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With the recent peace talks and the fact that the world is a much poorer place now post Covid, is there a chance of an India Pakistan series happening this year?
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With the recent peace talks and the fact that the world is a much poorer place now post Covid, is there a chance of an India Pakistan series happening this year?
What peace talks? The problem of Pakistan wants peace on its own terms, which is not going to happen.
Besides, why would you want to see India thump Pakistan? We are better off not having bilateral ties with them.
The 4-1 thrashing in the last 5 ODIs with the same set of players on both sides should be enough for our fans.
India also wants peace on it own terms. In the cacophony the will of the poor Kashmiris is always smothered.
We have been occupied by worst of nations on both sides.
If it happens it'll help us right our W/L record against them, but I don't think PM Ghaas-Phoos will green light it yet.
Let's start with baby steps: host them in the World T20, then head over for an Asia Cup in the UAE/Pakistan, and we'll talk after that.
Manmohan Singh banned cricket against Pakistan just because he was incapable of taking any other action post 26/11 remember? Out of many, it was one of the most shameful and cowardly acts for any sitting PM. Modi need not interfere with cricket bcoz he knows how to deal with deplomacy seperately. If I recall, he never mentioned stopping cricket ties with Pakistan. If BCCI asks permission for cricket series, BJP govt will have no issues giving the green light.
If BCCI asks permission for cricket series, BJP govt will have no issues giving the green light.
Manmohan Singh banned cricket against Pakistan just because he was incapable of taking any other action post 26/11 remember? Out of many, it was one of the most shameful and cowardly acts for any sitting PM. Modi need not interfere with cricket bcoz he knows how to deal with deplomacy seperately. If I recall, he never mentioned stopping cricket ties with Pakistan. If BCCI asks permission for cricket series, BJP govt will have no issues giving the green light.
You can't actually believe this right? The BJP philosophy is built on Pakistanis and Muslims being the boogeymen. If India start touring and vice versa then that perception will be shattered. The last thing Modi wants is normalisation of relations with Pakistan - it's his primary strategy behind getting the country united enough to vote him in.
After Babar Azam dedicates Pakistan's victory in the WT20 to the people of Kashmir, as well as the farmers of India, I doubt the BCCI would want anything to do with the PCB.
Would it be worth it? Yes.
Would be very awkward for that translator standing next to Babar.
That would be as naive as Shoaib Malik thanking "all the Muslims" of the world in the WT20 of 2007, when half of them can't point out Pakistan on the map, and the man of the match/series was Irfan Pathan from India.
With the recent peace talks and the fact that the world is a much poorer place now post Covid, is there a chance of an India Pakistan series happening this year?
Besides, why would you want to see India thump Pakistan? We are better off not having bilateral ties with them.
The 4-1 thrashing in the last 5 ODIs with the same set of players on both sides should be enough for our fans.
Would be very awkward for that translator standing next to Babar.
That would be as naive as Shoaib Malik thanking "all the Muslims" of the world in the WT20 of 2007, when half of them can't point out Pakistan on the map, and the man of the match/series was Irfan Pathan from India.
You can't actually believe this right? The BJP philosophy is built on Pakistanis and Muslims being the boogeymen. If India start touring and vice versa then that perception will be shattered. The last thing Modi wants is normalisation of relations with Pakistan - it's his primary strategy behind getting the country united enough to vote him in.
By your logic, Eng should've stopped playing Ashes from 1989 till 2005 because Australia murdered them every time they faced each other.
No matter how mediocre the Pakistan team becomes, sensible fans from both sides will want to see the matches.
Apples-oranges comparison.
Firstly, Australia and England do not have a political rivalry and there is no bad blood between the fans.
Secondly, there was no social media back then, so less opportunities for trolling and trash-talking.
It is Pakistan’s great fortune that there has been no bilateral cricket with India over the last 6-7 years.
Pakistan getting rinsed by India home and away across formats every 2 years would result in Pakistani players and fans getting trolled on social media like no tomorrow.
We already suffer from enough humiliation so there is no need for us to get humiliated further by resuming bilateral ties with India.
Pakistan cricket is finished and will never catch up with India so it is quite a depressing situation and thus it is in our best interests to hope that the Indian Government continues to block BCCI from resuming bilateral cricket with Pakistan.
India is miles ahead of not just Pakistan but also versus most cricket teams of the world. It doesnt stop them playing against them, does it?
Pakistan will benefit more by playing against India as a defeat versus India hurts more and may be this way some of the improvements that need to be made in our system would be fast tracked?
Apples-oranges comparison.
Firstly, Australia and England do not have a political rivalry and there is no bad blood between the fans.
Secondly, there was no social media back then, so less opportunities for trolling and trash-talking.
It is Pakistan’s great fortune that there has been no bilateral cricket with India over the last 6-7 years.
Pakistan getting rinsed by India home and away across formats every 2 years would result in Pakistani players and fans getting trolled on social media like no tomorrow.
We already suffer from enough humiliation so there is no need for us to get humiliated further by resuming bilateral ties with India.
Pakistan cricket is finished and will never catch up with India so it is quite a depressing situation and thus it is in our best interests to hope that the Indian Government continues to block BCCI from resuming bilateral cricket with Pakistan.
In response, I will quote Mark Twain
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
Apples-oranges comparison.
Firstly, Australia and England do not have a political rivalry and there is no bad blood between the fans.
Secondly, there was no social media back then, so less opportunities for trolling and trash-talking.
It is Pakistan’s great fortune that there has been no bilateral cricket with India over the last 6-7 years.
Pakistan getting rinsed by India home and away across formats every 2 years would result in Pakistani players and fans getting trolled on social media like no tomorrow.
We already suffer from enough humiliation so there is no need for us to get humiliated further by resuming bilateral ties with India.
Pakistan cricket is finished and will never catch up with India so it is quite a depressing situation and thus it is in our best interests to hope that the Indian Government continues to block BCCI from resuming bilateral cricket with Pakistan.
What’s your problem? So what if Pakistan play them and get mullered every time?
It won’t bother me but it will not be good for the mental health of Pakistani fans. I am thinking about the community here.
India won 7 out of the 8 T20i‘s vs Pakistan.India avoids series with Pakistan purely out of fear. Losing to an enemy nation, especially when they are a glorified minnow, would be a national embarrassment.
India won 7 out of the 8 T20i‘s vs Pakistan.
India won 5 out of the last 6 ODIs vs Pakistan.
That poster is Indian ,he is trying his hand at sarcasm.
India won 7 out of the 8 T20i‘s vs Pakistan.
India won 5 out of the last 6 ODIs vs Pakistan.
Not gonna happen. Unfortunately, politics have killed all possibilities of Pak vs Ind series changes.
Oh and don't feed the troll![]()
Yes its true They won the one that mattered tho CT17 Fond memories
It won’t bother me but it will not be good for the mental health of Pakistani fans. I am thinking about the community here.
Yeah the 2019 World Cup match didn’t matter. Pakistan had no interest in qualifying for the semifinals.
Yes right now India is better than us but they haven't consistently demolished us ever - and neither have we consistently demolished them despite being overall better than them through the 80s and 90s.
Pak v India series would be hard fought. One on paper India should win but they should have won the 2005 series in India as well with our third string bowling attack.
Pak v India series would be hard fought. One on paper India should win but they should have won the 2005 series in India as well with our third-string bowling attack.
Is Modi willing to make another peace overture after Pathankot and risk the same fate as Vajpayee?
The media says a lot, but unlike congress times most of the media has almost no inkling what Modi is thinking.
Is Modi willing to make another peace overture after Pathankot and risk the same fate as Vajpayee?
The media says a lot, but unlike congress times most of the media has almost no inkling what Modi is thinking.
Is Modi willing to make another peace overture after Pathankot and risk the same fate as Vajpayee?
The media says a lot, but unlike congress times most of the media has almost no inkling what Modi is thinking.
Can anyone tell from where this positive news/rumours of relations normalisation is coming. I must have missed something in news.
Except Modi's tweet for IK wishing him quick recovery from Covid, can't see anything else in news.
Obviously I am no expert on what Modi is thinking lol but the letter he issued today seems like a step towards peace. Also isn’t the Indian army planning to do a joint drill with Pakistan-China? This a far cry from their earlier(and unrealistic) stance of fully isolating Pakistan.
Sure both sides being on the same page is mutually beneficial. However this isn’t because Indian govt’s isolation has failed or backfired, this is because Pakistan govt seems to have backed themselves in a corner and this is going to be more useful to them.
Wasn’t it always a no brainer that once Pakistan stopped this whole Kashmir narrative and other activities, things would automatically be much better?
But you do, right?
Obviously I am no expert on what Modi is thinking lol but the letter he issued today seems like a step towards peace. Also isn’t the Indian army planning to do a joint drill with Pakistan-China? This a far cry from their earlier(and unrealistic) stance of fully isolating Pakistan.
Vajpayee took an initiative and NS welcomed it too but then we know what happened
This time it’s different, request is coming from IK and army (more importantly army obviously) so let’s see Modi’s response.
Modi and team’s leverage and negotiating skills are at a different level so depends on how much Pakistan wants to compromise I guess.
Some positive signs though in the last week or so.
The reality is:
PCB needs an India v Pakistan series more than BCCI does.
Pakistanis probably want an India v Pakistan series more than Indian fans too.
PCB will get a lot of praise if such a series happens, whereas BCCI will probably get a lot of stick if it happens.
What peace talks? The problem of Pakistan wants peace on its own terms, which is not going to happen.
Besides, why would you want to see India thump Pakistan? We are better off not having bilateral ties with them.
The 4-1 thrashing in the last 5 ODIs with the same set of players on both sides should be enough for our fans.
Coming from Aljazeera. UAE brokering a deal. Google it.Can anyone tell from where this positive news/rumours of relations normalisation is coming. I must have missed something in news.
Except Modi's tweet for IK wishing him quick recovery from Covid, can't see anything else in news.