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Is it time for Virat Kohli to give up the mantle of Test captain for India?

Is it time for Virat Kohli to give up the mantle of Test captain for India?


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Good observation [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION]. I totally agree. I used to be like this too, liking a player (Sachin, Dravid, Kohli, Bumrah..) too much and getting worked up when someone criticised or pointed flaws in their game/approach. Similarly, I used to hate some players (Pant, Shardul, Ishant, Jadeja..) and constantly tried to mock them, but I have seen how any player can raise his game if they are given a chance.

I think it's about 1. the age I am at, where I am just done with being naive/whining/complaining/mocking others and 2. being tired of all the negativity around (especially in India) with extreme political ideologies (both left and right wings) rampant and permeating every aspect of our lives.

To give an example, I was called a "Modi Bhakt" for supporting Indian team and celebrating the victory in Australia series. And a few weeks ago, I, along with my other male colleagues, was made to apologise "for being a man" to all my female colleagues in an online gender equality seminar.

Now I don't indulge in criticising or worshipping anyone. It's futile and waste of my time. I have started to enjoy the game without any bias and it feels so much better. The younger guys on this forum will realise it too one day.


Well...I don't know.

Either would do.

Ha-hane was the captain when we won the magical series in Aus against all odds. A place where everyone not named SA goes and gets thrashed.

No-hit was the captain when India brutalized an in-form Pakistan (fresh out of CT 2017 win) in the Asia Cup when there were talks about how India could lose without Kohli.

Team seems to play better without Kohli.

Must be something in the air.



3-4 years back, such statements would get me worked up.

Now these emotionally forced cringe statements just make me chuckle a bit.

Maybe throw up in my mouth a little.

But I don't judge you mate.

You just haven't seen the other side

When you get to support a team that has amazing potential/system but is held back by a popular guy, you will kinda wish he doesn't have that much control regardless of how "amazing" he is.

With time, you will evolve and your views will change.

And in the future, you will come across someone else posting the way you do, but you won't judge him because you will remember you were once like him.

Argue all you want...but the truth is you are wrong.

You are just too young/naive/inexperienced to see it.
 
Indian Kaptaan was heard saying post his team's defeat that the WTC Final should've been a best of 3 event, instead of a one off.

This guy seems to have lost all shame. Had he blabbered something like this before the match, it would've still made some sense, but to state something like this post defeat, instead of acknowledging how well NZ played, shows how shameless & brainless the guy is.

However, with a highly motivated & dedicated PR at helm, he shall come over this as well. And once he hits a few sixes in the IPL, his fan bois shall portray him as King Kohli till next Chaddi-payjama league arrives.


He is an embarrassment. The way he behaves shocks me every time. And he is considered a role model with 150+ Million followers on social media. Tells you about the times we are living in.
 
Fair enough bro. but my point being that you don't speak such ******** after losing. At the least concede that opposition played better, instead of finding excuses.

Also, his selection reflects the lack of grey matter anyways, & this isn't the first time. Earlier too during '18 at Lords, he selected Kuldeep-Ashwin on a green top & lost by an innings. Here as well he went with two spinners, while NZ didn't go with even a single one. I know it's hindsight but how can someone be so far off from reading the wicket?

And what's the intent he keeps speaking about?These same Indian batters who did so well in Australia after the 36 A.O fiasco, were seen batting like headless chickens yesterday, taking on the bouncers & going after deliveries that should've been left alone. Apart from his tactical errors, looks like there's an atmosphere of fear within the team, & at the moment, Kaptaan seems too powerful for anyone to stand up to him. I am hearing murmurs about how Mrs. Sharma has been having an influence on team matters as well, but this ain't the right place to talk about them.


The less said about his own form is better.

For me, he's holding this team back, & unfortunately, there's no one who seems to be able to do anything about that.

Yes. I believe that whatever success India had in the last 4-5 years was despite Kohli as captain. Had India won the WTC final, Kohli, Shastri and co would have received further endorsement to their "positive intent" and "attitude" nonsense. In a way, and I don't want to say this, but I am glad that India didn't win the WTC final. The better (humble, hardworking, smart) team won the match and the world is better for it.
 
I have no qualms to say Kohli should remain the Captain of the team.

He has learned the lesson hard way and it would be a pity to replace him at this stage with someone who will cost us few more series or titles learning it fresh.

If it is Kohli who has made a mistake with team selection, it will be Kohli who will do the corrections.
Wait for England series and if he fails again, then take action.

When Rahane won us the Aussies series, I was beginning to think that maybe he is the right man. But such is Kohli's aura and presence that I really don't see Rahane becoming the leader of men like Kohli
 
I don’t get this criticism of the final being a one off event. Finals by their nature are one off whether it’s cricket WC final, football WC final, the champions league final or the super bowl
 
One game final for test is a farce.. There is no epic subsequent build up like 36 all out. India also got thrashed in the first game against England and Australia but still won home series anyways for example.

Test series should be three games at minimum; especially if you want to advertise it as a "test championship". Kohli has been a choker and deserves the criticism for his recent performances but I wholeheartedly agree that one game doesn't do the series any justice. What if there was a draw? What if the game was washed out due to weather? Would that have been acceptable result? Test Cricket is fundamentally different than ODI or other games.
 
Anyone seriously thinking that Kohli should lose captaincy needs to acknowledge the facts.

Under Kohli's leadership, India has literally dominated world cricket across all formats. The Indian test side was in shambles when he took over, and he was able to take control and create a new fast bowling culture in the country. Guys like Ishant Sharma, Umesh Yadav, Mohammad Shami, and Jasprit Bumrah thrived under them, and no Indian captain before him cultivated such a skilled group of fast bowlers. Furthermore, Ashwin and Jadeja also prospered under Kohli's captaincy, and were given consistent runs to make themselves crucial members of the team.

As a batsman, Kohli has literally carried Indian batting on his back when others couldn't. He is one of the finest test batsmen in the world, just that he's out of form. The guy has 70 hundreds, so clearly he isn't doing much wrong.

There are some concerns about his captaincy, like his aggression and needless comments, but that stuff gets over-analyzed because he is such a big figure.

The WTC loss wasn't his fault, it was the entire team's fault. Nobody in the team stood up when it mattered, so why is Kohli being treated differently?

People just want to tag along and say anything without really thinking. Rohit Sharma is nothing in test matches compared to Kohli, the guy is unfortunately useless overseas. Rahane is a good candidate but then again, he's mediocre compared with Kohli.

The point is, this WTC final was quite screwed up itself, so there is no reason to vent out against Kohli when he's clearly one of the best captains in the world.
 
I don’t get this criticism of the final being a one off event. Finals by their nature are one off whether it’s cricket WC final, football WC final, the champions league final or the super bowl

They are not the same. England can play all other sides just once in the group stages and advance to the knockouts in the Euros.

But England can't play a one off match in the group stages of the WTC and get full points of a series for that match. A one off match in the group stages would minimise the significance of test cricket very much.

If a one off match is enough to decide the winner of the WTC, then why not have one off matches in the group stages too instead of 4 match and 5 match series. If it's good enough for the final, it's good enough for the group stages too, no? We would finish the WTC quickly too.
 
The infamous 10-0 or was it 12-0, who was it under?

Indians are ungrateful and have memories of a goldfish. Kohli is a legend and should resign only when he feels like it. Reaching a WTC final is no easy feat, respect where is due. He will come back stronger.

True that.

Even in the WTC final, he was the only batsman besides Rishab Pant and Rahane who could get some runs worth mentioning. The rest of the batting lineup, featuring the much hyped Rohit Sharma, Cheteshwar Pujara, Shubman Gill and others was pretty worthless.

Kohli is merely out of touch. He is still the best Indian batsman by a mile, and can be a pretty good captain too.

I'd say drop Pujara for a while. It's been some time since he scored any decent runs in tests, and even struggled against England in India. Shubman Gill should be sent back to FC and Rahul Dravid. Rohit Sharma should play only ODIs.
 
Virat Kohli-led India failed to win the inaugural ICC World Test Championship (WTC) title, losing to eventual winners New Zealand by 8 wickets on the reserve day on Wednesday (June 23). Kohli & Co. ended as the No. 1 ranked side for the fifth successive year in 2021, at the time of the annual update of ICC rankings, and had a memorable run in the 2019-21 cycle. However, the Indian team still couldn't end their ICC trophy drought.

Team India last won an ICC title in 2013 during their glorious run in the Champions Trophy, in England and Wales, that year. They are yet to win a major trophy under Virat Kohli. Since Kohli took over, India have done exceedingly well in bilateral or few multi-nation tournaments (Asia Cup or Nidahas Trophy 2018) but haven't won an ICC title.

With another opportunity lost with the WTC final loss, many have once again suggested the removal of Kohli as Indian captain. In this regard, England's former spinner Graeme Swann has spoken against the idea.

“Virat Kohli is an absolute champion and a superstar. He has added steel to the Indian team. You only have to see his passion whenever a wicket goes. (Look at) His face when there is a misfield. He is 100% committed to that job. To get rid of Virat Kohli at the moment, when you have such a good captain, would be an absolute crime against cricket. I don’t think they should look elsewhere. India lost that game because they were underprepared and under-cooked going into that Test match."

Swann also sympathised with India, who didn't get enough match practice or to get into the Test mode compared to Kane Williamson & Co. prior to the WTC finale.

He said, "India just had net practice in Southampton. Nothing beats preparing for a Test match like actual Test match play. So New Zealand had everything in their favor when it came to who was going to win that game. That showed during the five days as India looked slightly rusty especially some of the batsmen."

Following the WTC final defeat, India will stay put in the United Kingdom as they play five Tests versus Joe Root-led England, from August-September. Meanwhile, India's white-ball specialists will tour Sri Lanka from mid-July.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...ving-virat-kohli-as-team-india-captain/775908
 
One game final for test is a farce.. There is no epic subsequent build up like 36 all out. India also got thrashed in the first game against England and Australia but still won home series anyways for example.

Test series should be three games at minimum; especially if you want to advertise it as a "test championship". Kohli has been a choker and deserves the criticism for his recent performances but I wholeheartedly agree that one game doesn't do the series any justice. What if there was a draw? What if the game was washed out due to weather? Would that have been acceptable result? Test Cricket is fundamentally different than ODI or other games.

Poor post.

What next? ODI World Cup final also being best of 3? Finals by definition are supposed to be one off crunch games.

Don’t be a sore loser please.
 
Poor post.

What next? ODI World Cup final also being best of 3? Finals by definition are supposed to be one off crunch games.

Don’t be a sore loser please.

You clearly don't understand the difference between test cricket and limited overs cricket.
 
I have no qualms to say Kohli should remain the Captain of the team.

He has learned the lesson hard way and it would be a pity to replace him at this stage with someone who will cost us few more series or titles learning it fresh.

If it is Kohli who has made a mistake with team selection, it will be Kohli who will do the corrections.
Wait for England series and if he fails again, then take action.

When Rahane won us the Aussies series, I was beginning to think that maybe he is the right man. But such is Kohli's aura and presence that I really don't see Rahane becoming the leader of men like Kohli

Let me burst your bubble by saying that Kohli has stopped learning these days. His batting has declined and he should play freely under someone else's captaincy at least in LOIs. Is he bigger than Sachin in India that he can't play under someone else's captaincy? :inti
 
Let me burst your bubble by saying that Kohli has stopped learning these days. His batting has declined and he should play freely under someone else's captaincy at least in LOIs. Is he bigger than Sachin in India that he can't play under someone else's captaincy? :inti

He has a bigger ego than Sachin, Dravid and Ganguly combined.

Otherwise after leading India to so many defeats in knockout matches, he would have resigned in dignity. But he prefers to say "our losses don't define us as a team" after every choke in a knockout match.
 
True that.

Even in the WTC final, he was the only batsman besides Rishab Pant and Rahane who could get some runs worth mentioning. The rest of the batting lineup, featuring the much hyped Rohit Sharma, Cheteshwar Pujara, Shubman Gill and others was pretty worthless.

Kohli is merely out of touch. He is still the best Indian batsman by a mile, and can be a pretty good captain too.

I'd say drop Pujara for a while. It's been some time since he scored any decent runs in tests, and even struggled against England in India. Shubman Gill should be sent back to FC and Rahul Dravid. Rohit Sharma should play only ODIs.

Rohit was our top scorer both innings combined.

Gave us a start in both innings
 
He has a bigger ego than Sachin, Dravid and Ganguly combined.

Otherwise after leading India to so many defeats in knockout matches, he would have resigned in dignity. But he prefers to say "our losses don't define us as a team" after every choke in a knockout match.
He is not like Dravid/Sachin. Those guys were humble and would have resigned after so many failures. Not sure how many more tournaments we will lose under Kohli's captaincy. :inti
 
He is not like Dravid/Sachin. Those guys were humble and would have resigned after so many failures. Not sure how many more tournaments we will lose under Kohli's captaincy. :inti
Tendulkar resigned as captain after we got whitewashed against an ATG Australian team in Australian conditions despite him being top scorer from India in that series.

Forget about the series result for a moment, when was the last time Kohli was our top scorer in an away series? Probably England series in '18? Or probably the SA series later that year or was it played earlier than England series?
 
He is not like Dravid/Sachin. Those guys were humble and would have resigned after so many failures. Not sure how many more tournaments we will lose under Kohli's captaincy. :inti

Didn't Dravid resign the captaincy after winning a test series in England citing the fact that he had realized that he had taken the team as far as he could?

Truly think he was unique even in that era, which feels like something long gone, even though it's been less than 15 years.
 
Didn't Dravid resign the captaincy after winning a test series in England citing the fact that he had realized that he had taken the team as far as he could?

Truly think he was unique even in that era, which feels like something long gone, even though it's been less than 15 years.

India will never get a selfless player like Dravid again. :inti
 
These days everyone loses away from home and for the most part home teams have won high profile ICC events, with some major tournaments scheduled in India it is premature to ask for Kohli to get the sack really, if India fail in those then I would see the logic behind it, that would be the ultimatum which would be enough to make a solid justification for his resignation, but as it stands that is unlikely as the team/Kohli wont find a better opportunity over the next 3 years or so
 
You clearly don’t understand the difference between tournament cricket and bilateral cricket

Yeah sure I do.

What tournament are we talking about here? A tournament is traditionally when all teams congregate together in a selected venue for a selected period of time and play nothing but the tournament matches only to decide the best team with quarter finals, semifinals and the grand final. Eg. FIFA world cup, ODI world cup, T20 world cup, etc.

The test championship is not a cup style tournament but more a league like the English premier League or La liga with each team getting points based on their playing schedule that spans across two years. Test cricket is fundamentally a very different game from all other games where the venue, whether you bat first or bowl first, the weather, the nature of the pitch all matters so much more than other formats in cricket where the differences don't matter as much. You can never understand why deciding the better test team based on a one off match is very silly if you don't understand the differences in the nature of the game between pyjama cricket and test cricket.

Have you ever wondered why people call two test series between teams as a mockery of test cricket and ask Pakistan to avoid playing such series. Now imagine a one off test to decide points between teams in the group stages instead of 3 or 4 match series. Australia would have won both the 2001 and 2020 series, they would've won the 2005 Ashes and India would've shared the series with Pakistan in the test series that happened in Pakistan in 2006 if only the first matches counted towards the result. There's a reason most test cricket fans agree that deciding a winner based on a one off test is a silly thing to do and only criticise Kohli for pointing it out right after NZ winning the championship instead of saying it after 2 or so weeks as it comes across as poor sportsmanship even if his argument has merit. The only ones who don't understand the argument are desi cricket fans, who to be honest, have never understood and appreciated test cricket and the difference between test cricket and pyjama cricket anyway.
 
Let me burst your bubble by saying that Kohli has stopped learning these days. His batting has declined and he should play freely under someone else's captaincy at least in LOIs. Is he bigger than Sachin in India that he can't play under someone else's captaincy? :inti

Prefix a patronising tone to the post and get enough elevation. Thanks, I ought to try that sometime and see how it works
 
In ICC Tournaments
Most matches as Captain Without Winning an ICC Trophy

42 - Graeme Smith
29 - Virat Kohli
28 - Jayawardene
27 - William Porterfield
26 - Kumar Sangakkara
25 - M Azharuddin
24 - Mashrafe Mortaza
 
I am feeling very sarcastic today so apologise in advance if it hurts your sensibilities.

If a team reaches finals for so many ICC events it becomes a great team.
and when it loses the final match, the captain becomes a choker and needs firing.

So we have apportioned the blame and can rest easy now as our responsibility has been transferred to a new captain and that our work has been done. Probably the only solution that came to our mind?

So we start taking shots in the dark by appointing a new captain and hope the new guy will deliver and replace him if he fails too. and so on ad infinitum.

So maybe one day we will win a world cup as this hire and fire approach might make our captains start quivering in their boots and give some magic performance.

maybe just head to the nearest superstore and look under the section labelled as "Cricket Captains" and try a new brand captain, and pretend it doesn't affect the team dynamics at all.

Fantasy cricket does this to you.
 
Kohli is clearly not officer material. As soon as the pressure is put back on India, he is immediately on the verge of tears and starts panicking, making haphazard decisions, following the ball etc. because he cannot believe that an opposition was allowed to outplay his team. His nervous energy affects the team because of his otherwise outsized influence on it which in any case is always a bad thing and with his negative mindset, brings the whole team down. He also abuses his own players (only juniors, wouldn't dare staring at Rohit or ABD) even for difficult misfields (while he is himself one of the worst catchers in history) and you can clearly see that all players are playing with fear of getting dropped rather than playing to get the team to victory.

He is good for the fast bowlers which is his only redeeming quality but otherwise he is a poor captain and also not the kind of guy you would pick to bat for your life. He has also repeatedly screwed up so many guys such as Pant and Rahul and even Pujara and Rahane who would never get treated that way in Ganguly or Dhoni's reign where we discovered and groomed so many matchwinners and stuck by them even when they didn't perform.

You need guys who give the players confidence and security, can view pressure situations dispassionately and have the fight till the end mindset, something that both Rohit and Rahane have shown in whatever chances they have got and Kohli repeatedly failed in.
 
He also abuses his own players (only juniors, wouldn't dare staring at Rohit or ABD) even for difficult misfields (while he is himself one of the worst catchers in history) and you can clearly see that all players are playing with fear of getting dropped rather than playing to get the team to victory.
This is so Sarfaraz like trait!
 
Prefix a patronising tone to the post and get enough elevation. Thanks, I ought to try that sometime and see how it works
Did I say anything wrong then? His batting has declined isn't it? And what's wrong in saying that he should play under someone else's captaincy in LOI's? You had so many options to reply to but you chose to highlight the first few words of my post only. I am disappointed. :rabada2 :inti
 
What I am thinking is: Kohli may not step down as captain until he retires or until someone else (say like Shubman Gill) overtakes & overshines him as all Format-Batsman! Actually its not just his ego, today (much more than in past) corporate money drives cricket, so they will never let him go out of limelight regardless of failures. We guys watch Indian cricket even when they lose right?

Only severe failures (like series defeats at home, defeat against lower-ranked teams, continuous whitewashes in overseas) can make a call... But that's not going to happen with this Indian team which is not such a poor team! Indian system sadly doesn't work based on subtle merits...

The other option I have is sack Ravi Shastri from captaincy and bring someone serious into the table! (Perhaps a foreigner like Gary Kirsten, John Wright, etc as we did in past). At least they will bring in some discipline & provide some tactical inputs (though it will be toned down again by Kohli's power)

So fans & media should push at least for this... (But even this seems to be difficult, because Shastri was part of the Australian triumph!) So we may have to wait (unfortunately) for a series-loss at home. Hopefully New Zealand can do that when they visit India!
 
'What's the guarantee that another captain can win ICC trophy': Pakistan batsman lauds Virat Kohli's captaincy

Indian skipper Virat Kohli has found the backing of Pakistan batsman amid criticism from all corners over his captaincy after India's eight-wicket loss in the WTC final.

Despite being India's most successful Test captain, many have questioned Virat Kohli's captaincy credentials post the team's 8-wicket loss in the World Test Championship (WTC) final against New Zealand. India lost the final on the reserve day at the Rose Bowl in Southampton to miss out on another major ICC trophy under Kohli.

Under Kohli, India have become a dominant force across formats and have made it to the knockout stages of all major ICC tournaments. However, they have failed to clinch any major trophy so far which has brought Kohli's captaincy under the scanner. While he has been facing the flak over India's loss in the WTC final, the Indian skipper has found the backing of Pakistan wicket-keeper batsman Kamran Akmal.

Akmal called Kohli a big player and said he has been a 'bit unlucky' as captain. The veteran batsman heaped praise on Kohli and said he has been a match-winner for the Indian team, over the years.

“Virat Kohli is a big player and a fantastic captain. He is aggressive and very emotional. Any captain who has come in has only taken Indian cricket forward. It started with Sourav Ganguly, then Rahul Dravid and MS Dhoni took over. Yes, everyone has complained that Virat Kohli hasn’t won any ICC trophy. But, apart from that, he has won almost everything. India have won so many series’ under Virat Kohli," Akmal said during a discussion on ‘My Master Cricket Coach’ YouTube channel.

“He has been a bit unlucky, but I have no doubt over his captaincy credentials. He is a great captain and match-winner,” he added.

Akmal feels it will be unfair to blame Kohli alone for India's failure to win major ICC trophies since he took over as captain across formats in 2017. The Pakistan batsman questioned if any other captain can replace Kohli and guarantee an ICC trophy while suggesting the team should analyse why they are not winning big events.

“It (India not winning ICC events) is not completely Virat Kohli’s fault. What is the guarantee that another captain can come in and win India an ICC trophy? As a team, they have to analyze why they are not winning the big events. They reach the last stages but fail at the final hurdle. It will be unfair to blame only Virat Kohli. According to me, as long as he feels that he can do the job, he should continue,” said Akmal.

After losing the WTC final, India will now shift their attention towards their upcoming Test series against England which gets underway in August this year. The Indian players are currently enjoying their break in England ahead of the five-match series against the hosts.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/article/pakistan-batsman-lauds-virat-kohlis-captaincy-whats-the-guarantee-that-another-captain-can-win-icc-trophy/776919
 
Not this nonsense again.

Kohli is a phenomenal leader - the most successful Asian captain of all time. Put some respect to the name that has more Tests than anyone in history barring 3 captains.

Besides, he is too big a character to play under someone else’s personality. When he is on the pitch, the spotlight will always be on him and it will be unfair to the other captain and also to Kohli himself.

As long as he is making the team on merit, he will and should continue to be captain unless someone else emerges and surpasses him in star quality and profile, just like Kohli surpassed Dhoni by 2014-15.
 
Kohli will stay as captain across all formats till his retirement. There is nothing we can do about it. We do not have the privilege to watch a captain- free Kohli back to best of his batting any more.

Indian fans will have to stay satisfied with whatever home wins that we are getting because under Kohli, it is unlikely that we will achieve a memorable test series win away from home against a top side or win an ICC title as we will get about 60% as good a batsman when Kohli is captain and we also get a mediocre captain who will make wrong decisions and still feel arrogant and in denial about it.
 
Kohli will stay as captain across all formats till his retirement. There is nothing we can do about it. We do not have the privilege to watch a captain- free Kohli back to best of his batting any more.

Indian fans will have to stay satisfied with whatever home wins that we are getting because under Kohli, it is unlikely that we will achieve a memorable test series win away from home against a top side or win an ICC title as we will get about 60% as good a batsman when Kohli is captain and we also get a mediocre captain who will make wrong decisions and still feel arrogant and in denial about it.

Problem lies with MO bats like Rahane and Puajara. Kohli will bounce back stronger, he is a proven performer who is going through a lean phase. Happens to everyone
 
Kohli will stay as captain across all formats till his retirement. There is nothing we can do about it. We do not have the privilege to watch a captain- free Kohli back to best of his batting any more.

I don't know why this is. If his predecessors - Ganguly, Dravid, Dhoni can all resign from captaincy and play as a regular member, so should Kohli.

Besides, he is too big a character to play under someone else’s personality. When he is on the pitch, the spotlight will always be on him and it will be unfair to the other captain and also to Kohli himself.

Again, did not happen to Ganguly, Tendulkar, Dhoni etc. after they resigned.
 
Problem lies with MO bats like Rahane and Puajara. Kohli will bounce back stronger, he is a proven performer who is going through a lean phase. Happens to everyone

We won the test series in Australia 2020 with pivotal roles from Pujara and Rahane. Aside of that, mostly beaten weaker teams away and lost to all the SEN teams away.
 
I don't know why this is. If his predecessors - Ganguly, Dravid, Dhoni can all resign from captaincy and play as a regular member, so should Kohli.

Ganguly never resigned as captain, he was sacked.
 
Without Kohli the captain, other batsman in the team would raise their performance and the team will be a lot more resilient in the field instead of crumbling as soon as the batting team fights back.

Batsman need the safety and confidence from the management to go out and express themselves freely which they can never get under Kohli because he keeps everyone's head on the chopping block and any failure (other than his own) is publicly derided by him. Even guys like Rahane and Pujara were dropped from the team on Kohli's whims. It is no surprise to see our batting suffer in difficult conditions when they are always playing to save their positions.

When you get so immaturely excited whenever you get a wicket, you will also start feeling irrationally low when there is even brief resistance. Its just like Ferrari in F1, when they are winning they start slacking because they think its their god-issued right to win everything every damn time and when they lose, they throw their toys out of the pram. The anguish on Kohli's face becomes quite apparent in these situations. He has little respect for the opposition and thinks that he will keep getting wickets every other over.

Indian cricket would have been so much better if Rahane was given captaincy in that 2014 tour.
 
Not this nonsense again.

Kohli is a phenomenal leader - the most successful Asian captain of all time. Put some respect to the name that has more Tests than anyone in history barring 3 captains.

Besides, he is too big a character to play under someone else’s personality. When he is on the pitch, the spotlight will always be on him and it will be unfair to the other captain and also to Kohli himself.

As long as he is making the team on merit, he will and should continue to be captain unless someone else emerges and surpasses him in star quality and profile, just like Kohli surpassed Dhoni by 2014-15.

The way he’s going he may not even make the team on merit anymore
 
Problem lies with MO bats like Rahane and Puajara. Kohli will bounce back stronger, he is a proven performer who is going through a lean phase. Happens to everyone
Lol, as if it's guaranteed!

Also, hasn't his lean phase extended way too much? No centuries in any form of cricket in over 2 years! Even if you take out 1 year out of it due to Covid and all, still very pedestrian numbers over last 2-odd years.
 
I don't know why this is. If his predecessors - Ganguly, Dravid, Dhoni can all resign from captaincy and play as a regular member, so should Kohli.



Again, did not happen to Ganguly, Tendulkar, Dhoni etc. after they resigned.

Kohli is a bigger star/personality than all of them.

Only Tendulkar was more popular/had a greater fan following in India but he was not an animated, aggressive character like Kohli.

Asking Kohli to play under someone else’s captaincy is like asking Imran Khan to play under someone else. The status and the power that Imran had in Pakistan cricket is pretty much the same as what Kohli has in Indian cricket today.

So unless someone surpasses Kohli in popularity and star value, he will remain as captain.
 
The way he’s going he may not even make the team on merit anymore

India should first worry about the replacements of serial under-performers like Rahane before thinking about replacing one of the greatest ever batsmen who is still only 32.
 
Under Kohli,

India lost a winnable series in South Africa due to poor selection (omitting Rahane in the first two matches).

Lost a winnable series in England with the team relaxing as soon as the tail came on to bat (also dropped Pujara in the close first match).

Won the BG series with Australia missing their best two bats and Finch opening (Lyon and Hazelwood nearly chased the target in the first match).

Decimated by New Zealand.

Suffered the worst humiliation in our history with the team crumbling to 36/9 in the match Kohli played (as the remaining players subsequently did much better despite losing all tosses)

Crumbled in the WTC final (fair enough, it was handed on a platter to NZ'ers, can't blame him here tbf)

Laughable to call him Asia's greatest captain. Ganguly and Kumble were far better as was Dravid. This England series should be his last hopefully.
 
'Pressure is piling on Virat and he knows that': Former India wicketkeeper opens up on Kohli's future as captain of team

In ODIs, Virat Kohli has a win percentage of over 70, while in T20Is, it's more than 65, but these impressive stats pale in comparison to the fact that he has never led India to an ICC title.

Virat Kohli is India's most successful Test captain, leading the team to 33 wins, but when it comes to limited-overs format, some boxes are left to be ticked. In ODIs, Kohli has a win percentage of over 70, while in T20Is, it's more than 65. These are pretty impressive stats but if the general consensus is to be believed, they pale in comparison to the fact that under Kohli, India are yet to get their hands on an ICC title despite coming close on several occasions.

The 2017 Champions Trophy, the 2019 World Cup and the 2021 World Test Championship are the three knockout hurdles where India have stumbled upon. The next big ICC event for Kohli and his team is the T20 World Cup in the UAE later this year, which former India wicketkeeper Saba Karim feels can make or break Kohli's future as captain of the team. With debates of split captaincy refusing to die down, Karim reckons that if Kohli nails to land yet another ICC trophy, he may ponder his future in terms of captaincy of the team.

"The T20 World Cup that is going to be played later this year will be extremely crucial for Virat Kohli's captaincy career. The pressure is piling on Virat and he knows that he hasn't won an ICC trophy yet. So, his aim would be for India to win the T20 World Cup," Karim told India News Sports.

"If India can lift the trophy, then I believe Kohli will have that breathing space. Maybe he can take stock of the situation then and decide how long he wants to captain the team. His name in coming up in the list of big captains but an ICC title is far from him."

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Karim vouched in favour of split captaincy given how demanding the nature of all three formats are. With all three formats now having a World Cup, India would need fresh set of ideas and mindset, and expecting everything from Kohli would be too much, believes Karim.

"In all three formats, you have World Championships, and all formats require different mindset, different resources, different thinking. That's why I feel that if one captain is leading, it will be too much to expect from him as well. With every format, you need a fresh set of ideas and that is why I feel split captaincy should be the way forward," he said.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/the-pressure-is-piling-on-virat-and-he-knows-that-former-india-wicket-keeper-opens-up-on-kohli-s-captaincy-future-101625215218417.html
 
Good observation [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION]. I totally agree. I used to be like this too, liking a player (Sachin, Dravid, Kohli, Bumrah..) too much and getting worked up when someone criticised or pointed flaws in their game/approach. Similarly, I used to hate some players (Pant, Shardul, Ishant, Jadeja..) and constantly tried to mock them, but I have seen how any player can raise his game if they are given a chance.

I think it's about 1. the age I am at, where I am just done with being naive/whining/complaining/mocking others and 2. being tired of all the negativity around (especially in India) with extreme political ideologies (both left and right wings) rampant and permeating every aspect of our lives.

To give an example, I was called a "Modi Bhakt" for supporting Indian team and celebrating the victory in Australia series. And a few weeks ago, I, along with my other male colleagues, was made to apologise "for being a man" to all my female colleagues in an online gender equality seminar.

Now I don't indulge in criticising or worshipping anyone. It's futile and waste of my time. I have started to enjoy the game without any bias and it feels so much better. The younger guys on this forum will realise it too one day.

Yes, its just not worth it to get worked up over players.

There was a phase when I was super touchy about Sachin in PP.

Today i think and laugh about it.

I have also noticed that being active on the match threads during games is far more intense and stressful, and worst of all, prevents us from enjoying the game.
 
Problem lies with MO bats like Rahane and Puajara. Kohli will bounce back stronger, he is a proven performer who is going through a lean phase. Happens to everyone

Once a player of his calibre starts to decline then it becomes pretty difficult to come back. He will still score runs but not with the same impact and passion he used to score before. He should give up captaincy and enjoy his last few years as a player in Indian team. :inti
 
Once a player of his calibre starts to decline then it becomes pretty difficult to come back. He will still score runs but not with the same impact and passion he used to score before. He should give up captaincy and enjoy his last few years as a player in Indian team. :inti
Never going to happen, he is too egoistic to play just as a player. Which also means that his fall may be even greater which I think we are witnessing for last few years.

We have not won anything meaningful under him for quite some time now.
 
VK seems to be at loggerheads with BCCI Also:

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A battle within the Indian cricket spectrum has started for the replacement of injured Shubman Gill on the tour of England. While Team India wants Prithvi Shaw or Devdutt Padikkal to be included in the 5-match Test series, the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) selectors have turned down the request.

Both Shaw and Padikkal are part of the Indian contingent in Sri Lanka for the limited-overs series. Until the tour is wrapped up, there seems to be no possibility of either of the two openers flying to England, leaving Virat Kohli & Co. with 23 players in the squad.

Though the team's demand for Shaw is understandable considering the form he has shown since being dropped at the beginning of this year, what the BCCI is said to be disappointed about is the team selection for the tour of England in the first place.

KL Rahul, Abhimanyu Easwaran, and Mayank Agarwal were all seen as reserve openers for the series but the Indian team management's interpretation of these players is a little different. While Mayank is now set to replace Gill at the top of the batting order, Rahul is likely to be deployed in the middle order while Easwaran is nowhere in the team's plans.

The said situation, hence, leaves the Indian team without any cover whatsoever in the opening department. Those in the know, however, are questioning why Shaw wasn't considered in the 24-man squad in the first place.

“When Prithvi Shaw was not considered in the pool of 24 players who travelled, why should it be any different now? As for Devdutt Padikkal, well, he’s a great talent but doesn’t deserve to be pushed to the wall like this. His time will come”, BCCI sources told the Times of India.

As things stand right now, Mayank and Rohit will open for England in the first Test starting August 04 while Easwaran is likely to be given the opportunity to showcase his credentials if the need arises. Depending upon the form and fitness of players, KL Rahul could be deployed as an opener or a middle-order batsman. In the beginning, however, he is expected to warm the bench.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...hanges-now-miffed-bcci-asks-team-india/781927
 
So that was for the WTC final vs NZ - but what about the series against England?
 
VK fired up

Virat Kohli in team huddle "if I see someone laughing, then see! This 60 overs you should field like hell".
 
Does Kohli's ego affect his decision making as a captain?

Captains being egotistic is not really a rarity in cricket and guys like Ranatunga, Ganguly, Ponting come to mind. But Kohli seems to be that extra bit ego headed in his decision making. He is the kind of guy who refuses to concede that he may have been wrong and he just keeps backing his decision, whether it's right or wrong, so that he can prove his critics wrong. This is apparent even in press interviews when he's known to get a lot aggressive to questions critical of his decision making in the past, although he has become more passive aggressive these days.

Take for example this series, he goes with the 4 pacer decision, which to be fair to him, is actually a good ploy in English conditions. But the problem is, he continues with the same ploy even on flatter wickets where the conditions cry out for a spinner to put a lid on the run flow.

Or even the last test when everyone knows Headingley is the best ground in England to bowl first and stats in recent tests have also shown sides that bowl first have won more. But Kohli, in his typical strong headed manner, thinks bowling first is a defensive move and so always chooses to bat first in the odd occasions he wins the toss.

Heck even with the toss, the bloke is egotistical about calling the coin. If anyone has noticed tosses in Indian matches, Kohli always, I mean always, calls head and only rarely calls tails. Because calling tails is for those who drink soy milk. Even when he loses 9 out of 10 times while calling heads, he will continue calling heads because it's luck that's conspiring against him. I mean sure, we can't do much about tosses as it has a lot to do with luck and maybe I'm going a bit overboard criticising him for it, but at least call the coin sometimes different for a change for god's sake.

I think the best captains are those who understand when they commit mistakes and learn from their errors but Kohli's strong ego prevents him from doing that and that affects his captaincy skills. Your thoughts?
 
Captains being egotistic is not really a rarity in cricket and guys like Ranatunga, Ganguly, Ponting come to mind. But Kohli seems to be that extra bit ego headed in his decision making. He is the kind of guy who refuses to concede that he may have been wrong and he just keeps backing his decision, whether it's right or wrong, so that he can prove his critics wrong. This is apparent even in press interviews when he's known to get a lot aggressive to questions critical of his decision making in the past, although he has become more passive aggressive these days.

Take for example this series, he goes with the 4 pacer decision, which to be fair to him, is actually a good ploy in English conditions. But the problem is, he continues with the same ploy even on flatter wickets where the conditions cry out for a spinner to put a lid on the run flow.

Or even the last test when everyone knows Headingley is the best ground in England to bowl first and stats in recent tests have also shown sides that bowl first have won more. But Kohli, in his typical strong headed manner, thinks bowling first is a defensive move and so always chooses to bat first in the odd occasions he wins the toss.

Heck even with the toss, the bloke is egotistical about calling the coin. If anyone has noticed tosses in Indian matches, Kohli always, I mean always, calls head and only rarely calls tails. Because calling tails is for those who drink soy milk. Even when he loses 9 out of 10 times while calling heads, he will continue calling heads because it's luck that's conspiring against him. I mean sure, we can't do much about tosses as it has a lot to do with luck and maybe I'm going a bit overboard criticising him for it, but at least call the coin sometimes different for a change for god's sake.

I think the best captains are those who understand when they commit mistakes and learn from their errors but Kohli's strong ego prevents him from doing that and that affects his captaincy skills. Your thoughts?

Kohli at times fails to differentiate between arrogance and aggression.

Arrogance is when you keep repeating the same procedure in hopes that it succeeds. Aggression is increasing the intensity of the procedure to bring about better results.

The mix of both is highly unprofessional, this type of attitude is acceptable for a sportsperson but in any other profession, you would be reprimanded quite frequently.

The coin toss you mention is quite interesting. Mathematically, picking the same side will not change your probability of success, but logically, doing so is quite incorrect. There's a lot of factors involved from the revolutions of the coin to how it is tossed, but you are better off alternating to tails a few times as well. It's probably not arrogance, just stupidity to go with the same side of the coin every single time.

Kohli's stature is greater than anyone on the team, including the team management. It's often led people to believe that he comes up with all the strategies and all, which is not the case. India's bowling plans in Australia were courtesy some brilliant thinking by their bowling coach, Bharat Arun I think. Of course, captaincy has its credit, but nowadays, a captain just needs to be active and vigilant with bowling changes and must motivate the team. The rest of the tactical decisions come from the think tank and management. I think that India's management got the decision wrong, and Kohli is essentially the face of the management.

Kohli is quite a head-strong character, but he has improved the Indian test team by a fair margin since being given the helm. I think his batting form would psychologically play a part in this attitude where he appears to be sure of himself to give the general public assurance that he isn't too fearful of what's happening.

I'm surprised nobody has dared to ask him about his batting form in these press conferences. A good player will accept his faults, not try and undermine the reputation of the person asking the questions. I don't like Kohli in press conferences, he makes a fuss out of anything that is criticizing him or the team, especially in losses. A good captain should be able to handle that type of pressure and not appear to be so uptight, which is an image people associate with Virat Kohli now.
 
More from Atherton….

"Kohli had given his two main bowlers a long bowl – he bowled them for an hour or thereabouts. What they needed then was for that pressure to be continued.

After the two wickets. India were in control of the situation but then they just leaked runs and Kohli just couldn’t find any control after that."

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Kohli's leadership and captaincy in the limelight now
 
So should he give up captaincy?

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Return of Dhoni, the untold story: A captain who needs mentoring, another waiting in the wings

The scanner on Kohli the captain comes when the India team is witnessing a churn. The contract of head coach Ravi Shastri and his support staff ends after the World T20 and it’s unlikely to be renewed.

On the final day of the Oval Test, among the Englishmen blown away by Virat Kohli were a couple of commentators. Nasser Hussain declared that the Indian skipper had passed his big captaincy test “with flying colours”. Michael Vaughan, another former captain and a social media influencer, called Kohli “an amazing character” who gave “a tactical masterclass on how to win a Test match”.

Exactly 48 hours later, the BCCI, in a subtle nudge to the captain with a dismal record at ICC events, would designate M S Dhoni as the mentor for next month’s WorldT20. This would be the first official acknowledgement of sorts by the Indian board that the country’s greatest batsman was not quite the greatest leader.

Read |Mahendra Singh Dhoni is back in Team India dugout — as mentor for World T20
In the past too, there have been lateral entries to the Indian team set-up — Rahul Dravid was batting consultant on the 2014 England tour — but the inclusion of a Dhoni-like mentor, an active IPL player, was a first. Besides the obvious conflict-of-interest red flag, the timing of the appointment had a layer of intrigue.

The scanner on Kohli the captain comes when the India team is witnessing a churn. The contract of head coach Ravi Shastri and his support staff ends after the World T20 and it’s unlikely to be renewed. Plus, unlike in the past, India now has an alternative captain with worthy credentials.

On this England tour, Rohit Sharma’s success as a Test opener embellished his image as an all-format, all-condition player. His enhanced stature was underlined by his prominent role in negotiations with the board over the cancellation of the Manchester Test. Moreover, Mumbai Indians’ overwhelming superiority over Royal Challengers Bangalore is a trivia that can tempt the BCCI to look beyond Kohli.

So will Rohit replace Virat in case India fails to win the World T20?
Like most things in the ever-changing BCCI dynamics, this is a multiple choice question with Yes, No, Maybe options.

Before answering the question, a look at Dhoni’s role. Going by the word on the Indian cricket circuit, the one-time crisis manager of Indian cricket is an “officer on a very specific duty”. Too unconventional to be a batting guru, way too important to be drafted as a mere wicket-keeping coach, the country’s most-decorated white-ball captain ever is to hand-hold Kohli, help him win his first ICC Cup. Dhoni, for all practical purposes, is a captaincy coach. His sparkling CV makes him the most suited for the job.

India’s last big white-ball triumph was in 2013, when Dhoni lifted the Champions Trophy. Add the 2011 World Cup and 2007 WorldT20 to his name and Captain Cool’s cricketing Grand Slam is complete.

Explained |How will mentor Dhoni help India’s prospects at T20 World Cup?

“No one can guide this Indian team better than Dhoni. He has plenty of experience and the players trust him a lot. Jay (Shah) felt that Dhoni is the only person who can help the team during the T20 World Cup, so he dialled him,” says a BCCI insider. The “only person” bit being a couched critique of the captain who is yet to win an IPL title.

This chorus has been growing. For some time now, discussions about Kohli’s captaincy have gone beyond the office water-cooler. Even the host broadcaster between their staple King Kohli shows find time to question puzzling team selection and debatable tactics. Sir Vivian Richards might have Kohli as his heir apparent but no one seems to have sighted shades of Mike Brearley in world cricket’s poster-boy.

Historically, all successful sporting teams have a core group of regulars, but not this one. Virtually every player to play under Kohli has been dropped from the playing XI at least once. No senior has been sure of his place in the side, rarely has there been a captaincy contender.

Insecurity has rarely been drip-irrigated like this before, perhaps. The churlish whispers about intent of batsmen after losing the WTC final to New Zealand had stemmed from the captain himself. Kohli, of course, later rubbished it as “outside noise”.

When Rohit played the IPL 2020 final in a cloud of injury, much angst swirled from “team management sources”. Once again, it got labelled as outside noise. In March, asked about Ashwin’s T20 future, Kohli had snapped: “The question has to have logic.” Months later, Ashwin is in the team. Along with the presence of Dhoni, it does seem the invisible hands of power are slowly trying to wrest control.

During Kohli’s 7-year reign, India has had one path-breaking first-ever Test series win in Australia and a lengthy streak of home domination. In this long period of stability, BCCI failed in its institutional responsibility to put in place a succession plan. Unlike any time in Indian cricket, Kohli remained Indian cricket’s unrivalled ruler. He got what he wanted — read Anil Kumble out, Ravi Shastri in.

Things changed at the start of this year, when Ajinkya Rahane, while Kohli was on paternity leave, pulled off Brisbane. More Kane Williamson than Kohli, India under the less-expressive Rahane showed never-seen-before resilience and intensity. A few myths were shattered. Former India captain Bishan Singh Bedi said Rahane reminded him of Tiger Pataudi.

Once Kohli returned, Rahane’s batting form nose-dived, he got relegated to the background. From an inspirational captain in Australia, by the end of England tour, he was a vice-captain struggling to justify his place in the side.

The plummeting of Rahane’s stock coincided with Rohit’s coming-of-age series in England, making him the designated captain in waiting. Suddenly, there was buzz in the dressing room about a change at the top.

History shows not all palace intrigue ends in coronation. The uprooting of an icon like Kohli will not be easy. There are a few Rohit-sceptics in the BCCI. “He is 34 so can’t be a long-term solution, say like Kohli was when he took over from Dhoni. He has fitness issues also. But that’s my personal view. If we don’t win ICC events, we need to collectively think. Maybe someone younger or maybe Rohit as a stop-gap,” said a board official.

Before the final day at The Oval, when the captaincy narrative suddenly changed, Kohli and his batting were being brutally scrutinised. In those final few hours of the fourth Test, with each England wicket falling during the dramatic collapse, the pressure was getting lifted off the captain.

But did India win because of a leadership masterclass? No one, not even the pitch, can be credited for Jasprit Bumrah’s two reverse-swinging unplayable game-changing balls. As for the other final-day hero Jadeja, like always, the only assistance he needed was a rough on the pitch.

The two key England wickets, Dawid Malan and Joe Root, were a stroke of luck. India’s think tank couldn’t have set a field to get Malan run-out nor could there be a plan in place to get the in-form Root played-on with a Shardul Thakur innocuous outside-the-off-stump gentle loosener.

However, Kohli’s in-your-face celebration, his frenzied solo war dance around the relatively muted India huddle, made him central to the narrative. Those sore points about his captaincy — R Ashwin warming the bench for four straight Test matches in England, the perpetual confusion of the team to show aggressive intent or to pursue Test-match batting — were no longer part of post-match discussions.

An India win under Kohli makes you feel dizzy, throws you in a trance.

For England’s cricket pundit, dealing with the angst of missing cricketers with charisma from the time Sir Ian Botham was called just Beefy, Kohli’s bluster made him an inspirational leader. But for those more invested in India cricket, he remained a captain who needed a handler.

https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/return-of-ms-dhoni-the-untold-story-virat-kohli-rohit-sharma-7503424/
 
I have no qualms to say Kohli should remain the Captain of the team.

He has learned the lesson hard way and it would be a pity to replace him at this stage with someone who will cost us few more series or titles learning it fresh.

If it is Kohli who has made a mistake with team selection, it will be Kohli who will do the corrections.
Wait for England series and if he fails again, then take action.


When Rahane won us the Aussies series, I was beginning to think that maybe he is the right man. But such is Kohli's aura and presence that I really don't see Rahane becoming the leader of men like Kohli

I still stick to this.
 
Report Suggests Virat Kohli Might Lose White-Ball Captaincy, Rohit Sharma Could be Asked to Lead

India skipper Virat Kohli might lose his white-ball captaincy and Rohit Sharma could be asked to lead the limited-overs side if the team fails to win the ICC T20 World Cup to be held in the UAE and Oman in October-November this year.

https://www.india.com/sports/report...-rohit-sharma-could-be-asked-to-lead-4946893/

Will Kohli play under someone else's captaincy? Especially given that both Kohli and Rohit had issues with each other just a while ago?

There will be a lot of drama.
 
Kohli is too much of a star to play under someone else's captaincy. He has an ego.

His influence will prevent anyone in BCCI from thinking about replacing him as captain.

Kohli has no influence in BCCI and no godfathers around him.

Ganguly and Dhoni had godfathers Dalmiya & Srinivasan around them to protect.

Kohli has to resign LOI captaincy if India lose the upcoming T20 WC.
 
Kohli has no influence in BCCI and no godfathers around him.

Ganguly and Dhoni had godfathers Dalmiya & Srinivasan around them to protect.

Kohli has to resign LOI captaincy if India lose the upcoming T20 WC.

I doubt it.

If India lose the T20 WC but Kohli regains his form, there won't be a reason to remove him, especially since he was performing.

This talk about letting go of captaincy is only prominent because he isn't performing.

If Kohli goes back to hitting hundreds, nobody will question him.
 
I see average joes of forum have gone silent after england series. Kohli captaincy has been appreciated by opposition team and past greats of game. Kohli has justified his leadership and your only argument is his lack of big scores.
 
Virat Kohli's batting has been the cynosure of all eyes. The India captain, who once scored centuries for fun, has not been without it for almost two years. Even though Kohli has been getting fifties every now and then, a big score has gone missing from the bat of the India skipper. Kohli's lack of centuries has got people linking it to his captaincy, with many believing that the pressure of leading the team is perhaps affecting his batting.

However, former India captain Kapil Dev has dispelled such doubts, saying that had it been the case, Kohli wouldn't have gotten all those runs which he did as captain in the first place. As captain, Kohli has scored over 5500 runs in 65 Tests with 20 centuries and 17 fifties, while in ODIs, the India skipper has hit 21 hundreds and 27 half-centuries, scoring almost 5500 runs from 95 matches.

"For all these years, when he was scoring runs, no one said anything about captaincy affecting Virat's batting and now suddenly, there are opinions when there's been a little up and down in his graph. When he scored those double centuries and so many hundreds, wasn't there pressure then? It means that his captaincy should not be the focus. Instead, look at his ability," Kapil said on the show Uncut.

Kapil weighed in further on Kohli's form and explained that once the India captain returns to his old run-scoring best, Kohli will notch up big centuries. Kohli's highest score in Tests is 254 not out but Kapil feels the India captain could breach a mark which only two Indian batsmen before him have, i.e. – scoring a triple-century.

"The graph has surely gone up and down but for how long? Age 28 to 32 is the time when you really blossom. He is now experienced and mature. If he returns to his old form, Virat will not only score a century or double ton; he will give you 300. He is so much mature now and there is no shortage of fitness when it comes to Kohli. He just needs to identify himself and look to score big," Kapil added.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...l-give-you-300-kapil-dev-101631692459472.html
 
I think he is a really good Test captain. He shouldn't be the LOI captain though.

So, I don't think he should give up Test captaincy.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As I have said earlier and saying it again <a href="https://twitter.com/imVkohli?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@imVkohli</a> is the best Test Captain India have ever had! He's at the top with the win percentage of 59.09% and the second spot is at 45%.</p>— Irfan Pathan (@IrfanPathan) <a href="https://twitter.com/IrfanPathan/status/1467779872969805824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
So Rohit has replaced Kohli as T20I and ODI captain. Is Test captaincy next? I feel he should give up Test captaincy and should only focus on his batting.
 
Virat was never captaincy material and I feel he would have reached even higher standards as batsman if he was left to just batting for the team. As its India has gained nothing with Virat as captain they won 0 ICC trophies, Lost Test championship final, and won nothing away under his captaincy.

He has won a solitary test series against Australia away which was against a depleted Australian side. Rohit should have been captain all this time.
 
What an absurd thread. He is on the way to becoming the Test captain with the most wins..Why would be give up that legacy..
 
Kohli may have the largest number of wins and the highest win percentage in Tests, but as Rahane salvaging the series in Australia after Kohli departed shows it was the Indian players rather than Kolhi's captaincy which has produced that result.

The pathetic performance of the Indian team in the WTC cannot easily be forgotten.
 
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Indian Test skipper Virat Kohli has set a new record on the first day of play in the series opener between India and South Africa at the SuperSport Park in Centurion. Kohli achieved the milestone after winning the toss on the first morning of play in the series.

By virtue of his achievement, Kohli won the toss for the 30th time in Test cricket and become the Indian captain with the most toss wins in history. The Indian Test skipper overtook Mohammad Azharuddin. MS Dhoni is third on the elusive list.

Kohli has won the coin toss 30 times in 68 matches while Azharuddin had won it on 29 occasions in just 47 Test matches. Meanwhile, MS Dhoni had 26 toss wins to his name in 60 Test matches as the captain of the Indian Test team.

Most tosses won by an Indian captain in Test cricket:

30* - Virat Kohli (68 Tests)

29 - Mohammad Azharuddin (47 Tests)

26 - MS Dhoni (60 Tests)

Kohli is already India's most successful captain in Test cricket history with 39 Test wins in 67 matches before today's encounter. Dhoni, who is second on the list had 27 Test wins in 60 games while Ganguly had led India to victory in 21 Test matches in 49 games. Azharuddin had led India to 14 wins in 47 Tests.

Talking about the match, Indian openers Mayank Agarwal and KL Rahul justified Kohli's decision to bat first on a cloudy morning in Centurion. India went into the Lunch break at a score of 83 without losing any wicket. Agarwal is batting unbeaten at 46 while Rahul is not out for 29.

Kohli is aiming to become the first Indian captain to win a Test series on South African soil. Following this game, the two teams will face each other in Johannesburg and Cape Town from January 3 and 11 respectively.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...takes-mohammad-azharuddin-and-ms-dhoni/843820
 
Yep. He then can concentrate solely on his batting, a firing kohli will dismantle attacks, which will benefit both him and the team.
 
MOST TEST VICTORIES AS CAPTAIN
(Captain - P - W - L - D - Success%)

Graeme Smith (South Africa) - 109 - 53 - 29 - 27 - 61.00;
Ricky Ponting (Australia) - 77 - 48 - 16 - 13 - 70.77;
Steve Waugh (Australia) - 57 - 41 - 9 - 7 - 78.07;
Virat Kohli (India) - 67 - 40 - 16 - 11 - 67.91;
Clive Lloyd (West Indies) - 74 - 36 - 12 - 26 - 66.21.


https://www.outlookindia.com/websit...nd-virat-kohli-record-stats-highlights/407525

Virat Kohli also became the Asian captain with the most Test Wins in South Africa, England, New Zealand and Australia with 7. He is followed by Pakistan legends Wasim Akram and Javed Miandad, both of whom have 4 victories each

https://indianexpress.com/article/s...s-south-africa-1st-test-records-2021-7698320/
 
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