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Is BCCI the most inefficient sports body in the world? The story of failure of Indian cricket

You're delusional beyond belief if you think the SRI LANKAN board of all can force BCCI to do anything, let alone dictating when to host a series. The only motive of the forthcoming series is to put some more cash in the BCCIs pockets, nothing more nothing less. And to make it worse, it comes at a cost of prospectively ruining India's tour of SA owing to:

1) Lack of practice and acclimatization.

2) Burning out the cricketers in a series immediately before it which could have easily been avoided and postponed to some more opportune time in 2018-19.

When you know nothing, then please believe when a Indian is saying something about his country. BCCI agreed to play the Independence Cup because the Two Prime Ministers of the two countries discussed this issue.

Sumathipala confirmed that India agreed to participate following discussions between the Prime Ministers of the respective countries. "India has already given their willingness to play the Independence Cup in 2018 in Sri Lanka after Prime Minister Ranil Wickramasinghe discussed this with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi recently," he said.

http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-new...ee-to-play-2018-independence-cup-in-sri-lanka

As i told you, you are free to bash India and BCCI or Indians but atleast do it on the basis of facts.

Khud Pata Na Ho To Kisi Aur Ki Sunni Chahiye.

Let the Indian board worry about their cricketer's well being.They have been the best at taking care of their cricketers.
[MENTION=144593]sachin100[/MENTION]
 
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When you know nothing, then please believe when a Indian is saying something about his country. BCCI agreed to play the Independence Cup because the Two Prime Ministers of the two countries discussed this issue.



http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-new...ee-to-play-2018-independence-cup-in-sri-lanka

As i told you, you are free to bash India and BCCI or Indians but atleast do it on the basis of facts.

Khud Pata Na Ho To Kisi Aur Ki Sunni Chahiye.

Let the Indian board worry about their cricketer's well being.They have been the best at taking care of their cricketers.
[MENTION=144593]sachin100[/MENTION]
Bhai he will never rate any Indian performance and his changes of stance r lol worthy.

For some players their performances are worth less but for others against same teams they r atg performances
 
When you know nothing, then please believe when a Indian is saying something about his country. BCCI agreed to play the Independence Cup because the Two Prime Ministers of the two countries discussed this issue.



http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-new...ee-to-play-2018-independence-cup-in-sri-lanka

As i told you, you are free to bash India and BCCI or Indians but atleast do it on the basis of facts.

Let the Indian board worry about their cricketer's well being.They have been the best at taking care of their cricketers.
[MENTION=144593]sachin100[/MENTION]

Yes because the Nov-Dec 2017 is the only window, right before an important overseas tour in which this series could have been held, right? How about hosting it at an opportune time in 2018 or better during the home season in 2019? Why to put YOUR OWN TEAM in an unnecessary strife right before it's first overseas tours in ages. You might see a ton of sense in this but I just don't, other than making a bit more cash.
 
Yes because the Nov-Dec 2017 is the only window, right before an important overseas tour in which this series could have been held, right? How about hosting it at an opportune time in 2018 or better during the home season in 2019? Why to put YOUR OWN TEAM in an unnecessary strife right before it's first overseas tours in ages. You might see a ton of sense in this but I just don't, other than making a bit more cash.
Why r u so much worried anyway for a non indian fan?
 
Yes because the Nov-Dec 2017 is the only window, right before an important overseas tour in which this series could have been held, right? How about hosting it at an opportune time in 2018 or better during the home season in 2019? Why to put YOUR OWN TEAM in an unnecessary strife right before it's first overseas tours in ages. You might see a ton of sense in this but I just don't, other than making a bit more cash.

You see, other than you, the people who actually matter also see sense in this.

Btw this cash is the thing why cricketers in India from certain level up even in domestic cricket are living a comfortable life.This cash is the reason why our players dont go around playing 3-4 T20 leagues and neglect First Class cricket.This cash is the reason why players of some countries dont try to sledge Indian cricketers regarding their financial background.This cash is the reason why BCCI has developed very good grass root facilities.Those whose boards dont have this kind of cash will cry foul about it.
 
You see, other than you, the people who actually matter also see sense in this.

Btw this cash is the thing why cricketers in India from certain level up even in domestic cricket are living a comfortable life.This cash is the reason why our players dont go around playing 3-4 T20 leagues and neglect First Class cricket.This cash is the reason why players of some countries dont try to sledge Indian cricketers regarding their financial background.This cash is the reason why BCCI has developed very good grass root facilities.Those whose boards dont have this kind of cash will cry foul about it.

All that cash still couldn't buy an overseas Test series victory in SA, Aus, Eng and NZ in the last 10 years though, and probably never will again if they keep arranging pointless home series in this manner right before important away tours, while people who care more about BCCIs "cash" rather than India's overseas performances would definitely not cry foul about it.
 
All that cash still couldn't buy an overseas Test series victory in SA, Aus, Eng and NZ in the last 10 years though, and probably never will again if they keep arranging pointless home series in this manner right before important away tours, while people who care more about BCCIs "cash" rather than India's overseas performances would definitely not cry foul about it.
India has won a series in eng, nz in the last ten yrs.

Please verify facts before u post rubbish
 
All that cash still couldn't buy an overseas Test series victory in SA, Aus, Eng and NZ in the last 10 years though, and probably never will again if they keep arranging pointless home series in this manner right before important away tours, while people who care more about BCCIs "cash" rather than India's overseas performances would definitely not cry foul about it.

India won a series in Eng in 2007 and in NZ in 2009. As i said bash India but Bash on facts.But since you are not a Indian fan you dont know the facts.Quite understandable.

So which Asian team has won a series in AUS and SA?Ever?NONE. So i guess every asian board is ignoring overseas performance.
 
India won a series in Eng in 2007 and in NZ in 2009. As i said bash India but Bash on facts.But since you are not a Indian fan you dont know the facts.Quite understandable.

So which Asian team has won a series in AUS and SA?Ever?NONE. So i guess every asian board is ignoring overseas performance.

England 2007 is beyond the 10 year period from today, although I admit it's my bad to oversee the NZ victory though. The only NZ tour that was on my mind was the one in which India came back winless facing a No.7 (or was it No.8?) NZ side, still my bad.

Also, none of the Asian boards boast to have that sort of "money" and the privileges that it brings with itself that the BCCI and it's sycophants on cricket message boards do.
 
England 2007 is beyond the 10 year period from today, although I admit it's my bad to oversee the NZ victory though. The only NZ tour that was on my mind was the one in which India came back winless facing a No.7 (or was it No.8?) NZ side, still my bad.

Also, none of the Asian boards boast to have that sort of "money" and the privileges that it brings with itself that the BCCI and it's sycophants on cricket message boards do.
Yes because it doesn't suit u r ten yr period it doesn't happen.
 
I'm pretty sure that if I leave it to you, you'll even include the 1986 victory in your 10 year period, so leave it.

U have included ind win in nz as loss and u r preaching here to me.

If we leave it to u u will say india hasn't done anything in their entire history
 
England 2007 is beyond the 10 year period from today, although I admit it's my bad to oversee the NZ victory though. The only NZ tour that was on my mind was the one in which India came back winless facing a No.7 (or was it No.8?) NZ side, still my bad.

Also, none of the Asian boards boast to have that sort of "money" and the privileges that it brings with itself that the BCCI and it's sycophants on cricket message boards do.

Ofcourse the 2007 win doesnt matter as it doesnt suit your agenda.


BCCI started earning big bucks in the mid 90s only.No Asian team has won a test series in AUS ever. Heck no one except India has even drawn a test series in Australia in 20 years.Leave a series, No Asian team has won a test match in Australia in 25 years except India.Leave a win, No Asian team has even drawn a test match in Australia in more than a decade, except India. Infact a non Indian Asian team has managed a total of 1 draw in Australia in 25 years. See what we are talking about here.
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Ofcourse the 2007 win doesnt matter as it doesnt suit your agenda.


BCCI started earning big bucks in the mid 90s only.No Asian team has won a test series in AUS ever. Heck no one except India has even drawn a test series in Australia in 20 years.Leave a series, No Asian team has won a test match in Australia in 25 years except India.Leave a win, No Asian team has even drawn a test match in Australia in more than a decade, except India. Infact a non Indian Asian team has managed a total of 1 draw in Australia in 25 years. See what we are talking about here.
[MENTION=144593]sachin100[/MENTION]
He does not want facts. For him other boards don't have same money as india and money means everything.

According to him money equals to best team
 
Ofcourse the 2007 win doesnt matter as it doesnt suit your agenda.


BCCI started earning big bucks in the mid 90s only.No Asian team has won a test series in AUS ever. Heck no one except India has even drawn a test series in Australia in 20 years.Leave a series, No Asian team has won a test match in Australia in 25 years except India.Leave a win, No Asian team has even drawn a test match in Australia in more than a decade, except India. Infact a non Indian Asian team has managed a total of 1 draw in Australia in 25 years. See what we are talking about here.
[MENTION=144593]sachin100[/MENTION]

Slight error. 22 years. Pakistan won in 95/96 :P
 
Ofcourse the 2007 win doesnt matter as it doesnt suit your agenda.


BCCI started earning big bucks in the mid 90s only.No Asian team has won a test series in AUS ever. Heck no one except India has even drawn a test series in Australia in 20 years.Leave a series, No Asian team has won a test match in Australia in 25 years except India.Leave a win, No Asian team has even drawn a test match in Australia in more than a decade, except India. Infact a non Indian Asian team has managed a total of 1 draw in Australia in 25 years. See what we are talking about here.
[MENTION=144593]sachin100[/MENTION]

20 years not 25 years. [MENTION=145164]Proactive_[/MENTION]
 
Slight error. 22 years. Pakistan won in 95/96 :P

The Sydney test 1995. You know i watched that match.People will talk about the two mushtaqs here esp Mushy.But i watched Wasim Akram bowl to Michael Slater.Believe me i have rarely seen such bowling.Magical.
 
The Sydney test 1995. You know i watched that match.People will talk about the two mushtaqs here esp Mushy.But i watched Wasim Akram bowl to Michael Slater.Believe me i have rarely seen such bowling.Magical.

Yeah I've seen that spell on YouTube . Slats was absolutely clueless in that spell and he wasn't a bad batsman at all!
 
Ofcourse the 2007 win doesnt matter as it doesnt suit your agenda.


BCCI started earning big bucks in the mid 90s only.No Asian team has won a test series in AUS ever. Heck no one except India has even drawn a test series in Australia in 20 years.Leave a series, No Asian team has won a test match in Australia in 25 years except India.Leave a win, No Asian team has even drawn a test match in Australia in more than a decade, except India. Infact a non Indian Asian team has managed a total of 1 draw in Australia in 25 years. See what we are talking about here.
[MENTION=144593]sachin100[/MENTION]

Well so since BCCI started earning big bucks in the mid nineties, it has won one series in NZ and one series in Eng in about a quarter of a century. Not exactly the most proficient use of those big bucks right there. And I don't know why you're shooting off other Asian countries' backs when they don't even claim to have a fraction of the monetary power that India possesses.
 
BCCI arent the most inefficient board. off the field they have made India into a financial powerhouse by maximising revenue and marketing opportunities for the team.

But BCCI are like the Arsenal board their main focus is on financial success and revenue generation. cricketing results are secondary.

they would tour england and aus every 2 years if they could even if the indian team lost 5-0 all the time. They dont really care about results unless it affects the bottom line.

as far as inefficient goes and just behaving like a joke sadly cricket boards have a rep for this.


PCB SLC WICB ZCB are all much bigger jokes.
 
Well so since BCCI started earning big bucks in the mid nineties, it has won one series in NZ and one series in Eng in about a quarter of a century. Not exactly the most proficient use of those big bucks right there. And I don't know why you're shooting off other Asian countries' backs when they don't even claim to have a fraction of the monetary power that India possesses.

India has done much better than other Asian teams in Australia.Seems that fact missed your head.

Btw changing a system that existed since 1947 takes a lot of time.A hell lot of time.
 
I agree with [MENTION=145164]Proactive_[/MENTION] here somewhat, with the amount of money and cricket playing population India has we should have been dominating cricket.. There are plenty of reasons why it does not happen BCCI might be just one of the minor reasons the major reasons are something else.

Let's see what happens in next 10-15 years maybe we see more improvementzz
 
I agree with [MENTION=145164]Proactive_[/MENTION] here somewhat, with the amount of money and cricket playing population India has we should have been dominating cricket.. There are plenty of reasons why it does not happen BCCI might be just one of the minor reasons the major reasons are something else.

Let's see what happens in next 10-15 years maybe we see more improvementzz

Improvement will always be gradual and not some overnight magic. Now compare Indian team of 80s-90s with the one post IPL. We were borderline minnows in 90s desite playing cricket for like 60 years. Now that we are financial hub of cricket, we are seeing significant changes even in our onfield performance. In last 10 years, Indian team have the best WL ratio in ICC event. In 90s even reaching semis of an ICC WC was like an achievment, but now anything less than a victory seems failure. With our standards, our expectations have also gone up. Despite losing CT final, i think we are looking at the best Indian team ever, even better than 83 and 2011WC winning teams.
 
Improvement will always be gradual and not some overnight magic. Now compare Indian team of 80s-90s with the one post IPL. We were borderline minnows in 90s desite playing cricket for like 60 years. Now that we are financial hub of cricket, we are seeing significant changes even in our onfield performance. In last 10 years, Indian team have the best WL ratio in ICC event. In 90s even reaching semis of an ICC WC was like an achievment, but now anything less than a victory seems failure. With our standards, our expectations have also gone up. Despite losing CT final, i think we are looking at the best Indian team ever, even better than 83 and 2011WC winning teams.
But not better than 2003 WC squad, a couple of changes in there & it was easily our best ODI team ever, too bad we ran into the GOAT ODI team in the finals :19:
 
India has done much better than other Asian teams in Australia.Seems that fact missed your head.

Btw changing a system that existed since 1947 takes a lot of time.A hell lot of time.

You sound like a politician with this one. "We've got all the money, facilities and everything in between but we need time, 25 years is not enough.. need at least 50".

Sorry mate, a generation has passed and India is still woeful overseas. India had drawn series vs Aus away in the 80s and won in England, not to mention winning the WC, fast forward 30 years later when all the big MONEYzZzZzZ has come in, India has actually not even drawn a series in Aus in the last 14 years and not won in England in 10. What exactly has the money changed? Because it doesn't seem much to me as far as results overseas are concerned.
 
You sound like a politician with this one. "We've got all the money, facilities and everything in between but we need time, 25 years is not enough.. need at least 50".

Sorry mate, a generation has passed and India is still woeful overseas. India had drawn series vs Aus away in the 80s and won in England, not to mention winning the WC, fast forward 30 years later when all the big MONEYzZzZzZ has come in, India has actually not even drawn a series in Aus in the last 14 years and not won in England in 10. What exactly has the money changed? Because it doesn't seem much to me as far as results overseas are concerned.
haha.they have drawn a series in sa,won in eng,won in nz,drawn a series in aus in 2003,lost in 2007 due to disgraceful umpiring
 
But not better than 2003 WC squad, a couple of changes in there & it was easily our best ODI team ever, too bad we ran into the GOAT ODI team in the finals :19:

Current team have the potential to be the GREATEST INDIAN TEAM EVER. Although currently they may be touch behind 2003 WC team. Current team just need to figure out #5 slot and replace aging Dhoni with R Pant and see how this team get transformed into beast. :hafeez2
Only England would be able to challenge us, however their bowling is club level.
 
Improvement will always be gradual and not some overnight magic. Now compare Indian team of 80s-90s with the one post IPL. We were borderline minnows in 90s desite playing cricket for like 60 years. Now that we are financial hub of cricket, we are seeing significant changes even in our onfield performance. In last 10 years, Indian team have the best WL ratio in ICC event. In 90s even reaching semis of an ICC WC was like an achievment, but now anything less than a victory seems failure. With our standards, our expectations have also gone up. Despite losing CT final, i think we are looking at the best Indian team ever, even better than 83 and 2011WC winning teams.


Of course it will be gradual but I'm still skeptical about it.. The mindset of India as a nation is not of a sporting nation it's slowly changing but till sports (cricket in this case) is seen as a viable profession by the masses you would continue to lose talented young kids to engineers/doctors/government jobs..

Lets see how it goes maybe if we both are still alive in next 15 odd years we can bump this thread and talk about our glories or failures..
 
As sports fans we really don't enjoy seeing this monotonous medal tally in Olympics every time with USA, GB, China, Russia, Japan and other bigger nations (with so-called infrastructures as mentioned in this thread) topping the table. It looks mechanical & robotic circus. A proper fan will enjoy the success of smaller nations with their limited infrastructure trying to compete & win against the best in some sports... We should not laugh at these lesser nations for their economy and inability to provide facilities to their players! At least feel sympath (actually proud) of these players who are trying hard! If sports is all about just providing infrastructure, facility, training & practice and then creating machine-like players with the results of games known before, then what's the point of watching & enjoying the sports?

It is impossible for a nation like India to match the medal-tally of USA even in next 100 years. Just it is impossible. You know how a nation like USA is formed and on what basis? On the other hand a nation like India which was attacked for several centuries! There are many "problems" on one side and there are many "comforts" on the other side! Absolute wide gap! If you say Indian system (not just BCCI) is corrupted, then we can say the very method of forming a nation like USA and the historical-invasion attitude of European countries (even relevant today indirectly in the name of globalization) is 1 billion times more corrupted idea than politics in Indian System (We do have at least some common people in India who are happy & patient about smaller things in life! But in USA even a 5 year kid wants more, more & more!) So we find happiness in small things like winning an odd medal (a gold medal is such a big one because we know that we at least are best in the world in at least one sport for at least that year!) Heck we feel happiness that we have dominated (at least in terms of economy & finances) in one sport (cricket) even if it is not considered in Olympics or not popular globally! Otherwise we should go sick & live in depression! We are doing pretty good in that sport if not the dominating best (to expect that much is a bit too much at least if you understood the essence of my post and not the demands of OP!)
 
Replace the word "inefficient" with "efficient" then the title is perfect. But then the OP specifically wanted to be at his peak denial mode.:srini
 
Current team have the potential to be the GREATEST INDIAN TEAM EVER. Although currently they may be touch behind 2003 WC team. Current team just need to figure out #5 slot and replace aging Dhoni with R Pant and see how this team get transformed into beast. :hafeez2
Only England would be able to challenge us, however their bowling is club level.
Has he done anything spectacular other than slogging in IPL to warrant replacement of somebody like Dhoni? And I have not heard much good things about his keeping either.He had one good Ranji season but then failed in SA triangular series and struggled against WI in his first match of all teams.Above all ,he is an opener and I don't think he has not done anything worthwhile yet to justify replacing somebody like Dhoni in Indian middle order.He is still young and will have plenty of chances.Let him grind out few seasons in Ranji and A -tours and then we can decide whether he is good enough to replace Dhoni.
 
Has he done anything spectacular other than slogging in IPL to warrant replacement of somebody like Dhoni? And I have not heard much good things about his keeping either.He had one good Ranji season but then failed in SA triangular series and struggled against WI in his first match of all teams.Above all ,he is an opener and I don't think he has not done anything worthwhile yet to justify replacing somebody like Dhoni in Indian middle order.He is still young and will have plenty of chances.Let him grind out few seasons in Ranji and A -tours and then we can decide whether he is good enough to replace Dhoni.

Shah on the other hand is a very good wicketkeeper and has also scored a century in an IPL final.
 
Has he done anything spectacular other than slogging in IPL to warrant replacement of somebody like Dhoni? And I have not heard much good things about his keeping either.He had one good Ranji season but then failed in SA triangular series and struggled against WI in his first match of all teams.Above all ,he is an opener and I don't think he has not done anything worthwhile yet to justify replacing somebody like Dhoni in Indian middle order.He is still young and will have plenty of chances.Let him grind out few seasons in Ranji and A -tours and then we can decide whether he is good enough to replace Dhoni.

what will india gain by playing with over the hill dhoni.have u seen his performances in last ct 2017.

he will be 38 by next world cup and besides world cup final he is literally a passenger in every icc tournament
 
what will india gain by playing with over the hill dhoni.have u seen his performances in last ct 2017.

he will be 38 by next world cup and besides world cup final he is literally a passenger in every icc tournament

He wasn't the only one who failed in CT FInal. You have also seen how he saved our backside in SL , Haven't you? And you have seen how Pakistan is struggling now after their seniors left and also Lankans earlier against us. Dhoni is worth his weight in gold in our ODI middle order and others are still raw and yet to stabilize.
IMO, Pant is yet to show anything that shows he is an earth-shattering talent.He struggled every time he stepped out of India and was batting like a deer in front of headlights against WI of all teams.And his keeping is not yet up to International standard.Last thing India would want is a mediocre keeper who can bat and we all know how Kamran Akmal ended up.
 
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Has he done anything spectacular other than slogging in IPL to warrant replacement of somebody like Dhoni? And I have not heard much good things about his keeping either.He had one good Ranji season but then failed in SA triangular series and struggled against WI in his first match of all teams.Above all ,he is an opener and I don't think he has not done anything worthwhile yet to justify replacing somebody like Dhoni in Indian middle order.He is still young and will have plenty of chances.Let him grind out few seasons in Ranji and A -tours and then we can decide whether he is good enough to replace Dhoni.

Dude im not Dhoni hater, on the contrary im his fan. Ive been collecting Dhoni jersey for years and it would really make me sad to see him go, however team balance shouldnt be compromised. Coming to your comment on Pant, well you cant literally brush him aside based on one T20 innings. He should be given at least 2-3 series before making a call. If player like Jadhav can be picked despite his proven failure then i see no reason why Pant shouldnt be selected.

Coming to Dhoni, i still think he is best gloveman in the country and he also provides guidance to Kohli at times, which is very beneficial. However, Dhoni the batsman have regressed greatly and we need to evaluate as to whether we can afford to carry Dhoni the keeper in the team or not. With Jadhav struggling, and Dhoni losing his Mojo, our lower order is very fragile and could easily choke up an easy chase( like 4th ODI).
 
Dude im not Dhoni hater, on the contrary im his fan. Ive been collecting Dhoni jersey for years and it would really make me sad to see him go, however team balance shouldnt be compromised. Coming to your comment on Pant, well you cant literally brush him aside based on one T20 innings. He should be given at least 2-3 series before making a call. If player like Jadhav can be picked despite his proven failure then i see no reason why Pant shouldnt be selected.

Coming to Dhoni, i still think he is best gloveman in the country and he also provides guidance to Kohli at times, which is very beneficial. However, Dhoni the batsman have regressed greatly and we need to evaluate as to whether we can afford to carry Dhoni the keeper in the team or not. With Jadhav struggling, and Dhoni losing his Mojo, our lower order is very fragile and could easily choke up an easy chase( like 4th ODI).
You can't compare Jadhav who has been a consistent performer in domestics for a long time with a new kid like Pant.And just because Dhoni is regressing, you cant replace him with somebody who is yet to prove his worth, both in keeping and batting.
Indian Senior team is not a place to experiment new kids. A teams are for that purpose and that is how Manish Pandey got into the team after performing consistently.Pant is yet to do that and hence in IMHO,doesn't meet the minimum standard to be in Indian Senior Team yet.
 
Further illustration of the thread title today.

Richest cricket board in the world yet all the major centers don't even have the requisite machinery for proper drainage. No rain since morning yet the ground couldn't be made ready. Shameful. 30,000 people waiting for hours only to be left disappointed. A similar occurrence happened at the Eden Gardens as well not too long ago as well.

What's the point of this money and privileges when you can't even ensure the basic facilities any organization of such power and clout would be expected to possesses? Is all the money only to fill the coffers of the high ranking officials?
 
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Another feather in BCCI's cap. Scheduling a Test in a city that is facing catastrophic levels of pollution for the past month or so. Can we please get some cricket minded people instead of these money scrounging politicians please.
 
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