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Irish stars face county exclusion as new Test status sees them become overseas players in 2019

Gabbar Singh

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A tough choice for some of these players.


Ireland's leading players face the sobering prospect of exclusion from the English domestic game now their Test dream has become a reality.

Ireland captain William Porterfield, one-time England bowler Boyd Rankin and Paul Stirling and Tim Murtagh, of reigning champions Middlesex, are among eight contracted county cricketers who will not be permitted to continue as locals in England beyond September 2019.

The England and Wales Cricket Board set that deadline following the granting of Test status to Ireland a fortnight ago, although those whose current deals expire this year or in 2018 remain free to negotiate extensions up to the cut-off date.

Afterwards, those wanting to represent Ireland will only be allowed to feature in England as overseas players, potentially leaving them to choose between international careers and long-term financial security.

Those who relinquish their Irish status — to serve a notional seven-year qualification period for England — will be free to continue in the English system.

Cricket Ireland, who have been in talks with the ECB on the issue for months, are braced for the latter scenario.

Richard Holdsworth, Ireland's performance director, said: 'Yes, it could happen but we hope that by then we will be in a far better position financially to be able to remunerate those players, certainly to the level that they are remunerated at the moment in terms of their joint contracts with Cricket Ireland and their counties.

'Throughout our pursuit of Test status we knew this would be on the cards and that we couldn't have our cake and eat it when it came to county cricket.'

Derbyshire Twenty20 captain Gary Wilson, Durham duo Stuart Poynter and Barry McCarthy and Warwickshire's Mark Adair complete the Ireland players on Category B contracts who play in county cricket.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cr...-stars-face-county-exclusion-Test-status.html
 
Well one would hope that Ireland will gain enough regular cricket to be able to much a county for money.

Though legally, how does one prevent someone born in Northern Ireland from getting a contract? They're British citizens.
 
It's for the greater good.

County cricket was poaching the likes of Morgan and Rankin to play for England anyway.
 
Lol

Ireland don't even have good enough players to field in an ODI what are they going to do in a test match
 
What may happen is a lot of Irish born cricketers will not play for Ireland in limited overs

Plan might backfire.
 
Well one would hope that Ireland will gain enough regular cricket to be able to much a county for money.

Though legally, how does one prevent someone born in Northern Ireland from getting a contract? They're British citizens.

Continuing on from this

Tim Murtagh born London, England
Will Porterfield born Donemana, Northern Ireland
Stuart Poynter born London, England
Boyd Rankin born Derry, Northern Ireland
Paul Stirling born Belfast, Northern Ireland
Gary Wilson born Dundonald, Northern Ireland

Seems rather dubious
 
What may happen is a lot of Irish born cricketers will not play for Ireland in limited overs

Plan might backfire.

How?

The current bunch won't do this, unless they retire from internationals and finish their careers as county pros. Some may opt for this, which wouldnt be the worst thing IMO as we need freshening up anyway, but many wont. Others, mostly talking about Stirling here, are IMO good enough to make a county as overseas anyway. Porterfield is captain so I imagine he's on a decent wage with CI so will be doing fine financially in any case. If the likes of Murtagh retired I wouldnt mind tbh. Murtagh wont last too many more years anyway. Besides these guys have given everything for a Test match, they wont quit now when its actually a possibility.

But no future Irish internationals will do what you suggest. The counties wont take them on in the first place if this change is made, thus they won't even have the chance to. They will develop purely within our own system.

The likes of Joyce, Niall O Brian, Balbirnie, Kevin O Brien have all left county cricket already to play domestically in Ireland. County Cricket was never a permanent stage of our development if we wanted to reach the top, cannot rely on them as their interests are different to ours. Sooner or later our own system had to be developed and thats ongoing. Many of the players who in 2013 or so were county second XI cricketers like McCarter, Chase and so on have also left to play here instead.

Also, this hasn't been confirmed yet. As [MENTION=132373]Convict[/MENTION] pointed out I doubt its even possible to prevent the likes of Stirling, Porterfield, who were born in Derry in NI, from playing considering they are UK citizens. And Ireland and the UK have a Common Travel Area, allowing citizens of both nations to freely live and work in both countries without even needing ID or visas. While Brexit complicates this (and everything here is conjecture until Brexit and its terms are rubberstamped) I doubt either nation wants to see this change, so again if left intact I'd imagine the CTA would apply to cricketers as well, but Im not an expert so I dont know.

Point is we should be expanding our domestic structure anyway. 4 teams at present (3 for ODI and 3 day formats). With our increased funding we should add another side (Leinster easily has enough talent to support two teams without compromising quality), increase the wages of the domestic players, make it a 4 day competition instead of three days. If all the county guys came back it'd dramatically increase the standard which, considering its current level, if they did come back, I'd imagine wouldn't be too far off second division county cricket anyway (if they came back).

Only issue I have with all this is how little funding we're still receiving. For us and AFG to get 40 million while Zimbabwe receive 93 million makes absolutely no sense and in our case in particular due to our high costs and standard of living could make things difficult.
 
Continuing on from this

Tim Murtagh born London, England
Will Porterfield born Donemana, Northern Ireland
Stuart Poynter born London, England
Boyd Rankin born Derry, Northern Ireland
Paul Stirling born Belfast, Northern Ireland
Gary Wilson born Dundonald, Northern Ireland

Seems rather dubious

The same has been said in the past about the qualification criteria for kolpak registrations not being legally enforceable but counties still stick to the guidelines the ECB set out.

Counties also receive less funding the more non-English qualified players they field.
 
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congratulations ireland, one step ahead for international cricket

in order to save test cricket, number of members must grow
 
Basically confirmed now, also applies to NI born players.

Can't say it would change much, with the 13 team ODI league and extra fixtures odds are counties were gonna stop anyway.
 
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