Is BCCI the most inefficient sports body in the world? The story of failure of Indian cricket

[Proactive_]

It's been a while since BCCI became the most powerful cricketing body in the world commanding immense clout over the day to day workings of not just Indian cricket but world cricket in itself. This power brought with itself immense amounts of monetary benefits owing to the massive popularity of the game in the country. The BCCI has had everything it needed and more to take Indian cricket to the pinnacle of world cricket but has it done that? Despite having obscene amounts of money, great grass root facilities, an ever flourishing cricketing culture and full autonomy over just about every decision there is to take with regards to Indian cricket, the Indian Cricket Team has hardly ever dominated the sport like some of the great cricket team of the past.

Here's a look at India's latest away series records:

Vs Australia 0-2 (4)
Vs England 1-3 (5)
Vs South Africa 0-1 (2)
Vs New Zealand 0-1 (2)
Vs Sri Lanka 2-1 (3)
Vs West Indies 2-0 (4)
Vs Pakistan 0-1 (3)

It's a matter of great shame that despite having just about everything at our disposal, India still posts some horrific figures overseas, still after all these years hasn't developed a fast bowler of worldwide repute and resorts to blatant pitch tampering to get the job done at home.

The questions that need to be asked are..

1) Why isn't India already dominating world cricket in all three formats like any country with that sort of resources and culture should?

2) Why is Australia, not India the victor of 4 of the past 5 World cups?

3) Why can't India ever top the rating charts in all the three formats simultaneously?

4) Why is politics still so prevalent in Indian cricket to the extent that even the judgement of accomplished cricketing greats like Sourav Ganguly and VVS Laxman are overriden?

5) Just how long more would it take for Indian cricket to dominate like the Windies of the 80s or the Aus of the 2000s?

6) Why have the other cricketing countries despite having a fraction of the resources that India has and having cricket much lower in their sporting hierarchy in popularity or being handicapped by quota policies still continue to do just as good or even better than India?

It's high time these questions are addressed and people in charge of Indian cricket and ridiculous amounts of money and power be held accountable for Indian cricketing long standing failure to dominate the only sport that has any mainstream appeal whatsoever.

 

[thehub]

BCCI became the richest board in early 2000s. Until then they were like any other non white boards. India as a country was a lot poorer than now, until early 2000s. Indian parents never used to encourage kids to take up sports as a profession as much as they do now. There is a reason why India made more engineers, doctors, scientists, etc than any other country.

However since becoming the super power of cricket world, BCCI has made a lot of positive changes in the infrastructure and model in domestic cricket. This is something everyone has seen and agreed with. As an indian fan, you should have seen it as well as your following Indian cricket closely. Also15 yrs is still not a long time. Indian team will get better from here. Maybe in next 10 to 15 yrs we will see a.lot of better things from indian cricket. Going by your post history, you will be one of those who would be burning when you see that positive changes.

Now talking about WC wins to measure the quality or performance of the board, what happened to super rich countries with GDP as big as India with fraction of population? Why they could not win even a single cup in last 40yrs. These countries have been having infrastructure, money, etc throughout cricket history, not just in last 15 yrs.

 

[Proactive_]

BCCI became the richest board in early 2000s. Until then they were like any other non white boards. India as a country was a lot poorer than now, until early 2000s. Indian parents never used to encourage kids to take up sports as a profession as much as they do now. There is a reason why India made more engineers, doctors, scientists, etc than any other country.

However since becoming the super power of cricket world, BCCI has made a lot of positive changes in the infrastructure and model in domestic cricket. This is something everyone has seen and agreed with. As an indian fan, you should have seen it as well as your following Indian cricket closely. Also15 yrs is still not a long time. Indian team will get better from here. Maybe in next 10 to 15 yrs we will see a.lot of better things from indian cricket. Going by your post history, you will be one of those who would be burning when you see that positive changes.

Now talking about WC wins to measure the quality or performance of the board, what happened to super rich countries with GDP as big as India with fraction of population? Why they could not win even a single cup in last 40yrs. These countries have been having infrastructure, money, etc throughout cricket history, not just in last 15 yrs.

It's almost 20 years. An entire generation has passed, what are you waiting for? The resources to output ratio is abysmal.

 

[Itachi]

It's almost 20 years. An entire generation has passed, what are you waiting for? The resources to output ratio is abysmal.

You need to wait for atleast 50 years.

The government put so much money to eradicate polio. How many years it took?

Restructuring a system and return investment takes decades. And it is futile to say those reforms took place in 2000 alone. BCCI made real progression after 2004 and that too step by step.

You cN already see the results. First class cricketers aren't struggling anymore.

You are only looking at the small picture.

 

[Proactive_]

You need to wait for atleast 50 years.

The government put so much money to eradicate polio. How many years it took?

Restructuring a system and return investment takes decades. And it is futile to say those reforms took place in 2000 alone. BCCI made real progression after 2004 and that too step by step.

You cN already see the results. First class cricketers aren't struggling anymore.

You are only looking at the small picture.

With the level of politics still existing in the system, I doubt even 50 years would be enough. I mean come on, Cricket has absolute autonomy in the Indian sporting scene, BCCI has every resource that it could wish to have and still a generation later we aren't even distinctly ahead of the pack, let alone dominating it. India should be dominating Cricket like China dominates Table Tennis. There is no reason not be except for the incompetence of the BCCI.

 

[Sachin136]

The other cricket boards aren't exactly poor.

 

[zn426]

The other cricket boards aren't exactly poor.

No, but they don't have interference and politics on the level that Pakistan/India have.

 

[Proactive_]

BCCI - The board with the poorest managerial acumen?

A 2 day practice match before the hardest Test series India would be having in almost 3 years after being burnt out by an unnecessary full fledged home series against SL which wasn't even originally scheduled. Great job BCCI! Richest board with poorest managerial acumen. Damnit what did we do to deserve such an embarrassing sports body.

 

[sachin100]

A 2 day practice match before the hardest Test series India would be having in almost 3 years after being burnt out by an unnecessary full fledged home series against SL which wasn't even originally scheduled. Great job BCCI! Richest board with poorest managerial acumen. Damnit what did we do to deserve such an embarrassing sports body.

Srilanka forced india to prepone their series scheduled for next yr as they want india to visit srilanka for their independence cup triseries between ind, srl and ban.

Please know something before u post u r regular drivel.

 

[sachin100]

Sri Lanka "FORCING" BCCI. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOOLOLOL. Nuff said.

I know u r hatred for any thing bcci, indian cricket.

Why r u so worried for indian cricket any way. U r not even indian and why u r including" we" in response to bcci

 

[Proactive_]

I know u r hatred for any thing bcci, indian cricket.

Why r u so worried for indian cricket any way. U r not even indian and why u r including" we" in response to bcci

Don't worry. You'll know why I cared when India takes the field on Jan 5 after having a grand total of 2 days of match practice and having gone through a series which could have easily been scheduled to some other time in 2018 or 19. But BCCI's greed knows no bounds and BCCI is sort of a pride symbol for a section of India's fans so no wonder they'll defend it no matter what, even if their decisions put another difficult away tour in the toilet.

 

[sachin100]

Don't worry. You'll know why I cared when India takes the field on Jan 5 after having a grand total of 2 days of match practice and having gone through a series which could have easily been scheduled to some other time in 2018 or 19. But BCCI's greed knows no bounds and BCCI is sort of a pride symbol for a section of India's fans so no wonder they'll defend it no matter what, even if their decisions put another difficult away tour in the toilet.

Thanks for u r concern regarding Indian team and it players u hate so much.

 

[Proactive_]

Thanks for u r concern regarding Indian team and it players u hate so much.

Stop associating Indian cricket with just your heroes like Kohli and Sachin, Indian cricket is much more than just these "superstars". It is also about cricketers like Pujara, Rahane, Shami, Dhawan etc etc, some of the players that I rate very highly and have spoken so as well of. You just need a different perspective, that's all.

 

[sachin100]

Stop associating Indian cricket with just your heroes like Kohli and Sachin, Indian cricket is much more than just these "superstars". It is also about cricketers like Pujara, Rahane, Shami, Dhawan etc etc, some of the players that I rate very highly and have spoken so as well of. You just need a different perspective, that's all.

Yours is not perspective it is blind hatred. It is the same bcci which is responsible for their rise through the ranks which u despise so much

 

[Proactive_]

Yours is not perspective it is blind hatred. It is the same bcci which is responsible for their rise through the ranks which u despise so much

It's their talent which is responsible. Stop blindly worshipping BCCI for everything. BCCI has to be the least efficient sports body in the world. It has got all the resources, the money, the power, the cricket crazy population which hardly knows any other sport, largest pool of players by far.. everything and yet India isn't even close to dominating cricket which it should have been long time back and hasn't won any of the last 4 ICC tournaments, Thanks to decisions such as hosting SL for MONEY, nothing but MONEY at exactly this time period when it could have easily hosted them any time in 2018-19 and compromising India's performance on a difficult upcoming away tour.

 

[sachin100]

It's their talent which is responsible. Stop blindly worshipping BCCI for everything. BCCI has to be the least efficient sports body in the world. It has got all the resources, the money, the power, the cricket crazy population which hardly knows any other sport, largest pool of players by far.. everything and yet India isn't even close to dominating cricket which it should have been long time back and hasn't won any of the last 4 ICC tournaments, Thanks to decisions such as hosting SL for MONEY, nothing but MONEY at exactly this time period when it could have easily hosted them any time in 2018-19 and compromising India's performance on a difficult upcoming away tour.

Yes thats why england is winning every football world cup and cricket tournaments with their vast resources and talent isn't it?

So tell me why hasn't sa won anything of note in icc tournaments?

 

[Proactive_]

Yes thats why england is winning every football world cup and cricket tournaments with their vast resources and talent isn't it?

So tell me why hasn't sa won anything of note in icc tournaments?

Cricket is nowhere close to being as popular as Rugby or Football in SA while cricket is the undisputed No.1 sport in India, yet they have dominated India in Tests for most of their history despite being out of International cricket for 20 years. There is no country which has more favourable factors for dominating cricket than what India has. India should have been dominating cricket like China does Table Tennis but it hardly is. All thanks to the BCCI and it's incompetent money scrounging management.

 

[sachin100]

Cricket is nowhere close to being as popular as Rugby or Football in SA while cricket is the undisputed No.1 sport in India, yet they have dominated India in Tests for most of their history despite being out of International cricket for 20 years. There is no country which has more favourable factors for dominating cricket than what India has. India should have been dominating cricket like China does Table Tennis but it hardly isn't. All thanks to the BCCI and it's incompetent money scrounging management.

What happened to England in football, cricket, rugby?

 

[Proactive_]

What happened to England in football, cricket, rugby?

GB at Olympics 2016 : 27 G, 23 S, 17 B = 67 Medals

India at Olympics 2016 : 0 G, 1 S, 1 B = 2 Medals.

There is no comparison. England distributes it's sporting budget proportionately and hence is a very good sporting nation. In India, sports start and end with Cricket with a few individuals in other sports throw in, the talent pool for cricket in India is just astounding in quantity, with BCCI hoarding absolutely obscene amounts of money to get the best out of them and make India dominate cricket, yet it has comprehensively failed to do so.

 

[sachin100]

So what happens to the same sa team that dominates test cricket and bilateral odis which becomes a sissy team in icc tournaments.

For india it is icc tournaments is the bench mark but for sa test cricket is the bench mark isn't it?

How conveniently u side step my question about icc tournaments and change it to test cricket to suit u r argument.

U r the one who raised questions about indian performance in icc tournaments but when asked about others icc tournaments r irrelevant isn't?

 

[Proactive_]

So what happens to the same sa team that dominates test cricket and bilateral odis which becomes a sissy team in icc tournaments.

For india it is icc tournaments is the bench mark but for sa test cricket is the bench mark isn't it?

How conveniently u side step my question about icc tournaments and change it to test cricket to suit u r argument.

U r the one who raised questions about indian performance in icc tournaments but when asked about others icc tournaments r irrelevant isn't?

I raised questions about Indian cricket under performing with regards to the resources it possesses which includes all forms of cricket + Tournaments. India doesn't dominate in Tests, especially in overseas and hasn't won any of the last 4 ICC Tournaments. It's a 0/2. Whereas SA has actually dominated Test cricket, at one point it held away Test trophies at Eng, Aus, NZ, SL and draws in India and UAE. India has never come close to replicating something like this in Tests.

 

[sachin100]

GB at Olympics 2016 : 27 G, 23 S, 17 B = 67 Medals

India at Olympics 2016 : 0 G, 1 S, 1 B = 2 Medals.

There is no comparison. England distributes it's sporting budget proportionately and hence is a very good sporting nation. In India, sports start and end with Cricket with a few individuals in other sports throw in, the talent pool for cricket in India is just astounding in quantity, with BCCI hoarding absolutely obscene amounts of money to get the best out of them and make India dominate cricket, yet it has comprehensively failed to do so.

Hahahahaaa. Football is the number one sport in England and it has the best resources like training facilities, money and what not as per u r own logic as bcci but why England is a disgrace in football?

U r a classic example of esacapist who looks for first sign of escape route when u r own arguments r countered with?

From football to Olympics u have changed u r topic. If u can't answer u r own logic don't post u r illogical responses

 

[sachin100]

GB at Olympics 2016 : 27 G, 23 S, 17 B = 67 Medals

India at Olympics 2016 : 0 G, 1 S, 1 B = 2 Medals.

There is no comparison. England distributes it's sporting budget proportionately and hence is a very good sporting nation. In India, sports start and end with Cricket with a few individuals in other sports throw in, the talent pool for cricket in India is just astounding in quantity, with BCCI hoarding absolutely obscene amounts of money to get the best out of them and make India dominate cricket, yet it has comprehensively failed to do so.

What nonsense u r talking about? English government supports only Olympic sports and they have nothing to do with football, rugby just like indian govt which only supports Olympic sports.

Dont post on some thing u don't know jack about. U mean to say England govt supports football, rugby inaddition to Olympic sports?

 

[Proactive_]

Hahahahaaa. Football is the number one sport in England and it has the best resources like training facilities, money and what not as per u r own logic as bcci but why England is a disgrace in football?

U r a classic example of esacapist who looks for first sign of escape route when u r own arguments r countered with?

From football to Olympics u have changed u r topic. If u can't answer u r own logic don't post u r illogical responses

There is nothing illogical. Football is the most popular sport in most European countries, most of whom invest heavily in it on par with England like Germany, Spain etc. Which cricket board has as much money and resources as BCCI has? Not one is even close, India should be dominating cricket by default, even then it doesn't says a lot about the ability of BCCI as a sports body.

 

[sachin100]

I raised questions about Indian cricket under performing with regards to the resources it possesses which includes all forms of cricket + Tournaments. India doesn't dominate in Tests, especially in overseas and hasn't won any of the last 4 ICC Tournaments. It's a 0/2. Whereas SA has actually dominated Test cricket, at one point it held away Test trophies at Eng, Aus, NZ, SL and draws in India and UAE. India has never come close to replicating something like this in Tests.

India also at one point won every icc tournament within a 6 yr period which no team has ever achieved.

After 2011 wc it has won 2013 championship trophy and entered the final of 2014 t 20 world cup. Show me one team which had that record previously?

 

[Proactive_]

What nonsense u r talking about? English government supports only Olympic sports and they have nothing to do with football, rugby just like indian govt which only supports Olympic sports.

Dont post on some thing u don't know jack about. U mean to say England govt supports football, rugby inaddition to Olympic sports?

My point was concerning the talent pool. In England, they have talent pools for a variety of sports owing to planned spending and infrastructure. India has negligible world class sporting facilities except in cricket, hence most young aspiring sportspersons tend to gravitate towards cricket. India has the biggest talent pool for cricket by far with all world class facilities. Listen to what Abhinav Bindra said after winning the Olympic Gold medal, in which he said that he had 0 support and facilities from the government, he financed his entire training himself to get Gold for the country. In that regard, it's embarrassing that India isn't even the clear top cricketing nation.

 

[Proactive_]

India also at one point won every icc tournament within a 6 yr period which no team has ever achieved.

After 2011 wc it has won 2013 championship trophy and entered the final of 2014 t 20 world cup. Show me one team which had that record previously?

Australia:

2003 World Cup
2006 CT
2007 WC
2009 CT

4 Top ICC Tournaments in 6 years + staying Test No.1 for majority of that time.

 

[sachin100]

There is nothing illogical. Football is the most popular sport in most European countries, most of whom invest heavily in it on par with England like Germany, Spain etc. Which cricket board has as much money and resources as BCCI has? Not one is even close, India should be dominating cricket by default, even then it doesn't says a lot about the ability of BCCI as a sports body.

So going by u r own logic if England has the same if not more resources as others why their performance is abysmal compared to others?
U r the one making assumptions about money and talent? Then why that logic doesn't apply to England?

Do u mean to say that inspite of having the same resources and talent pool as others england r **** because?

 

[sachin100]

Australia:

2003 World Cup
2006 CT
2007 WC
2009 CT

4 Top ICC Tournaments in 6 years + staying Test No.1 for majority of that time.

What happened to t 20 wc in between?

 

[sachin100]

My point was concerning the talent pool. In England, they have talent pools for a variety of sports owing to planned spending and infrastructure. India has negligible world class sporting facilities except in cricket, hence most young aspiring sportspersons tend to gravitate towards cricket. India has the biggest talent pool for cricket by far with all world class facilities. Listen to what Abhinav Bindra said after winning the Olympic Gold medal, in which he said that he had 0 support and facilities from the government, he financed his entire training himself to get Gold for the country. In that regard, it's embarrassing that India isn't even the clear top cricketing nation.

Haha from government spending on all sports to now talent pool isn't it? How many goal posts u shift with every argument?

If they r so successful in Olympics with government spending then why their football and rugby teams r hopeless?

 

[Proactive_]

So going by u r own logic if England has the same if not more resources as others why their performance is abysmal compared to others?
U r the one making assumptions about money and talent? Then why that logic doesn't apply to England?

Do u mean to say that inspite of having the same resources and talent pool as others england r **** because?

Because there are countries who spend just as much and have a talent pool just as big if not larger than England at Football, nobody compares with India on either the monetary resources or the talent pool quantity.

What happened to t 20 wc in between?

T 20? . You think anybody rates WI as a cricketing nation today because they are 2 time T20 WC winners? Last time I heard, they failed to qualify for the real WC to take place in 2019.

 

[Proactive_]

Haha from government spending on all sports to now talent pool isn't it? How many goal posts u shift with every argument?

If they r so successful in Olympics with government spending then why their football and rugby teams r hopeless?

I've already covered this in like 10 posts in this thread. No wonder you'll ignore the point lol. There are various dimensions to an argument pal, just because you don't know stuff doesn't mean that it isn't valid. Learn it.

 

[sachin100]

There is nothing illogical. Football is the most popular sport in most European countries, most of whom invest heavily in it on par with England like Germany, Spain etc. Which cricket board has as much money and resources as BCCI has? Not one is even close, India should be dominating cricket by default, even then it doesn't says a lot about the ability of BCCI as a sports body.

Please tell me why inspite of having same or even better resources compared to other European countries England is abysmal in football and rugby?
If u have the same resources u expect similar results isn't it? That's the crux of u r argument isn't it?

Why is it not happening with England?

 

[Proactive_]

Please tell me why inspite of having same or even better resources compared to other European countries England is abysmal in football and rugby?
If u have the same resources u expect similar results isn't it? That's the crux of u r argument isn't it?

Why is it not happening with England?

Which country that has worse footballing resources, talent pool and popularity in Football has historically been better than England in Football. Tell me. England has never been below 16th out of 200 countries that have Football teams. India was at one point 7th out of 10 after their last series of away tours lol.

 

[sachin100]

Because there are countries who spend just as much and have a talent pool just as big if not larger than England at Football, nobody compares with India on either the monetary resources or the talent pool quantity.




T 20? . You think anybody rates WI as a cricketing nation today because they are 2 time T20 WC winners? Last time I heard, they failed to qualify for the real WC to take place in 2019.

So which r the four icc tournaments india hasn't won according to u?

Its only 2015 wc and 2017 champions trophy only isn't?

Why make factually wrong statements to suit u r case?

 

[bujhee kom]

India also at one point won every icc tournament within a 6 yr period which no team has ever achieved.

After 2011 wc it has won 2013 championship trophy and entered the final of 2014 t 20 world cup. Show me one team which had that record previously?

Prime Aus c.2003-2010. 2 CTs and 2 WCs.

 

[sachin100]

Which country that has worse footballing resources, talent pool and popularity in Football has historically been better than England in Football. Tell me. England has never been below 16th out of 200 countries that have Football teams. India was at one point 7th out of 10 after their last series of away tours lol.

Haha. According to u india needs to win every thing like icc tournaments, test cricket but for England world cups euro cups r not important. Instead friendly matches against minnows outside of world cup are important and u r boasting of a ranking of 16 th as some sort of acheivement.

They didn't even qualify for euros last time. So much for investment

 

[sachin100]

Prime Aus c.2003-2010. 2 CTs and 2 WCs.

When has aus won t 20 world cup?

 

[Proactive_]

Haha. According to u india needs to win every thing like icc tournaments, test cricket but for England world cups euro cups r not important. Instead friendly matches against minnows outside of world cup are important and u r boasting of a ranking of 16 th as some sort of acheivement.

They didn't even qualify for euros last time. So much for investment

16th out of 200 is still much better than being No.7 out of 10 in Tests which India was after their last away tours.

 

[Chrish]

LOL cutting down the test number!

 

[CanadianG00se]

OP is anything but Indian.

WE Indian fans are actually happy with how they do about their Job. Im sure BCCI dont give a s&it about some 'wannabe' Indian fans.

 

[sachin100]

Which country that has worse footballing resources, talent pool and popularity in Football has historically been better than England in Football. Tell me. England has never been below 16th out of 200 countries that have Football teams. India was at one point 7th out of 10 after their last series of away tours lol.

So u r logic of resources and performance is a myth isn't it? If England have equal resources it should produce equal results isn't it? Why is it not the case?

 

[CanadianG00se]

So u r logic of resources and performance is a myth isn't it? If England have equal resources it should produce equal results isn't it? Why is it not the case?

Logic doesnt go well with OP. He only have one logic and that is to bash India/BCCI/Indian cricketers.

Replying his post is pointless as he will shift goal post to prove his argument.

 

[Proactive_]

So u r logic of resources and performance is a myth isn't it? If England have equal resources it should produce equal results isn't it? Why is it not the case?

No, you tell me which country which country with lesser resources and talent pool than England in Football has done better historically than England at Football. That's what you're basically arguing. Also, lol at you ignoring the fact that India was once 7th out of 10 Test countries, that's much much more embarrassing than anything the English Football Team has ever gone through.

 

[sachin100]

16th out of 200 is still much better than being No.7 out of 10 in Tests which India was after their last away tours.

Yes football rankings are equivalent to cricket rankings isn't it?

Football is about world cups and euros but England is hopeless in that.

It is all the more strange that inspite of being a top 16 team it hasn't reached even a single final in decades

 

[Proactive_]

Yes football rankings are equivalent to cricket rankings isn't it?

Football is about world cups and euros but England is hopeless in that.

It is all the more strange that inspite of being a top 16 team it hasn't reached even a single final in decades

Anything English Football Team has gone through is still much better than India being 7th out of 10 in Tests lol. And in Football there are actually countries who have as much resources and talent pool as England has. Which country can you say the same for as compared to India at cricket? Don't dodge the question this time!

 

[sachin100]

No, you tell me which country which country with lesser resources and talent pool than England in Football has done better historically than England at Football. That's what you're basically arguing. Also, lol at you ignoring the fact that India was once 7th out of 10 Test countries, that's much much more embarrassing than anything the English Football Team has ever gone through.

Uruguay has won world cup twice.
Do u want other proofs?

R u going to say uruguay has better or equal resources to England?

 

[Proactive_]

Uruguay has won world cup twice.
Do u want other proofs?

R u going to say uruguay has better or equal resources to England?

WCs? That too the last of which came in 1950? Is that the be all and end all for you? So you think that WI of the last 15 years has been a better cricketing nation than SA because they have more ICC Tournaments? Uruguay's lowest ranking is 46. England has never gone below 16th.

 

[sachin100]

Anything English Football Team has gone through is still much better than India being 7th out of 10 in Tests lol. And in Football there are actually countries who have as much resources and talent pool as England has. Which country can you say the same for as compared to India at cricket? Don't dodge the question this time!

Yes England not winning any world cup since 50 yrs and not even qualifying for finals is a greater achievement than India winning every icc trophy not once but twice in u r favorite format the odis.

 

[sachin100]

WCs? That too the last of which came in 1950? Is that the be all and end all for you? So you think that WI of the last 15 years has been a better cricketing nation than SA because they have more ICC Tournaments? Uruguay's lowest ranking is 46. England has never gone below 16th.

Hahaha haha haha. Then why uruguay has won 2 wc inspite of poor resources according to u. It should not have happened isn't it?


In Football it is only world cups and euro or confederation cups that matter.

Others are called friendlies for a reason.

 

[sachin100]

WCs? That too the last of which came in 1950? Is that the be all and end all for you? So you think that WI of the last 15 years has been a better cricketing nation than SA because they have more ICC Tournaments? Uruguay's lowest ranking is 46. England has never gone below 16th.

According to u by default england should be in group 16 stage by default atleast and semifinalist and finalist according to the rankings. Why is it not so?

 

[Proactive_]

Hahaha haha haha. Then why uruguay has won 2 wc inspite of poor resources according to u. It should not have happened isn't it?


In Football it is only world cups and euro or confederation cups that matter.

Others are called friendlies for a reason.

According to u by default england should be in group 16 stage by default atleast and semifinalist and finalist according to the rankings. Why is it not so?

So you admit that WI has been a better cricketing nation than SA in the last 15 years because they've won more tournaments, right? Nice logic you got there.

 

[sachin100]

So you admit that WI has been a better cricketing nation than SA in the last 15 years because they've won more tournaments, right? Nice logic you got there.

West indies is a better cricket nation than south Africa can ever be.

Why only 15 yrs?

 

[Proactive_]

West indies is a better cricket nation than south Africa can ever be.

Why only 15 yrs?

Because in the last 15 years WI has won 3 ICC Tournaments while SA has won 0. So, according to your logic WI has been a much better cricketing nation coz screw rankings!!

 

[sachin100]

Because in the last 15 years WI has won 3 ICC Tournaments while SA has won 0. So, according to your logic WI has been a much better cricketing nation coz screw rankings!!

What is the use of winning meaningless bilaterals and going awol in main events?

 

[Proactive_]

What is the use of winning meaningless bilaterals and going awol in main events?

You mean like what Kohli does?

 

[sachin100]

Because in the last 15 years WI has won 3 ICC Tournaments while SA has won 0. So, according to your logic WI has been a much better cricketing nation coz screw rankings!!

Why not before that? West indies won every thing in hindsight before that.

Tell me how wi became a dominant force with meagre resources compared to eng, Australia?

 

[sachin100]

You mean like what Kohli does?

Yes like the same southafrican team

 

[Proactive_]

Why not before that? West indies won every thing in hindsight before that.

Tell me how wi became a dominant force with meagre resources compared to eng, Australia?

Because they had the talent pool to compensate for that during that time which they now don't. Whereas Aus and Eng have been Top cricketing nations for 100+ years and have never been relegated to near minnow status like WI has been recently.

 

[sachin100]

You mean like what Kohli does?

I already said he failed in icc tournaments. When we countered u with other legends who failed even miserably u shifted from icc tournaments to triseries and what not

 

[Proactive_]

I already said he failed in icc tournaments. When we countered u with other legends who failed even miserably u shifted from icc tournaments to triseries and what not

So you agree that Kohli isn't a great batsman since he fails in the "main events" while being godly in bilaterals? You just said it..

 

[sachin100]

So you agree that Kohli isn't a great batsman since he fails in the "main events" while being godly in bilaterals? You just said it..

If u agree that other legends r also not so great by the same criterion its a yes

 

[Proactive_]

If u agree that other legends r also not so great by the same criterion its a yes

Well you just said it, it's not me.. you said what's the point in performing in bilaterals when you got AWOL in main events lol.

 

[sachin100]

Well you just said it, it's not me.. you said what's the point in performing in bilaterals when you got AWOL in main events lol.

I am talking about u r logic in other thread and not this ine

 

[Proactive_]

I am talking about u r logic in other thread and not this ine

So you mean something which suits you in one thread doesn't suit you in other. Niceee.. keep exposing yourself lol.

 

[sachin100]

So you mean something which suits you in one thread doesn't suit you in other. Niceee.. keep exposing yourself lol.

I m using u r logic and not mine. U r the one whose logic shifts with every post and not mine.

 

[bujhee kom]

When has aus won t 20 world cup?

Who mentioned T20 WC?

The main WC and 2 CTs in the cited period. The issue was ICC trophy wins. They got the main 50 over crowns twice each in that period. Seen?

 

[sachin100]

Who mentioned T20 WC?

The main WC and 2 CTs in the cited period. The issue was ICC trophy wins. They got the main 50 over crowns twice each in that period. Seen?

Read my post again. I asked which team has won every icc tournaments in a span of 6 yrs? Is it Australia?

 

[Dingolfy]

You cant expect efficient and honest organizations in sub-continent where people dont even follow basic traffic rules.
But what amuses me is that after having all this money, they still struggle to find good athletes to cricket.Just compare Indian cricketers against the folks in Pro-Kabaddi.Forget about the Haryanvis and Punjabis, even the 6 foot 3 Tamil all-rounder Prapanjan would break the bones of entire Indian cricket team.When even Kerala university teams have 190cm plus spikers who can jump several feets in ****** outdoor courts and smash the living bejesus of a volleyball, our mighty BCCI finds chubby shorties like Thakur as 'phast' bowlers.And all these other athletes come through govt-run SAI hostels which has mediocre infrastructure.

 

[Oxfordchamp]

First of all, it is very pretty silly to assume that huge financial resources translates into domination in sports...that's pretty illogical...if that's the case Manchester United would be dominating soccer clubs and England would have won lot more world cups in soccer....why can't people understand this basic concept...Brazil and South American countries won many world cups in soccer between 1940s and now though they are not rich...England though a very rich country didn't win much...With all the resources and money they have ,USA could be dominating all the sports but they don't.
BCCi has done a good job in developing a system which produces a and nurtures a pipeline of extremely talented cricketers and making them world class superstars..if you make sure you identify talent and groom them, that's a job well done...that's where PCB has failed...many potential superstars from Pakistan were nipped in the bud and now they don't have a single icon after wasimakram..

 

[Chief Destroyer]

I truly believe BCCI would be in a better place if they had someone like OP at the helm.

 

[CanadianG00se]

I truly believe BCCI would be in a better place if they had someone like OP at the helm.

Im glad that we dont have someone like OP as BCCI chief. As of now BCCI is doing great job and looking after current and former players.

 

[Oxfordchamp]

May God bless OP with the IQ level to understand that sports are played by humans not machines..

 

[sachin100]

May God bless OP with the IQ level to understand that sports are played by humans not machines..

Thank god. Every poster is seeing through his illogical posts and stating as such.

His claim that he is a neutral and indian fan are exposed when he itself accepted that he is not an indian fan

 

[Mp812]

Based on your questions...i have some soccer analogy questions

1) Why isn't India already dominating world cricket in all three formats like any country with that sort of resources and culture should?
Why is China not a top 5 soccer top team ?

2) Why is Australia, not India the victor of 4 of the past 5 World cups?
Why do Brazil, Italy, Germany soccer World champs 4 times and not USA, China , Russia ( they have loads of money and excellent facilities)? Why has england won soccer cup just once despite having EPL for last 50 years ?

6) Why have the other cricketing countries despite having a fraction of the resources that India has and having cricket much lower in their sporting hierarchy in popularity or being handicapped by quota policies still continue to do just as good or even better than India?
Why does South Korea qualify for soccer Worldcup more oftern than China despite China having bigger population , more money and facilities ?

If you can can find answert soccer questions...youll find analogy for cricket answers

 

[Executioner]

Cricket is a difficult sport to master.

I have seen how much criticism Bangladesh has got, but people who try to understand the obstacles will only understand the difficulty.

Like many said, making an investment and getting returns don't happen in short intervals. It takes years sometimes decades. Some have a bit of luck at first like Sri Lanka but most don't. Sri Lanka are the one team who has had immense return which BanglaDesh and India never had.

But Lanka are just an exception. Lanka just had a golden period of 20 odd years. After that they are being beaten black and blue by teams home and away. On the other hand Bangladesh are definitely doing better and obviously India too(India are the number 1 test side. Lanka nearly lost to Zim at home)

Some people need to understand that cricket is so much more an individual game than we think. Look at Rashid Khan. How good is he. He is a freak of nature and he isn't the product of Afghanistan domestics. He just came out of nowhere and probably help Afghanistan topple teams like Ireland. Unfortunately for Ireland they haven't produced a player of similar calibre as Rashid Khan.

People need to understand that luck is a big factor. Luck when it comes to a talented player arising out of nowhere. In a sport input and output aren't as well correlated as may think

 

[sachin100]

Cricket is a difficult sport to master.

I have seen how much criticism Bangladesh has got, but people who try to understand the obstacles will only understand the difficulty.

Like many said, making an investment and getting returns don't happen in short intervals. It takes years sometimes decades. Some have a bit of luck at first like Sri Lanka but most don't. Sri Lanka are the one team who has had immense return which BanglaDesh and India never had.

But Lanka are just an exception. Lanka just had a golden period of 20 odd years. After that they are being beaten black and blue by teams home and away. On the other hand Bangladesh are definitely doing better and obviously India too(India are the number 1 test side. Lanka nearly lost to Zim at home)

Some people need to understand that cricket is so much more an individual game than we think. Look at Rashid Khan. How good is he. He is a freak of nature and he isn't the product of Afghanistan domestics. He just came out of nowhere and probably help Afghanistan topple teams like Ireland. Unfortunately for Ireland they haven't produced a player of similar calibre as Rashid Khan.

People need to understand that luck is a big factor. Luck when it comes to a talented player arising out of nowhere. In a sport input and output aren't as well correlated as may think

No. According to his logic money and resources r the ones which matter and individual talent is secondary.

 

[Proactive_]

They have played less number of tests than sl pak played in the last 10 yrs.

And they'll be playing 6 Tests along with a whole bunch of limited overs cricket in a span of 4 months., the next series coming in at the most inopportune time leaving them with barely 2 days worth of practice before a tough overseas tour.

 

[sachin100]

And they'll be playing 6 Tests along with a whole bunch of limited overs cricket in a span of 4 months., the next series coming in at the most inopportune time leaving them with barely 2 days worth of practice before a tough overseas tour.

Sl forced india to prepone next yr series because sl wants india to tour for their independence series at that time.

U will not accept it any way. U can continue to troll

 

[Proactive_]

Sl forced india to prepone next yr series because sl wants india to tour for their independence series at that time.

U will not accept it any way. U can continue to troll

You're delusional beyond belief if you think the SRI LANKAN board of all can force BCCI to do anything, let alone dictating when to host a series. The only motive of the forthcoming series is to put some more cash in the BCCIs pockets, nothing more nothing less. And to make it worse, it comes at a cost of prospectively ruining India's tour of SA owing to:

1) Lack of practice and acclimatization.

2) Burning out the cricketers in a series immediately before it which could have easily been avoided and postponed to some more opportune time in 2018-19.