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Is Pakistan's 'bench strength' that bad?

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From what I am seeing in our batsmen, does fill me with no hope!

If we are banking on this bench strength to fall back on when first choice players fail then, I am afraid we are in for a big shock.

I understand that bench strength is not the same as frontline but given the quality of shots on display during this series against Australia, am afraid signs are not good.
 
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It's about making sure that there are no freeloaders in the team. That's what I think. It's a ploy to weed out the losers of the cry baby lot, who would cry foul when not given the chance based upon their PSL performance. That's my humble opinion.

Normally freeloaders would be selected but team would win based on our superstars performance, so they won't be tested rigorously enough as they should otherwise. This is Arthur and team management doing their best that this doesn't happen. And only deserving play in final 11
 
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To be honest we scored 280 in the first ODI which already surpassed my expectation.

Shan was looking good today. Some of these guys have not played that many ODIs. We must remember though that the same Australian side beat India in India recently.

I wish we had selected Ahmed Shehzad and Umer Khan for the Aus ODIs though.
 
I honestly think when it comes to batting our bench is more or less the same quality as our main go to batsmen.
 
We are lacking in big hitters for sure. The top order chop and change makes little difference.
 
The bench strength is what is suppose to replace the current set of players when we need it. On current form, lets hope it doesnt happen
 
From what I am seeing in our batsmen, does fill me with no hope!

If we are banking on this bench strength to fall back on when first choice players fail then, I am afraid we are in for a big shock.

I understand that bench strength is not the same as frontline but given the quality of shots on display during this series against Australia, am afraid signs are not good.

We are not able to buy any wickets and you think the batsmen are the weaker link??
 
Actually NO - overall, the 22 (I take double players) are not that good, which makes the bench irrelevant.

Let me explain with India - take their best XII right now : Dhawan, Sharma, VK, ATR, MSD+, Kedar, Hardik/Shankar, Jadeja, Kuldeep, Shami, Bumrah

There is absolutely no one remotely close to at least 4 players - Sharma, Kohli, Kuldeep & Bumrah. Arguably, we can add Shami, Dhawan as well in that list - that's minimum 4, could be even 6. So, they have a BIG problem at bench strength - replace these 6 players with any one, may be, only 1 player can serve the purpose adequately - Pant. However, ideally, Pant shouldn't be in reserves. May be, Chahal can serve somewhat for Kuldeep and BK might replace Shami for his combined skills; but still there is a massive hollow between first choice and back-up.

For PAK, if I take same (won't say best, which is another problem - PAK doesn't know their best XI), this is probably the XII: Imam, Fakhar, Babar, Hafeez, Malik, Sarfraz, Imad, Shadab/Fahim, Amir, Hasan, Shaheen.

Only 1 player (Babar) is genuine irreplaceable in that starting XII, and some of the players actually don't deserve their spot in starting XI.

Therefore, for Indian team, if just 4 players are withdrawn/replaced, that team will almost collapse; but that's not the case for PAK - apart from Babar, every player can be replaced and overall team strength won't go down much. I do believe that, PAK playing their first choice XI, still AUS would have won both games, may be a little more tighter.

Despite being team game, still cricket is an individualistic sports, where person dominates the game and PAK doesn't have anyone to dominate the game single-handed like the 4 Indian players. This can be bad, but can be good as well depending on over all squad strength. For example, that German soccer team between 1980-1992, made 3 WC & 2 EURO Finals, because of their outstanding squad depth, but there wasn't any superstar who couldn't be replaced, like Maradona, Platini, Zico, Baggio or Enzo Fransiscoli.

At one point, Mo. Akram, Aquib, Amer Malik, Shoaib, Mo. Zahid, Shahed Nazir had to be benched when PAK opted for 2 spinners and Mahmood/ARazzak picked as all-rounder, at same time IND had Kuruvilla, Doda Ganesh, David Johnson, Mohanti or Paresh Mahambre opening the bowling, and they sometimes did perform well also - that's called bench strength or lack of it. Now, the role is almost reversed - it doesn't matter much which XI is picked for PAK, and I am not sure if think tank knows the best XI either.
 
Our main batters barring fakhar (who is very inconsistent) are accumulators just like the ones playing in this series, so question of weak bench strength does not arise.
 
We were lacking wicket taking bowlers and a captain who could keep all the players on their toes.
 
From what I am seeing in our batsmen, does fill me with no hope!

If we are banking on this bench strength to fall back on when first choice players fail then, I am afraid we are in for a big shock.

I understand that bench strength is not the same as frontline but given the quality of shots on display during this series against Australia, am afraid signs are not good.

first 11 is as poor as the bench strength.
Unfortunately we dont have a single modern day world class batsman
 
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Lets hope that hafeez gets well before the world cup , fakhar and hafeez have to fire to get us far in the world cup.

Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz
Hafeez
Imad
Faheem
Hasan
Amir
Shaheen

Shadab
Junaid
Malik
Shinwari
 
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