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Is Mohammad Amir untouchable?

92 for 0 in two matches but there was a thread about how he was the best "wicketless" bowler while others like Hasan weren't even discussed despite a potential match winning spell from him.

IMO, Its a combination of needing a "star", some good PR (because he is young and tragic) and the sunk cost fallacy (where people have invested so much time and effort for him and emotions, they see what they want to see and not reality)
 
moghul said:
Who bowled better under pressure cooker like situation against India, Hasan or Amir ? Hasan conceded 70 runs at ER 7.0 and Amir at 3.91 with no support from other end while a spinner was operating. As usual most of our criticism are based on personal likeness or otherwise and not on merit.
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When Amir bowls his great "wicketless" spells, Pakistan still loses. When Ali bowls his best spell your team wins. Please check all recent matches you won, tests or ODIs, you will find that its always some bowler taking 3-4 wickets when you won, Sohail, Ali, etc. Except one Aussie match Amir had 0 impact even in his so called "best" spells
 
Yea like you guys have wasim and waqars playing domestic.. unnecessary criticism towards amir he is doing okayish, need to work with bowling coach a bit more to strategise plans on trapping batsmen to get wickets..
 
Indiafan said:
When Amir bowls his great "wicketless" spells, Pakistan still loses. When Ali bowls his best spell your team wins. Please check all recent matches you won, tests or ODIs, you will find that its always some bowler taking 3-4 wickets when you won, Sohail, Ali, etc. Except one Aussie match Amir had 0 impact even in his so called "best" spells
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And of course his 5-fer against West Indies
 
Me: Amir does not take wickets.

Amir fans: He will, if this happens and that happens but unfortunately that happened and then this happened but that would have happened if this would have happened but unfortunately that did not happen so he will take wickets if this happens and that happens but unfortunately that did not happen but he will take wickets if this happens.
 
should get his acts together and start taking wickets otherwise should be booted out

this guy is the golden boy of PCB who is not performing since his return and yet gets selected in every format of the game without question

shouldnt be opened with, hasan ali should be opened with
 
its a team sports guys. Would rather take his wicketless accurate spell than wicket + loads of spanking spell...
 
The blind support for Amir is shocking. For the first time I have read that despite Amir being wicket less, he shouldn't be dropped just because of his economy. What type of defensive thinking is this? Can't believe many are making lame grounds for him. Sorry state of affairs.
 
Why no one questions Mohammad Amir's place in the XI

His figures in the tournament reads 22 overs 101 runs for 0 wicket. Yes he continues to get a free ride in the team as a new ball bowler he never gives the breakthrough and continues to bowl harmless short of length dross. Its finally time to call spade a spade and drop him for his mediocre output.
 
Who you going to replace him with?

Ideally he does need to pick up wickets but in the modern game economy is just as important and he has offered a lot of control in that regard.
 
Hassan Ali... rumman raees.. Shadab Khan... WE NEED SMART BOWLER!!! not super phasst Wahab and Aamer
 
khalil1986 said:
Who you going to replace him with?

Ideally he does need to pick up wickets but in the modern game economy is just as important and he has offered a lot of control in that regard.
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In modern ODI's the best way to control runs is take wickets what was the use of Amie 4 RPO economy vs India as they still scored 320 in 48 overs. If strike bowler is not picking wickets he is useless.
 
Xoib said:
In modern ODI's the best way to control runs is take wickets what was the use of Amie 4 RPO economy vs India as they still scored 320 in 48 overs. If strike bowler is not picking wickets he is useless.
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Maybe you should criticize the bowlers who went all over the park without taking wickets rather than the guy who contained runs without taking wickets.

He will need to improve his wicket taking ability but let's not fool ourselves he is still one of the better bowlers we have.
 
His shameless fans defend him no matter what.


There is on replacement at all for this " Crown Prince of Fast Bowling "
 
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He is responsible for all the wickets that the other bowlers take. It is all because of the pressure that he creates.
 
khalil1986 said:
Maybe you should criticize the bowlers who went all over the park without taking wickets rather than the guy who contained runs without taking wickets.

He will need to improve his wicket taking ability but let's not fool ourselves he is still one of the better bowlers we have.
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yes but my point is had he taken couple of wickets India would not have had million wickets left to go gung ho once the final onslaught started his lack of wicket taking is hampering the team as being the main strike bowler the team looks up to him to give crucial breakthroughs.
 
khalil1986 said:
Maybe you should criticize the bowlers who went all over the park without taking wickets rather than the guy who contained runs without taking wickets.

He will need to improve his wicket taking ability but let's not fool ourselves he is still one of the better bowlers we have.
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fun fact. Both bumrah and bhuvi have a better economy rate than amir despite taking wickets.
 
When was the last time Mohammad Amir even took a wicket?
 
Mamoon said:
He is responsible for all the wickets that the other bowlers take. It is all because of the pressure that he creates.
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ABSOLUTELY NO PRESSURE built from Aamer... and Hassan takes a beautiful wicket.. MASHALLAH
 
Mamoon said:
He is responsible for all the wickets that the other bowlers take. It is all because of the pressure that he creates.
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Absolutely. 3 dot balls from Amir create so much pressure than Junaid takes a wicket. However Juanid bowls two maiden overs and Amir cannot take a wicket next over. Which shows Amir dot balls are so much special than any other bowlers
 
Indiafan said:
Absolutely. 3 dot balls from Amir create so much pressure than Junaid takes a wicket. However Juanid bowls two maiden overs and Amir cannot take a wicket next over. Which shows Amir dot balls are so much special than any other bowlers
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EXACTLY what I was about to say. Aamer created NO PRESSURE.. junaid bowled dots, but he doesn't get credit... why??
 
Indiafan said:
fun fact. Both bumrah and bhuvi have a better economy rate than amir despite taking wickets.
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Like I said he will obviously need to start taking wickets to keep his place but the alternatives are no better than him but yes his criticism is justified.
 
khalil1986 said:
Like I said he will obviously need to start taking wickets to keep his place but the alternatives are no better than him but yes his criticism is justified.
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This was said many times. but look at Ali coming and taking bucketloads of wickets. Sohail Khan did in test. It's a myth being peddled because Amir is economical. Today every seam bowler has looked better than Amir except his first ball
 
He's bowled well without taking wickets

But at some point he has to start taking wickets, I agree he can't continue to get a free pass because of his extraordinary talent

Somehow he needs to change approach. He seems to pretty defensive, looking to stop runs rather than all out attack
 
Indiafan said:
This was said many times. but look at Ali coming and taking bucketloads of wickets. Sohail Khan did in test. It's a myth being peddled because Amir is economical. Today every seam bowler has looked better than Amir except his first ball
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I don't believe there are, just a genuine lack of quality bowlers in Pakistan at the moment however if there are any who are doing well than Amir will need to step up or make way.
 
what is the extent of 'bowling well'???

0 for 50
0 for 60
0 for 80???

Rest Aamer for Rumman Raees... if we win SL
 
Because, he is what half decent left in PAK with some sort of new ball management (not even saying skill).

Posters have no idea what'll happen if a pair from Wahab, JK, Hasan, Raees or Fahim is to bowl with these white Kookaburra in 1st power play with 9 men in side inner ring & 2 forced catching fielders ......... In one of his best days, with 2 maidens & 1 wicket - JK has gone for 28 in 5 overs - that's 28 in 3 against SRL & he is couple of clouds above anyone next handling the new ball, which other PAK pacers these days handle as if it's a wet soap.

I wish, I could have seen Wahab & Raees/Fahim taking the new ball against the Pom opening pair for once ..............
 
coy0607 said:
He's bowled well without taking wickets

But at some point he has to start taking wickets, I agree he can't continue to get a free pass because of his extraordinary talent

Somehow he needs to change approach. He seems to pretty defensive, looking to stop runs rather than all out attack
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He will need to either add more pace or add some other dimension to his bowling as at the moment unless it swings he doesn't have many other tricks and with the way pitches are around the world in LOI he can't expect to get much assistance in that regard.

Think he will still do ok in tests where he will get a little more reaction with red ball.
 
Yes. He's so UNTOUCHABLE. That he can't even touch the pad nor stumps.
 
Every player has a honeymoon period. That period for Amir is now coming to an end. He's going to have to put out now to get appreciation from the public.
 
gets a lucky wicket which might hide his pathetic bowling. So lucky to be getting free ride because we are short of pacers.
 
The Sun has finally risen from the West, Amir has taken a wicket.
 
Mohd Aamir though got a few wickets today his bowling still lacks the spark and he has forgotten the art of taking wickets. Junaid Khan bowled much better today.
 
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