Is Aaqib Javed becoming stubborn regarding selection of players?

[Aqib_mustafa]

I mean i liked the way aqib started the trend with spin pitches but now i am not sure he is getting everything right maybe rizwan is more powerful but he dropped shadab which i liked but then he dropped sufiyan which was a shocker to me he should know in asian condition pak needed two spinners.

I am day ng about his selection policies how he selected khushdil and faheem out of on where i liked his work at beginning but now i am just puzzled how he has dropped sufiyan and selected only one spinner.

So guys discuss is it all aqib who is running the show?

 

[Kianig89]

What is the package and perks Aaqib is getting as selector/coach, or is he on honorary duty.

Anyone please share, hearsay is he gets PKR 1.2M

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Aaqib Javed may end up ruining PCT like this....CT humiliation unfortunately looks real...I just wish I am awfully wrong here

 

[mominsaigol]

I mean i liked the way aqib started the trend with spin pitches but now i am not sure he is getting everything right maybe rizwan is more powerful but he dropped shadab which i liked but then he dropped sufiyan which was a shocker to me he should know in asian condition pak needed two spinners.

I am day ng about his selection policies how he selected khushdil and faheem out of on where i liked his work at beginning but now i am just puzzled how he has dropped sufiyan and selected only one spinner.

So guys discuss is it all aqib who is running the show?

Let's be 100% honest, fans will never be happy because they expect a coach/selector to be 100% perfect aka 100% win records, 100% success, perfect selections etc etc but the truth is they don't exist. Every coach has had bad points and good points and the reality is Pakistan is not a talented country where it's easy to manage resources.

For example let's look at Mickey Arthur

Positives

1) He quickly realised ahmed shehzad is not cutting it as a batsmen and azhar isnt cutting it as a captain henxe took the risk of having fakhar debut in an all important semi final and replacing azhar just before the ct. It was risky but it paid off.

2) He managed to get hafeez to perform at no 4 where he had a career resurgence as hafeez was crap at opening. And babar debut under him and was given the opportunity at no 3

3) He promoted allrounders and for a time they worked for pakistan. Hafeez, Malik, Haris sohail, Shadab(2017 form), nawaz, Faheem and many others came in his wake.

4) Under his wing shaheen, Amir, Wahab, Naseem and many others were at their best.

Negatives

1) He was absolutely dreadful in tests as a coach. He didnt make a single correct decision and even ended Pakistan's uae unbeaten run.

2) He never developed a single specialist spinner which usually left Pakistan exposed once the pace spell was over. Infact not developing any spinners is the primary reason we lost UAE runs.

3) While I don't blame him for imam Ul haq as he was forced by Inzi at the time, he didn't bother to develop any other openers. Infact he was against abid ali and when abid scored a debut century he was livid due to having bias against him

Now let's look at Misbah ul Haq

Positives

1) He came back and instantly fixed Pakistan's home test woes. Infact after he was discarded Pakistan started to suck at tests again. And misbah did all of this without creating lottery pitches.

2) He immediately sought to develop specialist spinners and started to look for them and hunt for great finds.

3) Despite my criticisms about rizwan, he has done well as a captain in odi so misbah was right about grooming rizzu as an odi cap atleast.

Negatives

1) Probably the worst t20 coach of all time. As a captain he collapsed the t20 side so its no surprise he did the same as a coach. Misbah doesn't understand t20 cricket as discarding fakhar for rizwan and babar is the wrong call in the same way bringing chacha into t20 is the wrong call. Under misbah we lost multiple series including the one against Zimbabwe and lost a super over against them.

2) In odi he was just okay. Nothing special.

Aqib Javed Positives

1) Won our first test series at home after a millenia and played to our strengths by bringing in sajid, Noman, And proven Test performers like kamran ghulam over babar azam. Infact he dropped Bobby altogether.

2) Had a very solid run in aus and sa in odi.

3) Didn't give up on saim ayub when most fans had and it payed off and now Pakistan are missing his services for CT.

4) He selects players based of formats and doesn't turn a single player into an all format guru, hence hin resting babar in tests and discarding naseem and shaheen in tests.

Negatives

1) He's just as bad as Misbah as a t20 coach/selector. Their both equally rubbish.

2) I don't blame him for fakhar's shadow ban but he should have made more efforts to promote a fakhar + saim combo.

3) Dropping Sufiyan for faheem/khusdil makes no sense.

4) The idea of creating lottery pitches will eventually kill test cricket for and in pakistan if aqib promotes this across domestic.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Yep. You are right... Aaqib is stubborn and he is an "I KNOW IT ALL" type of guy atm which he is clearly not.

 

[Justcrazy]

The problem is that Saim ayub was bowling also , and now with three pacers and one spinner who cannot bat is creating a big issue.

 

[BouncerGuy]

The problem is that Saim ayub was bowling also , and now with three pacers and one spinner who cannot bat is creating a big issue.

The problem is PCB invested on guys like Abbas. jahandad, wasim etc but when the tournament came, all of the other guys who were in the system were neglected and a guy who performed in BPL was preferred and then you have Faheem whose names was not even among 100 players and here he is in the squad.

 

[mominsaigol]

The problem is PCB invested on guys like Abbas. jahandad, wasim etc but when the tournament came, all of the other guys who were in the system were neglected and a guy who performed in BPL was preferred and then you have Faheem whose names was not even among 100 players and here he is in the squad.

First time I fully agree with you.

 

[BouncerGuy]

First time I fully agree with you.

Thanks for that... even qasim or arafat, mubasir would have been a better choice

 

[mominsaigol]

Thanks for that... even qasim or arafat, mubasir would have been a better choice

A ct squad of

1) Fakhar
2) Saim (Imam as replacement)
3) Shaheen
4) Naseem
5) Rauf
6) Sufiyan
7) Abrar
8) Rizwan
9) Babar
10) Mubasir Khan
11) waseem Jnr
12) Salman Ali Agha
13) Tayyab Tahir
14) Irfan Khan Niazi
15) Kamran Ghulam/ Saud Shakeel

Could have been really strong

Since you'd have a 4 pace option, 2 specialist spinners in the squad + 1 very good spin talent in mubasir + 1 makeshift spinner in Agha + a solid batting top 5 with tayyab and irfan being decent at 6 and 7.

The problem is this squad is rubbish. Aqib didn't select an opener and hence Babar who's already out of form has to open. The other 2 options, Kamran and saud suck at opening.

Then we don't have a no 7 as khushdil is a failure. And we also don't have any extra pacer so if shaheen, Naseem or Rauf all who are injury prone get injured, we don't have a 4th pacer as faheem and Husnain are garbo.

 

[adi_62941]

a coach who can make sohail akhtar lead a lahore qalandars for 2 good seasons can do anything to justify his wrong decisions. He has an ego bigger than mountain
And he also suffering from inferiority complex as he didnt get to play that much cricket as he had to because of wasim and waqar despite showing performances.

 

[Pakpak]

Let's be 100% honest, fans will never be happy because they expect a coach/selector to be 100% perfect aka 100% win records, 100% success, perfect selections etc etc but the truth is they don't exist. Every coach has had bad points and good points and the reality is Pakistan is not a talented country where it's easy to manage resources.

For example let's look at Mickey Arthur

Positives

1) He quickly realised ahmed shehzad is not cutting it as a batsmen and azhar isnt cutting it as a captain henxe took the risk of having fakhar debut in an all important semi final and replacing azhar just before the ct. It was risky but it paid off.

2) He managed to get hafeez to perform at no 4 where he had a career resurgence as hafeez was crap at opening. And babar debut under him and was given the opportunity at no 3

3) He promoted allrounders and for a time they worked for pakistan. Hafeez, Malik, Haris sohail, Shadab(2017 form), nawaz, Faheem and many others came in his wake.

4) Under his wing shaheen, Amir, Wahab, Naseem and many others were at their best.

Negatives

1) He was absolutely dreadful in tests as a coach. He didnt make a single correct decision and even ended Pakistan's uae unbeaten run.

2) He never developed a single specialist spinner which usually left Pakistan exposed once the pace spell was over. Infact not developing any spinners is the primary reason we lost UAE runs.

3) While I don't blame him for imam Ul haq as he was forced by Inzi at the time, he didn't bother to develop any other openers. Infact he was against abid ali and when abid scored a debut century he was livid due to having bias against him

Now let's look at Misbah ul Haq

Positives

1) He came back and instantly fixed Pakistan's home test woes. Infact after he was discarded Pakistan started to suck at tests again. And misbah did all of this without creating lottery pitches.

2) He immediately sought to develop specialist spinners and started to look for them and hunt for great finds.

3) Despite my criticisms about rizwan, he has done well as a captain in odi so misbah was right about grooming rizzu as an odi cap atleast.

Negatives

1) Probably the worst t20 coach of all time. As a captain he collapsed the t20 side so its no surprise he did the same as a coach. Misbah doesn't understand t20 cricket as discarding fakhar for rizwan and babar is the wrong call in the same way bringing chacha into t20 is the wrong call. Under misbah we lost multiple series including the one against Zimbabwe and lost a super over against them.

2) In odi he was just okay. Nothing special.

Aqib Javed Positives

1) Won our first test series at home after a millenia and played to our strengths by bringing in sajid, Noman, And proven Test performers like kamran ghulam over babar azam. Infact he dropped Bobby altogether.

2) Had a very solid run in aus and sa in odi.

3) Didn't give up on saim ayub when most fans had and it payed off and now Pakistan are missing his services for CT.

4) He selects players based of formats and doesn't turn a single player into an all format guru, hence hin resting babar in tests and discarding naseem and shaheen in tests.

Negatives

1) He's just as bad as Misbah as a t20 coach/selector. Their both equally rubbish.

2) I don't blame him for fakhar's shadow ban but he should have made more efforts to promote a fakhar + saim combo.
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3) Dropping Sufiyan for faheem/khusdil makes no sense.

4) The idea of creating lottery pitches will eventually kill test cricket for and in pakistan if aqib promotes this across domestic.

I am sorry I respect you a lot but this is plain wrong. Aqib is a fraud and you said he selects players based on format? Then what are Khushdil and Faheem doing in our ODI squad? On the back of what one-day performances were these frauds selected? He 'discarded' Babar, the same Babar who came back the series after. His 'tactics' at home were also basic common sense. Heck ALL of us on PP were begging for pitches which support spinners as we knew England wouldn't be able to handle it. He does the basic thing but then ends up over doing it to the point where these 'proven test performers' were outperfomed by a trundler like Warrican. I absolutely dread to think how we'd perform if we had faced a team with proper spinners like Lyon, Shamsi, Maharaj and so on. The latter two aren't even that good but if Warrican destroyed us they would annihilate us.

So we are now back to square one with our Test tactics.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

The problem is that Saim ayub was bowling also , and now with three pacers and one spinner who cannot bat is creating a big issue.

Saim had three roles.

In Pakistan cricket being a hitter is distinct role from just being a batsman so you can give him a 4th role too.

So we lost an opener, bowler, hitter and batsman all in one with his injury.

And we need 2-3 players to replace him.

I am not a big fan of Aqib but selection of Khushdil was justified as he can help fill some of the loss of Saim with the ball and as a a
hitter( on paper).

Faheem selection is unjustified but can't blame Aqib if he gets a call from Shareef family that Faheem is a must then what can Aqib do?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I am sorry I respect you a lot but this is plain wrong. Aqib is a fraud and you said he selects players based on format? Then what are Khushdil and Faheem doing in our ODI squad? On the back of what one-day performances were these frauds selected? He 'discarded' Babar, the same Babar who came back the series after. His 'tactics' at home were also basic common sense. Heck ALL of us on PP were begging for pitches which support spinners as we knew England wouldn't be able to handle it. He does the basic thing but then ends up over doing it to the point where these 'proven test performers' were outperfomed by a trundler like Warrican. I absolutely dread to think how we'd perform if we had faced a team with proper spinners like Lyon, Shamsi, Maharaj and so on. The latter two aren't even that good but if Warrican destroyed us they would annihilate us.

So we are now back to square one with our Test tactics.

He will take our cricket backwards and his coup against Kirsten or Gillespie shouldn't be forgotten.

But I don't think we can blame him too much for the ODI team at the moment. He's had one series and lost his xfactor player before the cup.

 

[mominsaigol]

I am sorry I respect you a lot but this is plain wrong. Aqib is a fraud and you said he selects players based on format? Then what are Khushdil and Faheem doing in our ODI squad? On the back of what one-day performances were these frauds selected? He 'discarded' Babar, the same Babar who came back the series after. His 'tactics' at home were also basic common sense. Heck ALL of us on PP were begging for pitches which support spinners as we knew England wouldn't be able to handle it. He does the basic thing but then ends up over doing it to the point where these 'proven test performers' were outperfomed by a trundler like Warrican. I absolutely dread to think how we'd perform if we had faced a team with proper spinners like Lyon, Shamsi, Maharaj and so on. The latter two aren't even that good but if Warrican destroyed us they would annihilate us.

So we are now back to square one with our Test tactics.

No worries brother. Thanks for sharing your insight.

I don't like aqib either which is why I put negatives as well. However some credit needs to be given no?

At the very least he gave opportunities to Noman, Sajid, Kamran ghulam, Tayyab Tahir, Sufiyan, Abrar, Saim ayub and many others. And that's atleast something.

Don't get me wrong, I am not disagreeing with you or the points you and @DeadlyVenom have made.

But what I'm saying is that he gave chances to these people. Now that doesn't mean he isn't nepotistic case in point (Khusdil and Faheem) nor does that mean that every single one of his selections have succeeded case in point kamran ghulam.

However during babar's era Pakistan wasn't even selecting or giving chances to youngsters. Guys like tayyab got discarded without even playing a single odi, The likes of agha were made to sit on the bench of tried and tested failures like chacha shadab and nawaz who bowled and batted horrifically in 2023 wc and Asia cup.

The likes of abrar weren't even given a debut despite being taken to wc 2024 nor was he given a debut for wc 2023. He was made to sit on the bench because babar had something against him. Saim ayub was being made to bat at no 4 in t20 and wasn't given chances in other formats.

The biggest credit I have given to aqib is that at the very least he stripped bobby of power.

Pakistan hasn't succeeded nor is it a powerhouse but 2025 pak is alot better then 2023 and 2024 pak under babar.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Now this will be discussed after the Champions Trophy

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

No worries brother. Thanks for sharing your insight.

I don't like aqib either which is why I put negatives as well. However some credit needs to be given no?

At the very least he gave opportunities to Noman, Sajid, Kamran ghulam, Tayyab Tahir, Sufiyan, Abrar, Saim ayub and many others. And that's atleast something.

Don't get me wrong, I am not disagreeing with you or the points you and @DeadlyVenom have made.

But what I'm saying is that he gave chances to these people. Now that doesn't mean he isn't nepotistic case in point (Khusdil and Faheem) nor does that mean that every single one of his selections have succeeded case in point kamran ghulam.

However during babar's era Pakistan wasn't even selecting or giving chances to youngsters. Guys like tayyab got discarded without even playing a single odi, The likes of agha were made to sit on the bench of tried and tested failures like chacha shadab and nawaz who bowled and batted horrifically in 2023 wc and Asia cup.

The likes of abrar weren't even given a debut despite being taken to wc 2024 nor was he given a debut for wc 2023. He was made to sit on the bench because babar had something against him. Saim ayub was being made to bat at no 4 in t20 and wasn't given chances in other formats.

The biggest credit I have given to aqib is that at the very least he stripped bobby of power.

Pakistan hasn't succeeded nor is it a powerhouse but 2025 pak is alot better then 2023 and 2024 pak under babar.

Ya true brother in babar era noman sajid abrar were nowhere to be seen at least aqib had the guts to pick ghulam in place of babar.

 

[emranabbas]

A team can never truly be selected on merit if star players like Babar are not dropped for poor performance if he is you people would be the first to complain.

Everyone is talking about Khushdil, but what other spin-bowling all-rounders are available? Iftikhar Chacha? Shadab Khan?

If you want to bring in two spinners, who are you dropping from the three fast bowlers? Or are you sacrificing a batsman, weakening the batting lineup?

It’s easy to blame Aqib, but why haven’t foreign coaches or Babar himself groomed a proper spin all-rounder who can bat and bowl?

Bringing in untested players with no international experience isn’t a guaranteed solution.

And 99% of those complaining won’t even respond to this post because they have no real answer just like Aqib,

 

[LordJames]

Let's be 100% honest, fans will never be happy because they expect a coach/selector to be 100% perfect aka 100% win records, 100% success, perfect selections etc etc but the truth is they don't exist. Every coach has had bad points and good points and the reality is Pakistan is not a talented country where it's easy to manage resources.

For example let's look at Mickey Arthur

Positives

1) He quickly realised ahmed shehzad is not cutting it as a batsmen and azhar isnt cutting it as a captain henxe took the risk of having fakhar debut in an all important semi final and replacing azhar just before the ct. It was risky but it paid off.

2) He managed to get hafeez to perform at no 4 where he had a career resurgence as hafeez was crap at opening. And babar debut under him and was given the opportunity at no 3

3) He promoted allrounders and for a time they worked for pakistan. Hafeez, Malik, Haris sohail, Shadab(2017 form), nawaz, Faheem and many others came in his wake.

4) Under his wing shaheen, Amir, Wahab, Naseem and many others were at their best.

Negatives

1) He was absolutely dreadful in tests as a coach. He didnt make a single correct decision and even ended Pakistan's uae unbeaten run.

2) He never developed a single specialist spinner which usually left Pakistan exposed once the pace spell was over. Infact not developing any spinners is the primary reason we lost UAE runs.

3) While I don't blame him for imam Ul haq as he was forced by Inzi at the time, he didn't bother to develop any other openers. Infact he was against abid ali and when abid scored a debut century he was livid due to having bias against him

Now let's look at Misbah ul Haq

Positives

1) He came back and instantly fixed Pakistan's home test woes. Infact after he was discarded Pakistan started to suck at tests again. And misbah did all of this without creating lottery pitches.

2) He immediately sought to develop specialist spinners and started to look for them and hunt for great finds.

3) Despite my criticisms about rizwan, he has done well as a captain in odi so misbah was right about grooming rizzu as an odi cap atleast.

Negatives

1) Probably the worst t20 coach of all time. As a captain he collapsed the t20 side so its no surprise he did the same as a coach. Misbah doesn't understand t20 cricket as discarding fakhar for rizwan and babar is the wrong call in the same way bringing chacha into t20 is the wrong call. Under misbah we lost multiple series including the one against Zimbabwe and lost a super over against them.

2) In odi he was just okay. Nothing special.

Aqib Javed Positives

1) Won our first test series at home after a millenia and played to our strengths by bringing in sajid, Noman, And proven Test performers like kamran ghulam over babar azam. Infact he dropped Bobby altogether.

2) Had a very solid run in aus and sa in odi.

3) Didn't give up on saim ayub when most fans had and it payed off and now Pakistan are missing his services for CT.

4) He selects players based of formats and doesn't turn a single player into an all format guru, hence hin resting babar in tests and discarding naseem and shaheen in tests.

Negatives

1) He's just as bad as Misbah as a t20 coach/selector. Their both equally rubbish.

2) I don't blame him for fakhar's shadow ban but he should have made more efforts to promote a fakhar + saim combo.

3) Dropping Sufiyan for faheem/khusdil makes no sense.

4) The idea of creating lottery pitches will eventually kill test cricket for and in pakistan if aqib promotes this across domestic.

I have to disagree with you about Aaqib. The tactic of preparing spin friendly pitches against England was plain to see and advocated by many. The same people also said that this won't work against other sides when they bring their spinner to Pakistan e.g. I said that with these pitches when Sri Lanka comes Pakistani batters will collapse and this tactic won't work.

But I have Aaqib credit for cornering England.

In terms of CT squad, the selection of Faheem and Khushdil is just atrocious and no opener and no second spinner is huge mistake when others had already selected their squads so even if Aaqib had no brains he could have looked at other squads and learned.

The issue isn't just Aaqib, it's the entire PCB which are just incompetent baffons and replacing a name here or there may bring temporary relief and temporary results (e.g England Test Series) but Pakistan as a country is a mess and PCB is a reflection of that mess!

Dr Nauman Niaz said on TV that this is not the squad which selectors selected, their choices were overturned and this was dictated to them...Who knows? But nobody can be this incompetent to select Faheem and Khushdil and if they have a decent game (which they may), fans will be praising the wisdom of Aaqib!

 

[emranabbas]

Aaqib Javed may end up ruining PCT like this....CT humiliation unfortunately looks real...I just wish I am awfully wrong here

You're absolutely right, but the blame doesn’t lie with Aqib. Since the end of Misbah's era, there’s been a clear failure in grooming new talent, especially all-rounders and openers. Babar has consistently chosen to stick withhis friends like Iftikhar and Shadab instead of rotating players or building bench strength. This reliance on a core group of players has left us without much depth, especially when it comes to younger or emerging talent. t Aqib has only been in charge for less than 6 months. Expecting him to completely overhaul the system in such a short time is unrealistic. The responsibility for not nurturing future stars falls on the previous management, especially during Babar’s captaincy.

 

[emranabbas]

The problem is PCB invested on guys like Abbas. jahandad, wasim etc but when the tournament came, all of the other guys who were in the system were neglected and a guy who performed in BPL was preferred and then you have Faheem whose names was not even among 100 players and here he is in the squad.

That's a lie. Jahandad, Abbas, and Wasim haven’t played a single ODI since Aqib became the selector. Kushdil and Faheem have replaced Irfan Khan, who averages 10 with the bat and can't bowl, and kamran ghulam is also sitting out for one of these. Fakhar has replaced abdullah, while Saud has taken saim's place.

 

[emranabbas]

Thanks for that... even qasim or arafat, mubasir would have been a better choice

But have any of these players actually played in ODIs? anmd you want to throw them in a world tournament. While other teams use bilateral series to groom and develop their players, Pakistan seems to use them for Rizwan and Babar's stat-padding. Then they celebrate every bilateral win as if they’ve won the World Cup.

 

[RyanRyan10]

Give him some time. Team has done better since he got involved.

 

[ads101]

I think he’s been good. We need a local coach that can properly motivate and organise the players. Kirsten and Mickey there was a disconnect. Yes in ideal world a foreign coach would work but not for us right now. And if it were to be a foreign coach I’d want one who had success in Pakistan domestic like Flower. I’m also a much bigger fan of having a coach with domestic success and psl success. Misbah was put in due to his performance as a player not as a coach. Same arguably for waqar to an extent.

First time in a long time you have a coach where people can be united under. The rest I feel there were always going to be divisions, unrest. You need a stable environment.

 

[Justcrazy]

Saim had three roles.

In Pakistan cricket being a hitter is distinct role from just being a batsman so you can give him a 4th role too.

So we lost an opener, bowler, hitter and batsman all in one with his injury.

And we need 2-3 players to replace him.

I am not a big fan of Aqib but selection of Khushdil was justified as he can help fill some of the loss of Saim with the ball and as a a
hitter( on paper).

Faheem selection is unjustified but can't blame Aqib if he gets a call from Shareef family that Faheem is a must then what can Aqib do?

Why they cannot get in kamran Ghulam ? He is pretty decent spinner in List A , and can bat as well.

 

[Kianig89]

But have any of these players actually played in ODIs? anmd you want to throw them in a world tournament. While other teams use bilateral series to groom and develop their players, Pakistan seems to use them for Rizwan and Babar's stat-padding. Then they celebrate every bilateral win as if they’ve won the World Cup.

There goes your agenda of throwing in young players at a world tournament

 

[gazza619]

Aaqib Javed may end up ruining PCT like this....CT humiliation unfortunately looks real...I just wish I am awfully wrong here

Well we have a very weak memory. PCT was already ruined before Aaqib took over. If you look overall he has actually revived the team. He will make mistakes. We all do.

 

[emranabbas]

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There goes your agenda of throwing in young players at a world tournament

So, you want 3-4 players to debut in the Champions Trophy while your failures Rizwan and Babar keep playing endless bilateral series but disappear in tournaments. That clearly shows your agenda

When domestic performers were given chances in the Australia and Zimbabwe series, you were the first to object now suddenly, you want them to debut lol

You want Mubashar Khan, Arafat Minhas, and Qasim Akram in the team despite them struggling in domestic cricket, yet you expect them to perform miracles at the international level? What kind of logic is that?

You posts are clearly based on hate for certain players, coach and chairman.

 

[Kianig89]

So, you want 3-4 players to debut in the Champions Trophy while your failures Rizwan and Babar keep playing endless bilateral series but disappear in tournaments. That clearly shows your agenda

When domestic performers were given chances in the Australia and Zimbabwe series, you were the first to object now suddenly, you want them to debut lol

You want Mubashar Khan, Arafat Minhas, and Qasim Akram in the team despite them struggling in domestic cricket, yet you expect them to perform miracles at the international level? What kind of logic is that?

You posts are clearly based on hate for certain players, coach and chairman.

I have claimed nothing here, just highlighted what you were trying to propagate, the squad selected is still inexperienced and its a fact as mentioned above

 

[emranabbas]

Well we have a very weak memory. PCT was already ruined before Aaqib took over. If you look overall he has actually revived the team. He will make mistakes. We all do.

Some people seem to believe we were world-beaters until Aqib came along and ruined everything. Have they forgotten the humiliations of the 2024 World Cup, the 2023 World Cup, and the Asia Cup? Under Aqib, we beat South Africa 4 out of 4 times and even defeated Australia on their home turf. But when things go well, it's credited to Rizwan's captaincy, and when they go bad, it's suddenly Aqib's fault.

 

[emranabbas]

I have claimed nothing here, just highlighted what you were trying to propagate, the squad selected is still inexperienced and its a fact as mentioned above

The selected squad has more experience than Qasim Akram, Mubashar Khan, and Arafat Minhas combined. All three remain untested at the international level, so where’s the so-called propaganda?

The real issue is that your beloved Babar failed to develop new players, continuously sticking with Shadab and Iftikhar and other trash instead.

 

[Kianig89]

The selected squad has more experience than Qasim Akram, Mubashar Khan, and Arafat Minhas combined. All three remain untested at the international level, so where’s the so-called propaganda?

The real issue is that your beloved Babar failed to develop new players, continuously sticking with Shadab and Iftikhar and other trash instead.

Why are you ignoring players like Imam ul Haq, Abdullah Shafique Abass Afridi Jehandad Khan Wasimjr. and mentioning 20 year kids , good team needs unanimous support let's hope for the best.

As for Babar he is only accountable for his performance and not entirely team ,

 

[emranabbas]

Why are you ignoring players like Imam ul Haq, Abdullah Shafique Abass Afridi Jehandad Khan Wasimjr. and mentioning 20 year kids , good team needs unanimous support let's hope for the best.

As for Babar he is only accountable for his performance and not entirely team ,

Who exactly are Abdullah and Imam going to replace? Fakhar, Babar, Saud, or Rizwan? Which one of them? And as for Abbas Afridi, Jahandad, and Wasim who do you want them to replace? Naseem, Shaheen, or Rauf?

Or are you suggesting Imam and Abdullah play as pace and spin all-rounders?

 

[Farabi]

Who exactly are Abdullah and Imam going to replace? Fakhar, Babar, Saud, or Rizwan? Which one of them? And as for Abbas Afridi, Jahandad, and Wasim who do you want them to replace? Naseem, Shaheen, or Rauf?

Or are you suggesting Imam and Abdullah play as pace and spin all-rounders?

Yup. Some people love to criticize endlessly. But when you ask them to offer solutions, they run away.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Let's be 100% honest, fans will never be happy because they expect a coach/selector to be 100% perfect aka 100% win records, 100% success, perfect selections etc etc but the truth is they don't exist. Every coach has had bad points and good points and the reality is Pakistan is not a talented country where it's easy to manage resources.

For example let's look at Mickey Arthur

Positives

1) He quickly realised ahmed shehzad is not cutting it as a batsmen and azhar isnt cutting it as a captain henxe took the risk of having fakhar debut in an all important semi final and replacing azhar just before the ct. It was risky but it paid off.

2) He managed to get hafeez to perform at no 4 where he had a career resurgence as hafeez was crap at opening. And babar debut under him and was given the opportunity at no 3

3) He promoted allrounders and for a time they worked for pakistan. Hafeez, Malik, Haris sohail, Shadab(2017 form), nawaz, Faheem and many others came in his wake.

4) Under his wing shaheen, Amir, Wahab, Naseem and many others were at their best.

Negatives

1) He was absolutely dreadful in tests as a coach. He didnt make a single correct decision and even ended Pakistan's uae unbeaten run.

2) He never developed a single specialist spinner which usually left Pakistan exposed once the pace spell was over. Infact not developing any spinners is the primary reason we lost UAE runs.

3) While I don't blame him for imam Ul haq as he was forced by Inzi at the time, he didn't bother to develop any other openers. Infact he was against abid ali and when abid scored a debut century he was livid due to having bias against him

Now let's look at Misbah ul Haq

Positives

1) He came back and instantly fixed Pakistan's home test woes. Infact after he was discarded Pakistan started to suck at tests again. And misbah did all of this without creating lottery pitches.

2) He immediately sought to develop specialist spinners and started to look for them and hunt for great finds.

3) Despite my criticisms about rizwan, he has done well as a captain in odi so misbah was right about grooming rizzu as an odi cap atleast.

Negatives

1) Probably the worst t20 coach of all time. As a captain he collapsed the t20 side so its no surprise he did the same as a coach. Misbah doesn't understand t20 cricket as discarding fakhar for rizwan and babar is the wrong call in the same way bringing chacha into t20 is the wrong call. Under misbah we lost multiple series including the one against Zimbabwe and lost a super over against them.

2) In odi he was just okay. Nothing special.

Aqib Javed Positives

1) Won our first test series at home after a millenia and played to our strengths by bringing in sajid, Noman, And proven Test performers like kamran ghulam over babar azam. Infact he dropped Bobby altogether.

2) Had a very solid run in aus and sa in odi.

3) Didn't give up on saim ayub when most fans had and it payed off and now Pakistan are missing his services for CT.

4) He selects players based of formats and doesn't turn a single player into an all format guru, hence hin resting babar in tests and discarding naseem and shaheen in tests.

Negatives

1) He's just as bad as Misbah as a t20 coach/selector. Their both equally rubbish.

2) I don't blame him for fakhar's shadow ban but he should have made more efforts to promote a fakhar + saim combo.

3) Dropping Sufiyan for faheem/khusdil makes no sense.

4) The idea of creating lottery pitches will eventually kill test cricket for and in pakistan if aqib promotes this across domestic.

Naseem hadn't even debuted when Mickey was in charge. Wahab was never really good for any period of time. He spent majority of the time out of the team during Mickey's tenure. Even when was "good" in WC 19, he averaged 30+ with the ball

 

[BunnyRabbit]

But have any of these players actually played in ODIs? anmd you want to throw them in a world tournament. While other teams use bilateral series to groom and develop their players, Pakistan seems to use them for Rizwan and Babar's stat-padding. Then they celebrate every bilateral win as if they’ve won the World Cup.

Pak play very few ODIs and tests in general. And Pakistan isn't really an elite team in either format where they can test out youngsters in random bilaterals. When you don't have the leverage of playing much ODIs and being a mediocre team only adds to the woes. It doesn't make sense to rest your best players there either. For a mediocre team, grooming new and better players should be a continuous process whether it's bilaterals or tournaments till you have formed a good combination with some bankable bench strength.

 

[Kianig89]

Who exactly are Abdullah and Imam going to replace? Fakhar, Babar, Saud, or Rizwan? Which one of them? And as for Abbas Afridi, Jahandad, and Wasim who do you want them to replace? Naseem, Shaheen, or Rauf?

Or are you suggesting Imam and Abdullah play as pace and spin all-rounders?

Imam for Saud, Jehandad for Faheem

 

[emranabbas]

Imam for Saud, Jehandad for Faheem

And you think that's going to make Pakistan world beaters overnight

 

[Misia]

I forgot one would like to see Shan in the odi team as a replacement for Saim

 

[Kianig89]

Kamran Akmal lamented Haris Rauf for lack of yorkers and selfish approach of Rizwan by scapegoating Saud.

Basit Ali also shell shocked on timid approach and lamented Babar Azam for statpaddding.

Muhammad Amir : Huge loss if Fakhar is ruled out, big laughs on Haris Rauf bowling that he missed century. there is no comparison between Babar & Kohli and another snakely smirk expression.

Ahmed Shehzad, condemn the opener crisis and lack of spin options, 5-6 players are not capable to be in starting 11

Ex-captain Aamir Sohail also criticized team's

Shoaib Akhtar bemoaned on the lack of skill set and poor shot selections.

Tanvir Ahmed: As expected Pakistan were outperformed by NZ, banking on dew was wrong decision.

Wasim Akram, credited NZ batters for playing according to situation, Pakistan lacked plan B. Poor captaincy by Rizwan

C Pujara, Pakistan lacked quality spinners poor fielding evident by lack of fitness

Waqar Younis, Pakistan lacked as a bowling unit, no rhythm from bowlers , SSA Naseem not developing as bowlers , random bowling changes from Rizwan looked clueless.

@Rana