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ISIS has published an article saying that enslaving women is justified under their interpretation of Shariah.

Don't listen to CNN, FOX ********. CNN and FOX are known to quote things that haven't been said. Im not defending ISIS. See if this statement was officially released by the ISIS. Remember when Algore was declared the winner of 2000 US presidential election and then FOX And CNN came with George W Bush as the winner ? CNN and FOX investors have many investment in US arms manufacturing companies. They always want to sell war. I dare you to watch FOX or CNN news for a week at least 1hour a week, you will go nuts if you have any kind of background knowledge in world politics.
 
I wonder what happened to Bosnia to have made such pretty girls so radicalised? I just read somewhere today that 8,000 men were butchered in one town alone by the Serbs while the UN looked the other way.
That was the day the UN ceased to be a credible organisation. Bosnia is a fairly secular country though and the crazies are a tiny percentage just like any other place.

Anyway it seems Kobane is going to fall to ISIL, don't know how long the Syrian Kurds can last. Turkey will not intervene to help as the main Syrian Kurd fighter group in Kobane is allied to the PKK.

Turkish Kurds are protesting at their govt with 33 dead in clashes over the last week. The whole region has become a hornet's nest.
 
Don't listen to CNN, FOX ********. CNN and FOX are known to quote things that haven't been said. Im not defending ISIS. See if this statement was officially released by the ISIS.

This is the source. Of course this is only their interpretation of Shariah - and one not shared by the majority.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en-gb"><p>Full copy of "Islamic State" English magazine Dabiq. Page 14 to 17 describes how they sold &enslaved Yezidi women <a href="https://t.co/WzJCHdzCu4">https://t.co/WzJCHdzCu4</a></p>— Jenan Moussa (@jenanmoussa) <a href="https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/521626175852920834">October 13, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Good picture which sums up this situation. This may not be 100% accurate but I will say a reasonable estimate. It's alarming to see so many coming from Europe. As expected , UK is leading in western europe but so many tiny countries are sending many young men/women. Russia is a big one which I didn't anticipate.

I didn't realize that even Aus was sending a sizable number. I meant, in terms of their population.
 
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Kudos to Indian muslims. Largest population in any country and yet next to zero involvement in extremism.
 
Look at Russia!

They are most probably from Chechnya according to my understanding. That region even had a fight with russia about a decade ago. But the neighboring countries must be worried because of this especially Lebanon and Jordan.
 
Russia was sorta expected but China... ? Looks like the situation in Xinjiang is worse than what is being reported in the media.
 
23 Afghanistan
300+ Pakistan

Whats happening there? heads must role. i expected the numbers reversed.




Also, too many folks going from Australia. :O
 
unlike pakistanis, afghans don't want to go to other countries to cause trouble. they only cause trouble for themselves!
 
Cant believe more came from Ireland than Afghanistan especially when our population is so small, Worrying figures
 
ISIS Draws a Steady Stream of Recruits From Turkey

ANKARA, Turkey — Having spent most of his youth as a drug addict in one of the poorest neighborhoods of Turkey’s capital, Can did not think he had much to lose when he was smuggled into Syria with 10 of his childhood friends to join the world’s most extreme jihadist group. After 15 days at a training camp in the Syrian city of Raqqa, the de facto headquarters of the group, the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, the 27-year-old Can was assigned to a fighting unit. He said he shot two men and participated in a public execution. It was only after he buried a man alive that he was told he had become a full ISIS fighter.

“When you fight over there, it’s like being in a trance,” said Can, who asked to be referred to only by his middle name for fear of reprisal. “Everyone shouts, ‘God is the greatest,’ which gives you divine strength to kill the enemy without being fazed by blood or splattered guts,” he said.

Hundreds of foreign fighters, including some from Europe and the United States, have joined the ranks of ISIS in its self-proclaimed caliphate that sweeps over vast territories of Iraq and Syria. But one of the biggest source of recruits is neighboring Turkey, a NATO member with an undercurrent of Islamist discontent.

As many as 1,000 Turks have joined ISIS, according to Turkish news media reports and government officials here. Recruits cite the group’s ideological appeal to disaffected youths as well as the money it pays fighters from its flush coffers. The C.I.A. estimated last week that the group had from 20,000 to 31,500 fighters in Iraq and Syria. The United States has put heavy pressure on Turkey’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, to better police Turkey’s 560-mile-long border with Syria. Washington wants Turkey to stanch the flow of foreign fighters and to stop ISIS from exporting the oil it produces on territory it holds in Syria and Iraq.

So far, Mr. Erdogan has resisted pleas to take aggressive steps against the group, citing the fate of 49 Turkish hostages ISIS has held since militants took over Iraq’s second-largest city, Mosul, in June. Turkey declined to sign a communiqué last Thursday that committed a number of regional states to take “appropriate” new measures to counter ISIS, frustrating American officials.

For years, Turkey has striven to set an example of Islamic democracy in the Middle East through its “zero problems with neighbors” prescription, the guiding principle of Ahmet Davutoglu, who recently became Turkey’s prime minister after serving for years as foreign minister. But miscalculations have left the country isolated and vulnerable in a region now plagued by war.

Turkey has been criticized at home and abroad for an open border policy in the early days of the Syrian uprising. Critics say that policy was crucial to the rise of ISIS. Turkey had bet that rebel forces would quickly topple the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, but as the war evolved, the extremists have benefited from the chaos.

Turkish fighters recruited by ISIS say they identify more with the extreme form of Islamic governance practiced by ISIS than with the rule of the Turkish governing party, which has its roots in a more moderate form of Islam.

Hacibayram, a ramshackle neighborhood in the heart of Ankara’s tourist district, has morphed into an ISIS recruitment hub over the past year. Locals say up to 100 residents have gone to fight for the group in Syria.

It began when a stranger with a long, coarse beard started showing up in the neighborhood,” recalled Arif Akbas, the neighborhood’s elected headman of 30 years, who oversees local affairs. “The next thing we knew, all the drug addicts started going to the mosque.”

One of the first men to join ISIS from the neighborhood was Ozguzhan Gozlemcioglu, known to his ISIS counterparts as Muhammad Salef. In three years, he has risen to the status of a regional commander in Raqqa, and locals say he frequently travels in and out of Ankara, each time making sure to take back new recruits with him.

Mehmet Arabaci, a Hacibayram resident who assists with distributing government aid to the poor, said younger members of the local community found online pictures of Mr. Gozlemcioglu with weapons on the field and immediately took interest. Children have started to spend more time online since the municipality knocked down the only school in the area last year as part of an aggressive urban renewal project.

“There are now seven mosques in the vicinity, but not one school,” Mr. Arabaci said. “The lives of children here are so vacant that they find any excuse to be sucked into action.”

Playing in the rubble of a demolished building on a recent hot day here, two young boys staged a fight with toy guns.

When a young Syrian girl walked past them, they pounced on her, knocking her to the floor and pushing their toy rifles against her head. “I’m going to kill you, *****,” one of the boys shouted before launching into sound effects that imitated a machine gun.

The other boy quickly lost interest and walked away. “Toys are so boring,” he said. “I have real guns upstairs.”

The boy’s father, who owns a nearby market, said he fully supported ISIS’s vision for Islamic governance and hoped to send the boy and his other sons to Raqqa when they are older.

“The diluted form of Islam practiced in Turkey is an insult to the religion,” he said giving only his initials, T.C., to protect his identity. “In the Islamic State you lead a life of discipline as dictated by God, and then you are rewarded. Children there have parks and swimming pools. Here, my children play in the dirt.”

But when Can returned from Raqqa after three months with two of the original 10 friends he had left with, he was full of regret. “ISIS is brutal,” he said. “They interpret the Quran for their own gains. God never ordered Muslims to kill Muslims.”

Still, he said many were drawn to the group for financial reasons, as it appealed to disadvantaged youth in less prosperous parts of Turkey. “When you fight, they offer $150 a day. Then everything else is free,” he said. “Even the shopkeepers give you free products out of fear.”

ISIS recruitment in Hacibayram caught the news media’s attention in June when a local 14-year-old recruit came back to the neighborhood after he was wounded in a shelling attack in Raqqa. The boy’s father, Yusuf, said that the government had made no formal inquiry into the episode and that members of the local community had started to condemn what they saw as inaction by the authorities.

“There are clearly recruitment centers being set up in Ankara and elsewhere in Turkey, but the government doesn’t seem to care,” said Aaron Stein, a fellow at the Royal United Services Institute, a London-based think tank. “It seems their hatred for Bashar al-Assad and their overly nuanced view of what radical Islam is has led to a very short- and narrow-sighted policy that has serious implications.”

The Interior Ministry and National Police Department did not respond to requests for comment. On a recent afternoon in Ankara, Mr. Erdogan and Mr. Davutoglu came to pray at the historic Haci Bayram Veli Mosque, just over 100 yards away from an underground mosque used by a radical Salafi sect known to oversee ISIS recruits.

When news of their visit reached the neighborhood, several residents scurried down the steep hill hoping to catch an opportunity to raise the issue. At the same time, a 10-year-old boy lingered in his family’s shop, laughing at the crowd rushing to get a glimpse of the two leaders. He had just listened to a long lecture from his father celebrating ISIS’ recent beheading of James Foley, an American journalist. “He was an agent and deserved to die,” the man told his son, half-smirking through his thick beard.

To which the boy replied, “Journalists, infidels of this country; we’ll kill them all.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/world/europe/turkey-is-a-steady-source-of-isis-recruits.html?_r=0

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It seems Turkey is turning a blind eye towards this due to some other agenda. Never a good thing because if it grows too much then it will come back to haunt Turkey. Radicalization of such a nice country will be a disaster.
 
yeah.. afghan refugess are harmless then the pakistani terrorists who have been caught in other countries? am i wrong?

not really.

In any case Afghan refugees prolly also form a big base of this number and for technical reasons count as Pakistanis in this graphic
 
Iran sticks out like a sore thumb :))

Also India. Good job!

Its also been a shocking phenomenon to see so many from the secular Balkan countries
 
I didn't realize that even Aus was sending a sizable number. I meant, in terms of their population.

Look at Belgium and Netherlands strange numbers because the population of these Europeans countries is even less than Australia .
 
Good on Bangladesh too.

Shocking to see Turkey despite its secular credentials.

Whatever the reason, it is impressive (is there a better word with a negative connotation but the same meaning???) to see that ISIS has so nuch representation and is not a single ethnicity driven movement like most of these ideological movements which use terrorism as a means to achieve their goals
 
The most strange number for me is Albania this European country population (2.7 mil) is even less than Rawalpindi City (3 mil) and still 148 are from Albania.
 
The most strange number for me is Albania this European country population (2.7 mil) is even less than Rawalpindi City (3 mil) and still 148 are from Albania.

even Kosova has a lot of representation. And they are tiny too.

one of the Kosovar Albanians is top dog in ISIS

the shocking thing here is that Albanians are so secular that they are barely muslims. my friend says they drink beer (or vodka) in his local mosque after Eid prayers :))
 
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even Kosova has a lot of representation. And they are tiny too.

one of the Kosovar Albanians is top dog in ISIS

the shocking thing here is that Albanians are so secular that they are barely muslims. my friend says they drink beer (or vodka) in his local mosque after Eid prayers :))

that is really strange btw Malaysia isn't there as expected.
 
23 Afghanistan
300+ Pakistan

Whats happening there? heads must role. i expected the numbers reversed.




Also, too many folks going from Australia. :O

There was article that TTP, Tehreek Taliban Pakistan, pledged to support ISIS fully, even though it is rumoured to be originate in Pakistan, yet it has safe haven in Afghanistan - legal support.

The Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) declared allegiance to Islamic State (IS) on Saturday and ordered militants across the region to help the Middle Eastern group in its campaign to set up a global Islamic caliphate.

The Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) declared allegiance to Islamic State (IS) on Saturday and ordered militants across the region to help the Middle Eastern group in its campaign to set up a global Islamic caliphate.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/771622/joining-forces-ttp-declares-allegiance-to-islamic-state/

Besides, there are more Pathans in Pakistan than Afghanistan, especially in Karachi where MQM workers are being threatened by TTP through extortion letters. So, it makes sense why the numbers is high from Pakistan. Besides, TTP gets handsome support especially from one of political party - share the similar name as well.


MQM leaders receiving 'extortion letters' from Taliban

KARACHI: Militants of the Pakistani Taliban have been demanding extortion money from at least 11 key members of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) in Karachi, the party revealed on Monday.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1137711/

^ It is crucial that Pakistan should get involved in supporting USA/UK/CAN against ISIS+TTP [Khawarji organizations].
 
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unlike pakistanis, afghans don't want to go to other countries to cause trouble. they only cause trouble for themselves!

Reality begs to differ. There is no disputing on the fact that Afghanistan is pain in the a$$ for Pakistan, indeed huge burden on Pakistan.
 
Reality begs to differ. There is no disputing on the fact that Afghanistan is pain in the a$$ for Pakistan, indeed huge burden on Pakistan.

We shouldn't be talking like that when mentioning our Muslim brothers.
 
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The only reason why Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh are low in numbers because they can't afford to fly there. If someone pay for their air travel, I'm damn sure the numbers will be much higher.
 
The only reason why Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh are low in numbers because they can't afford to fly there. If someone pay for their air travel, I'm damn sure the numbers will be much higher.

LOL @ this logic!

You think these guys pay for their travel themselves? Its not a vacation. They are going with the express aim of fightig for an Islamic state and hence ISIS and its subsidiaries covers their costs.. Do you even know how vast the budget of ISIS is?
 
The only reason why Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh are low in numbers because they can't afford to fly there. If someone pay for their air travel, I'm damn sure the numbers will be much higher.

What even makes you think those 330 Pakistanis used planes to get there, there are other ways to get there too. Its about time many Indians start using their brains instead of trolling 24/7. During the past few months, this whole forum has been turned into mess because of many of you Indians.
 
What even makes you think those 330 Pakistanis used planes to get there, there are other ways to get there too. Its about time many Indians start using their brains instead of trolling 24/7. During the past few months, this whole forum has been turned into mess because of many of you Indians.

i really hope for his sake that he is trolling..

otherwise there are bigger issues for him to sort out..

i love the fact how he even thinks abt the possibility that they flew there... What reason must they have given in their visa application haha?
 
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Europe seems to have the most radicalised lot. France,UK,Belgium,Netherlands,Germany. Multiculturalism in Europe = fail.
 
What even makes you think those 330 Pakistanis used planes to get there, there are other ways to get there too. Its about time many Indians start using their brains instead of trolling 24/7. During the past few months, this whole forum has been turned into mess because of many of you Indians.

How else could they get there? Cant exactly walk, drive, train or take a boat there.
 
What even makes you think those 330 Pakistanis used planes to get there, there are other ways to get there too. Its about time many Indians start using their brains instead of trolling 24/7. During the past few months, this whole forum has been turned into mess because of many of you Indians.

Also any idea how these figures are tracked? Im shocked not 1 Indian to be honest out of 200 million.
 
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What even makes you think those 330 Pakistanis used planes to get there, there are other ways to get there too. Its about time many Indians start using their brains instead of trolling 24/7. During the past few months, this whole forum has been turned into mess because of many of you Indians.

You're going overboard with the act these days. Might want to tone it down a little before people catch on, although I'm surprised you've kept it going for this long.
 
You're going overboard with the act these days. Might want to tone it down a little before people catch on, although I'm surprised you've kept it going for this long.

Your countrymen need your advice more than me.
 
How accurate are these? What method do they use to count?

In Syria, there is more than just ISIS.

Some groups are legit, fighting the Asad regime, many Muslims travel to fight alongside them.
 
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What even makes you think those 330 Pakistanis used planes to get there, there are other ways to get there too. Its about time many Indians start using their brains instead of trolling 24/7. During the past few months, this whole forum has been turned into mess because of many of you Indians.





Did they use camels? You gotta be kidding if you don't think they flew from different parts of the world.
 
i really hope for his sake that he is trolling..

otherwise there are bigger issues for him to sort out..

i love the fact how he even thinks abt the possibility that they flew there... What reason must they have given in their visa application haha?


What reasons did the beheaded U.k's social worker give in his visa application?
 
unlike pakistanis, afghans don't want to go to other countries to cause trouble. they only cause trouble for themselves!

Yep. They just have to cross the border east to KPK and then use our resources ....
 
The radicalization of europe and america is worrying.The problem is that this will create further social divide and as the govt. Will crackdown on this it may further increase the problem.But a crackdown is a must.

Chinese censored media may not let it out but the issue of extremism is getting bigger in Xiangxin.

I am proud of my countrymen for rejecting this extremist IsIs.
 
Guess what? I must have lied.
Yeah after you got caught.In many threads you tried to pass yourself as an Indian and tried to make your comments look like the Indian POV.Pathetic attempt at trolling.
 
ISIS Draws a Steady Stream of Recruits From Turkey

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/world/europe/turkey-is-a-steady-source-of-isis-recruits.html?_r=0

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It seems Turkey is turning a blind eye towards this due to some other agenda. Never a good thing because if it grows too much then it will come back to haunt Turkey. Radicalization of such a nice country will be a disaster.

Can't help but draw the parallel between Turkey vis-à-vis ISIS and Pakistan vis-à-vis Taliban. Read this editorial a few days ago which talked about the same. A warning for Turkey to clean its house or be prepared to go down the path of "Pakistanization".



Pakistan’s Lessons for Turkey


Last week, Turkey’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, declared that Turkey is ready “for any cooperation in the fight against terrorism.” Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu argued that Islamic State militants pose a greater threat to Turkey and the Muslim world than to the West.

But Turkey’s dilemma is far more grave than its leaders realize. Indeed, Turkey’s current situation resembles the early years of Pakistan’s sponsorship of the Taliban. The Islamic State is recruiting militants in Turkey. And failure to clean its own house now could lead Turkey down the path of “Pakistanization,” whereby a resident jihadist infrastructure causes Sunni extremism to ingrain itself deeply within the fabric of society.

Although Turkey now recognizes the threat — the Turkish government voted to authorize military force in Iraq and Syria on Thursday — it has yet to come to terms with its own responsibility for helping to create it.

Turkey claims that radical groups grew stronger because moderates seeking the overthrow of President Bashar al-Assad of Syria were not given adequate aid. But that is not the whole picture. As Francis J. Ricciardone Jr., the former American ambassador to Turkey, has pointed out, Ankara supported radical groups, including the Nusra Front. Indeed, during the early days of Syria’s civil war, jihadist groups funneled fighters and resources through Turkey into Syria.

Turkey’s intervention in the Syrian civil war parallels Pakistan’s support of the Taliban to affect the course of the Afghan civil war. But the jihadism abetted by Pakistan did not remain across the Afghan border. Turkey may now be witnessing the beginnings of a similar blowback.

While the magnitude of Turkey’s recent engagement of jihadist proxies isn’t comparable to Pakistan’s long history of jihadist sponsorship, the late Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto’s ill-fated relationship with the Sunni extremists of Pakistan’s Deobandi movement is still instructive for Turkey. Pakistan’s Deobandis dedicated themselves to implementing “the system of the Caliphate of the Rightly Guided,” a Sunni sectarian state to serve as a South Asian stepping stone to a worldwide Islamic caliphate.

Pakistan’s experience with blowback began prior to Ms. Bhutto’s tenure, when General Zia ul-Haq’s regime backed mujahedeen militias as proxies to combat Soviet forces in Afghanistan. Organized by Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence directorate with assistance from the United States and Saudi Arabia, the recruitment networks within Pakistan started a radicalization process among segments of Pakistan’s population. The most susceptible group was the more than three million Afghan refugees. (The I.S.I. in particular backed Hekmatyar Gulbuddin’s Hezb-i-Islami, which was part of a rival to movement to the Deobandis.)

Afghan refugee boys began attending Deobandi madrassas, and small numbers of teachers and students began joining militant groups to fight the Soviets. Upon the Soviet withdrawal and the fall of the Afghan Communist government, the mujahedeen turned on one another, prolonging Afghanistan’s civil war, and the presence of millions of Afghan refugees in Pakistan.

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In 1994, Ms. Bhutto began to abet militancy to secure Pakistani objectives in Afghanistan. The Bhutto government facilitated a paramilitary force of thousands of madrassa students to cross the border and take control of Afghanistan’s Kandahar Province. With Pakistan’s help, this militia of “Taliban,” literally “students,” conquered large swaths of Afghan territory and declared its commander, Mullah Omar, to be caliph. Like the Taliban before them, the Islamic State has designated its commander, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, as caliph and calls the territories under its control a caliphate.

Their militancy soon crossed the border. After the initial stage of mobilizing volunteers and weapons for jihad in Afghanistan, a second phase developed in which Pakistan witnessed a wave of anti-Shiite violence, including bombings of Karachi’s major Shiite mosques by the Taliban’s sister organization in Pakistan, Sipah-e Sahaba.

The Turkish government’s decision to turn a blind eye to Islamic State activity within its borders has similarly led to the extremists’ increasing influence in certain areas of Turkey’s major cities. The recent and unprecedented arson attacks on Shiite mosques in Istanbul may indicate that Turkey is entering this second phase. Turkey is home to only a small Shiite community; but Turkey’s Alevis, a heterodox Muslim sect often regarded as heretical by Sunnis, constitute about 20 percent of Turkey’s population.

A campaign by Sunni extremists against the Alevi community could lead Turkey into a Pakistan-like vortex of sectarian violence and radicalization. The present government’s own politics of polarization, illustrated by Mr. Erdogan’s baiting of the opposition leader Kemal Kilicdaroglu due to his Alevi background during Turkey’s recent presidential election campaign, may further inflame sectarian tensions. And Islamic State militants will not hesitate to exploit the Sunni-Alevi fault line in Turkish society.

Pakistan’s final and most dangerous stage of extremism occurred when the flow of militants and resources was reversed. As the Taliban conquered most of Afghanistan, it provided training camps and other logistical support to its allies, making it harder for Pakistan to control militant organizations inside its borders. After 9/11, Gen. Pervez Musharraf attempted to crack down on militants inside Pakistan. His efforts culminated in the 2007 Red Mosque battle in Islamabad and the subsequent coalescing of militants into the movement known as the Pakistani Taliban.

Turkey has not experienced this stage yet. But the Islamic State may find fertile recruiting ground among Turkey’s 1.3 million Syrian refugees. And Turkish citizens may be drawn into the orbit of militancy just as segments of Pakistan’s population have been. If the Islamic State’s Turkish networks remain intact, Turkey runs the risk that homegrown militants will be empowered by the return of fighters from Islamic State territory in Syria and Iraq.

Ms. Bhutto’s strategy of employing militant proxies to create a client state in Afghanistan succeeded — but at a high price for Pakistan. That is a warning for Turkey, which must recognize that it cannot shield itself from Sunni militancy while pursuing a Sunni sectarian foreign policy in the Middle East.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/06/opinion/pakistans-lessons-for-turkey.html?_r=0


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Yeah after you got caught.In many threads you tried to pass yourself as an Indian and tried to make your comments look like the Indian POV.Pathetic attempt at trolling.

But I didn't tried to be Indian in this thread yet you still have a problem? I never try to troll unlike you, keyboard warrior.
 
The radicalization of europe and america is worrying.The problem is that this will create further social divide and as the govt. Will crackdown on this it may further increase the problem.But a crackdown is a must.

Chinese censored media may not let it out but the issue of extremism is getting bigger in Xiangxin.

I am proud of my countrymen for rejecting this extremist IsIs.

So what should be done to tackle extremism in western world?
 

Guess what? I must have lied.

Yeah after you got caught.In many threads you tried to pass yourself as an Indian and tried to make your comments look like the Indian POV.Pathetic attempt at trolling.

But I didn't tried to be Indian in this thread yet you still have a problem? I never try to troll unlike you, keyboard warrior.

I remember you are one of Imranistan, POTIAN.

I have always questioned the integrity of Imranistan given their performance in the official Azadi march thread. But with this proof, you are not helping at all.

Why would you pretend to be Indian? :facepalm:
 
But I didn't tried to be Indian in this thread yet you still have a problem? I never try to troll unlike you, keyboard warrior.
How can you pretend?When your troll attempt was caught at the very beginning.What kind of person will even try to hide his nationality just to try and troll people and then you call others trolls.LOL.
 
How can you pretend?When your troll attempt was caught at the very beginning.What kind of person will even try to hide his nationality just to try and troll people and then you call others trolls.LOL.
Lol what in the actual.....where exactly was I trolling in this thread? You seem offended keyboard warrior. I will say whatever I want. We live in a democracy unlike secular India.
 
Lol what in the actual.....where exactly was I trolling in this thread? You seem offended keyboard warrior. I will say whatever I want. We live in a democracy unlike secular India.
Still you wanted to be an Indian on PP.Ohhh My My My!!!!
 
I remember you are one of Imranistan, POTIAN.

I have always questioned the integrity of Imranistan given their performance in the official Azadi march thread. But with this proof, you are not helping at all.

Why would you pretend to be Indian? :facepalm:
Nothing to do with the thread. But Malik saab this might let you settle some points on this virtual life of forums but in reality we are getting no where other than wasting our times.
 
Don't listen to CNN, FOX ********. CNN and FOX are known to quote things that haven't been said. Im not defending ISIS. See if this statement was officially released by the ISIS. Remember when Algore was declared the winner of 2000 US presidential election and then FOX And CNN came with George W Bush as the winner ? CNN and FOX investors have many investment in US arms manufacturing companies. They always want to sell war. I dare you to watch FOX or CNN news for a week at least 1hour a week, you will go nuts if you have any kind of background knowledge in world politics.

It's not CNN that is coming up with the explanation it's quoted directly out of ISIS's online magazine Dabiq.


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BTW pretty disgusting attitude by Turkey. They are letting the kurds die at the hands of ISIS in the area right next to Turkish border. At least at this point they should see past their rivalries.
 
I'm certain a couple of nutjobs from here have indeed gone out there, but on the whole - gotta love our Islamic population.
 
BTW pretty disgusting attitude by Turkey. They are letting the kurds die at the hands of ISIS in the area right next to Turkish border. At least at this point they should see past their rivalries.


Could be they want ISIS to wipe out the Kurds before they move in. Bit like the Soviets letting the Germans take Poland and get rid of the Jews in there before ultimately taking it over without having to deal with the Jews.
 
Clearly the appeal that this group holds is universal. There's something about them that is drawing heaps of disaffected Muslims. A lot of these people are giving their lives up as drivers of suicide car bombs to try and get past the Kurdish defences in Kobani.
 
Clearly the appeal that this group holds is universal. There's something about them that is drawing heaps of disaffected Muslims. A lot of these people are giving their lives up as drivers of suicide car bombs to try and get past the Kurdish defences in Kobani.

Nothing new there. There are always enough believers looking for a short and quick route to paradise. Same thing was happening during Afghan Soviet war with volunteers joining from all over the world. We didn't hear much about it then because the jihadis were on the 'right side'.
 
Indian Muslims are too uneducated to get involved with radical Islam. The trend with Sunni Muslims is the more educated they are, the more likely they are to get attracted to radical Islamic ideology etc. That's why so many are coming from Europe.
 
Those stupid enough should go to Syria and Iraq...
Corner them and then finish them off once and for all..

Job Done!
 
Indian Muslims are too uneducated to get involved with radical Islam. The trend with Sunni Muslims is the more educated they are, the more likely they are to get attracted to radical Islamic ideology etc. That's why so many are coming from Europe.

Not entirely true. If you looked at a cross section of European Muslims, you would see the lesser educated among them being the ones going radical, and jobless North African immigrants in France/Holland being more prominent than South Asians in the UK
 
I remember you are one of Imranistan, POTIAN.

I have always questioned the integrity of Imranistan given their performance in the official Azadi march thread. But with this proof, you are not helping at all.

Why would you pretend to be Indian? :facepalm:

Another poor attempt of derailing thread for your own agenda and hate against IK and PTI. MalikMohsin you are getting exposed on PP everyday!
 
Not entirely true. If you looked at a cross section of European Muslims, you would see the lesser educated among them being the ones going radical, and jobless North African immigrants in France/Holland being more prominent than South Asians in the UK

Not too sure about France but in the UK a lot of them have been described as 'star pupils' and as having attended top schools and universities. For example http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-pupils-eton-state-schools-linked-terror.html
 
Nothing new there. There are always enough believers looking for a short and quick route to paradise. Same thing was happening during Afghan Soviet war with volunteers joining from all over the world. We didn't hear much about it then because the jihadis were on the 'right side'.

I still remember the disaffected people from Africa amd Asia joining the British empire and the French Empire in the first two world wars, they must have been looking for a quick and short route too
 
Indian Muslims are too uneducated to get involved with radical Islam. The trend with Sunni Muslims is the more educated they are, the more likely they are to get attracted to radical Islamic ideology etc. That's why so many are coming from Europe.


This could be true to some extent as i have actually observed the more religiously informed muslims tend to be more emotional about these things and are eager to be part of such rebellions either on the field or on the internet. The less informed and poor muslims tend not to be too fussed about what happens to muslims of other countries. They are more concerned with whats on their plate.

I think India has the ideal mix of education system and cultural environment that rarely lets the muslim youth harbour extremist feelings. God forbid if madrassas ran across India like they do in Pakistan, we would be banging our heads against the walls.
 
I think India has the ideal mix of education system and cultural environment that rarely lets the muslim youth harbour extremist feelings. God forbid if madrassas ran across India like they do in Pakistan, we would be banging our heads against the walls.

Something to do with the soil here. The Deobandi school started in India, and is still a progressive one, issuing pro education and pro tolerance fatwas, but in Pakistan the Deobandis are extremists. Same with Jamat-e-Islami, the bangladeshi and pakistani versions are right wing, with the indian chapter of JI is moderate.

Maybe that is why the Prophet(pbuh) had said, that I feel a cool breeze from Hind.
 
I think India has the ideal mix of education system and cultural environment that rarely lets the muslim youth harbour extremist feelings. God forbid if madrassas ran across India like they do in Pakistan, we would be banging our heads against the walls.

And let's not jinx that shall we?
 
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