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Is halal diet or a diet closer to halal diet principles, the way forward even if you are not a muslim?
 
That's a weird question. It's the way forward as put forth by the Qur'an but only Muslims believe in it.
 
Naturally a Muslim believes that swine is harmful. Yes I do believe the world will naturally come to accepting the halal way of life not only in regards to food but things like banking as well.
 
Muslims themselves are confused about what is halal and what isn't. And you are asking about non Muslims....

If I want to eat something, the reason should be because Its my choice. I don't want to be strangled by religious beliefs.
 
Muslims themselves are confused about what is halal and what isn't. And you are asking about non Muslims....

If I want to eat something, the reason should be because Its my choice. I don't want to be strangled by religious beliefs.

No Muslim's are not confused over this at all. You are talking of your Muslim's like Shahrukh Khan here who don't have a clue of what they are on about. They just embarrass themselves of saying my religion is "Hindustani" yet somehow a Muslim as well!! Such idiots don't realise that Hindustani is not a belief system. No one is telling you what you can or can't eat at all. Muslim's who understand Islam know full well what halal is thank you very much.
 
Is the the height of ignorance for non Muslims to tell the world what halaal is! Eat filth all you want, don't let the Muslim's stop you!
 
Eat filth all you want, don't let the Muslim's stop you!

But OP is shoving his opinion here on non Muslims. Its the other way around. Let the non Muslims eat filth. Just don't shove your opinion on us.
 
Another one of these silly threads. I guess the reason for starting this is the corona virus issue and the whole thing about eating bats. However, if we put aside the fact that it is beyond stupid to eat things like bats and rats even some halal food can you give you fatal diseases. For example, ducks and pigeons can result in a fatal disease called Histoplasmosis.

I mean pigeons are considered halal from an Islamic perspective but these are a Health Hazard. They are well known to carry and spread diseases through their droppings. Pigeons can transmit a number of diseases such as Histoplasmosis, Pigeon Ornithosis, Salmonella, Cryptococcosis, Toxoplasmosis, and Encephalitis.

If we look at beef or chicken as well, there is no advantage of eating halal over non halal so I'd like to ask the OP what the reason for his question is and what makes him say what he has said because there is no advantage in having halal over non halal. Humans just need to stay away from disease ridden animals.
 
But OP is shoving his opinion here on non Muslims. Its the other way around. Let the non Muslims eat filth. Just don't shove your opinion on us.

He didn’t shove anything.

He asked a question about it on a forum.
 
He didn’t shove anything.

He asked a question about it on a forum.

He has established a hypothesis (halal as true diet) as theory and then projected into non Muslims. This is shoving the hypothesis into non believers.
 
The way forward is a plant-based diet and I say that as a meat-eater myself.
 
The way forward is a plant-based diet and I say that as a meat-eater myself.

While plant diet is very healthy, I really oppose the beyond meat burger or beyond meat anything as it has too many unnatural chemicals that is way worse for health. I recommend not consuming anything beyond meat as it creates risk of cancer.
 
He has established a hypothesis (halal as true diet) as theory and then projected into non Muslims. This is shoving the hypothesis into non believers.

How is he shoving it? He asked a question, you don't have to accept it. You are quite free to disagree.
 
The way forward is a plant-based diet and I say that as a meat-eater myself.

I sort of agree, but I believe the way forward is mostly plant-based diet supplemented by meat treats which should be consumed far less than they are in modern society.
 
I think a lot of people are just going off topic, some are even trying to ridicule Religion over here as well.

What OP meant was, is Halal diet or equivalent the way forward. Basically it means eating animals that are halal and killed by a sharp knife through the neck.

Correct me @srk if I am wrong, that is what you meant, basically eat animals that are Halal in Islam and kill them the way Muslims do. This may avoid diseases that may arise eating haraam animals like Pig, Snake, Bat etc.
 
I think a lot of people are just going off topic, some are even trying to ridicule Religion over here as well.

What OP meant was, is Halal diet or equivalent the way forward. Basically it means eating animals that are halal and killed by a sharp knife through the neck.

Correct me @srk if I am wrong, that is what you meant, basically eat animals that are Halal in Islam and kill them the way Muslims do. This may avoid diseases that may arise eating haraam animals like Pig, Snake, Bat etc.

Scientific question. How does halal way of killing an animal removes the bacterias that may cause disease from non halal way?
 
Scientific question. How does halal way of killing an animal removes the bacterias that may cause disease from non halal way?

I’ve seen on multiple occasions where you asked question which are self explanatory and it has mostly to do with your minimum knowledge regarding a particular topic.

Answer to your question, don’t eat it raw, a halal way.
 
He has established a hypothesis (halal as true diet) as theory and then projected into non Muslims. This is shoving the hypothesis into non believers.

Lol chill, it really isn’t that deep. If you don’t like the OP’s comments, then just ignore it.
 
He has established a hypothesis (halal as true diet) as theory and then projected into non Muslims. This is shoving the hypothesis into non believers.

You are keep ignoring this point.

How has OP shoved Halal food on your plate?

It is you who has problem with Halal and Islam, and trying to shove down your ideology and belief on other here.

OP has simply asked a question.

Now, Please answer, how has OP shoved halal food on your plate?
 
I’ve seen on multiple occasions where you asked question which are self explanatory and it has mostly to do with your minimum knowledge regarding a particular topic.

Answer to your question, don’t eat it raw, a halal way.

I specifically asked about halal way of killing an animal.

Eating cooked food is done before Islam also and nothing to do with the religion.
 
You are keep ignoring this point.

How has OP shoved Halal food on your plate?

It is you who has problem with Halal and Islam, and trying to shove down your ideology and belief on other here.

OP has simply asked a question.

Now, Please answer, how has OP shoved halal food on your plate?

Already answered in the post you quoted.
 
He has established a hypothesis (halal as true diet) as theory and then projected into non Muslims. This is shoving the hypothesis into non believers.

Already answered in the post you quoted.

You did not answer, you accused him of something that he is clearly not doing.

It has to do with more with your beliefs and getting upset for someone trying to connect religion with food.

If you do not like it then it is okay but stop creating accusation out of thin air. He asked a question, hence hypothesis, he did not shoved halal food on your plate to consume. DID HE? explain, please.
 
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I specifically asked about halal way of killing an animal.

Eating cooked food is done before Islam also and nothing to do with the religion.

Many culture and religion allow consumption of raw meat.

Halal way of sacrificing an animal have been discussed plenty of times on PP and I am sure you have been part of those discussion, so you already know why.
 
Scientific question. How does halal way of killing an animal removes the bacterias that may cause disease from non halal way?

Read what I wrote. Answer is in there if you got brains to comprehend.
 
You did not answer, you accused him of something that he is clearly not doing.

It has to do with more with your beliefs and getting upset for someone trying to connect religion with food.

If you do not like it then it is okay but stop creating accusation out of thin air. He asked a question, hence hypothesis, he did not shoved halal food on your plate to consume. DID HE? explain, please.

I agree. [MENTION=90888]Itachi[/MENTION] is behaving as if he is forced to consume Halal meat.
 
I’ve seen on multiple occasions where you asked question which are self explanatory and it has mostly to do with your minimum knowledge regarding a particular topic.

Answer to your question, don’t eat it raw, a halal way.

Halal means permissible animals and more importantly the way they are slaughtered or their state when they were killed, for eg you can shoot a deer, bird etc but mention Allah and it will be Halaal. The raw argument holds no stead as it has more to do with cooking rather than slaughtering/killing permissible animals.
 
I think a lot of people are just going off topic, some are even trying to ridicule Religion over here as well.

What OP meant was, is Halal diet or equivalent the way forward. Basically it means eating animals that are halal and killed by a sharp knife through the neck.

Correct me @srk if I am wrong, that is what you meant, basically eat animals that are Halal in Islam and kill them the way Muslims do. This may avoid diseases that may arise eating haraam animals like Pig, Snake, Bat etc.

yeah I mean halal diet or equivalent or plant-based diet looks like the way forward for humanity for a less chance of epidemic
 
Plant-based is certainly best. Lower rates of CHD, atherosclerosis, cholesterol, cancer and many others, and far less hormones and contaminants. Not to mention it's far more environmentally friendly and ethical (especially after a transition to vertical farming).
 
Read what I wrote. Answer is in there if you got brains to comprehend.

What I don't understand is why get personal though. It's a forum. Can't we be civilized while disagreeing?

I asked a simple question. How does halal way of killing an animal removes the disease causing bacterias in contrast to non halal way?
 
I asked a simple question. How does halal way of killing an animal removes the disease causing bacterias in contrast to non halal way?

Halal doesn't strictly mean animals slaughtered with a prayer. Halal/Non-Halal is a broad category, for example Carnivorous animals are also considered non-Halal, which he is referring to.
 
Halal means permissible animals and more importantly the way they are slaughtered or their state when they were killed, for eg you can shoot a deer, bird etc but mention Allah and it will be Halaal. The raw argument holds no stead as it has more to do with cooking rather than slaughtering/killing permissible animals.

What my opinion here is, what is allowed/disallowed is based upon human knowledge of centuys ago. It is time, these have to change. For example, neurocysticercosis was attributed to pork tape worm but in modern years, you have more chance to suffer from for eating carrots (uncooked) as a salad than eating pork. Carrots should also be banned since it is more hazardous than pork itself.

I agree it's time to change diet. But based upon what medical science tells us, it shouldn't be dictated by religion.
 
What my opinion here is, what is allowed/disallowed is based upon human knowledge of centuys ago. It is time, these have to change. For example, neurocysticercosis was attributed to pork tape worm but in modern years, you have more chance to suffer from for eating carrots (uncooked) as a salad than eating pork. Carrots should also be banned since it is more hazardous than pork itself.

I agree it's time to change diet. But based upon what medical science tells us, it shouldn't be dictated by religion.

This is a very good point. I bet you no one has answers to this.
 
What my opinion here is, what is allowed/disallowed is based upon human knowledge of centuys ago. It is time, these have to change. For example, neurocysticercosis was attributed to pork tape worm but in modern years, you have more chance to suffer from for eating carrots (uncooked) as a salad than eating pork. Carrots should also be banned since it is more hazardous than pork itself.

I agree it's time to change diet. But based upon what medical science tells us, it shouldn't be dictated by religion.
Great point
 
But OP is shoving his opinion here on non Muslims. Its the other way around. Let the non Muslims eat filth. Just don't shove your opinion on us.

Whose forcing anything down your throat. Let me remind you that this is a majority Muslim forum so you just need to deal with it.
 
What I don't understand is why get personal though. It's a forum. Can't we be civilized while disagreeing?

I asked a simple question. How does halal way of killing an animal removes the disease causing bacterias in contrast to non halal way?
You are stepping on people’s toes. Hence the aggression
 
Let me remind you that this is a majority Muslim forum so you just need to deal with it.
then why complain about someone insulting prophets in a non Islamic country or in a country where Islam isn't a majority? You just need to deal with it.

The hypocrisy from you is really surprising.
 
then why complain about someone insulting prophets in a non Islamic country or in a country where Islam isn't a majority? You just need to deal with it.

The hypocrisy from you is really surprising.

Coz I am not insulting anyone like you are saying it is okay to do so the Prophet of Allah. There is nothing hypocritical about saying respect others and be respected. You are saying we are free to insult others calling it freedom of expression.
 
Coz I am not insulting anyone like you are saying it is okay to do so the Prophet of Allah. There is nothing hypocritical about saying respect others and be respected. You are saying we are free to insult others calling it freedom of expression.

wow mountain out of a molehill. This is exactly why there needs to be a separation of religion and state
 
Halal meat is nice. I actually prefer halal chicken and the regional cooking / seasoning methods to non-halal chicken. Halal “pork” products meanwhile, like pepperoni and salami, are also pretty tasty, particularly on pizzas - not as good as the real thing I’ll admit, but they tend to be sliced halal turkey or halal beef that has been spiced up and generously salted, yum :)
 
Scientific question. How does halal way of killing an animal removes the bacterias that may cause disease from non halal way?

Do you have problem with Vegans/Vegitarians too? They dont eat meat for various of whacky reasons.

Just another pety dig at Islam from you.
 
If you really want to have a dig at religion, lets start with Judaism. Kosher meat.

So talk to me about the diet of Jews if the diet of Muslims bothers people much.
 
Naturally a Muslim believes that swine is harmful. Yes I do believe the world will naturally come to accepting the halal way of life not only in regards to food but things like banking as well.

Right... so everyone in the West is going to be chanting Arabic ritualistic words when cutting their meat 😂
 
Coz I am not insulting anyone like you are saying it is okay to do so the Prophet of Allah. There is nothing hypocritical about saying respect others and be respected. You are saying we are free to insult others calling it freedom of expression.

The prophet muhammed was one of the greatest of great to walk this planet. He does not need nobodies like us to defend him when someone says something bad. Their use to be a women who’d call him all sorts and throw rubbish at him as he passed, he famines peaceful and lead her funeral. So relax
 
You are stepping on people’s toes. Hence the aggression

It does not. No scientific evidence proves it does. It’s just a religious way of doing a task. Nothing wrong with it, nothing ground breaking about it.
 
What’s the big deal, the poor guys is just asking

Most diseases are found in the blood, ergo, draining the blood reduces risk of contracting diseases.

Any child knows this, but no, any excuse to have a dig at Islam. Point proven Jews do exactly the same, but I dont see your lot having a go at Judasim.

Dont like halaal, dont like beef, stick to carrots.
 
Right... so everyone in the West is going to be chanting Arabic ritualistic words when cutting their meat ��

Legendary rock band Queen had one of the biggest ever hits recorded which included the same ritualistic Arabic chant in Bohemian Rhapsody. It's a small world. :)
 
Legendary rock band Queen had one of the biggest ever hits recorded which included the same ritualistic Arabic chant in Bohemian Rhapsody. It's a small world. :)

Rituals in Hebrew dont bother the like of him, but rituals in Arabic are a problem.
 
Most diseases are found in the blood, ergo, draining the blood reduces risk of contracting diseases.

Any child knows this, but no, any excuse to have a dig at Islam. Point proven Jews do exactly the same, but I dont see your lot having a go at Judasim.

Dont like halaal, dont like beef, stick to carrots.

Man the Victim mentality. Draining the blood ain’t Islamic. People from all places and cultures and religion do it. Halal is specifically halal if you cut the neck and chant the religious sacrificial words.

How can you say I’m having a go at Islam, have you even read my responses in this thread.

Don’t play the victim card when someone don’t agree with you.
 
Man the Victim mentality. Draining the blood ain’t Islamic. People from all places and cultures and religion do it. Halal is specifically halal if you cut the neck and chant the religious sacrificial words.

How can you say I’m having a go at Islam, have you even read my responses in this thread.

Don’t play the victim card when someone don’t agree with you.

He asked the question and got the answer. A child can understand the logic in draining blood.

I was just exposing the hypocrisy you practise.
 
Do you have problem with Vegans/Vegitarians too? They dont eat meat for various of whacky reasons.

Just another pety dig at Islam from you.

I don't see the relation between vegan/vegetarian with the method of killing of animal. If they dont eat for different reasons some of which could be absurd, that's beyond this thread and deserves a new one where I'll be happy to reply.
 
I don't see the relation between vegan/vegetarian with the method of killing of animal. If they dont eat for different reasons some of which could be absurd, that's beyond this thread and deserves a new one where I'll be happy to reply.

Of course you dont. No surprises there.

Lets see, you find it odd when people eat a certain way where their religion guide them too, but vegans/vegetarians who refuse to eat meat on the grounds of morality are well within their rights to force their thinking on society.

Yeah no connection whats so ever.
 
Most diseases are found in the blood, ergo, draining the blood reduces risk of contracting diseases.

Name those diseases where draining out blood could prohibit infection from the carrier towards the target by draining out blood.

Any child knows this, but no, any excuse to have a dig at Islam. Point proven Jews do exactly the same, but I dont see your lot having a go at Judasim.

Dont like halaal, dont like beef, stick to carrots.

Islam is specifically mentioned because OP brought Islam into subject by specifically writing diets for non Muslims. If he had written kosher instead of halal, then Jews would have been the subject.

Blame OP for bringing Islam into it. You are barking at the wrong tree here.
 
Of course you dont. No surprises there.

Lets see, you find it odd when people eat a certain way where their religion guide them too, but vegans/vegetarians who refuse to eat meat on the grounds of morality are well within their rights to force their thinking on society.

Yeah no connection whats so ever.

As I said, start a new thread and I'll reply about my pov for vegans. Respectfully asking, don't drail this thread.
 
Name those diseases where draining out blood could prohibit infection from the carrier towards the target by draining out blood.



Islam is specifically mentioned because OP brought Islam into subject by specifically writing diets for non Muslims. If he had written kosher instead of halal, then Jews would have been the subject.

Blame OP for bringing Islam into it. You are barking at the wrong tree here.

The OP is simply refering to a Halaal diet. How else is the Op to ask the question? Is draining blood healthier diet than not draining blood?

Kosher and halaal are the same. You question the methods of islam and you didnt stop to think that Kosher is the same in every way other than the ritual words. Your critisim of Islam in this case applies to Judasim too. Though I suspect you are afraid of being labelled an antisemitic. To think Islam and Judaism fall under monotheistic faith.

You got your answer however, you asked how to reduce bacteria, draining blood is an effective method. If you want the name of diseases then ask a doctor or check Google.
 
As I said, start a new thread and I'll reply about my pov for vegans. Respectfully asking, don't drail this thread.

No. if you question the principles of halaal meat and attempt to mock the reasons for it, then you must apply the same logic to other spheres of society where diets are concerned.

Since you are bring up health issues, then tell me if avoiding meat altogther is a healthy alternative to a halaal diet - otherwise you are simply singling out Islam; which isnt a surprise anyway.
 
The OP is simply refering to a Halaal diet. How else is the Op to ask the question? Is draining blood healthier diet than not draining blood?

Kosher and halaal are the same. You question the methods of islam and you didnt stop to think that Kosher is the same in every way other than the ritual words. Your critisim of Islam in this case applies to Judasim too. Though I suspect you are afraid of being labelled an antisemitic. To think Islam and Judaism fall under monotheistic faith.

You got your answer however, you asked how to reduce bacteria, draining blood is an effective method. If you want the name of diseases then ask a doctor or check Google.

Look brother, I am really not interested in some useless debate where you can't come up with any contents except bringing victim mentality and try to derail the thread.

1. OP mentioned halal and diets for non MUSLIMS. he didn't include other abrahamic religion except Islam. I'll say once again, blame OP for his error if you believe that.

2. I asked about the diseases where infection could be prohibited by draining out blood from carrier to target. Either name those diseases or I'll avoid replying to you as these posts will be waste of effort and time. Since as you stated even a child knows this, you sure can come up with some diseases. That should have been the case. Isn't it?
 
Look brother, I am really not interested in some useless debate where you can't come up with any contents except bringing victim mentality and try to derail the thread.

1. OP mentioned halal and diets for non MUSLIMS. he didn't include other abrahamic religion except Islam. I'll say once again, blame OP for his error if you believe that.

2. I asked about the diseases where infection could be prohibited by draining out blood from carrier to target. Either name those diseases or I'll avoid replying to you as these posts will be waste of effort and time. Since as you stated even a child knows this, you sure can come up with some diseases. That should have been the case. Isn't it?

I'm not your brother. And if you think this is a useless debate then why do you continue to post in this thread? Not as if you have never discussed this topic before is it?

Dont run and play the victim card when your hypocrisy and hatred are exposed.

If you disagree with the OP then provide alternatives, but you cannot even do that because any point you think you might have would be undermined in a jiffy.
 
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Is halal diet or a diet closer to halal diet principles, the way forward even if you are not a muslim?

Look brother, I am really not interested in some useless debate where you can't come up with any contents except bringing victim mentality and try to derail the thread.

1. OP mentioned halal and diets for non MUSLIMS. he didn't include other abrahamic religion except Islam. I'll say once again, blame OP for his error if you believe that.

2. I asked about the diseases where infection could be prohibited by draining out blood from carrier to target. Either name those diseases or I'll avoid replying to you as these posts will be waste of effort and time. Since as you stated even a child knows this, you sure can come up with some diseases. That should have been the case. Isn't it?

I'm not your brother. And if you think this is a useless debate then why do you continue to post in this thread? Not as if you have never discussed this topic before is it?

Dont run and play the victim card when your hypocrisy and hatred are exposed.

If you disagree with the OP then provide alternatives, but you cannot even do that because any point you think you might have would be undermined in a jiffy.

OP thread talks about similar diets, so it does include Kosher. I thought that was the whole purpose of the thread but instead Islam was attacked. [MENTION=90888]Itachi[/MENTION] your anti-Islam rhetoric just got exposed by @Technics1210

There is a detailed thread on Halal, i recommend going there and starting a discussion on the hate you are spewing here. Or just scroll through it to check your answers.

Also there is a thread on Halaal.
 
OP thread talks about similar diets, so it does include Kosher. I thought that was the whole purpose of the thread but instead Islam was attacked. [MENTION=90888]Itachi[/MENTION] your anti-Islam rhetoric just got exposed by @Technics1210

There is a detailed thread on Halal, i recommend going there and starting a discussion on the hate you are spewing here. Or just scroll through it to check your answers.

Also there is a thread on Halaal.

If you believe I have insulted the religion in any shape or form which could lead to violation of terms and conditions of PP, then feel free to report each of my post and ask the moderators to mass delete every one of it here. I have no objections to that.

Rest, I'll leave it to other ppers here to ascertain whether they believe I have an agenda against Islam or not.
 
wow mountain out of a molehill. This is exactly why there needs to be a separation of religion and state

Not possible when Pak was formed in the name of Islam. Should have remained with India if secularism was what we wanted. Millions died for nothing then.
 
Right... so everyone in the West is going to be chanting Arabic ritualistic words when cutting their meat ��

I wish you knew what halal was. It is much more then praying words on an animal.
 
The prophet muhammed was one of the greatest of great to walk this planet. He does not need nobodies like us to defend him when someone says something bad. Their use to be a women who’d call him all sorts and throw rubbish at him as he passed, he famines peaceful and lead her funeral. So relax

Any person who is no longer in this world needs defending otherwise the abuse will continue. We need to educate non-Muslims as to why any insults towards him will not be tolerated. Your relaxing will only encourage non Muslim's to abuse him even more.
 
Of course you dont. No surprises there.

Lets see, you find it odd when people eat a certain way where their religion guide them too, but vegans/vegetarians who refuse to eat meat on the grounds of morality are well within their rights to force their thinking on society.

Yeah no connection whats so ever.

Vegans have nothing to do with religion, Vegetarians might.
I’m a vegetarian my parents are not and I know many like me.. vegan is not a religious thing.. not sure what you are clubbing both.
 
I'm not your brother. And if you think this is a useless debate then why do you continue to post in this thread? Not as if you have never discussed this topic before is it?

Dont run and play the victim card when your hypocrisy and hatred are exposed.

If you disagree with the OP then provide alternatives, but you cannot even do that because any point you think you might have would be undermined in a jiffy.

So draining blood is all that matters, the butcher need not be Muslim and not say any prayer, am i correct?
You have no issue if that is done in front of your eyes by a non-Muslim , would you eat that meat?
 
Look brother, I am really not interested in some useless debate where you can't come up with any contents except bringing victim mentality and try to derail the thread.

1. OP mentioned halal and diets for non MUSLIMS. he didn't include other abrahamic religion except Islam. I'll say once again, blame OP for his error if you believe that.

2. I asked about the diseases where infection could be prohibited by draining out blood from carrier to target. Either name those diseases or I'll avoid replying to you as these posts will be waste of effort and time. Since as you stated even a child knows this, you sure can come up with some diseases. That should have been the case. Isn't it?

Name the diseases please. I am curious to know
 
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