possible and wait for what he called his "final call".

In a video message, he said: "For your own safety, leave the streets and remain in your homes. Continue strikes and do not go to work. To show your unity, keep up the night-time chants [against the authorities] with strength."

Pahlavi also addressed members of Iran's military and security forces, saying: "This is the final opportunity to separate yourselves from the forces of repression and join the people."

His call came as the security atmosphere inside Iran has intensified. As an internet blackout has continued, checkpoints have been set up in many neighbourhoods and streets.

On Wednesday, Iran's semi-official Fars News Agency, which is close to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), alleged that Israeli drones had targeted several checkpoints in Tehran. The agency said a number of armed personnel were killed in the attacks and, quoting what it described as unofficial sources, said "around 10" people had died.

Fars said the strikes targeted checkpoints in several districts and cited an "informed source" who claimed the operation was intended to weaken the security presence in Tehran and create conditions for unrest or anti-government protests. The report also alleged the operation involved "monarchists", referring to supporters of Pahlavi.

As the military strikes continue, concerns about civilian casualties and rising tensions in the Middle East have grown. Many observers have warned about the broader consequences of the war for civilian lives, regional security and global energy markets.

Since hostilities began, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has also addressed the people of Iran, saying Israel would "create conditions that will allow you to take your destiny into your own hands".

Netanyahu this week also added: "This is a unique opportunity for you to overthrow the regime of the ayatollahs and gain your freedom."

The competing messages highlight the intense pressure surrounding Iran as the conflict deepens.

Authorities inside the country are warning against any dissent, while voices abroad are encouraging Iranians to see the moment as an opportunity for change.

As the war continues and tensions rise, millions of people inside the country are watching events unfold while weighing the risks of what may come next.

Source: BBC

 

[HalBass9]

Is there evidence of their nuclear missile programme?

None, just like there was none before Iraq’s invasion.

Stop taking this @deltexas guy seriously, he is just repeating PDF words. He is just loud.

 

[deltexas]

'Fingers on the trigger': Deadly warnings for Iranians being urged to take action​

When US President Donald Trump began strikes on Iran, killing Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in the process, he told Iranians to "take over your government".

"It will be yours to take," Trump said. "This will be probably your only chance for generations."

But as the war between the US and Israel and Iran has deepened over the past two weeks, Iranians have received sharply different messages about what may happen if they do take action.

Encouragement from figures outside Iran has come as reports have emerged of an increased security and police presence in cities across the country, with officials of the Islamic Republic warning against any possible gatherings or protests.

'We will come after you'
Earlier this week, Iran's Police Chief, Brigadier General Ahmadreza Radan, warned that his forces would treat anyone who takes to the streets "at the enemy's request" as an "enemy".

"All our forces have their fingers on the trigger and are ready to defend the revolution and support their people and their country," Radan added.

Separately, a presenter on Iran's state television Channel Three addressed opponents of the Islamic Republic and those who might protest against the government.

"When the dust of this sedition settles, we will come after you," the presenter said.

"Confiscating your property will be the least of it. We will make you and your families pay, whether you are inside the country or abroad."

And on 8 March, Iran's Prosecutor General Office issued a statement warning Iranians living abroad that if they cooperate with what it described as "hostile enemies", they could face severe punishment.

Citing Iran's law on the "intensification of punishment for espionage and cooperation with Israel and hostile countries", the statement stressed that any "operational activity, intelligence cooperation or espionage" for such countries could result not only in the confiscation of property but also the death penalty.

These threats are a stark reminder of the threats faced by Iranians if they do protest against the government.

During weeks of anti-government protests in December and January, at least 7,000 protesters were killed in an unprecedented crackdown by security forces, human rights groups say.

'Take your destiny'
Meanwhile, figures outside Iran have tried to encourage Iranians to take action against their government, at a precarious moment for the clerical establishment.

On Tuesday, Reza Pahlavi, the exiled son of Iran's last shah, urged people in Iran to obtain essential supplies as soon as possible and wait for what he called his "final call".

In a video message, he said: "For your own safety, leave the streets and remain in your homes. Continue strikes and do not go to work. To show your unity, keep up the night-time chants [against the authorities] with strength."

Pahlavi also addressed members of Iran's military and security forces, saying: "This is the final opportunity to separate yourselves from the forces of repression and join the people."

His call came as the security atmosphere inside Iran has intensified. As an internet blackout has continued, checkpoints have been set up in many neighbourhoods and streets.

On Wednesday, Iran's semi-official Fars News Agency, which is close to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), alleged that Israeli drones had targeted several checkpoints in Tehran. The agency said a number of armed personnel were killed in the attacks and, quoting what it described as unofficial sources, said "around 10" people had died.

Fars said the strikes targeted checkpoints in several districts and cited an "informed source" who claimed the operation was intended to weaken the security presence in Tehran and create conditions for unrest or anti-government protests. The report also alleged the operation involved "monarchists", referring to supporters of Pahlavi.

As the military strikes continue, concerns about civilian casualties and rising tensions in the Middle East have grown. Many observers have warned about the broader consequences of the war for civilian lives, regional security and global energy markets.

Since hostilities began, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has also addressed the people of Iran, saying Israel would "create conditions that will allow you to take your destiny into your own hands".

Netanyahu this week also added: "This is a unique opportunity for you to overthrow the regime of the ayatollahs and gain your freedom."

The competing messages highlight the intense pressure surrounding Iran as the conflict deepens.

Authorities inside the country are warning against any dissent, while voices abroad are encouraging Iranians to see the moment as an opportunity for change.

As the war continues and tensions rise, millions of people inside the country are watching events unfold while weighing the risks of what may come next.

Source: BBC

So this will be both an internal and external war for Iran then.. how do they handle it ??

 

[deltexas]

None, just like there was none before Iraq’s invasion.

Stop taking this @deltexas guy seriously, he is just repeating PDF words. He is just loud.

Yeah, just post fake tweets and posts and be in your barrel hole. Go for it. No comments on why Iran is not allowing full access to inspectors ? And dont compare Iraq here. Iraq invasion was as I said before a total B?S excuse by Bush. Iran is an altogether different matter. Infact Bush should have attacked Iranian nuclear infra instead of invading Iraq.

 

[Rafale Nidhal Fan]

Yeah, just post fake tweets and posts and be in your barrel hole. Go for it. No comments on why Iran is not allowing full access to inspectors ? And dont compare Iraq here. Iraq invasion was as I said before a total B?S excuse by Bush. Iran is an altogether different matter. Infact Bush should have attacked Iranian nuclear infra instead of invading Iraq.

Israel was also barred from getting nuclear weapons, they did so anyway and denied inspectors and form of access

Instead of licking saar boots and drinking their urine. Just do a bit of history research. Fake wannabe American Indian only good for licking boots of saars

 

[deltexas]

Israel was also barred from getting nuclear weapons, they did so anyway and denied inspectors and form of access

Instead of licking saar boots and drinking their urine. Just do a bit of history research. Fake wannabe American Indian only good for licking boots of saars

You should research history better. And your accusations are so ridiculous when you guys are the biggest bootlickers of the Islamic Ummah where the ME Arabs consider you and Ban Muslims 3rd grade outcasts yet you guys shill so much for them.. No mention when millions were killed in Yemen and Syria but here getting all gung ho.. Millions killed and nay , not a peep.

How Israel got nukes ? hers the history before you bootlick the Iranian mullah regime .




Israel is widely believed to possess a nuclear arsenal but maintains a policy of "deliberate ambiguity," neither confirming nor denying its nuclear capabilities
. While not a signatory to the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons (TPNW), Israel has faced long-standing, largely informal, and sometimes quieted pressure from the US to not "introduce" nuclear weapons into the region, particularly after the 1960s.

• 1960s Pressure: Declassified documents reveal that in the 1960s, the US tried to prevent Israel from developing a nuclear program, specifically targeting the Dimona reactor.
• 1969 Nuclear Deal: A tacit agreement was reportedly struck between President Richard Nixon and Prime Minister Golda Meir, where the US accepted Israel's nuclear status as long as it remained invisible, unspoken, and not officially admitted.
• "Nuclear Ambiguity": Israel refuses to join the NPT (Non-Proliferation Treaty) or the TPNW, thus technically staying outside the legal restrictions that would require them to disarm.
• Legal Restrictions: While U.S. law (such as the Glenn Amendment) technically requires the cutoff of aid to countries developing nuclear weapons, these have not been applied to Israel.

Despite these efforts, it is widely accepted by international experts that Israel developed nuclear weapons, with estimations ranging around 90 warheads

 

[HalBass9]

Yeah, just post fake tweets and posts and be in your barrel hole. Go for it. No comments on why Iran is not allowing full access to inspectors ? And dont compare Iraq here. Iraq invasion was as I said before a total B?S excuse by Bush. Iran is an altogether different matter. Infact Bush should have attacked Iranian nuclear infra instead of invading Iraq.

Iran has. Stop lying.

 

[deltexas]

Iran has. Stop lying.

Guess you dont believe in what happened.. Just post fake news and tweets and revel in it, go for it..

 

[HalBass9]

Guess you dont believe in what happened.. Just post fake news and tweets and revel in it, go for it..

Nah! It’s only your PDF guy peddling fake news, and you’re dutifully repeating it like a good boy, expecting everyone outside your echo chamber to swallow it. When people reject it for the obvious reason, because it’s a lie, you all fall back on the same tired tactic, start calling them every name under the sun.

It isn’t early 2000’s, people of the US saved the receipts this time, ain’t no one falling for it, majority of Americans have rejected the lies you can’t stop yourself from repeating because that’s all you have.

 

[HalBass9]

You should research history better. And your accusations are so ridiculous when you guys are the biggest bootlickers of the Islamic Ummah where the ME Arabs consider you and Ban Muslims 3rd grade outcasts yet you guys shill so much for them.. No mention when millions were killed in Yemen and Syria but here getting all gung ho.. Millions killed and nay , not a peep.

How Israel got nukes ? hers the history before you bootlick the Iranian mullah regime .




Israel is widely believed to possess a nuclear arsenal but maintains a policy of "deliberate ambiguity," neither confirming nor denying its nuclear capabilities
. While not a signatory to the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons (TPNW), Israel has faced long-standing, largely informal, and sometimes quieted pressure from the US to not "introduce" nuclear weapons into the region, particularly after the 1960s.

• 1960s Pressure: Declassified documents reveal that in the 1960s, the US tried to prevent Israel from developing a nuclear program, specifically targeting the Dimona reactor.
• 1969 Nuclear Deal: A tacit agreement was reportedly struck between President Richard Nixon and Prime Minister Golda Meir, where the US accepted Israel's nuclear status as long as it remained invisible, unspoken, and not officially admitted.
• "Nuclear Ambiguity": Israel refuses to join the NPT (Non-Proliferation Treaty) or the TPNW, thus technically staying outside the legal restrictions that would require them to disarm.
• Legal Restrictions: While U.S. law (such as the Glenn Amendment) technically requires the cutoff of aid to countries developing nuclear weapons, these have not been applied to Israel.

Despite these efforts, it is widely accepted by international experts that Israel developed nuclear weapons, with estimations ranging around 90 warheads

You genius, he said Israel has them.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Yeah , not going good for you I guess lol ! Getting tough for you to afford gas now bcos of the war lol ! Maybe if you and your guys had asked Iran not to escalate.

And you seem to have an unhealthy obsession for cabbies and stuff like this and your bootlicking and shilling here . 70k posts here and 69k of those are bootlicking & shilling, yet you get called a k***ir. Why oh why ?? Makes me think you are one of those auto drivers in Delhi that have to pander to a peaceful religion for your rozgori lol ! Its ok dude... Thats why your memes are all those auto driver memes like this and those other cycle memes bcos they are the ones who get these. Nothing wrong dude in being an auto driver I guess using those gas cylinders, dont be ashamed lol !



Bond , James Bond.

Suraj, truck driver Suraj.
Viru , auto driver Viru. Aka Viru Abdul Pasha

Can someone explain what I did wrong? I just shared a tweet and tagged Mr. @deltexas, but he is attacking and abusing me as if the guy in the video is actually him. Had I even posted an emoji of a , you would have immediately edited my post. Why is there no consistency?

@BouncerGuy @The Bald Eagle @Cricket Warrior

 

[deltexas]

You genius, he said Israel has them.

And yeah you Einstein,the post explains how Israel got them. Comprehension not your strongest suit I guess?

 

[deltexas]

Can someone explain what I did wrong? I just shared a tweet and tagged Mr. @deltexas, but he is attacking and abusing me as if the guy in the video is actually him. Had I even posted an emoji of a , you would have immediately edited my post. Why is there no consistency?

@BouncerGuy @The Bald Eagle @Cricket Warrior

Yeah you post and insinuate cabbies stiff, pendus stiff , useless stuff and so when someone responds back, you get defensive. Non stop andhbhakts , this bhakts blah blah . So no need to get defensive and you can have a rational conversation.

On topic, Iran is making life difficult for itself here.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

You genius, he said Israel has them.

@deltexas gets triggered in seconds and starts abusing people online, which he obviously wouldn't dare do face-to-face. Classic keyboard tough guy. What a wuss.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Yeah you post and insinuate cabbies stiff, pendus stiff , useless stuff and so when someone responds back, you get defensive. Non stop andhbhakts , this bhakts blah blah . So no need to get defensive and you can have a rational conversation.

Where did I name you? Chor ki daadhi mein tinka? I tagged you and you immediately thought that guy was you? Aur gaali apne baap ko diya kar, main shuru ho gaya toh rone baith jayega.

 

[deltexas]

@deltexas gets triggered in seconds and starts abusing people online, which he obviously wouldn't dare do face-to-face. Classic keyboard tough guy. What a wuss.

I never abuse anyone fyi.. you post stuff and then get defensive. See you are the one saying face to face stuff etc.. So many times you post derogatory stuff on others like this.

 

[deltexas]

Where did I name you? Chor ki daadhi mein tinka? I tagged you and you immediately thought that guy was you? Aur gaali apne baap ko diya kar, main shuru ho gaya toh rone baith jayega.

See again you using fowl language.. thats the difference. You get triggered when people respond and then complain. Par for the course

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

This is the power of Modiji and India..... India's diplomacy at high point..... India have strong relationship with US&Israel as well as with Iran

If they had any sort of power or influence they would have stopped the war before it even begun.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I never abuse anyone fyi.. you post stuff and then get defensive. See you are the one saying face to face stuff etc.. So many times you post derogatory stuff on others like this.

Just because the stuff I post doesn't align with your thinking, it becomes derogatory? Can you elaborate what's derogatory in that? May be mods can you help you?

 

[deltexas]

If they had any sort of power or influence they would have stopped the war before it even begun.

Nobody in the world can oppose the US and that is a reality. And that includes China. Whether tgats right or wrong, thats a different discussion altogether

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

See again you using fowl language.. thats the difference. You get triggered when people respond and then complain. Par for the course

So you can abuse me and call me names when I just tagged you and said nothing. But when I start using the same tone, you run away. Mods are actually saving you. Because if I post the same stuff they will immediately edit it, but they let lulloos like you post whatever they want. That's not consistency.

 

[deltexas]

Just because the stuff I post doesn't align with your thinking, it becomes derogatory? Can you elaborate what's derogatory in that? May be mods can you help you?

Your post 4338 above .. everyone can see. Baap galli etc etc.. thats got nothing to do with my alignment but just derogatory stuff from you.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Nobody in the world can oppose the US and that is a reality. And that includes China. Whether tgats right or wrong, thats a different discussion altogether

So then what use is your self-proclaimed power and diplomacy then?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Yeah , not going good for you I guess lol ! Getting tough for you to afford gas now bcos of the war lol ! Maybe if you and your guys had asked Iran not to escalate.

And you seem to have an unhealthy obsession for cabbies and stuff like this and your bootlicking and shilling here . 70k posts here and 69k of those are bootlicking & shilling, yet you get called a k***ir. Why oh why ?? Makes me think you are one of those auto drivers in Delhi that have to pander to a peaceful religion for your rozgori lol ! Its ok dude... Thats why your memes are all those auto driver memes like this and those other cycle memes bcos they are the ones who get these. Nothing wrong dude in being an auto driver I guess using those gas cylinders, dont be ashamed lol !



Bond , James Bond.

Suraj, truck driver Suraj.
Viru , auto driver Viru. Aka Viru Abdul Pasha

Your post 4338 above .. everyone can see. Baap galli etc etc.. thats got nothing to do with my alignment but just derogatory stuff from you.

May be read your own post first. How you got triggered when I just tagged you. I said literally nothing in that post. If you are going to use that tone with me, then get ready to take the replies in the same tone back.

 

[deltexas]

So you can abuse me and call me names when I just tagged you and said nothing. But when I start using the same tone you run away. Mods are actually saving you. Because if I post the same stuff they will immediately edit it, but they let lulloos like you post whatever they want. That's not consistency.

Again I never abuse anyone. Disagreements sure thats why we have a forum. And yeah, have a lot of respect for the mods here. Posters can agree to disagree and have a discussion here sure but no place for nonstop derogatory drivel.

So, can we discuss the topic here.. which is Iran getting attacked.. and the consequences for Iran and the greater ME. What's your opinion on it?

 

[emranabbas]

Dude is quoting idf sources and posting here non stop 24 hours. Then blabbering it's genuine plz believe.

He's posting pro-Israel bias sources and celebrating the deaths of Muslims. Israel controls the narrative, especially when X is owned by Elon Musk.

Israel has also forbidden videos of destruction from being recorded and has reportedly threatened its own citizens with up to 5 years in prison for sharing such footage, all to make it look like they are winning while they are actually getting battered.

I'm a bit shocked at the mods on this forum for allowing people to run Israeli propaganda on their forum especially @BouncerGuy who is quick to label everyone a Israeli agent but turns a blind eye when someone posts Israeli propaganda

all bias Israeli sources should be banned on this forum and only allow neutral sources so everyone gets the true picture.
but then again there are no neutral sources most like aljazeera are working for the Zionists only press tv is genuine

 

[HalBass9]

And yeah you Einstein,the post explains how Israel got them. Comprehension not your strongest suit I guess?

Everyone knows how they got them and they have them.

Are you on Epstein file just like PDF?

 

[deltexas]

So then what use is your self-proclaimed power and diplomacy then?

Who is " your" here?
And US power is not self proclaimed. It is a reality. For alll the gung ho talk Europe does jack and Zelensky is finding that out.

 

[Red-Indian]

Iran has. Stop lying.

I don't think there's any doubt Iran has tried to play silly games on allowing full access to the inspectors. They probably thought they were trying to be clever and keeping themselves some hope of eventually developing a program. Even so, the IAEA Director General felt comfortable enough saying that "the IAEA has not found evidence of an active, systematic plan to construct a nuclear weapon."

The issue is that Trump and Netanyahu have offered NO evidence why they believe that in spite of inspections, assassinations, bombings etc., that Iran is still on verge of a nuclear weapon and that immediate action is required. In fact they like @deltexas have said nothing but 'we can't take a chance so we need to risk a global economic crisis NOW!'

 

[deltexas]

He's posting pro-Israel bias sources and celebrating the deaths of Muslims. Israel controls the narrative, especially when X is owned by Elon Musk.

Israel has also forbidden videos of destruction from being recorded and has reportedly threatened its own citizens with up to 5 years in prison for sharing such footage, all to make it look like they are winning while they are actually getting battered.

I'm a bit shocked at the mods on this forum for allowing people to run Israeli propaganda on their forum especially @BouncerGuy who is quick to label everyone a Israeli agent but turns a blind eye when someone posts Israeli propaganda

all bias Israeli sources should be banned on this forum and only allow neutral sources so everyone gets the true picture.
but then again there are no neutral sources most like aljazeera are working for the Zionists only press tv is genuine

Dude, where did I post any false sources or celebrating anything? My posts history should show you that I am against any war and leaders need to come to the table and discuss. Leaders are always fine in wars, its the common man that suffers always.

Where is the Israeli propaganda I am posting? If discussion of what's happening in reality is propaganda, then I dont know what to say.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Again I never abuse anyone. Disagreements sure thats why we have a forum. And yeah, have a lot of respect for the mods here. Posters can agree to disagree and have a discussion here sure but no place for nonstop derogatory drivel.

So, can we discuss the topic here.. which is Iran getting attacked.. and the consequences for Iran and the greater ME. What's your opinion on it?

I was already posting about the topic until you started throwing your toys out of the auto. What a wuss.

 

[emranabbas]

https://twitter.com/x/status/20320670457102991

 

[HalBass9]

I don't think there's any doubt Iran has tried to play silly games on allowing full access to the inspectors. They probably thought they were trying to be clever and keeping themselves some hope of eventually developing a program. Even so, the IAEA Director General felt comfortable enough saying that "the IAEA has not found evidence of an active, systematic plan to construct a nuclear weapon."

The issue is that Trump and Netanyahu have offered NO evidence why they believe that in spite of inspections, assassinations, bombings etc., that Iran is still on verge of a nuclear weapon and that immediate action is required. In fact they like @deltexas have said nothing but 'we can't take a chance so we need to risk a global economic crisis NOW!'

Iran was fully complying until Trump decided to end the deal in his first term and started killing Iranian officials.

 

[deltexas]

I don't think there's any doubt Iran has tried to play silly games on allowing full access to the inspectors. They probably thought they were trying to be clever and keeping themselves some hope of eventually developing a program. Even so, the IAEA Director General felt comfortable enough saying that "the IAEA has not found evidence of an active, systematic plan to construct a nuclear weapon."

The issue is that Trump and Netanyahu have offered NO evidence why they believe that in spite of inspections, assassinations, bombings etc., that Iran is still on verge of a nuclear weapon and that immediate action is required. In fact they like @deltexas have said nothing but 'we can't take a chance so we need to risk a global economic crisis NOW!'

Again its a risk thats not acceptable at any %. Thats the crux of the issue. Even if it is not completely eliminated, if the program is set back 15 to 20 years , think that is the main goal of the US giv now.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

@deltexas

 

[deltexas]

I was already posting about the topic until you started throwing your toys out of the auto. What a wuss.

Okay, so what's your opinion on the war? Will the Iranian regime crush the US and Israel? Will they get a nuclear bomb. What's your take?

 

[emranabbas]

Dude, where did I post any false sources or celebrating anything? My posts history should show you that I am against any war and leaders need to come to the table and discuss. Leaders are always fine in wars, its the common man that suffers always.

Where is the Israeli propaganda I am posting? If discussion of what's happening in reality is propaganda, then I dont know what to say.

nobody is talking about you so shut up and go back to sleep.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Okay, so what's your opinion on the war? Will the Iranian regime crush the US and Israel? Will they get a nuclear bomb. What's your take?

nobody is talking about you so shut up and go back to sleep.

Same reply as @emranabbas. Chal nikal.

 

[HalBass9]

Again its a risk thats not acceptable at any %. Thats the crux of the issue. Even if it is not completely eliminated, if the program is set back 15 to 20 years , think that is the main goal of the US giv now.

Dumbest goal and only a person who is PDF could ever try to achieve that unwanted goal.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

@deltexas

 

[emranabbas]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2032067045710299142

 

[deltexas]

nobody is talking about you so shut up and go back to sleep.

Easy to be an abusive keyboard warrior isn't it instead of having a civil discussion even if folks disagree?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Who is " your" here?
And US power is not self proclaimed. It is a reality. For alll the gung ho talk Europe does jack and Zelensky is finding that out.

You were talking about the power of India and Modi. Do you suffer from Azheimer's?

 

[HalBass9]

Easy to be an abusive keyboard warrior isn't it instead of having a civil discussion even if folks disagree?

Whenever someone calls out your immature comments, you immediately label them an “Islamist terrorist.” That doesn’t just make you loud, it also exposes your bigotry.

You repeated that 'Ummah' talking point too? lol

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Yeah , not going good for you I guess lol ! Getting tough for you to afford gas now bcos of the war lol ! Maybe if you and your guys had asked Iran not to escalate.

And you seem to have an unhealthy obsession for cabbies and stuff like this and your bootlicking and shilling here . 70k posts here and 69k of those are bootlicking & shilling, yet you get called a k***ir. Why oh why ?? Makes me think you are one of those auto drivers in Delhi that have to pander to a peaceful religion for your rozgori lol ! Its ok dude... Thats why your memes are all those auto driver memes like this and those other cycle memes bcos they are the ones who get these. Nothing wrong dude in being an auto driver I guess using those gas cylinders, dont be ashamed lol !



Bond , James Bond.

Suraj, truck driver Suraj.
Viru , auto driver Viru. Aka Viru Abdul Pasha

Easy to be an abusive keyboard warrior isn't it instead of having a civil discussion even if folks disagree?

@emranabbas, read his post and learn how a civil discussion should be done. That guy got so triggered by a light-hearted post that he started calling me names, as if the chaiwala were his father.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

You were talking about the power of India and Modi. Do you suffer from Azheimer's?

He can dance pretty well though.

 

[deltexas]

Dumbest goal and only a person who is PDF could ever try to achieve that unwanted goal.

Maybe . But a nuclear armed Iran is a life long threat that the US just cant agree to take on at any cost even if its a 5% chance.

 

[Red-Indian]

Iran was fully complying until Trump decided to end the deal in his first term and started killing Iranian officials.

Nope. Even then the IAEA inspectors were not totally satisfied. I'll try to find the link but there were complaints about lack of frankness, co-operation etc.

Also while Netanyahu's 'Iran Lied' speech had a lot of bombast, I seem to remember that the stolen documentation showed that Iran still had hopes and plans of reviving the program however impractical. Maintaining 60% enriched Uranium was stupid. Not enough enrichment for a bomb but too much for a civilian program. Continuing to enrich was even stupider - when it was clear Israel and the US would never taking it lying down.

It's pretty irrelevant though. They had so many barriers to clear before being able to make a bomb that the whole thing was academic. Trump just fell for Netanyahu's absurd paranoia.

 

[Red-Indian]

Again its a risk thats not acceptable at any %. Thats the crux of the issue. Even if it is not completely eliminated, if the program is set back 15 to 20 years , think that is the main goal of the US giv now.

Do you have any scientist who's willing to come out to say that Iran was on the verge of a bomb and now has been put back 15-20 years or are you relying on Trump's words? If so, are they more believable now than they were in June of last year when he claimed he had completely obliterated Iran's Nuclear program?

 

[deltexas]

He can dance pretty well though.

The world is dancing to Trump I guess.

 

[deltexas]

Do you have any scientist who's willing to come out to say that Iran was on the verge of a bomb and now has been put back 15-20 years or are you relying on Trump's words? If so, are they more believable now than they were in June of last year when he claimed he had completely obliterated Iran's Nuclear program?

Nobody knows 100% because they don't have full access to all the nuclear sites. And yeah for sure persistent sanctions and repeated nuclear infrastructure damage will set back the nuclear program of forget about Iran, of any country even incl countries like China.. and compared to last year, maybe US is privy to new additional info.. its for them to answer..

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Nope. Even then the IAEA inspectors were not totally satisfied. I'll try to find the link but there were complaints about lack of frankness, co-operation etc.

Also while Netanyahu's 'Iran Lied' speech had a lot of bombast, I seem to remember that the stolen documentation showed that Iran still had hopes and plans of reviving the program however impractical. Maintaining 60% enriched Uranium was stupid. Not enough enrichment for a bomb but too much for a civilian program. Continuing to enrich was even stupider - when it was clear Israel and the US would never taking it lying down.

It's pretty irrelevant though. They had so many barriers to clear before being able to make a bomb that the whole thing was academic. Trump just fell for Netanyahu's absurd paranoia.

What is actually wrong with Iran potentially pursuing nuclear weapon capability? What makes anyone think they would use it more destructively than any other nation that has the capability? If anything you could argue it's more dangerous that israel has the capacity to use one. There's even talk they might do it in this conflict.

 

[deltexas]

Nope. Even then the IAEA inspectors were not totally satisfied. I'll try to find the link but there were complaints about lack of frankness, co-operation etc.

Also while Netanyahu's 'Iran Lied' speech had a lot of bombast, I seem to remember that the stolen documentation showed that Iran still had hopes and plans of reviving the program however impractical. Maintaining 60% enriched Uranium was stupid. Not enough enrichment for a bomb but too much for a civilian program. Continuing to enrich was even stupider - when it was clear Israel and the US would never taking it lying down.

It's pretty irrelevant though. They had so many barriers to clear before being able to make a bomb that the whole thing was academic. Trump just fell for Netanyahu's absurd paranoia.

Also it just gives a valid excuse to US. Why even enrich 60%? Iran was always on thin ice after that. And Iran was not completely transparent either. I think they were.foolish and didn't expect the US to attack them in a meaningful way at all and got blindsided.

 

[deltexas]

What is actually wrong with Iran potentially pursuing nuclear weapon capability? What makes anyone think they would use it more destructively than any other nation that has the capability? If anything you could argue it's more dangerous that israel has the capacity to use one. There's even talk they might do it in this conflict.

Well, thats why US attacked Iran.. You and the Islamic world think whats wrong? Other countries think otherwise?. How to decide? Well, the US is showing how and Iran can respond accordingly.

 

[HalBass9]

Nope. Even then the IAEA inspectors were not totally satisfied. I'll try to find the link but there were complaints about lack of frankness, co-operation etc.

Also while Netanyahu's 'Iran Lied' speech had a lot of bombast, I seem to remember that the stolen documentation showed that Iran still had hopes and plans of reviving the program however impractical. Maintaining 60% enriched Uranium was stupid. Not enough enrichment for a bomb but too much for a civilian program. Continuing to enrich was even stupider - when it was clear Israel and the US would never taking it lying down.

It's pretty irrelevant though. They had so many barriers to clear before being able to make a bomb that the whole thing was academic. Trump just fell for Netanyahu's absurd paranoia.

You’re clutching at straws. At no point Iran was developing weapons after that Obama's deal, at no point other than Nethanyahu has any issue, Nethanyahu had been trying to bomb Iran even before Iran developed a nuclear program. PDF had no choice but to comply for his owner, he did in his first term, he is doing it in his second term.

 

[deltexas]

Whenever someone calls out your immature comments, you immediately label them an “Islamist terrorist.” That doesn’t just make you loud, it also exposes your bigotry.

You repeated that 'Ummah' talking point too? lol

In response to your constant nonstop Zionist zionist hindutva bhakt bigotry. A case of the pot calling the kettle black.

 

[globetrotter]

Some social medialists here not admitting..... but various news agencies around the world confirmed that 20 Indian ships/vessels/ tankers are allowed to pass thru Hormuz by Iran

 

[deltexas]

Do you have any scientist who's willing to come out to say that Iran was on the verge of a bomb and now has been put back 15-20 years or are you relying on Trump's words? If so, are they more believable now than they were in June of last year when he claimed he had completely obliterated Iran's Nuclear program?

Post 4375 & 4378 answers your question.

 

[HalBass9]

In response to your constant nonstop Zionist zionist hindutva bhakt bigotry. A case of the pot calling the kettle black.

Stop being a cattle.

 

[Red-Indian]

What is actually wrong with Iran potentially pursuing nuclear weapon capability? What makes anyone think they would use it more destructively than any other nation that has the capability? If anything you could argue it's more dangerous that israel has the capacity to use one. There's even talk they might do it in this conflict.

Nah...I'm very against Iran getting nuclear weapon capability. I see the hypocrisy in that yes India has a weapon and so do a bunch of countries including Pakistan and Israel but I'd rather be a hypocrite than an idiot who sticks to principle. Just like I believe everyone should have the right of free speech but if a certain guy tends to keep screaming abuse at me regularly, I'm hypocrite enough to hope the law shuts him up.

You may be right that it's not clear that they would use it destructively. But I'd rather not take the chance. Give them every incentive to not want it but if they insist on continuing to try to get it, the world has to act.

I'd rather Israel not have it either but I don't see a practical way to make them surrender everything they have now. I do see a practical way to stop Iran from getting one though and making things worse and more on the edge than they are now.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Well, thats why US attacked Iran.. You and the Islamic world think whats wrong? Other countries think otherwise?. How to decide? Well, the US is showing how and Iran can respond accordingly.

I can't make any sense of that. Were you even answering the questions I asked or did you quote me by mistake?

 

[hur rizvi]

What is actually wrong with Iran potentially pursuing nuclear weapon capability? What makes anyone think they would use it more destructively than any other nation that has the capability? If anything you could argue it's more dangerous that israel has the capacity to use one. There's even talk they might do it in this conflict.

There are people (right here in this thread) who would even justify Israel’s use of nuclear weapons.

Any means whether they involve killing little girls, killing civilians, tanking global economy etc. are justifiable for these maniacs.

 

[deltexas]

Whenever someone calls out your immature comments, you immediately label them an “Islamist terrorist.” That doesn’t just make you loud, it also exposes your bigotry.

You repeated that 'Ummah' talking point too? lol

Again where did I label anyone a terrorist? What post? An overwhelming cause of religious terrorism worldwide is because of 1 religion and if you choose to state otherwise , you are naive or simply denying it and thats fine as thats your opinion

 

[HalBass9]

Nah...I'm very against Iran getting nuclear weapon capability. I see the hypocrisy in that yes India has a weapon and so do a bunch of countries including Pakistan and Israel but I'd rather be a hypocrite than an idiot who sticks to principle. Just like I believe everyone should have the right of free speech but if a certain guy tends to keep screaming abuse at me regularly, I'm hypocrite enough to hope the law shuts him up.

You may be right that it's not clear that they would use it destructively. But I'd rather not take the chance. Give them every incentive to not want it but if they insist on continuing to try to get it, the world has to act.

I'd rather Israel not have it either but I don't see a practical way to make them surrender everything they have now. I do see a practical way to stop Iran from getting one though and making things worse and more on the edge than they are now.

But Iran did not have a nuclear weapon nor they were making it.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Nah...I'm very against Iran getting nuclear weapon capability. I see the hypocrisy in that yes India has a weapon and so do a bunch of countries including Pakistan and Israel but I'd rather be a hypocrite than an idiot who sticks to principle. Just like I believe everyone should have the right of free speech but if a certain guy tends to keep screaming abuse at me regularly, I'm hypocrite enough to hope the law shuts him up.

You may be right that it's not clear that they would use it destructively. But I'd rather not take the chance. Give them every incentive to not want it but if they insist on continuing to try to get it, the world has to act.

I'd rather Israel not have it either but I don't see a practical way to make them surrender everything they have now. I do see a practical way to stop Iran from getting one though and making things worse and more on the edge than they are now.

All that shows is that you have been swayed by israeli propaganda. Why would Iran want to nuke anyone? Despite so many countries aquiring capability, the only country that ever did that was the USA and that was when they probably considered Japanese as less than human.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

The world is dancing to Trump I guess.

Putting your mujra aside, why is it taking so long for Donald Trump to defeat Iran in the war?

 

[HalBass9]

Again where did I label anyone a terrorist? What post? An overwhelming cause of religious terrorism worldwide is because of 1 religion and if you choose to state otherwise , you are naive or simply denying it and thats fine as thats your opinion

Right.

 

[deltexas]

I can't make any sense of that. Were you even answering the questions I asked or did you quote me by mistake?

In response to your - what is wrong with Iran getting a nuclear weapon?

 

[emranabbas]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2032086542408139059

 

[deltexas]

Putting your mujra aside, why is it taking so long for Donald Trump to defeat Iran in the war?

Yeah it was being done by the iranian mullahs and Khamenei and they got smoked ! Their leader was killed wntore top brass has been decapitated and you still want more ?? Well Trump has promised more.

I think US has achieved its objective and should halt the war and put new sanctions on Iran.

 

[deltexas]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2032086542408139059

Here's a leader who got inaugurated with his photo cut out because he was scared US would take him out at the inauguration. Make of that what you want.

 

[Red-Indian]

You’re clutching at straws. At no point Iran was developing weapons after that Obama's deal, at no point other than Nethanyahu has any issue, Nethanyahu had been trying to bomb Iran even before Iran developed a nuclear program. PDF had no choice but to comply for his owner, he did in his first term, he is doing it in his second term.

@deltexas is a Trumpian koolaid drinker but even broken clocks are right once every 12 hours. Yes Trump and the US were idiots to withdraw from a pretty good nuclear deal but if Iran thought enriching to 60% would scare them and bring them back to the table and , they were utter nincompoops in charge of the country.

Why even have a nuclear program - even civilian? They have no shortage of oil for power generation. Saudi Arabia doesn't as far as I know. UAE only just got one.

Trump's a buffoon but his buffoon counterparts in Iran (I suppose Khameini and the IRGC) gave him plenty of opportunity and encouragement to exercise his buffoonery and be manipulated by Netanyahu.

 

[deltexas]

All that shows is that you have been swayed by israeli propaganda. Why would Iran want to nuke anyone? Despite so many countries aquiring capability, the only country that ever did that was the USA and that was when they probably considered Japanese as less than human.

Iranian leadership has been on record for repeatedly saying they will wipe US and Israel off the map. And nuclear weapons are the only way to do it. Whether that threat is credible or not is open for discussion and US is acting on an an abundance of caution and gives them an excuse honestly to attack Iranian nuclear infrastructure even of its rudimentary which it probably is.

 

[Red-Indian]

All that shows is that you have been swayed by israeli propaganda. Why would Iran want to nuke anyone? Despite so many countries aquiring capability, the only country that ever did that was the USA and that was when they probably considered Japanese as less than human.

Fair enough then. I suppose your solution is to hand out nuclear weapons like candy in the fond hope that no one will be stupid enough to use them since no one has for 80 years.

Not falling for that. We need to fight tooth and nail to stop every new country from getting them. I don't care if it's Iran or Canada or the f****g apostles of peace in New Zealand.

 

[globetrotter]

Iran' new learder issued warning to those countries to shut US bases immediately.. else Iran will not allow their ships/tankers to pass Harmuz....

This is the reason Iran allowing Indian Ships/tankers/ vessels.... In the past on many occasions US govt. appealed/requested India to host US army and their Navy fleets, but India always denied

 

[deltexas]

Er

@deltexas is a Trumpian koolaid drinker but even broken clocks are right once every 12 hours. Yes Trump and the US were idiots to withdraw from a pretty good nuclear deal but if Iran thought enriching to 60% would scare them and bring them back to the table and , they were utter nincompoops in charge of the country.

Why even have a nuclear program - even civilian? They have no shortage of oil for power generation. Saudi Arabia doesn't as far as I know. UAE only just got one.

Trump's a buffoon but his buffoon counterparts in Iran (I suppose Khameini and the IRGC) gave him plenty of opportunity and encouragement to exercise his buffoonery and be manipulated by Netanyahu.

I explained to you in a.post why people in the Us voted for Trump. Its a binary thing unlike other Democracies. So if somebody voted for Kamala, they are a Kamala koolaid drinker?? Of thats the case just because you voted for someone, you are automatically his or her koolaid drinker?

 

[emranabbas]

Here's a leader who got inaugurated with his photo cut out because he was scared US would take him out at the inauguration. Make of that what you want.

don't worry he ain't a leader who goes around doing erotic dances for Netanyahu or calling Israel the father of Indians or a leader of a country like India who Americans and Israeli's calls slaves.