Is cricket ready to the reintroduce Champions League T20?

[Cricfan4eva]

Champions League in its last iteration was a shallow, meaningless tournament to just fill the coffers of CSA, CA and BCCI.

With absolutely zero context the tournament was launched between teams that were mis-matched beyond reason.

However now with all major cricketing nations having their own version of PL. Teams will more or less be of similar quality. So a champions league at this point will be much more meaningful and actually be interesting to follow.

If SA's Global League is a success, IMO relaunching CL should be the way to go.

IMO it wont just be great tournament in itself but also add more importance to the existing PLs.

(Note: Test purists, please excuse yourselves from this thread)

 

[hafeezrocks]

Not a fan of Tests but that was one hell of a boring tournament that doesn't need to be brought back.

 

[Slog]

OP, How do you envisage this happening when you have the West Indian, Kiwis, Pakistanis (except IPL) and Saffers forming the core of teams in most leagues?

For eg someone like Gayle plays in 4 different teams, McCullum in 3 and so on.

What will most likely happen is that the player will choose the team which pays most so by default IPl teams will retain their foreign players but the ones from PSL, BPL etc wont.

As a result it will mostly be local players for most teams.

Finally. Add the fact that due to the scheduling, such a tournament is BOUND to clash with a series or 2, you will egt a very diluted quality of team playing

 

[hadi123]

I would love the CLT20 to happen. There isn't much International Cricket at that time period anyway and I really enjoyed it tbh. I think it needs to be marketed better etc cos it seemed like BCCI didn't really care about it. If they make it more of a big deal like they did IPL, it could be a success. Also gives extra motivation to win leagues.

 

[USofA]

BCCI/IPL do not want anything to do with CL any more. They are out of it. Which leaves the rest of the boards to reboot this thing.

It has been mentioned several times that the reason CL failed was because of too many IPL teams. With IPL out the rest of the leagues can organize it the right way as desired by many. But I seriously doubt if any of the boards have the capacity/leadership to organize CL.

 

[Major]

No need.

Ipl had 3 teams big bash had 2 others had 1, it was ridiculous.

There should be equal number of teams. Plus, a player should choose his cl team affiliation year advance

 

[cricketjoshila]

BCCI/IPL do not want anything to do with CL any more. They are out of it. Which leaves the rest of the boards to reboot this thing.

It has been mentioned several times that the reason CL failed was because of too many IPL teams. With IPL out the rest of the leagues can organize it the right way as desired by many. But I seriously doubt if any of the boards have the capacity/leadership to organize CL.

Can you tell me who has mentioned that CLT20 failed due to many IPL teams?

 

[cricketjoshila]

No need.

Ipl had 3 teams big bash had 2 others had 1, it was ridiculous.

There should be equal number of teams. Plus, a player should choose his cl team affiliation year advance

Ipl had 3 teams eng aus and SA 2 teams each.Sl WI and NZ 1 team each.

This was chosen on basis of the quality of the leagues.Does UCL allow same number of teams to qualify from England and Portugal?

 

[USofA]

Can you tell me who has mentioned that CLT20 failed due to many IPL teams?

I was just mentioning this forum.

 

[USofA]

No need.

Ipl had 3 teams big bash had 2 others had 1, it was ridiculous.

There should be equal number of teams. Plus, a player should choose his cl team affiliation year advance

IPL is no longer interested. The rest of the leagues are free to reboot this and do it with equal number of teams. But they will not, because nobody has guts/wherewithal.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I was just mentioning this forum.

Yea.Because i have heard otherwise.

 

[Amir]

It will only work if they limit the IPL teams. I get the whole viewership thing but what is the point of a league with 5 IPL teams? it is jsut IPL lite. Have two IPL teams. Let the competition run its course, eventually it will become more prestigious and in time more competitive. Rather than just cave after one season and start slotting in more IPL teams. What is the point then?

Also to make it more competitive, make it so each squad can only announce a max of 4 foreign players for a squad of 15 for the tournament. That way, it releases the other foreign players to play for other teams (if they double booked) and if a foreign player gets injured, then its tough cookies and you have to play with your bench. Would create more intrigue.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Champions League in its last iteration was a shallow, meaningless tournament to just fill the coffers of CSA, CA and BCCI.

With absolutely zero context the tournament was launched between teams that were mis-matched beyond reason.

However now with all major cricketing nations having their own version of PL. Teams will more or less be of similar quality. So a champions league at this point will be much more meaningful and actually be interesting to follow.

If SA's Global League is a success, IMO relaunching CL should be the way to go.

IMO it wont just be great tournament in itself but also add more importance to the existing PLs.

(Note: Test purists, please excuse yourselves from this thread)

The only way to bring back the CLT20 is by making the players commit to one franchise/club to a certain period of time i.e. football style. The franchises can have a release clause for all of their players, local or otherwise. In this way small franchises can make some good money out of selling their local and overseas stars. The downside of such system will be that players associated with IPL franchises will set huge amount of money for the release clause to be triggered. And since most of the players would prefer to make big bucks in IPL, the IPL would be the most lucrative league for the players. SO my conclusion is that unless the game grows exponentially throughout the globe there is no chance in hell to bring the CLT20 back!

 

[USofA]

It will only work if they limit the IPL teams. I get the whole viewership thing but what is the point of a league with 5 IPL teams? it is jsut IPL lite. Have two IPL teams. Let the competition run its course, eventually it will become more prestigious and in time more competitive. Rather than just cave after one season and start slotting in more IPL teams. What is the point then?

Also to make it more competitive, make it so each squad can only announce a max of 4 foreign players for a squad of 15 for the tournament. That way, it releases the other foreign players to play for other teams (if they double booked) and if a foreign player gets injured, then its tough cookies and you have to play with your bench. Would create more intrigue.

I agree that CL has potential. But as of now the IPL is no longer interested. Otherwise the CL would still be on. So the onus is on other leagues to organize. That means it can still have 8 teams without the IPL. Eight teams is enough for a tournament.

 

[Major]

Ipl had 3 teams eng aus and SA 2 teams each.Sl WI and NZ 1 team each.

This was chosen on basis of the quality of the leagues.Does UCL allow same number of teams to qualify from England and Portugal?

Oh bhai. If bcci took a crap you would even praise that.


Why bring ucl into this? Thats irrelevent.

Football leagues and cricket leagues are different to each other in every way

 

[Major]

IPL is no longer interested. The rest of the leagues are free to reboot this and do it with equal number of teams. But they will not, because nobody has guts/wherewithal.

At first you said no one had the capacity or leadership now you say no one has the guts.

So basically bcci has everything and other countries dont.

Let me remind you, countries like ireland and afghanistan were able to make a first class tournament happen.

So everyone collaborating into making a league isnt a problem.

Probpem is cost and profit.

But then again, you also would praise bcci even if it took a dump

 

[USofA]

At first you said no one had the capacity or leadership now you say no one has the guts.

So basically bcci has everything and other countries dont.

Let me remind you, countries like ireland and afghanistan were able to make a first class tournament happen.

So everyone collaborating into making a league isnt a problem.

Probpem is cost and profit.

But then again, you also would praise bcci even if it took a dump

When I say Guts, Capacity what I meant was risk taking. Perhaps poor choice of words. But my point remains the same that I do not see any of the leagues/boards taking this up and starting CL again.

 

[USofA]

At first you said no one had the capacity or leadership now you say no one has the guts.

So basically bcci has everything and other countries dont.

Let me remind you, countries like ireland and afghanistan were able to make a first class tournament happen.

So everyone collaborating into making a league isnt a problem.

Probpem is cost and profit.

But then again, you also would praise bcci even if it took a dump

Also the main problem as per many posters her was the number of IPL teams and not cost or profit (perhaps secondary). I remember several posts where people thought that having equal representation would make the league succeed. Well, here is an opportunity to do it right. But no takers....yet.

 

[CanadianG00se]

At first you said no one had the capacity or leadership now you say no one has the guts.

So basically bcci has everything and other countries dont.

Let me remind you, countries like ireland and afghanistan were able to make a first class tournament happen.

So everyone collaborating into making a league isnt a problem.

Probpem is cost and profit.

But then again, you also would praise bcci even if it took a dump

Starting a first class domestic tournament is not as same as CL. The money involved in latter is in millions of dollars that requires proper planning, and ability to generate the cash requires to hold the tournament. Apart from BCC, Id say ECB has that kind of cash to hold the league. However, i just dont think champions league t20 would work even if it has to brought back and have equal representation. The main reason is players affilation, some players would easily qualified for more than 1 club and thus club with less fund will lose out.

Until and unless players have some form of loyalty with just one club, CL would just be an epic fail like before

 

[silentkiller187]

the only issue is availability of players, if one player plays for 3 or 4 different teams across the globe and they all make the league , where does his loyalty lie? This takes out the competitive, passionate nature making it hard for fans to get behind their respective teams. The best way to make it work would be to introduce a quota of 3 or 4 foreign players in a single team, this will allow local players a chance to prosper and at the same time there will be enough cricketers with real quality to be spread around.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Oh bhai. If bcci took a crap you would even praise that.


Why bring ucl into this? Thats irrelevent.

Football leagues and cricket leagues are different to each other in every way

The concept of qualification of CLT20 was based on UCL.

Basically you dont have an answer so make personal comments.

 

[LastManstanding]

Not a big enough market outside India. That was the reason it was played in India and had more teams from India. Even then it failed to attract Indian crowds.

 

[ExpressPacer]

I think it was a very good idea.

 

[kingusama92]

It's a nice idea if club cricket was the primary format like football or North American sports (NHL, NBA, NFL).

With the last Champions League T20, you had players who had to choose between teams meaning someone would lose a key player from their XI.

You can't have that happening!

The only way it can be brought back is if the T20 market is standardized and players are restricted to one team per year/season.

Also, the IPL teams would have to be limited. It's silly to give one league additional teams regardless of their market size.

 

[USofA]

It's a nice idea if club cricket was the primary format like football or North American sports (NHL, NBA, NFL).

With the last Champions League T20, you had players who had to choose between teams meaning someone would lose a key player from their XI.

You can't have that happening!

The only way it can be brought back is if the T20 market is standardized and players are restricted to one team per year/season.

Also, the IPL teams would have to be limited. It's silly to give one league additional teams regardless of their market size.

Any future CL would likely be with zero IPL teams, as IPL has no interest in CL. The opportunity is there for someone else to step up and run this. Will anyone is the question.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

here's an idea

1. let's select the best available talents from the country and let them face the best available talent from another country.

woah ..... why has no one ever thought of that. oh. wait. never mind. ....