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Iran names Khamenei's hardline son Mojtaba Khamenei as new supreme leader [Update@ Post 3541]

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The fact that there is so much noise to me about Kharg indicates to me that Kharg is not the target. It's not defensible as it's a very flat island and currently has no defenses against missile or air assault.

This war is going to be won on the Straits of Hormuz. Either Iran holds it or our armed forces shove the Iranians off the Straits at which point the Iranian regime will be forced to sue for peace.

I doubt it's the plan, but it would be easy to simply bomb Kharg and leave the Iranians without the ability to pay for more missiles and drones.

I think the Pakistani military is silent because all the CPEC supply chains are running through Pakistan and onward to Iran and they're getting paid for that. The Chinese investment in Gwadar as a direct access to the Indian ocean is proving wise. After this war is over it's going to be the only way Iran can export oil unless they can convince Trump to back off (he's not backing off).
 
straighttalk said:
USbisbeinning militsryw ar decisively and pulverizing Iran..there is 0 comparison to what Iran is retaliatnf and what is has done. But since this was a useless war that is not needed and Iran is hitting the economic choke points and it has political fall outs...us is losing the political and economic war. If they want boots on the ground...us will destroy Iran but they will take heavy casualties. That's the reason he wants a ceasefire and Iran has nothing left to lose beyond the regime.
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In the same way they destroyed Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan? Where they left humiliatingly?

For the first Iraq War, the US took 6 months to amass the troops to mount a ground based attack. Iran is much bigger and more dangerous than Iraq with Russian and Chinese backing, so they'd need 3 times more forces.

Let's assume you understand logistics and are not a total ignorant armchair troll. How do they amass they volume of troops and set up the communication and supply lines in the next 12 months? I'm not asking if the US can defeat the Iranians militarily, I'm asking you to answer the simple question of logistics.

What by the way is the American goal with this war?

If it was to destroy or capture the nuclear material - Fail
If it was to destroy the Iranian military, air force and navy - Fail ( planes are getting knocked down, the army controls the country and the US are hiding their carriers 500 miles away)
If it was to have a regime change - Fail (One Mullah has replaced another and he's more hardline).

On top of that:

The gulf states have realised US bases are not protection but rather bait so Fail.
The Strait of Hormuz is closed and causing huge economic problems everywhere so Fail.

This entire war is a catastrophic FAIL.
 
globetrotter said:
If you love Iran, go to Iran - Pakistan army chief Asif Muni issues stern warning to Iran lovers in Pakistan
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Pretty stupid statement. It's not love for Iran, rather a liking and a preference to the evil on the other side. If everyone did go, then there'd be no one left in Pakistan for these guys to rule over.
 
bones said:
In the same way they destroyed Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan? Where they left humiliatingly?

For the first Iraq War, the US took 6 months to amass the troops to mount a ground based attack. Iran is much bigger and more dangerous than Iraq with Russian and Chinese backing, so they'd need 3 times more forces.

Let's assume you understand logistics and are not a total ignorant armchair troll. How do they amass they volume of troops and set up the communication and supply lines in the next 12 months? I'm not asking if the US can defeat the Iranians militarily, I'm asking you to answer the simple question of logistics.

What by the way is the American goal with this war?

If it was to destroy or capture the nuclear material - Fail
If it was to destroy the Iranian military, air force and navy - Fail ( planes are getting knocked down, the army controls the country and the US are hiding their carriers 500 miles away)
If it was to have a regime change - Fail (One Mullah has replaced another and he's more hardline).

On top of that:

The gulf states have realised US bases are not protection but rather bait so Fail.
The Strait of Hormuz is closed and causing huge economic problems everywhere so Fail.

This entire war is a catastrophic FAIL.
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War has been a failure for USA. The whole point of them getting involved was regime change. Otherwise Israel could have bombed instead. Iran lost too, there’s nothing that can be gained for them this war.

The Arab gulf nations obviously lost due to economic hits and being involved in a war they didn’t even want. Qatar especially.

Israel is probably the happiest party which would take any chance to get rid of Iran’s military/weapons even without a regime change. And Israel hasn’t faced much casualties. They don’t care about whether or not annihilating Iran’s military totally or not. They’d take even 5% happily, anything is good enough for them even if more the better.

The war shouldn’t have happened but I’d much have preferred USA to stay as the negotiator. If Israel bombed USA tells them when to stop. The fact USA has actively got involved is creating this disaster situation where a ceasefire is difficult. And even Israel think they can now run amok like the oil fields attack because USA is involved too.
 
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bones said:
Pretty stupid statement. It's not love for Iran, rather a liking and a preference to the evil on the other side. If everyone did go, then there'd be no one left in Pakistan for these guys to rule over.
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It was a two and a half hour meeting, and people are picking out a five-second clip and acting like that explains everything.

What’s also was being discussed during the meeting was some Shia ulemas was pushing the to get involved in a wider war, even talking about using missiles against Israel and the US.

If anything like that ever happened, the response would be massive. So the real question is are Pakistan actually ready for a long war over something that isn’t even our issue?

it would affect ordinary people, the economy, safety, everything. Lives would be at risk, and the country could face serious damage we have already seen what's happening in Iran.

people expect Pakistan to step in everywhere, but how many times has Iran supported Pakistan vs India? where were Iranian missiles vs India last may?

also are the Pakistan people ready to risk their lives and their country for Iran who has never ever supported us in anything?
 
bones said:
Pretty stupid statement. It's not love for Iran, rather a liking and a preference to the evil on the other side. If everyone did go, then there'd be no one left in Pakistan for these guys to rule over.
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99.99% of the stuff sanghis write are stupid/misinformed in nature. :yk
 
m.shah said:
What a meltdown from these child killers. Iran should hit them harder and get them taste their own medicine.
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How many more of these Arad type missiles do they have?

Looks like the ACE cards are out now. Isreal did this to themselves.
 
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