Is a 5-0 Test series loss inevitable for India now?

[todfod 11]

I agree with person who said England is the worst test team as they keep loosing on home turf... seriously its a great observation

 

[Varun]

I agree with person who said England is the worst test team as they keep loosing on home turf... seriously its a great observation

They even lose to the West Indies and Lanka at home.

If we were to lose 5-0 to them I would have wanted them to swim home.

 

[Dagestani_Eagle]

i still feel India may win/draw one test

so 4-0 or 4-1

I still stand by this

 

[Hitman]

Goodness, I had my heart in my mouth. That was plumb if not for the feather edge.

 

[barah_admi]

"IF India do manage a 3-2, then this will be their most competitive away series against a BETTER side in years!"

You were referring to England, right?

By better side I mean better than playing away series against the likes of Sri Lanka or Bangladesh. So that would be England, Aus, SA and Pak...if India grew a pair and played the latter.

And yes, ENgland are better in England than India, that is quite a no brainer. They have also won a test series in 2016 in SA. India never have.

 

[Sadevdesai]

5-0 England .... little too stiff .... specially after where the Match has ended up today !!!!! Indians may win tomorrow before the end of the day .... very possible !!!!

 

[Ab Fan]

As I have said, this is not even a strong England side. India should really curse themselves for not being 2-1 ahead in this series rather than being 1-2.

Yes, they lost all tosses but on two of three occassions, they got what they wanted to do.

In a same way, Root must be cursing himself for opting to bowl in this test match, an absolute mess of a toss won.

 

[the_outsider]

By better side I mean better than playing away series against the likes of Sri Lanka or Bangladesh. So that would be England

Okay. That makes sense.

They have also won a test series in 2016 in SA. India never have.

SENA teams winning test series in other SENA nations is the same as SC teams beating each other in their own backyards.

India gets mocked for always beating SL. In the last 3 years India have beaten SL in SL in both series.

In the same period the same SL team whitewashed full strength Australian and SA teams.

That's what we see nowadays. Generally, SC teams are competitive in SC countries and SENA teams are competitive in SENA countries.

 

[barah_admi]

Okay. That makes sense.



SENA teams winning test series in other SENA nations is the same as SC teams beating each other in their own backyards.

India gets mocked for always beating SL. In the last 3 years India have beaten SL in SL in both series.

In the same period the same SL team whitewashed full strength Australian and SA teams.

That's what we see nowadays. Generally, SC teams are competitive in SC countries and SENA teams are competitive in SENA countries.

South Africa has very different conditions to England, the ball never swings as much, the heat is oft more oppressive, at two venues they are very high above sea level so requires a higher level of fitness and the ball itself travels further. On top of all that, the saffers had a better team, and this whole talk of conditions is getting too much. The English outplayed a better side through guts, determination and application.

India have just shown they can do that...for one test. If they can replicate it in two more tests then we can start talking about them as genuine world number ones.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

South Africa has very different conditions to England, the ball never swings as much, the heat is oft more oppressive, at two venues they are very high above sea level so requires a higher level of fitness and the ball itself travels further. On top of all that, the saffers had a better team, and this whole talk of conditions is getting too much. The English outplayed a better side through guts, determination and application.

India have just shown they can do that...for one test. If they can replicate it in two more tests then we can start talking about them as genuine world number ones.

Sri Lanka doesn't have same conditions either. Ball stays very low in Sri Lanka, whereas India has decent bounce.

SENA is different as they assist pacers. South Africa doesn't too much swing in air but surely has ton of seam movement + bounce. Whereas SC helps spinners. Both seam, swing and bounce fall under pace bowling, so it's SENA. Whereas slow, low and turners are in SC. It's spinner vs pacer conditions, they don't have to be identical.

 

[the_outsider]

Sri Lanka doesn't have same conditions either. Ball stays very low in Sri Lanka, whereas India has decent bounce.

SENA is different as they assist pacers. South Africa doesn't too much swing in air but surely has ton of seam movement + bounce. Whereas SC helps spinners. Both seam, swing and bounce fall under pace bowling, so it's SENA. Whereas slow, low and turners are in SC. It's spinner vs pacer conditions, they don't have to be identical.

My point exactly.

 

[the_outsider]

India have just shown they can do that...for one test. If they can replicate it in two more tests then we can start talking about them as genuine world number ones.

Neither this discussion nor this thread is about whether India is a #1 team. Please don't try to deviate from the actual argument with random sensationalist statements.

 

[barah_admi]

Neither this discussion nor this thread is about whether India is a #1 team. Please don't try to deviate from the actual argument with random sensationalist statements.

It's not random or sensationalist. It is a mere fact that if India can replicate this performance again and again, then questions about them being deserved number one will stop.

 

[Mamoon]

My condolences.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

This might be our only test win here. But atleast we competed hard on the 1st test and we have definitely perform ed much better here than England did last time they were in India

 

[troodon]

Good thing is, Ashwin, Ishant, Pandya, Bumrah have all got 5 wicket hauls this series.

All bowlers in good touch. Our batsmen have to score enough to give our bowlers a chance.

 

[Napa]

This might be our only test win here. But atleast we competed hard on the 1st test and we have definitely perform ed much better here than England did last time they were in India

I am backing our team to win the next two Tests.

 

[Mahee]

this game is not over yet....looking at the way rashid is batting, i think if they can hang around for the entire 1st session tomorrow, they can draw this as rain is expected to arrive in the 2nd session.

 

[Mahee]

even if India wins this match, England will easily win the next two matches as they are known for coming back hard on the opponents after losing a match....

 

[Napa]

this game is not over yet....looking at the way rashid is batting, i think if they can hang around for the entire 1st session tomorrow, they can draw this as rain is expected to arrive in the 2nd session.

If you really believe what you are saying, this is your chance to get very rich. The bookies are offering 100/1 odds for a draw.

 

[ads101]

With a bit more luck India would have been 2-1 now.

Congrats on them fighting back.

 

[Napa]

It's not random or sensationalist. It is a mere fact that if India can replicate this performance again and again, then questions about them being deserved number one will stop.

Very few Indians care that the questions are asked. They ascribe far greater quality to the ICC rankings than the quality of the questioners.

 

[hadi123]

I've had a long hard week so haven't been on the last couple of days. I was saying on here how people were over reacting so much to India's pasting in the third Test. Fair play to them.