Boi
Senior ODI Player
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Yeah appoint another mental midget as captain. No thanks.
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Why what did he do? Are you saying this because he was struggling with EnglishPlease don’t give this crazy idea to any 1 , I met with babar In England not too long ago and I can assure you the guy hasn’t got it in him to be a leader ...
Future captain is the worst runner between the wickets after Inzamam.
Nope! Doesn't have the demeanor/attitude to be captain . . . Fakhar Zaman (if he can find a spot) is the only option at this moment . .
A batting captain for a struggling batting unit is disaster. PAK will destroy Babar if he is made Captain of this batting line-up.
I'll say it again - make Amir ODI Captain, and may be Asad as Test Captain (no option - PP will get after me, if I say make Amir Captain for both). If Abbas is willing, I'll make him Test Captain - Lakmal is leading SRL, and he is doing quite well. Holder as well, and if his knee was a little tighter, Mash would have been far better Test Captain than whoever we are trying these days.
If your batting isn't that great - make a bowler Captain, or at least an all-rounder; that's an universal truth for cricket. AND, in any case - NEVER make a WK Captain, that too over aged, over weight, not good at core job and struggling with bat - what else?.
A batting captain for a struggling batting unit is disaster. PAK will destroy Babar if he is made Captain of this batting line-up.
I'll say it again - make Amir ODI Captain, and may be Asad as Test Captain (no option - PP will get after me, if I say make Amir Captain for both). If Abbas is willing, I'll make him Test Captain - Lakmal is leading SRL, and he is doing quite well. Holder as well, and if his knee was a little tighter, Mash would have been far better Test Captain than whoever we are trying these days.
If your batting isn't that great - make a bowler Captain, or at least an all-rounder; that's an universal truth for cricket. AND, in any case - NEVER make a WK Captain, that too over aged, over weight, not good at core job and struggling with bat - what else?.
Man this is a refreshing thought!
When was the last time we had a bowler as captain for anything? I mean, captaincy truly comes into display during a side's bowling and yes, a bowler would know what he must do to get a side out.
Abbas would not be a long term solution to be honest. Hassan Ali or Yasir Shah maybe. Although Hassan needs to show a bit more maturity off the field and Yasir seems like an odd character (not in a negative way)
Just being a good player is not an eligibility for captaincy is it? What about the tactical nuos etc? Babar is not ready for captaincy. He doesn't impose. ALso, how is Abbas qualified for captaincy?
As I have said over a month, I only see one feasible and realistic (not ideal) solution - Babar as LOIs captain, Shafiq as Test captain. I can write an essay if anyone needs any explanation.
However, this is only my wish - the truth is that we are going to carry Captain Fantastic for 2 years at least. There will always be enough minnow-bashing in ODIs to keep his job safe, and the drama of being the best T20 team in the world will probably continue till the WT20 2020.
His job is probably vulnerable in Test cricket, and if he gets the chop, Shafiq is the only realistic alternative.
Shafiq for Test indeed (no option), but making Babar ODI Captain might end up destroying only guy scoring some regular runs. FZ may be, but Babar isn't ready - his body language is still childish, in fact Imam is tougher. WK as Captain doesn't work - there is a reason why Knott, Marsh, Kirmani, Evans, Grout, Doujon or Taylor never led their side.
Amir will never get captaincy because of his past and because he is a bowler. Plus I have doubts over his commitment to the job. I will not surprised if he goes for an early retirement, his heart does not seem to be in the game anymore.
It is almost certain that Babar will be captain one day. He is the most prolific batsman in the country and it is safe to say that barring extreme unforeseen circumstances, he will be a fixture in the playing XI in all formats for the next 10 years at the very least.
On that front, he definitely ticks two boxes that the legendary tactician Sarfraz does not - ability to make the team on merit without hiding under captaincy, and longevity. However, there is indeed a risk that the burden of captaincy might break him. After all, he does not appear to be a poster boy for mental toughness.
Nonetheless, if Sarfraz is not sacked within the next 24 months, it is almost guaranteed that Babar will be his successor.
24 months - I see you have lots of patience, must do well in Civil Service job.
I wish Babar should be made Captain, but my fear is, this team is not that good - making Babar Captain won't change fate much; but what might happen is, PCB will dump him forever from Captaincy for team's failure and bring another misfit knob as a compromise choice. For a change, I did write many times (before 2015 and after 2013) that MoHa should replace Misbah as PAK's LO Captain; because at least he was making the XI on merit (Misbah did also), and he is street smart - later he did win an active ODI in AUS.
OK - how is Sarfraz qualified as Captain? Please do bother to explain here.
Abbas has one quality, which is 90% for me when to pick a Captain - a half fit Abbas with one leg, hand & eye will be the first man in PAK's Test XI, any where in world on any condition, isn't that enough? Waise, Sarfraz isn't uprooting trees with his tactics to be honest; and anyone, even I can constantly abuse players with verbal attacks - that's not much of a qualification you know.
Cricket Captain is a leader - no one bothers to know who was Brazil's Captain of 1970, may be they know the name of the Coach; same can be said of that Chicago Bulls team of 90s; BUT in cricket, you can't pick a Captain for the team to carry him. These tactics, factis, persona ..... are distracting words - after Oxford in 1974, first time Imran led in any cricket was as PAK Captain 7 years later.
Sarfraz was groomed as a captain since his younger days. As far as Brazil and Bulls go, Captain is not so important in football and basketball. The coach typically calls the shots. Yes, Abbas is the best test player in the team and Ive heard the strategy should be to choose the best 11 and choose the best player in the team as captain. But that was in olden days. Look at Kane's captaincy today. The way he choked the runs and at the same time attacked was just outstanding. Him being the best batsman is not what won the game but his tactics. A fielding unit needs good tactics and hence a captain is very important. Sarfraz might have messed up but I think captaincy should be given to Azhar Ali until Babar is ready.
As I have said over a month, I only see one feasible and realistic (not ideal) solution - Babar as LOIs captain, Shafiq as Test captain. I can write an essay if anyone needs any explanation.
However, this is only my wish - the truth is that we are going to carry Captain Fantastic for 2 years at least. There will always be enough minnow-bashing in ODIs to keep his job safe, and the drama of being the best T20 team in the world will probably continue till the WT20 2020.
His job is probably vulnerable in Test cricket, and if he gets the chop, Shafiq is the only realistic alternative.
If the PCB sacked Sarfraz before 24 months, it will be one of the boldest steps in its history. Winning tournaments in Pakistan gives you a lot of mileage. After all, we were still trying to mimic in 92 strategy 23 years later in 2015. Besides, as I said, there will always be enough cheap wins in ODIs and T20s to maintain the W/L ratio. People in this country have a shallow understanding of the game.
Tests are the only format where he is in danger of being sacked in the near future, and the realistic short-term successor is a Karachi boy as well, so that should keep one lobby happy.
Younis Khan was sacked post 2009 world T20 victory so you never know.
On record, here you are saying that Ken's batting didn't win this Test???? I am really scared now to further in this discussion.
Azhar Ali should have been the Test Captain, but he is suffering the same fate I fear for Babar - PCB appointed him ODI Captain and he is paying for that now.
Those talking about performances. There is no doubt that he will become the best player in the team like he already is in LOI’s. The only thing holding him back from captaincy is English speaking skills which is pure inferiority complex of the PCB!
Younis Khan was sacked post 2009 world T20 victory so you never know.
Shafiq in tests and anyone in odi over sarfaraz even a shadab can do better than Mr.Specialist. And Rizwan is scoring runs [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION].
Younis Khan was sacked post 2009 world T20 victory so you never know.
Those were different circumstances. He lost the dressing room and the PCB Chairman was Ijaz Butt.
This is the only way to go about it. Babar fits all categories of being a captain.
Makes the team on merit, can lead by example and can be an option for the long run.
There is no other option. Way to go!
Did Babar captain our under 19 side?
I think a lot of mouths will shut when pakistan will win next 2 matches. Pakistan lost today because of batting and not sarfaraz's captaincy. Besides sarfaraz is the best wk/batsman in the country. Rizwan is nothing but pure hype.
You may never know pakistan might as well win the next years WC and then nobody can say anything to sarfaraz except for some posters who will put it down to fluke . As they Izzat Allah deta hai wo jisay chahay de day.
Sarfaraz won unexpectedly in CT17 and drew in Eng in the month of may after getting whitewashed by sl.
Watch out for the SA tour and WC because i think this Pak team can comeback from adversity and serve some people humble pie
Can Babar Azam speak English? Nothing against him, just want to know.
A captain should atleast be able to have some conversation, at least like Sarfraz.
Shan speaks good English. If he performs for another year, he can be made Test captain.
24 months - I see you have lots of patience, must do well in Civil Service job.
I wish Babar should be made Captain, but my fear is, this team is not that good - making Babar Captain won't change fate much; but what might happen is, PCB will dump him forever from Captaincy for team's failure and bring another misfit knob as a compromise choice. For a change, I did write many times (before 2015 and after 2013) that MoHa should replace Misbah as PAK's LO Captain; because at least he was making the XI on merit (Misbah did also), and he is street smart - later he did win an active ODI in AUS.
Not before WC 2019 - he has a much bigger role with bat in upcoming WC, with historically PAK's worst batting line-up in a WC. After WC, he can be deputy at least.
For the WC 2019 .................... ............. tik tok, tik tok, clock is ticking for Sarfraz. Had those 5 ODI's been in AUS, I would have confidently said that he'll be sacked and Amir will take charge; but may be Sarfraz's PAK will edge past Australian skeleton of a team 3-2 in UAE to keep him in job. ENG ODIs are too late - even 5-0 with 5 bonus points for Poms are not enough to make changes so close to WC.
PAK's only hope is SAF series : a 5-0 with royal hammerings by this half decent SAF side, might eventually save PAK's WC ....... Sarfraz, MoHa, Malik, Imam, Inzamam, Grant, Mahmood .... needs to be purged brutally.
Kaash (If only) had the order of the ODI Series was ENG, SAF, AUS .....![]()
Yes. He captained in U-15 and U-19.
Don't see anyone else in the more worthy.
Amir would do a much better job
Even better than batman azam
He is a natural captain. He captained pak U19 team in U19 world cup and was also one of the leading scorers if my meory seve me right
We are looking for a long term captain here. Not someone who performs only in England.
Amir needs more confidence and I don't see any ingredients of captaincy in him.
Has been awarded A category in central contract.
Looks to be awarded with test captain ship.