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Is Naseem Shah ready to become the new leader of the Pakistan bowling attack in all formats?

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There is no doubt he has improve leaps and bounds in limited over cricket but now he could well lead our Test attack in the absence of Shaheen Shah Afridi (injury).

He has not performed as well as he would like to in Tests, but hopefully the responsibility will bring the best out of him.

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A leader doesn't pick up only 2 wickets in 7 T-20 games in a WC
 
There is no doubt he has improve leaps and bounds in limited over cricket but now he could well lead our Test attack in the absence of Shaheen Shah Afridi (injury).

He has not performed as well as he would like to in Tests, but hopefully the responsibility will bring the best out of him.

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Quite possible, only time will tell. He has the skill, brain and age behind him. I'm very optimistic about his future in cricket. Now he will be less injury prone , has grow up stronger now.
 
No he still needs 3 year of tough international cricket to become a complete fast bowler, one area where lacks completely is setting up batsman as evident by the Eng SF
 
A leader doesn't pick up only 2 wickets in 7 T-20 games in a WC

He has skills. But he pitches it shorter. So the movement looks exaggerated. For a skiddy bowler like him he should bowl much fuller. He overindulges in Dwayne bravo style back of the hand stuff. I understand he picked up tips from him. But Bravo was not an express bowler ever. He relied on variations. Trying to keep bowling like him will lessen his potency.
 
At the moment I would only play him in white ball cricket.

Keep him away from red ball cricket for a few years until his body is stronger and he has more experience.
 
He has skills. But he pitches it shorter. So the movement looks exaggerated. For a skiddy bowler like him he should bowl much fuller. He overindulges in Dwayne bravo style back of the hand stuff. I understand he picked up tips from him. But Bravo was not an express bowler ever. He relied on variations. Trying to keep bowling like him will lessen his potency.

This is not just a Naseem problem. Almost all our bowler bowl slower deliveries at the wrong time. Rauf got tonked for 2 sixes of two unnecessary slower deliveries by Kohli on a fast, pacy, bouncy MCG pitch and then in the final after troubling stokes with his pace for the entire over, he decides to bowl an unnecessary slower delivery outside the offstump which Stokes dispatched for 4 relieving all the pressure.

These slower deliveries are mostly effective on sub-continent wickets and should only be used if the batsman is on a roll where you fast paced deliveries are not working.
 
This is not just a Naseem problem. Almost all our bowler bowl slower deliveries at the wrong time. Rauf got tonked for 2 sixes of two unnecessary slower deliveries by Kohli on a fast, pacy, bouncy MCG pitch and then in the final after troubling stokes with his pace for the entire over, he decides to bowl an unnecessary slower delivery outside the offstump which Stokes dispatched for 4 relieving all the pressure.

These slower deliveries are mostly effective on sub-continent wickets and should only be used if the batsman is on a roll where you fast paced deliveries are not working.

On pace deliveries were short too. Hasan Ali is probably a good example he can follow in terms of length. He is shorter too.

 
Not at the moment but he has come on loads. Can he sustain bowling at 86mph+ in a test for 20 overs in a day rather than the 83mph we saw in NZ? If he can, he would tick one box, then he get good batters out with traditional ways?
 
Shaheen is the leading of the attack but whilst he's out of the test series I expect now Naseem to lead the bowling line up.
 
This is not just a Naseem problem. Almost all our bowler bowl slower deliveries at the wrong time. Rauf got tonked for 2 sixes of two unnecessary slower deliveries by Kohli on a fast, pacy, bouncy MCG pitch and then in the final after troubling stokes with his pace for the entire over, he decides to bowl an unnecessary slower delivery outside the offstump which Stokes dispatched for 4 relieving all the pressure.

These slower deliveries are mostly effective on sub-continent wickets and should only be used if the batsman is on a roll where you fast paced deliveries are not working.

Cost us 3 trophies slower balls and our openers.
 
SSA is the leader. In his absence, it is Rauf

Naseem Shah is an average bowler who can have some good days. He is definitely better than Wasim Jr.
 
His ceiling is the highest. The most complete bowler in Pakistan.
Only one who gets it to go both ways. Reverse swings it. Great at the death in white ball cricket.
As long as he remains injury free and gets stronger, he will see a huge upwards graph, fingers crossed.
 
Naseem is an exciting prospect. He can swing the ball both ways at pace. He was mostly 140-148ks in the world cup.
He is the fastest bowler in Asia in test cricket (average speed).
He is gonna serve Pakistan for long time.
 
He's very quick, but still don't see him producing that many wicket taking deliveries. If he can swing the ball both ways, as is being claimed here, then he should be taking bucketloads at his pace. Maybe he's not pitching them in quite the right areas, or is still a bit raw.
 
He's very quick, but still don't see him producing that many wicket taking deliveries. If he can swing the ball both ways, as is being claimed here, then he should be taking bucketloads at his pace. Maybe he's not pitching them in quite the right areas, or is still a bit raw.
He has been unlucky. Buttler and Stokes got schooled by him in that final, it was proper Test match bowling and they couldn’t do much about it.

Took a five wicket haul against Australia in the last Test series we played, so it’s not as if he is completely devoid of wickets.
 
He has been unlucky. Buttler and Stokes got schooled by him in that final, it was proper Test match bowling and they couldn’t do much about it.

Took a five wicket haul against Australia in the last Test series we played, so it’s not as if he is completely devoid of wickets.

He has lots of raw ability, but to be fair I haven't watched much cricket lately so not really in a position to say if he has honed to the point of match winning performances. In the T20 WC he was bowling generally economical spells, but I think he needed to take a few more wickets to get everyone really excited. Let's see how he does in the upcoming series against England, although of course these won't be pace friendly conditions.
 
He has lots of raw ability, but to be fair I haven't watched much cricket lately so not really in a position to say if he has honed to the point of match winning performances. In the T20 WC he was bowling generally economical spells, but I think he needed to take a few more wickets to get everyone really excited. Let's see how he does in the upcoming series against England, although of course these won't be pace friendly conditions.
Correction - he had a four wicket haul only, but averaged alright with second highest wickets to Shaheen’s tally. Also did alright in Sri Lanka later on.

Has ability, but very inexperienced so doesn’t really have the art of setting up Test class batsmen. None of these boys have played a sustained level of FC cricket, so we will have to be patient with them or go to the likes of Waqas Maqsood or Mir Hamza as backups.
 
I actually don’t think we have much choice. With SSA injured and abbas role cut back, hasan Ali out of form, Harris the right handed wahab scattergun I think we are really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

What I like about him is he can move it both ways and is quite accurate and quick. But can he sustain this over 15-20 overs im not sure. More to the point though he needs a decent partner who doesn’t release the pressure and I’m not sure if there is one one yet. SSA would have been ideal.
 
A 5-fer for Naseem in the 1st ODI vs NZ, a fantastic performance.
 
If we want to win WC’s, we have to keep our best white ball players away from tests. Hopefully Naseem retires from tests to prolong his career and win us major loi tournaments.
 
7 Star General: Shaheen

Lt. General: Naseem

First Lt.: Haris and in near future iA Hasnain (though he has potential to be at the same level as Naseem, just needs to relax more. It’s all a mental game for him)
 
If we want to win WC’s, we have to keep our best white ball players away from tests. Hopefully Naseem retires from tests to prolong his career and win us major loi tournaments.

All great odi bowlers maybe barring Malinga were test greats. In odi world cups at the businesses end you need test quality skills to win you the championships
 
All great odi bowlers maybe barring Malinga were test greats. In odi world cups at the businesses end you need test quality skills to win you the championships

Bret lee and Starc too.
 
All great odi bowlers maybe barring Malinga were test greats. In odi world cups at the businesses end you need test quality skills to win you the championships

All great ODI bowlers had the luxury of bowling with one ball and not two.

They also had bigger boundaries to defend.

They also had longer rest periods. Nowadays players like Naseem are playing non stop.

T20’s, Tests and ODI’s then franchise leagues.

Wasim and Waqar would’ve both retired around 1996-7 had there been T20 cricket back in those days. That’s 6-7 years of their career shortened had they played 3 formats instead of 2.
 
I have watched an interview of Naseem, alongside Abrar following the 2nd Karachi Test v NZ.

Not only is he skilled, but he seems to have the confidence and communication of what is expected from a professional cricketer.

Sarfraz has groomed this bowler well in Quetta Gladiators.
 
Naseem Shah at this year's Caribbean Premier League:

Overs 34.1
Runs conceded 284
Wickets 11
Average 25.81
Economy rate 8.31
 
Naseem Shah at this year's Caribbean Premier League:

Overs 34.1
Runs conceded 284
Wickets 11
Average 25.81
Economy rate 8.31
He needs the hard yards in FC cricket but due to fear of injury he wont do it. So he rather take the easy money and see out his career. If PK recalls him, it will be more because of the other guys being even worse
 
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