Is Sarfaraz Ahmed capable of Test captaincy?

[Pakhs]

so you're saying sarfraz improved over those 8 years?

When he came in he had a golden run where he was averaging over 50 in test matches which cemented his spot and made him captain when Misbah retired. Now he is not performing as well but still doing better than any other keep in site would do. He is nearing an end but we dont have a keeper ready which has always been a problem for Pakistan. Until know they couldnt replace Younis.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Long back I said he is not the right choice for test captaincy and Azhar Ali is the most deserving option at that time.. Azhar named odi captain = Sarfraz named test captain. Azhar’s captaincy was judged in a format where he has no experience as an int’l player even of that format.

 

[Chokli]

When he came in he had a golden run where he was averaging over 50 in test matches which cemented his spot and made him captain when Misbah retired. Now he is not performing as well but still doing better than any other keep in site would do. He is nearing an end but we dont have a keeper ready which has always been a problem for Pakistan. Until know they couldnt replace Younis.

he had two good years where he had a purple patch, ever since then he's been mediocre.

 

[Pakhs]

he had two good years where he had a purple patch, ever since then he's been mediocre.

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35 is acceptable as a keeper. Pakistan need to not rest on him, After the WC its a new cycle and they need to groom a new keeper and that keeper cant be Rizwan who will be worst not better.

 

[Chokli]

that keeper cant be Rizwan who will be worst not better.

there is no way you can pass that off as a fact.

35 is barely acceptable not 24

 

[Pakhs]

there is no way you can pass that off as a fact.

35 is barely acceptable not 24

What you mean? I dont want a worst keeper than Sarfraz. If you think Rizwan can be better than Sarfraz and its more like de kock who averages 5 more than sarfraz then you cant be helped.

 

[Chokli]

What you mean? I dont want a worst keeper than Sarfraz. If you think Rizwan can be better than Sarfraz and its more like de kock who averages 5 more than sarfraz then you cant be helped.

sarfraz is worse than rizwan can ever be right now

 

[MRSN]

Long back I said he is not the right choice for test captaincy and Azhar Ali is the most deserving option at that time.. Azhar named odi captain = Sarfraz named test captain. Azhar’s captaincy was judged in a format where he has no experience as an int’l player even of that format.

IMO Hafeez should have been the right candidate for captaincy after spot fixing scandal especially in limited overs format. He may not be a great player but he surely has been one player who has given Pakistan many wins in the limited overs format. Sometimes it really annoys me how clowns running Pakistan cricket can't get this simple thing. Captaincy require a lot of professionalism and great thinking. Hafeez was really a good T20 captain for short period of time I have seen him. He was wrongly ousted in favor of Afridi because there was a mafia in media who wanted one of their players as captain to get most out of iniside news. Sarfraz has great influence of the same mafia which is why I despise him.

 

[Pakhs]

sarfraz is worse than rizwan can ever be right now

you dont play people for right now! so to be clear you want to drop your all format captain knowing the replacement may not even average 35 in the long run? Sarfraz stays until we find a better keeper batsman.

 

[Pakhs]

IMO Hafeez should have been the right candidate for captaincy after spot fixing scandal especially in limited overs format. He may not be a great player but he surely has been one player who has given Pakistan many wins in the limited overs format. Sometimes it really annoys me how clowns running Pakistan cricket can't get this simple thing. Captaincy require a lot of professionalism and great thinking. Hafeez was really a good T20 captain for short period of time I have seen him. He was wrongly ousted in favor of Afridi because there was a mafia in media who wanted one of their players as captain to get most out of iniside news. Sarfraz has great influence of the same mafia which is why I despise him.

Hafeezz kept getting banned for his bowling.

 

[MRSN]

What you mean? I dont want a worst keeper than Sarfraz. If you think Rizwan can be better than Sarfraz and its more like de kock who averages 5 more than sarfraz then you cant be helped.

Rizwan is an outstanding keeper and by the looks of his batting form off late he has made improvements. He should be tried. It's better than a dud with the bat Sarfraz. Last night he got out to a straight ball of Tahir even though spin used to be his main bashing asset. He has regressed really badly and sad thing is he won't ever admit that. Just look at his denial about his poor hanging belly.

 

[Pakhs]

Rizwan is an outstanding keeper and by the looks of his batting form off late he has made improvements. He should be tried. It's better than a dud with the bat Sarfraz. Last night he got out to a straight ball of Tahir even though spin used to be his main bashing asset. He has regressed really badly and sad thing is he won't ever admit that. Just look at his denial about his poor hanging belly.

His keeping and general fitness is good. His dismissal last night was shocking and even he himself was embarrassed but he is still better than rizwan. By all means replace him when we find someone better.

 

[Chokli]

you dont play people for right now! so to be clear you want to drop your all format captain knowing the replacement may not even average 35 in the long run? Sarfraz stays until we find a better keeper batsman.

and you don't play people right now based on the past!

sarfraz averages less than 35 in the past 3 years, i'm pretty sure rizwan can't do any worse than sarfraz.

we have a better keeper batsman, his name is rizwan

 

[MRSN]

His keeping and general fitness is good. His dismissal last night was shocking and even he himself was embarrassed but he is still better than rizwan. By all means replace him when we find someone better.

General fitness is good really..how many times he has been running out himself or his partners due to his poor fitness? I have seen countless times in thr last year alone.

 

[Titan24]

you dont play people for right now! so to be clear you want to drop your all format captain knowing the replacement may not even average 35 in the long run? Sarfraz stays until we find a better keeper batsman.

If Rizwan is so bad a batsman, how come he was playing for Pakistan purely as a batsman?

You should check is domestic stats and recent A team form.

 

[Pakhs]

If Rizwan is so bad a batsman, how come he was playing for Pakistan purely as a batsman?

You should check is domestic stats and recent A team form.

I have checked his domestic stats and average of 41 in domestic will not mean even 35 average in test cricket.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

IMO Hafeez should have been the right candidate for captaincy after spot fixing scandal especially in limited overs format. He may not be a great player but he surely has been one player who has given Pakistan many wins in the limited overs format. Sometimes it really annoys me how clowns running Pakistan cricket can't get this simple thing. Captaincy require a lot of professionalism and great thinking. Hafeez was really a good T20 captain for short period of time I have seen him. He was wrongly ousted in favor of Afridi because there was a mafia in media who wanted one of their players as captain to get most out of iniside news. Sarfraz has great influence of the same mafia which is why I despise him.

watmore asked for Hafeez to be the ODI captain and Malik as t20 captain

 

[Chokli]

sack him immediately.

 

[Chokli]

I have checked his domestic stats and average of 41 in domestic will not mean even 35 average in test cricket.

yes, it will mean more than 35.

get over like sarfraz is some sort of saviour, he's a pathetic player

 

[waleed88]

General fitness is good really..how many times he has been running out himself or his partners due to his poor fitness? I have seen countless times in thr last year alone.

Run outs have more to do with judgement than with fitness. Azhar Ali is one of the fittest players in the side and always seemingly getting run out with stupid decisions... and that too in test matches!

 

[Pakhs]

yes, it will mean more than 35.

get over like sarfraz is some sort of saviour, he's a pathetic player

Lol nobody is saying sarfraz is a saviour of any sort but he gets runs every now and then. But averaging 41 on weak domestic cricket will not translate to 35 average in test cricket which Sarfraz have. He would average about half.

 

[Chokli]

Lol nobody is saying sarfraz is a saviour of any sort but he gets runs every now and then. But averaging 41 on weak domestic cricket will not translate to 35 average in test cricket which Sarfraz have. He would average about half.

you can't pass that off as a fact when sarfraz isn't even averaging 35

 

[Abdullah719]

Lol nobody is saying sarfraz is a saviour of any sort but he gets runs every now and then. But averaging 41 on weak domestic cricket will not translate to 35 average in test cricket which Sarfraz have. He would average about half.

Rizwan and Sarfaraz have very similar FC stats.

 

[letme alone]

yes.nobody near him in this team.

 

[Pakhs]

you can't pass that off as a fact when sarfraz isn't even averaging 35

Rizwan and Sarfaraz have very similar FC stats.

Yes except Rizwan has played a lot of matches to confirm that average is a fair reflection of his capability in first class cricket. Which will roughly translate to half of that in test cricket.

 

[MMHS]

Yes except Rizwan has played a lot of matches to confirm that average is a fair reflection of his capability in first class cricket. Which will roughly translate to half of that in test cricket.

Rizwan has played 76 FC games excluding Test; Sarfraz has played 100 FC games excluding Test. Rizwan has played 1 Test, Sarfraz 49....................

Still can't get how Rizwan's average should be translated into half of his FC average, while Sarfraz is just about 4-5 runs below, and at one point had higher Test average than FC average.

 

[Pakhs]

Rizwan has played 76 FC games excluding Test; Sarfraz has played 100 FC games excluding Test. Rizwan has played 1 Test, Sarfraz 49....................

Still can't get how Rizwan's average should be translated into half of his FC average, while Sarfraz is just about 4-5 runs below, and at one point had higher Test average than FC average.

Sarfraz played a lot of his FC matches when he was a lot younger than Rizwan and the reason why he was able to average more in Tests as he matured, Rizwan is in his peak years playing FC matches I would expect his average to soar over 50 if he was truly better than Sarfraz which he is most certainly not.

 

[Chokli]

Sarfraz played a lot of his FC matches when he was a lot younger than Rizwan and the reason why he was able to average more in Tests as he matured, Rizwan is in his peak years playing FC matches I would expect his average to soar over 50 if he was truly better than Sarfraz which he is most certainly not.

sarfraz had a purple patch in 2014/2015..

he has been mediocre ever since, rizwan did well against the A sides for Pakistan A.

 

[MMHS]

Sarfraz played a lot of his FC matches when he was a lot younger than Rizwan and the reason why he was able to average more in Tests as he matured, Rizwan is in his peak years playing FC matches I would expect his average to soar over 50 if he was truly better than Sarfraz which he is most certainly not.

Not true - Rizwan is officially 5 years younger than Sarfraz, and he had debuted in FC in Dec 2008 at 16 years of age, Sarfraz debuted in April 2006 at 19 years of age. All the logic you are using actually suggests Rizwan should have better Test stats than Sarfraz, if he is given similar opportunities - he might or might not, that's separate issue, but your argument is flawed. Here is their year by year FC stats

Sarfraz
http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Players/69/69226/f_Batting_by_Season.html

Rizwan
http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Players/192/192792/f_Batting_by_Season.html

 

[Muhammad10]

Yes except Rizwan has played a lot of matches to confirm that average is a fair reflection of his capability in first class cricket. Which will roughly translate to half of that in test cricket.

I believe he has a higher first class average than our veteran Test batsmen Azhar and Asad... how come they're not averaging below 20 in Tests? #LogicIsOverrated

 

[Pakhs]

Not true - Rizwan is officially 5 years younger than Sarfraz, and he had debuted in FC in Dec 2008 at 16 years of age, Sarfraz debuted in April 2006 at 19 years of age. All the logic you are using actually suggests Rizwan should have better Test stats than Sarfraz, if he is given similar opportunities - he might or might not, that's separate issue, but your argument is flawed. Here is their year by year FC stats

Sarfraz
http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Players/69/69226/f_Batting_by_Season.html

Rizwan
http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Players/192/192792/f_Batting_by_Season.html

Even you stats suggest Sarfraz has a more impressiveness record. The last time Rizwan played 10 matches in a year he averaged less than 35.

 

[Pakhs]

I believe he has a higher first class average than our veteran Test batsmen Azhar and Asad... how come they're not averaging below 20 in Tests? #LogicIsOverrated

Last time Rizwan played 10 matches he averaged 35 with 109* out of his 500 something total runs propping up his average simply not good enough.

 

[Muhammad10]

Last time Rizwan played 10 matches he averaged 35 with 109* out of his 500 something total runs propping up his average simply not good enough.

That was a long time ago. He's been in excellent form for a while now, whereas Sarfraz had a poor 2018 and is a burden on the team. Replacing him with Rizwan is a no-brainer, and I don't mean for one or two matches, but he should be given a fair run in the side.

 

[MMHS]

Even you stats suggest Sarfraz has a more impressiveness record. The last time Rizwan played 10 matches in a year he averaged less than 35.

Last time Sarfraz played 10 games in a year, he averaged even lower . It's not conclusive, any way you put the data. Rather, it's probably easier to prove that those 3 years were his purple patch - his first few Tests had single digit average, now it has come down to almost that level.

If you put his Test (ODI as well, but I haven't checked) stats in a linear plot (run and ball/SR), it'll show like an age band curve - narrow at start & end, wide in middle; which suggests guy has passed his expiry. This happens to every cricketer, but the greater batsman you are, that wider part extends to both ends and the narrow parts reduces (for Bradman, it was almost flat like a barrel) .... for Sarfraz, it's like an exercise dumble

 

[Pakhs]

That was a long time ago. He's been in excellent form for a while now, whereas Sarfraz had a poor 2018 and is a burden on the team. Replacing him with Rizwan is a no-brainer, and I don't mean for one or two matches, but he should be given a fair run in the side.

You dont replace a captain of any team by a mediocre players. The only time we can replace Sarfraz is when we have GUN player to replace him.

 

[Pakhs]

Last time Sarfraz played 10 games in a year, he averaged even lower . It's not conclusive, any way you put the data. Rather, it's probably easier to prove that those 3 years were his purple patch - his first few Tests had single digit average, now it has come down to almost that level.

If you put his Test (ODI as well, but I haven't checked) stats in a linear plot (run and ball/SR), it'll show like an age band curve - narrow at start & end, wide in middle; which suggests guy has passed his expiry. This happens to every cricketer, but the greater batsman you are, that wider part extends to both ends and the narrow parts reduces (for Bradman, it was almost flat like a barrel) .... for Sarfraz, it's like an exercise dumble

You dont replace a captain of any team by a mediocre players. The only time we can replace Sarfraz is when we have GUN player to replace him.

 

[aukhan]

You dont replace a captain of any team by a mediocre players. The only time we can replace Sarfraz is when we have GUN player to replace him.

You can replace mediocre player captaining the team by an average player and hand over the captaincy to a GUN player.

 

[Pakhs]

You can replace mediocre player captaining the team by an average player and hand over the captaincy to a GUN player.

If you dont have a de-cock type player you dont need to replace sarfraz.

 

[aukhan]

If you dont have a de-cock type player you dont need to replace sarfraz.

We won't know if we have any better option until we try new players. As far as captaincy is concerned he needs to be removed immediately. He is atrocious as Test captain.

 

[Pakhs]

I am fairly confident we dont have a de-cock in Pakistan domestic set-up at the moment. I suspect Kamran Akmal is a better batsman than Rizwan.

 

[Pakhs]

We won't know if we have any better option until we try new players. As far as captaincy is concerned he needs to be removed immediately. He is atrocious as Test captain.

I am fairly confident we dont have a de-cock in Pakistan domestic set-up at the moment. I suspect Kamran Akmal is a better batsman than Rizwan.

 

[Muhammad10]

If you dont have a de-cock type player you dont need to replace sarfraz.

No. Any underperforming player in the team should be replaced by whichever player is most deserving of a call-up, and that is to be determined by assessing one's performances in domestic cricket, A team matches, etc., not whether one is or is not "a De Kock type player".

 

[Muhammad10]

Amazing logic by [MENTION=142176]Pakhs[/MENTION]. Imagine, it's like saying we should only replace Azhar and Asad if we have Pujara and Kohli level players available. )

 

[Pakhs]

Amazing logic by [MENTION=142176]Pakhs[/MENTION]. Imagine, it's like saying we should only replace Azhar and Asad if we have Pujara and Kohli level players available. )

I dont think you are understanding it at all. Point is to do better than Sarfraz who averages 36 in Test match cricket you really have to be at de-cock level who average I think 38-40? Do you get it now? Now dont tell me you think Rizwan is at de-cock level.

 

[Muhammad10]

I dont think you are understanding it at all. Point is to do better than Sarfraz who averages 36 in Test match cricket you really have to be at de-cock level who average I think 38-40? Do you get it now? Now dont tell me you think Rizwan is at de-cock level.

Yes, he had an excellent 2014-2015 in Test cricket. However, since 2016, he only averages 30.24, which is a pretty large sample size (3 years!) to prove he's been below par for a long time. Moreover, he only averaged 24.07 in 2018, and we really can't afford to keep a passenger in our side forever, purely on the basis of his purple patch several years ago. His captaincy has also not been upto the mark in Tests.

 

[Pakhs]

Yes, he had an excellent 2014-2015 in Test cricket. However, since 2016, he only averages 30.24, which is a pretty large sample size (3 years!) to prove he's been below par for a long time. Moreover, he only averaged 24.07 in 2018, and we really can't afford to keep a passenger in our side forever, purely on the basis of his purple patch several years ago. His captaincy has also not been upto the mark in Tests.

I dont think we have a another choice as a captain until babar is ready but he must start batting at number 4 in test match cricket. Last year was a really bad year for Sarfraz but you cant kick him out because of one year and destabilize the whole team. Pakistan also needs to find a better keeper than Rizwan as and when sarfraz time is up which is not in too long distance.

 

[Muhammad10]

I dont think we have a another choice as a captain until babar is ready but he must start batting at number 4 in test match cricket. Last year was a really bad year for Sarfraz but you cant kick him out because of one year and destabilize the whole team. Pakistan also needs to find a better keeper than Rizwan as and when sarfraz time is up which is not in too long distance.

You have to work with what you have. You can't stick with an underperforming player simply because the alternatives you have currently aren't world class.

 

[Pakhs]

You have to work with what you have. You can't stick with an underperforming player simply because the alternatives you have currently aren't world class.

No I am against giving mediocre it. You only change teams if you are sure the player coming in will improve the team which cant be said in this instance. It will destabilize the team for no reason.

 

[Chokli]

Last year was a really bad year for Sarfraz but you cant kick him out because of one year and destabilize the whole team.

he's been bad for 3 years and he's already destabilized the team. sarfraz is horrible

 

[Muhammad10]

No I am against giving mediocre it. You only change teams if you are sure the player coming in will improve the team which cant be said in this instance. It will destabilize the team for no reason.

Rizwan averages close to 42 in FC cricket (really impressive for a keeper), while he has not been tried in Test cricket (only played one Test). There is no justification for persisting with Sarfraz, who has been poor for quite a while now. Rizwan should be given a few series to settle into the team and show whether or not he's an upgrade on Sarfraz, and his performance should be assessed fairly after that. At the moment, all you appear to be in favour of is persisting with mediocrity.

 

[Pakhs]

he's been bad for 3 years and he's already destabilized the team. sarfraz is horrible

Rizwan averages close to 42 in FC cricket (really impressive for a keeper), while he has not been tried in Test cricket (only played one Test). There is no justification for persisting with Sarfraz, who has been poor for quite a while now. Rizwan should be given a few series to settle into the team and show whether or not he's an upgrade on Sarfraz, and his performance should be assessed fairly after that. At the moment, all you appear to be in favour of is persisting with mediocrity.

Average of 41 is not that impressive in FC cricket with a lot of Not-Outs batting in the lower order below 5. I just dont think he will be an upgrade on Sarfraz and thats why I am against destabilizing a team. No way before the WC.

 

[Chokli]

Average of 41 is not that impressive in FC cricket with a lot of Not-Outs batting in the lower order below 5. I just dont think he will be an upgrade on Sarfraz and thats why I am against destabilizing a team. No way before the WC.

but anyone is better than sarfraz at this point

 

[Muhammad10]

Average of 41 is not that impressive in FC cricket with a lot of Not-Outs batting in the lower order below 5. I just dont think he will be an upgrade on Sarfraz and thats why I am against destabilizing a team. No way before the WC.

You were talking about Tests, and his average indicates that he has the potential to outperform Sarfraz in Tests, who has been averaging around 25 since the start of 2018, I believe.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

IMO Hafeez should have been the right candidate for captaincy after spot fixing scandal especially in limited overs format. He may not be a great player but he surely has been one player who has given Pakistan many wins in the limited overs format. Sometimes it really annoys me how clowns running Pakistan cricket can't get this simple thing. Captaincy require a lot of professionalism and great thinking. Hafeez was really a good T20 captain for short period of time I have seen him. He was wrongly ousted in favor of Afridi because there was a mafia in media who wanted one of their players as captain to get most out of iniside news. Sarfraz has great influence of the same mafia which is why I despise him.

Hafeez got a run only after the spot fixing scandal that took Salman butt off the team..Im not sure how can he be the right candidate back then...

After the 2015 CWC yes Hafeez would have been the right choice but from nowhere they picked Azhar who has little to no experience in the LOI... To perform as an opener to keep your spot and captain at the same time is huge task for anyone and he did well as an opener but failed miserably as captain which is expected as he has no experience in that format... Hafeez can be a good captain for ODIs where it suits for him to make steady changes which didnt work that well for him in t20s but still he did much better than what afridi could even dream of.

 

[MMHS]

You dont replace a captain of any team by a mediocre players. The only time we can replace Sarfraz is when we have GUN player to replace him.

I think, the stats were about Test/FC cricket. If you consider ODI, particularly WC in 5 months time - Sarfraz doesn't even deserve to be in squad. Ideally Rizwan should keep and Umar should be in squad as middle order and emergency back-up WK. Rizwan's List A stats are 50/89 for around 4K runs, and if I take out his ODIs, this will go to 55/89 level. And, he has been ever present in PAK A/Emerging teams, means lots of his List A scores are made against better attack/fielding than average PAK domestic games.

This thread is about Sarfraz's Captaincy - I don't think anyone needs to be explained why he shouldn't be. Even his hardcore Bhakhts have avoided this thread and that's before his latest stupidity, followed by a tweet which has unveiled even whatever it was covered.

It's a self made problem for PCT - Sarfraz is there as Captain first for last 15 months at least; but he can't he sacked because of WC. Since he can't be sacked, he has to be carried in playing XI as well and to keep him (& PCB's team management) comfortable, no deputy is assigned, no back-up WK is picked in squad. Otherwise, if he was that settled as Captain & confirmed as a player, by now PCB could have easily rested him in the 3rd T20 against AUS/NZ, against ZIM reserves, against NZ in last 2 games, against HK in Asia Cup ...... India is resting Kohli almost half of the ODI/T20s, but Sarfraz has played every game since appointment because of that insecurity - if Rizwan or Kamran performs better, it'll be impossible to back Sarfraz (which I am sure now is a politically motivated backing by PCB), so don't even allow anyone to intrude.

 

[Pakhs]

You were talking about Tests, and his average indicates that he has the potential to outperform Sarfraz in Tests, who has been averaging around 25 since the start of 2018, I believe.

I think, the stats were about Test/FC cricket. If you consider ODI, particularly WC in 5 months time - Sarfraz doesn't even deserve to be in squad. Ideally Rizwan should keep and Umar should be in squad as middle order and emergency back-up WK. Rizwan's List A stats are 50/89 for around 4K runs, and if I take out his ODIs, this will go to 55/89 level. And, he has been ever present in PAK A/Emerging teams, means lots of his List A scores are made against better attack/fielding than average PAK domestic games.

This thread is about Sarfraz's Captaincy - I don't think anyone needs to be explained why he shouldn't be. Even his hardcore Bhakhts have avoided this thread and that's before his latest stupidity, followed by a tweet which has unveiled even whatever it was covered.

It's a self made problem for PCT - Sarfraz is there as Captain first for last 15 months at least; but he can't he sacked because of WC. Since he can't be sacked, he has to be carried in playing XI as well and to keep him (& PCB's team management) comfortable, no deputy is assigned, no back-up WK is picked in squad. Otherwise, if he was that settled as Captain & confirmed as a player, by now PCB could have easily rested him in the 3rd T20 against AUS/NZ, against ZIM reserves, against NZ in last 2 games, against HK in Asia Cup ...... India is resting Kohli almost half of the ODI/T20s, but Sarfraz has played every game since appointment because of that insecurity - if Rizwan or Kamran performs better, it'll be impossible to back Sarfraz (which I am sure now is a politically motivated backing by PCB), so don't even allow anyone to intrude.

He was made captain across formats with a view to leading Pakistan to coming WC. I see no reason why that should change now this close to a World Cup.

 

[Muhammad10]

He was made captain across formats with a view to leading Pakistan to coming WC. I see no reason why that should change now this close to a World Cup.

What does the Test captaincy have to do with the World Cup? It seems like a deflection after you were unable to make a credible case for persisting with him, ahead of Rizwan, in Test cricket.

 

[Chokli]

He was made captain across formats with a view to leading Pakistan to coming WC. I see no reason why that should change now this close to a World Cup.

because he is not a good enough player and is destabilizing the team

 

[Pakhs]

What does the Test captaincy have to do with the World Cup? It seems like a deflection after you were unable to make a credible case for persisting with him, ahead of Rizwan, in Test cricket.

because he is not a good enough player and is destabilizing the team

Any change in captaincy will destabilize the team. Dont forget Sarfraz is all format captain so any change that is need should be after the WC. Whats the point is changing test captain when we dont play anymore test cricket until after the WC now.

 

[Muhammad10]

Any change in captaincy will destabilize the team. Dont forget Sarfraz is all format captain so any change that is need should be after the WC. Whats the point is changing test captain when we dont play anymore test cricket until after the WC now.

Sure. Do it after the World Cup in that case.

 

[MMHS]

Any change in captaincy will destabilize the team. Dont forget Sarfraz is all format captain so any change that is need should be after the WC. Whats the point is changing test captain when we dont play anymore test cricket until after the WC now.

A little bit destabilization is good for PAK team actually. These set of players are too stable to the level of comfort and they hardly bothers for the cap they wear in a cricket field. PCB and it;s CS has given full proof assurance that what these set of players and their Captain needs to put some runs or bowl 1-2 good spells here & there, and CS has an alibi to carry them for next series. Including Sarfraz, how many honestly do you think deserve to be in WC representing PAK - who is better available is not an excuse. They say, don't fix unless it's broken - opposite is true as well, if it's not happening, you have to shake it, even if out come might be worse.

I can make it lot more harsh, but do you really watch PAK games - in last 1 years, out of the 12 games (I am talking about [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] 's 2-10 run that we all know), how many games PAK actually made a face saving fight? May be 1 in NZ after Series was 4-0, NONE in Asia Cup when both IND, BD we severally under strength, against depleted NZ side it was at one point 86-6 chasing close to 300, this SAF series with half of their squad resting? There is something beyond W/L - IND lost 4-1 in ENG, could have been 5-0 as well had Root opted to bat at T'bridge - is there any resemblance in Indian 0-5 & PAK's 0-5 (I know, it's Test & ODI)?

Using stability card, you are just telling that this below mediocre state is acceptable and nothing should be done, nothing required to be done.

 

[Pakhs]

Sure. Do it after the World Cup in that case.

A little bit destabilization is good for PAK team actually. These set of players are too stable to the level of comfort and they hardly bothers for the cap they wear in a cricket field. PCB and it;s CS has given full proof assurance that what these set of players and their Captain needs to put some runs or bowl 1-2 good spells here & there, and CS has an alibi to carry them for next series. Including Sarfraz, how many honestly do you think deserve to be in WC representing PAK - who is better available is not an excuse. They say, don't fix unless it's broken - opposite is true as well, if it's not happening, you have to shake it, even if out come might be worse.

I can make it lot more harsh, but do you really watch PAK games - in last 1 years, out of the 12 games (I am talking about [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] 's 2-10 run that we all know), how many games PAK actually made a face saving fight? May be 1 in NZ after Series was 4-0, NONE in Asia Cup when both IND, BD we severally under strength, against depleted NZ side it was at one point 86-6 chasing close to 300, this SAF series with half of their squad resting? There is something beyond W/L - IND lost 4-1 in ENG, could have been 5-0 as well had Root opted to bat at T'bridge - is there any resemblance in Indian 0-5 & PAK's 0-5 (I know, it's Test & ODI)?

Using stability card, you are just telling that this below mediocre state is acceptable and nothing should be done, nothing required to be done.

After the WC it will be a new cycle and its debatable if Sarfraz will last another 4 years so Captaincy should be given to Babar and also new keeper should be tried with a view to replacing Sarfraz when he is ready.

 

[MenInG]

Even Afridi told him to leave captaincy!


"When Sarfaraz was going to play in SA, I told him to announce retirement (from Tests) with respect. He said maybe he will but he didn't. I think he shouldn't have been captain in Tests after that series because it's very difficult to be captain in all 3 formats"

"Sarfaraz has worked hard and trained and he's looking fit now so it's a good decision that he is captain for the ODI and T20I series (against SL)"

 

[MenInG]

Misbah-ul-Haq in his presser today

"The board has thought a lot about Sarfaraz and there have been discussions about the matter. My support was with Sarfaraz before the World Cup and even now I think he can do a lot better which he has proved in the past. In recent times his performances have been up and down but they can be improved"

 

[HappyWarsFan]

Misbah-ul-Haq in his presser today

"The board has thought a lot about Sarfaraz and there have been discussions about the matter. My support was with Sarfaraz before the World Cup and even now I think he can do a lot better which he has proved in the past. In recent times his performances have been up and down but they can be improved"

Think he was talking about this series specifically and more for LOIs