Iranian forces fire mortar shells into Pakistan

[Reddy]

GWADAR: Iranian forces fired about half a dozen mortar shells into Pakistani territory near the Panjgur border in Balochistan on Saturday, according to official sources.

The shells were fired by Iranian border guards without provocation. The shells landed and exploded in an open space in the Parako area, a small village in Panjgur district.

Security officials said that mortar shells were fired in the early hours of the day, adding that no casualty was reported.

However, panic gripped the people of the area when they woke up to loud explosions.

Levies and Frontier Corps personnel rushed to the site where the shells had landed to collect evidence. The Panjgur deputy commissioner informed the officials concerned in Quetta about the incident.

Iranian forces have violated Pakistani territory with frequency in recent months and Islamabad has repeatedly lodged protests with Tehran over border violations.

Pakistan shares a 900km porous border with Iran and the two countries decided in 2014 to boost intelligence coordination to wipe out terrorists from the region.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1395960/iranian-forces-fire-mortar-shells-into-panjgur

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Pakistan is so unlucky. If it’s not India, or Afghanistan it’s Iran taking part in cross border firing but of course each and every time the firing is “without provocation”.

 

[King-Misbah]

Pakistan is so unlucky. If it’s not India, or Afghanistan it’s Iran taking part in cross border firing but of course each and every time the firing is “without provocation”.

India is as unlucky :/ Issues with China, Pakistan and Bangladesh! Heck even Sri Lanka!

 

[PakLFC]

It seems a free for all now. Everyone is bashing everyone. We have Pak, Iran and Afghanistan at each others throats. On the other hand India and China are eye balling each other. The LOC as always remains red hot. Was watching the movie 2012 from many years back with the planet being destroyed by fire balls from the sky. That could be humanity's future.

 

[akki]

India is as unlucky :/ Issues with China, Pakistan and Bangladesh! Heck even Sri Lanka!

Sri lanka or bangladesh ???? We can arm twist them at our will any day. Its only china or pakistan. But pakistan has issues with india,bangladesh, afghanistan, usa, iran.....if i forget some other then do mention it.

 

[Varun]

So what's the beef that Iran has with Pakistan?

Is it because of the latter's close relations with KSA?

 

[DW44]

So what's the beef that Iran has with Pakistan?

Is it because of the latter's close relations with KSA?

An entire proxy war was fought on Pakistani soil between Saudi and Iranian funded groups on Pakistani soil in the 80s and early 90s.

 

[cricketjoshila]

An entire proxy war was fought on Pakistani soil between Saudi and Iranian funded groups on Pakistani soil in the 80s and early 90s.

And why is Pakistan willing to be the battleground of all proxies?

 

[King-Misbah]

Sri lanka or bangladesh ???? We can arm twist them at our will any day. Its only china or pakistan. But pakistan has issues with india,bangladesh, afghanistan, usa, iran.....if i forget some other then do mention it.

We all know about how the Indian forces have killed poor Bengalis on the border. And supported different Tamil groups in Sri Lanka.

 

[DW44]

And why is Pakistan willing to be the battleground of all proxies?

Because the Saudis said so. This happened in the immediate aftermath of Bhutto essentially selling Pakistan to the Saudis. During this time Pakistan actually passed laws that came straight from Riyadh. There's a reason the Saudi proxies still exist and are stronger than ever while the Iranian ones are long gone. Pakistan played favorites.

 

[Markhor]

What does it say about your foreign policy when you have poor relations with not one, two but three neighbouring countries.

 

[Reddy]

What does it say about your foreign policy when you have poor relations with not one, two but three neighbouring countries.

And most of the people here will blame Nawaz Sharif and the civilian Government when the foreign policy is controlled by the military. Dawn leaks said it all, Nawaz wanted the opposite of this situation.
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[DW44]

And most of the people here will blame Nawaz Sharif and the civilian Government when the foreign policy is controlled by the military. Dawn leaks said it all, Nawaz wanted the opposite of this situation.
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Dawn leaks had nothing to do with this issue. Nawaz himself is a lapdog of the Saudis.

 

[saeedhk]

And most of the people here will blame Nawaz Sharif and the civilian Government when the foreign policy is controlled by the military. Dawn leaks said it all, Nawaz wanted the opposite of this situation.
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You are correct.Foreign policy is controlled by the Al Sauds.That being said, Nawaz owes his life to the Saudis and he cannot even think of being disobedient to them.No Pakistani leader have had the gall to stand up to these murderers.Heck, even Mushy accepted a nice flat in London from the Al Saud clan.

The victims of all this mess are the Shias of Hazara and the Shias of Pakistan in general.

To this day, Saudi-funded extremists such as Mullah Burka, Aurangzaib Fruitti of Karachi and their ill roam around freely.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Apparently it was down to a mutual cooperation in security; fighting against opium smuggling.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Apparently it was down to a mutual cooperation in security; fighting against opium smuggling.

Sounds more likely. I don't think it would suit either Iran or Pakistan to be involved in military disputes right now, both have their hands full with other matters.

 

[Reddy]

Apparently it was down to a mutual cooperation in security; fighting against opium smuggling.

Sounds more likely. I don't think it would suit either Iran or Pakistan to be involved in military disputes right now, both have their hands full with other matters.

These two points from the above Pakistani news article say otherwise:

"Iranian forces have violated Pakistani territory with frequency in recent months and Islamabad has repeatedly lodged protests with Tehran over border violations."

"The shells were fired by Iranian border guards without provocation. The shells landed and exploded in an open space in the Parako area, a small village in Panjgur district.

Security officials said that mortar shells were fired in the early hours of the day, adding that no casualty was reported.

However, panic gripped the people of the area when they woke up to loud explosions.

Levies and Frontier Corps personnel rushed to the site where the shells had landed to collect evidence. The Panjgur deputy commissioner informed the officials concerned in Quetta about the incident."

 

[Lonewarrior]

why is this a news ? sometimes smugglers tried to cross the border , shelling and firing happend sometimes.

OP should give a favour to ppers, create one BIG mega thread about pakistan's problems and only indians should allow thre to discuss the issues (Internal & External ) about pakistan.
[MENTION=143290]Reddy[/MENTION]
you do know that people also read "news" about India on daily basis ?
so, control your OCD issues.

 

[Rishta Aunty]

Why can't we have good relations with both Iran and KSA? If India, a country which has a Hindu majority government in power, can manage that, why can't we? We have to get out of this zero-sum game we have in foreign relations. Economics is all that speaks today, not hard power.

 

[Varun]

Why can't we have good relations with both Iran and KSA? If India, a country which has a Hindu majority government in power, can manage that, why can't we? We have to get out of this zero-sum game we have in foreign relations. Economics is all that speaks today, not hard power.

You answered your own question: we can have friendly relations with both because we have no dog in their fight. Pakistan does, however.

 

[Rishta Aunty]

You answered your own question: we can have friendly relations with both because we have no dog in their fight. Pakistan does, however.

I think that's my point too. We shouldn't be having a dog in the fight, as any marginal short term benefit we get from taking sides, will only lead to long term issues.

 

[Reddy]

Why can't we have good relations with both Iran and KSA? If India, a country which has a Hindu majority government in power, can manage that, why can't we? We have to get out of this zero-sum game we have in foreign relations. Economics is all that speaks today, not hard power.

Well, you are able to observe that India is a Hindu majority country but at that same time not able to observe that Pakistan is a Sunni majority country.

 

[Varun]

Well, you are able to observe that India is a Hindu majority country but at that same time not able to observe that Pakistan is a Sunni majority country.

In addition, we can say with reasonable conviction that much of Pakistan's foreign policy is based on religion. India's isn't an extension of any kind of Hindu policy, however.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You answered your own question: we can have friendly relations with both because we have no dog in their fight. Pakistan does, however.

I like that you always adopt phrases I use, the dog in the fight being the latest. Must admit, I do enjoy educating our Indian friends on good usage of English language, shows how much we can interract despite all our differences.

 

[troodon]

Pak is caught up between KSA and Iran. Ideally, Pak should support KSA as Pak is majority Sunni.

But Iran shares a long border with Pak. Friction will be there due Pak's support of KSA.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I think that's my point too. We shouldn't be having a dog in the fight, as any marginal short term benefit we get from taking sides, will only lead to long term issues.

Pakistan doesn't have any dog in the fight, as explained this is a drug smuggling issue, Iranians are good neighbours, and Saudis are long term allies, their issues are between themselves and Pakistan has tried to maintain diplomatic relations with both. Take no notice of Indian trolls on the board (unless you are one yourself). This is their wish that Pakistan has fall out with Iran, that is why they push the idea and start threads of this nature.

 

[Rishta Aunty]

Well, you are able to observe that India is a Hindu majority country but at that same time not able to observe that Pakistan is a Sunni majority country.

Sunni identity is subsumed within the larger Pakistani identity. Pakistan was created as a country for the Muslims of the subcontinent to live in peace, no mention of sect there. Obviously extremists and external forces love to fan issues between groups as the violence helps them achieve their aims.

Pakistan doesn't have any dog in the fight, as explained this is a drug smuggling issue, Iranians are good neighbours, and Saudis are long term allies, their issues are between themselves and Pakistan has tried to maintain diplomatic relations with both. Take no notice of Indian trolls on the board (unless you are one yourself). This is their wish that Pakistan has fall out with Iran, that is why they push the idea and start threads of this nature.

Fair enough. There's no doubt that every incident of any friction between Iran and Pakistan is magnified by Indian trolls on here; Chabahar as a port is literally just a pathetic attempt at a ***-for-tat from India. If they really wanted to be integrated economically like they claimed, they can just join CPEC.

But this is what the Dawn report says and I'd like to hear you opinion:

Levies and Frontier Corps personnel rushed to the site where the shells had landed to collect evidence. The Panjgur deputy commissioner informed the officials concerned in Quetta about the incident.

Iranian forces have violated Pakistani territory with frequency in recent months and Islamabad has repeatedly lodged protests with Tehran over border violations.

That doesn't sound like it's all hunky-dory to be honest. I'm worried this might be an Iranian reaction to us sending an extra army contingent to KSA a few weeks ago if I remember right. I don't call that balancing ties the best way possible and that's what I was referring to.

It's sad cause we're between a rock and hard place pretty much with these two countries.

 

[R3verse Swing]

In addition, we can say with reasonable conviction that much of Pakistan's foreign policy is based on religion. India's isn't an extension of any kind of Hindu policy, however.

Yes folks, because India has no kind of Hindu policy domestically.

Don't believe the hype.

 

[Varun]

Yes folks, because India has no kind of Hindu policy domestically.

Don't believe the hype.

10/10 for reading skills, when my post clearly referred to a 'foreign' policy.

Or maybe we should starting taking the username 'Reverse' Swing more literally.

 

[R3verse Swing]

10/10 for reading skills, when my post clearly referred to a 'foreign' policy.

Or maybe we should starting taking the username 'Reverse' Swing more literally.

I was merely pointing out your conviction is woefully incorrect, and that India's extension of policy is within India.

In other words, try not to pretend India doesn't have a religious policy when clearly it does.