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Muslims themselves are confused about what is halal and what isn't. And you are asking about non Muslims....
If I want to eat something, the reason should be because Its my choice. I don't want to be strangled by religious beliefs.
Eat filth all you want, don't let the Muslim's stop you!
But OP is shoving his opinion here on non Muslims. Its the other way around. Let the non Muslims eat filth. Just don't shove your opinion on us.
He didn’t shove anything.
He asked a question about it on a forum.
A certain food is either Halal or no-Halal. There is no in-between.
That's a weird question. It's the way forward as put forth by the Qur'an but only Muslims believe in it.
The way forward is a plant-based diet and I say that as a meat-eater myself.
no I was not talking about religious wise; I mean health wise
I bet In a blind test you will not be able to tell the difference. GuaranteedHalal taste better from my experience.
He has established a hypothesis (halal as true diet) as theory and then projected into non Muslims. This is shoving the hypothesis into non believers.
The way forward is a plant-based diet and I say that as a meat-eater myself.
What about foods considered makrooh?
I think a lot of people are just going off topic, some are even trying to ridicule Religion over here as well.
What OP meant was, is Halal diet or equivalent the way forward. Basically it means eating animals that are halal and killed by a sharp knife through the neck.
Correct me @srk if I am wrong, that is what you meant, basically eat animals that are Halal in Islam and kill them the way Muslims do. This may avoid diseases that may arise eating haraam animals like Pig, Snake, Bat etc.
Scientific question. How does halal way of killing an animal removes the bacterias that may cause disease from non halal way?
He has established a hypothesis (halal as true diet) as theory and then projected into non Muslims. This is shoving the hypothesis into non believers.
He has established a hypothesis (halal as true diet) as theory and then projected into non Muslims. This is shoving the hypothesis into non believers.
I’ve seen on multiple occasions where you asked question which are self explanatory and it has mostly to do with your minimum knowledge regarding a particular topic.
Answer to your question, don’t eat it raw, a halal way.
You are keep ignoring this point.
How has OP shoved Halal food on your plate?
It is you who has problem with Halal and Islam, and trying to shove down your ideology and belief on other here.
OP has simply asked a question.
Now, Please answer, how has OP shoved halal food on your plate?
He has established a hypothesis (halal as true diet) as theory and then projected into non Muslims. This is shoving the hypothesis into non believers.
Already answered in the post you quoted.
I specifically asked about halal way of killing an animal.
Eating cooked food is done before Islam also and nothing to do with the religion.
Scientific question. How does halal way of killing an animal removes the bacterias that may cause disease from non halal way?
You did not answer, you accused him of something that he is clearly not doing.
It has to do with more with your beliefs and getting upset for someone trying to connect religion with food.
If you do not like it then it is okay but stop creating accusation out of thin air. He asked a question, hence hypothesis, he did not shoved halal food on your plate to consume. DID HE? explain, please.
I’ve seen on multiple occasions where you asked question which are self explanatory and it has mostly to do with your minimum knowledge regarding a particular topic.
Answer to your question, don’t eat it raw, a halal way.
I think a lot of people are just going off topic, some are even trying to ridicule Religion over here as well.
What OP meant was, is Halal diet or equivalent the way forward. Basically it means eating animals that are halal and killed by a sharp knife through the neck.
Correct me @srk if I am wrong, that is what you meant, basically eat animals that are Halal in Islam and kill them the way Muslims do. This may avoid diseases that may arise eating haraam animals like Pig, Snake, Bat etc.
Read what I wrote. Answer is in there if you got brains to comprehend.
I asked a simple question. How does halal way of killing an animal removes the disease causing bacterias in contrast to non halal way?
Halal means permissible animals and more importantly the way they are slaughtered or their state when they were killed, for eg you can shoot a deer, bird etc but mention Allah and it will be Halaal. The raw argument holds no stead as it has more to do with cooking rather than slaughtering/killing permissible animals.
What my opinion here is, what is allowed/disallowed is based upon human knowledge of centuys ago. It is time, these have to change. For example, neurocysticercosis was attributed to pork tape worm but in modern years, you have more chance to suffer from for eating carrots (uncooked) as a salad than eating pork. Carrots should also be banned since it is more hazardous than pork itself.
I agree it's time to change diet. But based upon what medical science tells us, it shouldn't be dictated by religion.
Great pointWhat my opinion here is, what is allowed/disallowed is based upon human knowledge of centuys ago. It is time, these have to change. For example, neurocysticercosis was attributed to pork tape worm but in modern years, you have more chance to suffer from for eating carrots (uncooked) as a salad than eating pork. Carrots should also be banned since it is more hazardous than pork itself.
I agree it's time to change diet. But based upon what medical science tells us, it shouldn't be dictated by religion.
But OP is shoving his opinion here on non Muslims. Its the other way around. Let the non Muslims eat filth. Just don't shove your opinion on us.
You are stepping on people’s toes. Hence the aggressionWhat I don't understand is why get personal though. It's a forum. Can't we be civilized while disagreeing?
I asked a simple question. How does halal way of killing an animal removes the disease causing bacterias in contrast to non halal way?
then why complain about someone insulting prophets in a non Islamic country or in a country where Islam isn't a majority? You just need to deal with it.Let me remind you that this is a majority Muslim forum so you just need to deal with it.
You are stepping on people’s toes. Hence the aggression
then why complain about someone insulting prophets in a non Islamic country or in a country where Islam isn't a majority? You just need to deal with it.
The hypocrisy from you is really surprising.
Coz I am not insulting anyone like you are saying it is okay to do so the Prophet of Allah. There is nothing hypocritical about saying respect others and be respected. You are saying we are free to insult others calling it freedom of expression.
Scientific question. How does halal way of killing an animal removes the bacterias that may cause disease from non halal way?
Naturally a Muslim believes that swine is harmful. Yes I do believe the world will naturally come to accepting the halal way of life not only in regards to food but things like banking as well.
Do you have problem with Vegans/Vegitarians too? They dont eat meat for various of whacky reasons.
Just another pety dig at Islam from you.
Coz I am not insulting anyone like you are saying it is okay to do so the Prophet of Allah. There is nothing hypocritical about saying respect others and be respected. You are saying we are free to insult others calling it freedom of expression.
You are stepping on people’s toes. Hence the aggression
What’s the big deal, the poor guys is just asking
Right... so everyone in the West is going to be chanting Arabic ritualistic words when cutting their meat ��
Legendary rock band Queen had one of the biggest ever hits recorded which included the same ritualistic Arabic chant in Bohemian Rhapsody. It's a small world.![]()
Most diseases are found in the blood, ergo, draining the blood reduces risk of contracting diseases.
Any child knows this, but no, any excuse to have a dig at Islam. Point proven Jews do exactly the same, but I dont see your lot having a go at Judasim.
Dont like halaal, dont like beef, stick to carrots.
Legendary rock band Queen had one of the biggest ever hits recorded which included the same ritualistic Arabic chant in Bohemian Rhapsody. It's a small world.![]()
Man the Victim mentality. Draining the blood ain’t Islamic. People from all places and cultures and religion do it. Halal is specifically halal if you cut the neck and chant the religious sacrificial words.
How can you say I’m having a go at Islam, have you even read my responses in this thread.
Don’t play the victim card when someone don’t agree with you.
Do you have problem with Vegans/Vegitarians too? They dont eat meat for various of whacky reasons.
Just another pety dig at Islam from you.
I don't see the relation between vegan/vegetarian with the method of killing of animal. If they dont eat for different reasons some of which could be absurd, that's beyond this thread and deserves a new one where I'll be happy to reply.
Most diseases are found in the blood, ergo, draining the blood reduces risk of contracting diseases.
Any child knows this, but no, any excuse to have a dig at Islam. Point proven Jews do exactly the same, but I dont see your lot having a go at Judasim.
Dont like halaal, dont like beef, stick to carrots.
Of course you dont. No surprises there.
Lets see, you find it odd when people eat a certain way where their religion guide them too, but vegans/vegetarians who refuse to eat meat on the grounds of morality are well within their rights to force their thinking on society.
Yeah no connection whats so ever.
Name those diseases where draining out blood could prohibit infection from the carrier towards the target by draining out blood.
Islam is specifically mentioned because OP brought Islam into subject by specifically writing diets for non Muslims. If he had written kosher instead of halal, then Jews would have been the subject.
Blame OP for bringing Islam into it. You are barking at the wrong tree here.
As I said, start a new thread and I'll reply about my pov for vegans. Respectfully asking, don't drail this thread.
The OP is simply refering to a Halaal diet. How else is the Op to ask the question? Is draining blood healthier diet than not draining blood?
Kosher and halaal are the same. You question the methods of islam and you didnt stop to think that Kosher is the same in every way other than the ritual words. Your critisim of Islam in this case applies to Judasim too. Though I suspect you are afraid of being labelled an antisemitic. To think Islam and Judaism fall under monotheistic faith.
You got your answer however, you asked how to reduce bacteria, draining blood is an effective method. If you want the name of diseases then ask a doctor or check Google.
Look brother, I am really not interested in some useless debate where you can't come up with any contents except bringing victim mentality and try to derail the thread.
1. OP mentioned halal and diets for non MUSLIMS. he didn't include other abrahamic religion except Islam. I'll say once again, blame OP for his error if you believe that.
2. I asked about the diseases where infection could be prohibited by draining out blood from carrier to target. Either name those diseases or I'll avoid replying to you as these posts will be waste of effort and time. Since as you stated even a child knows this, you sure can come up with some diseases. That should have been the case. Isn't it?
Is halal diet or a diet closer to halal diet principles, the way forward even if you are not a muslim?
Look brother, I am really not interested in some useless debate where you can't come up with any contents except bringing victim mentality and try to derail the thread.
1. OP mentioned halal and diets for non MUSLIMS. he didn't include other abrahamic religion except Islam. I'll say once again, blame OP for his error if you believe that.
2. I asked about the diseases where infection could be prohibited by draining out blood from carrier to target. Either name those diseases or I'll avoid replying to you as these posts will be waste of effort and time. Since as you stated even a child knows this, you sure can come up with some diseases. That should have been the case. Isn't it?
I'm not your brother. And if you think this is a useless debate then why do you continue to post in this thread? Not as if you have never discussed this topic before is it?
Dont run and play the victim card when your hypocrisy and hatred are exposed.
If you disagree with the OP then provide alternatives, but you cannot even do that because any point you think you might have would be undermined in a jiffy.
OP thread talks about similar diets, so it does include Kosher. I thought that was the whole purpose of the thread but instead Islam was attacked. [MENTION=90888]Itachi[/MENTION] your anti-Islam rhetoric just got exposed by @Technics1210
There is a detailed thread on Halal, i recommend going there and starting a discussion on the hate you are spewing here. Or just scroll through it to check your answers.
Also there is a thread on Halaal.
wow mountain out of a molehill. This is exactly why there needs to be a separation of religion and state
Right... so everyone in the West is going to be chanting Arabic ritualistic words when cutting their meat ��
The prophet muhammed was one of the greatest of great to walk this planet. He does not need nobodies like us to defend him when someone says something bad. Their use to be a women who’d call him all sorts and throw rubbish at him as he passed, he famines peaceful and lead her funeral. So relax
Of course you dont. No surprises there.
Lets see, you find it odd when people eat a certain way where their religion guide them too, but vegans/vegetarians who refuse to eat meat on the grounds of morality are well within their rights to force their thinking on society.
Yeah no connection whats so ever.
I'm not your brother. And if you think this is a useless debate then why do you continue to post in this thread? Not as if you have never discussed this topic before is it?
Dont run and play the victim card when your hypocrisy and hatred are exposed.
If you disagree with the OP then provide alternatives, but you cannot even do that because any point you think you might have would be undermined in a jiffy.
Actually, even vegan diet would be halal unless I'm mistaken.
Look brother, I am really not interested in some useless debate where you can't come up with any contents except bringing victim mentality and try to derail the thread.
1. OP mentioned halal and diets for non MUSLIMS. he didn't include other abrahamic religion except Islam. I'll say once again, blame OP for his error if you believe that.
2. I asked about the diseases where infection could be prohibited by draining out blood from carrier to target. Either name those diseases or I'll avoid replying to you as these posts will be waste of effort and time. Since as you stated even a child knows this, you sure can come up with some diseases. That should have been the case. Isn't it?