Is Aaqib Javed the next Intikhab Alam?

[Slog]

We often make fun of or are just left awestruck by Intikhab Alams longevity. He has been involved in Pakistan cricket in one way or another since 1959 and it often makes you wonder how is this even possible.

However even Intikhab cannot beat time and his involvement in Pakistan cricket will come to a natural end someday

However there is another guy who seems ready to be taking his mantle. Since starting his domestic career at the age of 12 ( still a world record) he played for Pakistan and domestic cricket till the early 2000s.

However immediately after his retirement he started coaching in NCA in 2003 and became the head of NCA in 2004 and later 2007. His time there presided taking care of and coaching talented cricketers from our two under 19 World Cup winning squads and some luminaries included Sarfaraz, Khalid Latif, Anwar Ali, Umar Akmal. His work with bowlers especially turned out to be disappointing as Apparenlty super talented youngsters like Irshad and Anwar Ali lost their zip or just lost their way. He specifically changed Anwar Alis action and the result was he turned into a harmless trundler

He was then variously appointed as bowling coach, assistant coach etc etc as part of the national senior cricket team. He has taken academy and A team on tours aswell and has recently been involved with UAE.

From all reports he will be the next Pakistan coach. He has been involved in and around cricket and particularly Pak cricket got a good part of 30 years now.

Is he the next Intikhab alam in this respect?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

No. Afridi is the next Intikhab Alam. He will never retire.

 

[badsha001]

Tough competition ahead btwn Lala and Aqib Javed...

 

[Slog]

Tough competition ahead btwn Lala and Aqib Javed...

There's no indication that Afridi will be involved directly in cricket post retirement

Media work and commentary doesn't count in this comparison Ofcourse

 

[badsha001]

There's no indication that Afridi will be involved directly in cricket post retirement

Media work and commentary doesn't count in this comparison Ofcourse

I will be suprised if he doesn't become a consultant or something else in PCB after all the influence he has over media and pcb

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[JaDed]

There's no indication that Afridi will be involved directly in cricket post retirement

Media work and commentary doesn't count in this comparison Ofcourse

Commentary?Where, In PTV or Geo or ABP-AAJ tak ?Don't see him fitting anywhere else and not sure that will give him good amount.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

I agree with Slog brother

 

[Slog]

So looks like the man who destroyed our golden generation of 2004 and 2006 under 19 World Cup winners will be the head coach

 

[The_Odd_One]

So looks like the man who destroyed our golden generation of 2004 and 2006 under 19 World Cup winners will be the head coach

I would rather have no coach than Aaqib.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Did he actually destroy these bowlers action for no good reason? Why didn't they just revert back to their original actions if the change was unproductive? Aqib was only bowling coach for a limited period of time.

 

[Slog]

Did he actually destroy these bowlers action for no good reason? Why didn't they just revert back to their original actions if the change was unproductive? Aqib was only bowling coach for a limited period of time.

More than the bowling coach he was heading the NCA from 2003 to 2009. Both generations of under 19 World Cup winners were directly under his wing where he carried out experimentations on them.

 

[dhump]

Average bowler, Poor captain and useless coach...Well lets make him head coach PCB logic.

I am truly getting over Pakistan cricket these days....India or Australia is way to go.


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[Cpt. Rishwat]

More than the bowling coach he was heading the NCA from 2003 to 2009. Both generations of under 19 World Cup winners were directly under his wing where he carried out experimentations on them.

I was under the impression Anwar Ali changed his action due to injury. Is that incorrect? Otherwise there is no sign that he is using Aaqib style action. Aaqib had a classical action that could generate outswing. Ali is the opposite, basically can only sling the ball so that it goes into the pads.

 

[#GreenRoars]

So looks like the man who destroyed our golden generation of 2004 and 2006 under 19 World Cup winners will be the head coach

Yes, as every one is destroying our cricket, why he should stay behind?

 

[Slog]

I was under the impression Anwar Ali changed his action due to injury. Is that incorrect? Otherwise there is no sign that he is using Aaqib style action. Aaqib had a classical action that could generate outswing. Ali is the opposite, basically can only sling the ball so that it goes into the pads.

Ofcourse he didn't copy Aqibs action

Aqib made him, Talha etc change actions to make them more effective and out less stress on the body this reducing injury. Don't know about the effect the chance had on injuries but they became Vinay Kumar type trundler a

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Ofcourse he didn't copy Aqibs action

Aqib made him, Talha etc change actions to make them more effective and out less stress on the body this reducing injury. Don't know about the effect the chance had on injuries but they became Vinay Kumar type trundler a

Don't the bowlers have their own brains to decide they don't want to use a useless action if their previous one was better?

 

[Slog]

Don't the bowlers have their own brains to decide they don't want to use a useless action if their previous one was better?

Teenagers will normally listen to such coaches. It's hilarious how you are trying to defend Aqib Javed here.

Btw on a side note. As UAE coach what are Aqibs achievements. Any to write home about?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Teenagers will normally listen to such coaches. It's hilarious how you are trying to defend Aqib Javed here.

Btw on a side note. As UAE coach what are Aqibs achievements. Any to write home about?

I don't know why you think I am defending Aaqib, I know nothing about him as a coach. I just find it strange that bowlers would be dim enough to adopt useless bowling actions when they have had success with their own.

I've heard this a lot that Aaqib has destroyed promising bowlers actions and it just seems ridiculous that anyone would adopt an unsusccessful method and see their career go down the drain. Why not just change it back?

 

[Slog]

I don't know why you think I am defending Aaqib, I know nothing about him as a coach. I just find it strange that bowlers would be dim enough to adopt useless bowling actions when they have had success with their own.

I've heard this a lot that Aaqib has destroyed promising bowlers actions and it just seems ridiculous that anyone would adopt an unsusccessful method and see their career go down the drain. Why not just change it back?

Disciplinary action from NCA For not listening to coach

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Disciplinary action from NCA For not listening to coach

Is there any record of that actually happening or being threatened? I am never sure what is fact here and what is just fan speculation. I'm not having a go at you by the way, may be that you are far better informed than me, just want to clarify.

 

[Slog]

lol new Director of PSL or sth )

 

[lahoriyah1234]

I will take anyone over inkhiab Dadaji anyday. I dont think aqib is a bad choice, he has alot of experience in modern day cricket.

 

[Asim2Good]

Even though I dont like Aaqib that much for reports about working on action. But I am pretty sure they/he would have got proper reason to change action of bowlers. and to say he destroyed our 2 WC winners is a bit too much
most of those players, either they were not good enough or simply didn't play enough at domestic level to make a difference.

2004 Winner Final Team :
Khalid Latif is in news and no body likes him here at pp
Fawad Alam, Zulqarnain, Riaz Afridi all of them got bit of chance in natinal team.
only unlucky were Mansoor Amjad (he was making big news at that time) & Ali Imran
other players in team, didn't play long enough after the win
I think Tariq Mehmood also made headlines (was he guy with Murali Action?), but his action was suspected

2006 winners :
Nasir Jamshed, Sarfraz, Imad Wasim, Anwer Ali have gotten chance at international level.

Anwer Ali: ok his action was changed, they (PCB) & Aaqib must have his reasons, may b injury? because I remember he gained alot of weight too 1-2 years after that WC

For me, from 2006 team, Akhtar Ayub was biggest loss and then Jamshed. Akhtar Ayub had nice bouncer and he was using crease really well in that final. and he was bowling at around 138-139 mark too

 

[saeed5646]

I will take anyone over inkhiab Dadaji anyday. I dont think aqib is a bad choice, he has alot of experience in modern day cricket.

agree anyone should be good replacement instead of inthkhaib

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

I just dont want Misbah in PCB, a total pushover. Has zero backbone.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

People here really underrate Aaqib Javed and his coaching credentials.

He has done well everywhere as a coach and understands the players as Shahid Afridi once said when comparing him to Waqar Younis.

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[sshakir411]

apparently the deal with Qalandars isn't really done and he's already resigned from the UAE post...Also mentioned that he wants to coach a full test playing member. Interesting developments, maybe he's inked some deal with the PCB?

 

[Slog]

People here really underrate Aaqib Javed and his coaching credentials.

He has done well everywhere as a coach and understands the players as Shahid Afridi once said when comparing him to Waqar Younis.

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Shahid Afridi's endorsement lowers Aqib Javed's stock if anything so not sure why you are trumpeting it as some success

 

[Suleiman]

No he isn't, he'll never reach dada Inti's level, no one ever will.

To reach Inti's level you have to completely blend in with the background like a chameleon, so much so that the media, lobbies, chairmen etc don't even know you exist because you never get the blame for anything after any defeat.

Nobody knows what he actually does for the team. Yes he is manager, but we've never heard of what duties and roles he has fulfilled or anything.

All we know is that he is getting paid, and that's it.

With Aqib at least we'll know he won't be getting the $$$$ for nothing.

Inti reminds me of a story in the US. Where a dude was on the payroll for the company for an entire decade, and hadn't showed up for work for the same timeframe. So for 10 years he was getting paid for literally nothing, until it was worker appreciation day just this last month, and he was apparently the winner, but when they went to his booth to award him there was no one there LOL

Inti is the same type of guy. Will take a while to hunt him down

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Shahid Afridi's endorsement lowers Aqib Javed's stock if anything so not sure why you are trumpeting it as some success

A player being positive about a coach is a big thing. Unless you have other special ways to measure coaching.

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[Slog]

Ghulam Mudassir seems to be another one cursed by Aqib Javed

 

[Slog]

No. Afridi is the next Intikhab Alam. He will never retire.

Tough competition ahead btwn Lala and Aqib Javed...

There's no indication that Afridi will be involved directly in cricket post retirement

Media work and commentary doesn't count in this comparison Ofcourse

Aqib def won this one

 

[andy0204]

No he isn't, he'll never reach dada Inti's level, no one ever will.

To reach Inti's level you have to completely blend in with the background like a chameleon, so much so that the media, lobbies, chairmen etc don't even know you exist because you never get the blame for anything after any defeat.

Nobody knows what he actually does for the team. Yes he is manager, but we've never heard of what duties and roles he has fulfilled or anything.

All we know is that he is getting paid, and that's it.

With Aqib at least we'll know he won't be getting the $$$$ for nothing.

Inti reminds me of a story in the US. Where a dude was on the payroll for the company for an entire decade, and hadn't showed up for work for the same timeframe. So for 10 years he was getting paid for literally nothing, until it was worker appreciation day just this last month, and he was apparently the winner, but when they went to his booth to award him there was no one there LOL

Inti is the same type of guy. Will take a while to hunt him down

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